Tee Hee hee!

Intelligent and cute….who knew?

Damn you Bee Lovely;)

He aight lookin. Not my cup o tea but he is intelligent and that is sexay

Maybe our kids need to grow up the way we did…not always in front of a TV!!! …lets get education back on top as a priority! …just sayin’

” These black women and black men get they asses on TV to look stupid in front of America….

Hence:

Flavor of Love
I love New York
The other show with Chance and his bitch ass brother
Housewives of Atlanta

It’s all good if Black people are acting like coons on TV. Gives them something to laugh at. Might as well paint ya faces like Sambo. Or turn to BET and continue watching the same boring line-up.

And even when they have black shows, its like they have to overly emphasize the part. Like Tracy Morgan. Making them look ignorant.
You dont see people on House, or The Office, or Lie to Me acting like coons.

i cant believe there is only ONE comment here!!!!
I will be the first, then to write to a president of a major network! Hosea is right on the mark hen he complains about representation. People need to mobilize, else they’ll be using tanned white girls and hispanics to fill in for us (o, not that they already arent)

29….

Nice Touché points…but on the low I want my own Reality show…me and my Bae was JUST speaking on it last night…

Finally, something actually worth writing about! Black artists/producers need to boycott the industry before they become extinct. They just did us wrong with girlfriends…absolutely wrong and now this!!!???

Damn! I see him so differently now.

This is so true. I think the Game and Tyler Perry are the only 2 Black shows on right now.

i do agree with alicia though

education needs to be top priority. but from time to time when our kids do turn on the tube, they need to see positive, modern, smart representations of themselves.

lmao at the chitlins comment… glad someone finally put it out there

@Nikki U:

It’s all good though…..based on your convo on here I’m sure your show would the THEE FIRST educational reality show. lol

Although we’d like our children to read books and study hard, there’s no escaping TV here in America if you’re going to school or live in a somewhat decent area. So it should matter what kind of content your children are watching, especially concerning the example African American’s in the media are setting.

Nevertheless…people try to reduce the amount of TV your kids (future kids) are watching. We grew up in a poor neighborhood with strict rules about school and TV, and I’m glad. I grew up with one hell of an imaginiation

He hit on a lot of valid points. We have allowed America to dictate who we are. I hate reality TV and all the Sambo-ass shit that comes with it. Flavor of Love, I Love New York and now this damn Ray-J show are absolute garbage. Nothing positive comes out of these shows. I heard someone say that those people have to eat too, then take your ass to college or get a respectable job. Showing your ass for money is ridiculous and wasteful. I was not born to a rich family, but I have worked hard and sacrificed to make something out of myself. It just makes me sick to my stomach that we as a people are so anxious to make a dollar that we dont realize that all money isnt good money.

Yeah, he is right no one fights for blacks on tv. I would through the hispanics on there but they have about 50 channels for free. I mean last year the Game was the top show while Gossip Girl was failing CW through all their money to GG and tossed the game Chris’s show to the back.

My questions is what’s wrong with single parents?

Other than that, what he says makes some sense.

The Game isn’t what it used to be when it first came on. Some of the storylines are ridiculous and boring. Derwin and Melanie were supposed to be very religious in the beginning of the show and now we see them sleeping around with no internal conflict. The storylines aren’t true to the character’s essence. The NAACP addressed the “blackout” on network television, but Hosea and some of the other actors can speak out regularly or become activist to effect change in Hollywood rather than waiting on Jesse or Al.

Man! I ♥ The Game! If we don’t support our own, no one will. We have to bring in the viewing numbers. CW set The Game up for failure by moving it to Friday night

I think they just hate to show us in a different light. That is why fools like Ray J, Flavor Flav, New York, and Real and Chance get shows. They feel no one wants to see educated blacks on t.v.

Co sign what homie was saying… and the ladies talking about education as a priority… I just hope you don’t mean letting the STATE educate your kids… when I have kids there is no way in hell I would ever send them to one of those Public Indoctrination Camps (government schools… they are not public…) so they can inject him with some mercury tainted vaccine… and teach him to obey the state above all else… do you know they have programs in these schools… where they tell you to go home and look in the medicine cabinet… spy on your parents and you can get a $200 reward… but who cares about that… the game is on…

I Love this show! It would be a sad ass shame if they eliminate it!

@Raquel29
you right we making ourselves look stupid, especially with that real and chance show. Dudes is f’n cowboys in the hood. and one is gay but yet he wanna get with a white woman. Wow come on now. f VH1

HEy there Nikki U , My lovable lady .. Hows it going?As far as this blacks on tv, hi is right and thats how whites play the game and i feel they need to bring on more shows like the Cosby’s instead of all that Rock of Love and Flavor of love crap!!!

It’s not really America’s fault. It’s the fault of modern day black men and women. The standard of entertainment is low for black people because of bullshit like BET and VH1. If black people would stop watching those show on those networks then entertainment for black people would be taken to a new level. There are only about 40 million black people in the U.S. America does not have to kiss the asses of black people to make money…which I think they know and which is the reason there is a lack of quality shows. Also, in order to provide quality entertainment for black people there has to be a certain level of education of the part of the watcher. Black people didn’t understand movies like Rosewood because of lack of education but they picked up on Menace II Society with the quickest…smh.

ok sexy!

LOVES IT

People we need to do something about this. We cant let this happen!! We need shows that relate to us.

I agree fully with what he is saying. You look on television and there is that I can think of 4 black shows, The Game, Everybody Hates Chris, House of Payne, and Meet the Browns. Other than those shows, that is it. I also agree with him saying there were a lot of great shows back in the day and people worked hard to produce all types of great shows. TGIF was what I rushed home to see every Friday night. Now, I go home and figure out what to watch on television. I personally like “The Game.” I think its a great show. I just wish it didnt move its time slot because I think they lost a lot of viewers that way.
When we talk about positive things being on television, what I miss the most are family television shows. Whatever happened to shows that uplifted blacks?? The Cosby Show made it to where black people could enjoy watching a successful black family on television. Now, there arent shows like that in which it can show a positive light on black families.
Whites are so quick to release their tv DVD’s, but where are the great black shows on DVD’s? Fresh Prince only has 4 seasons, Cosby Show was finally released as a box set, Family Matters doesnt have a DVD? Whats really going on?

I don’t really watch tv, I personally think it’s a big waste of time! all they have a whole bunch f detective shows. What he says does sound very true.

You know it is so said that no one is giving any credit to the creator of Greys Anatomy and Private Practice when she is black and at least 2 of the main characters are black in leading and intricate roles. Also, the cast is diverse instead of all of the cast being black with a couple token white or hispanic people. I think these shows are more of a reflection of the way live truly is, diverse. It is not all black and not all white. And if your life is a in all black or all white with a couple of tokens you need to get out more. I support the creator of these shows because she is black and is a good writer where i am left on edge all the time.

I feel they want them to fail, b/c they keep changing the slots. I keep my DVR on record for them.

sorry dude,we got bigger fish to fry in our community other than worrying about a bunch of well paid actors.

i for one am not a serious tube watcher. I only really watched two shows for the longest and that was my soap ‘Days of our Lives’ and ‘Girlfriends’….and trust me, I was ready to burn something down after they gave ‘Girlfriends’ the shaft! They didn’t even give them a final episode or anything (kind of like they did the Wayan’s Bros.)….now all i really watch is CNN b/c it seems to be more exciting than any of the other crap on tv. These dang reality shows are like gaper’s delay at an accident….it’s like it’s so f’d up that you can’t look away and so you just keep watching. I got sick of that ‘flavor of love’ crap and the ‘real chance at love’ was just fake all through and through. Now they’re shoving the ‘Real Housewives’ shows down my throat and I just can’t look away b/c it’s such a hot mess…. the companies know this and they capitalize off the fact that we just can’t look away….

they sure dont, they always do black shows dirty. The Game will black out and cut to commercial in the middle of the daym show playing, not when its suppose to…then baldwin hills got the longest phuckin commercials i ever seen, the show is 10 minutes and the commercials are 20

Mr. sauce….

Im well how about yourself?

He is very smart and I LOVE that show. I will be sad to see it go. When it moved to Friday’s I knew they were trying to cancel it. They are trying to do the same to “Everybody Hate Chirs”. And the way they did “Girlfriends” was just disrespectful. They didn’t even give that show a proper ending. I will be writing letters. and the Game does get better raitings then “Gossip Girl” and “90210″, but they promote those shows more b/v that’s what they want to shove down our throats….. oooooo let me go get started on my letter now.

Black people don’t support each other and that’s a shame. I LOVE THE GAME! That show is the hottest thing since girlfriends went off the air. We all need to support this show and watch it on Fridays.

I would rather see black cast members on regular shows mixed in with whites then an all black comedic sitcoms. why do we have to have a laugh track on all our shows? .. If your going to a all black cast then give me a CSI Atlanta, or a New Orleans version of greys anatomy.

Co sign what homie was saying… and the ladies talking about education as a priority… I just hope you don’t mean letting the STATE educate your kids… when I have kids there is no way in hell I would ever send them to one of those Public Indoctrination Camps (government schools… they are not public…) so they can inject him with some mercury tainted vaccine… and teach him to obey the state above all else… do you know they have programs in these schools… where they tell you to go home and look in the medicine cabinet… spy on your parents and you can get a $200 reward… but who cares about that… the game is on…
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VERY GOOD STATEMENT!!

i agree with his comments. funny thing, i am not a complete fan of the show the game, however it is one of the few shows w/ some brown faces, so i do tune in for my brown fix. i am not a fan of the overall premise of the show! this show does not represent african american women in the most positive light either. i wish someone would remake the cosby show. i can still sit and watch reruns of the cosby. that was quality television!

This is the truth, not only because the simplicity of it, but a side that is disregarded by media standards. I feel that our freedom in America is jeopardized if we can’t be honest and use freedom of the press and speech to gain recognition. One thing about the media is how it is careful to how it creates cultures (which it does meticulously). The majority of perceptions one may have often is channeled into what is in their mind or thinking. You just don’t one day want to play basketball or go all of a sudden to your favorite shop or restaurant, it is channeled or directed. The African American side of media that gives off a good impression is at a compromise in competition with other media segments with authenticity of an African American figure, it is either one or the other. So many other races who were oppressed have never lossed their identity and struggle is never taken lightly or as a joke, but we allow it to happen to us. When this happens our identity is trapped in a box or on a peice of paper. I say this because the African identity is deminishing due to what we feel we owe for everything we’ve been given much less appreciated for.

This show is simply awesome i’ve been watching it since it first came out..

& and I agree with the person obove me we dont support each other…

What black people need to do is stop signing up for these ‘reality shows’ and sit down at a desk somewhere and learn something. It’s something that is unwritten but ‘those people’ are always trying to prove how ridiculous black people are and how we will not hesitate to embarrass ourselves and our race and throw our morals out the window for a fee. FLavour of Love, I Love NY, Real Chance of Love and now there is Ray J doing some foolishness; THIS *ISH HAS TO STOP PEOPLE!! All ‘they’ do is point and laugh and say, “yep, we told you, for a fee they will degrade themselves”. Dang, they even kicked that lady from Housewives of Something just coz she wasn’t ‘ghetto enough! This is just a diff form of slavery going on, except this time we have the power to say NO as long as we are not enticed by the money. We can do better people

There are just as many white shows that degrade them too so I don’t knock VH1 They make everyone look bad equally.

Yeah, “they” know what to do with blacks in television, but just are determined to do what they want to do with them in television. But, I blame the Flava Flav’s and New York’s of the world for allowing themselves to be exploited in this way.

I say if they’ve only got booty call, pimp, whore/ho, boy’s in the hood, welfare receiver, crack head, maid type roles, don’t take them.

I totally agree with him, because there is a lack of quality black programming but there is a over abundance of bafoonery. I refuse to watch any of the “reality” shows on VH1 or BET (including that trainwreck Keyshia Cole show) because I’m not going to contribute to perpetuating those negative steriotypes. It’s really unfortunate because people in other countries also get alot of these shows and if that was there only introduction to black Americans they would think that we’re all idiots. From tv to music our level of self respect is slowly being diminished. It’s like Stepin Fetchit the 2009 edition. SMH!

If you tired of I Love New York,Real Chance of Love, Rock of Love, and so on. STOP watching it don’t sit here bitch about it but watch it every Monday. If people stop watching these show they will stop.

I’m definatly down for the cause! Im writing my letter 2day.

@eddiedollars215

Well, all of us can’t afford “private” schools are most of those schools that are “better” than public schooling….there are brilliant and wonderful people that graduate from public school system. EVERYTHING…I mean, EVERYTHING, goes back to parenting. Some of the public schools are a safe havan for kids growing up in a terrible home environment, and unfortunately have to come home and forget about the dreams schools are selling to them cause they have to watch their mother shoot up their arm, or their father verbally/physically abuses them and their morale. There are public school systems that are in DIRE need of help, but I am a firm advocate for the system and if I can’t help my children go to the best school for their interests and needs, please believe I’ll be taking them to public school.

It seems as if most are feeling the same way.

What if everyone were to commit to sending just 1 e-mail a day to 1 major network in the morning, before coming to Bossip. If you’re like me most of the time I’m just waiting for them to post the days first story anyway.

I agree with his comments and those of others. Other than the Law & Order series and PBS, I do not watch network TV, but I’ll defintely have to check out the Game. None of the “reality” TV shows depcit anyone in a good light. The networks use them because they are popular and, more importantly, CHEAP – no writers or actors to pay, or sets to build, etc. I believe that the screen writers/actors guild have been fighting this stuff for years. It is good to see Black actors on other shows, but I grew up on the Jeffersons, Good Times, What’s Happening, Sanford & Son, Fat Albert, etc. Even Sesame Street, Electric Company, Reading Rainbow, etc had diverse casts. I can check out reruns on TV One, but getting back to quality shows that depict our people in a hollistic and realitic way would be a dream come true. I guess that I need to write some letters to complain and/or organize a letter writing compaigns with my friends and family. Thanks, Bossip, for the great post!

So this is white America’s fault? No, its black peoples fault

BTW I got CBS. I’m not saying they don’t but I can’t remember the last AA show they had on there.

We need a black history channel devoted to teaching everyone just black history. Relying on a month isn’t going to cut it and seeing that not a lot of Black Americans are adoring books that give of educational value I think a channel will be ideal

Nikki u.. my sweet love stop being so cordial with me.. mr sauce.. are you mad at me babes? old mild wont be the same if you are mad!

Mmmmm Eddie Dollar…

I hear Malik, but he’s chanting unknown tongues to a death choir. TV is useless causes individuals to become clones. At least you can google words on the computer. If Blacks are unhappy go to the internet, who’s hanging in front of the television in 09 anyway? Books are EVERYWHERE! Pens have ink.

Waiting on someone to liberate you is LAZY!

He is RIGHT ON POINT! why was I having this exact conversation with my girlfriend last night when we were watching Re-Reuns of the Game online? she said the exact same thing – that they moved it to Friday to set it up to be cancelled. That show is one of the funniest and honest shows out there on TV- they are not doing a good job of marketing it because it would do so well if given a chance. That show is the truth! and why is Derwin so damn fine? Anyway, I digress….point is Hosea is brave for speaking out and speaking the truth…but either way – i’m watching until it gets cancelled. And you are right, aside from Tyler Perry House of Payne and The Game, what else is there? and The Game to me is not even that accurate a representation of Black Families anyway, so it’s more like we have 1.5 TV shows….Anyway, I LOVE the show. Am a BIG fan and wish all the cast members the very BEST.
And @ Brandon…Shut the f*ck up if you don’t know what you’re taking about …

Nikki u.. my sweet love stop being so cordial with me.. mr sauce.. are you mad at me babes? old mild wont be the same if you are mad!

I am never mad at you!! I see a MAN I respect one; thats all Hunny Bunny, Sweet Cakes! XOXO…

@ Marshabio – You are sooo right. They do know what to do with Blacks on TV – it’s FLAVA FLAV and I LOVE NEW YORK and them CHANCE brothers and The Real Housewives of Atlanta where they kicked off the only normal chick because there was not enough head twisting…Hosea is also right about lack of Black activism as well. The other women on the real housewives should have protested when they removed her, but nooooo – every man for himself with the result being everyone only thinks of us as coons and gangsters and angry black women — smh…Ohhh, this post is about to make me go off today. Lemme stop,..

I didn’t need to read an exclusive interview with Malik to know that. But it’s not just white america, even blacks don’t know what to do with blacks in entertainment. Let’s get back to developing some sitcoms and kill all this fake reality stuff.

There is such a lack of opportunities for African Americans on t.v. that the standard for black television has loward itself over the last couple of years..We look at the coons, and minstrels on tv. like Flava Flave and New York who continuosly embarrass and degrade the image of black people, but they don’t care because their getting paid and putting food on the table, to them their just doing what they got to do to make it..It’s just like video ho’s they actually see degrading themselves as a stepping stone to something bigger because as black people our standards are so low, it’s like we’re still setteling for scraps off of massa’s table, these garbage ass reality shows, taking roles pimps, drug dealers, ho’s and porch monkeys.

The Game is my absolute favorite show on tv…I record it faithfully and watch it faithfully as well. I have emailed the network about the show on a couple of occassions and joined the movement on myspace, guess we should call Tom Joyner or something that can reach the masses to get the movement more publicity

I have friends that contact that network consistantly behind The Game. It’s racism!!!! Forget them! Sell the show to another network. HBO or Showtime will pick it up! The proof is in the pudding (ratings)! This may be a blessing in disguise!

Oh and I love you Malik aka Hosea!!! The Game features some fine azz men

I tend to think that it’s black people who don’t know what to do with black people on tv.

There’s been less than a handful of good shows over the last 15 years.

Someone needs to start a black nielsen to prove the African-American viewership numbers.

I know this is off point, but a prime example of black exploitation in media to me are McDonald’s commercials. I hate them!! They always have someone black person singing or poppin’ and lockin’ for some chicken nuggets, but they never have anyone else acting that way. The one that is supposed to be like a R&B video for mcnuggets just pisses me off because it’s like they see our songs have gotten so ridiculous, that they can make a commercial that looks like a video on BET. Don’t get me started on the new Calvin commercial where they have 2 black boys aspiring to work at McDonald’s when they grow up! I guess the only opportunity they’ll have for a scholarship or a career is by working in fast food. They never have a commercial with white kids looking forward to working at McDonald’s only black and brown kids!!

whut up Purpple!!

okay I co-sign that dudes entire statement. I have never heard any celebrity-actor ever put it out there like that. not too much to add, he said it all.

oh and Eddie.. your on point.. as usual. and Home schooling is your friend, and is alot more affordable then people might thing,

This is another reason why I have such a lack of respect for BET, it’s sad that we have a black television station and all they do is show negative, stereotypical bullshit, they’re worse than white television..BET doesn’t have a single educational, political, or black history program to help uplift the state of black people.

B-Buffoon
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I personally don’t like Tyler Perrys type of humor, I do like The Game, and did like girfriends, all though I really am not a big TV buff. Shows like Law and Order do hire blacks in serious rolls, or maybe CSI, therfore we should concentrate on doing film in unison with white people instead of trying to just do our own shows. If we try to seperate they do seperate and they run Hollywood, so the answer is just logic. The show with Holly Robinson Peete comes to mind, where the black couple and the white couple interacted on a daily basis. We can then back door Hollywood, because once white people start watching the show and see us in a different light, it will bring better results.

You know, I agree with the education statement; I’m in college and my mother graduated from Howard, so I wasn’t raised around any dummies. But, at the same time, entertainment is a huge part of our existence. That’s like going away to college, and ONLY studying, and not experiencing things on your own, like traveling, joining clubs, and let’s face it going out to parties. So, there needs to be a balance between books and entertainment. We do need to fight for more recognition and work for black actors and black shows. Besides The Game and House of Payne, there’s nothing else. You just have us sprinkled throughout these predominantly white shows. We don’t need Jesse and Al, as our leader, we ALL need to come together and make some serious decisions like fighting for things like this, and of the more serious topics.

I know this is off point, but a prime example of black exploitation in media to me are McDonald’s commercials. I hate them!! They always have someone black person singing or poppin’ and lockin’ for some chicken nuggets, but they never have anyone else acting that way.
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I wish they would use real people for the commercials because the people I see through the glass window waiting on line at Mcdonalds look nothing like the people in the commercials, and I must stress on the nothing part

This is another reason why I have such a lack of respect for BET, it’s sad that we have a black television station and all they do is show negative, stereotypical bullshit, they’re worse than white television..BET doesn’t have a single educational, political, or black history program to help uplift the state of black people.

B-Buffoon
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Farrakahn said that BET is owned by satanic jews

Hosea, if you’re reading, I already LOVED you and this interview just pushed my to a new level. CW knew what they were doing moving the show to Friday night. But it’s okay!! We’re still gonna get our fix.

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I love The Game!!! I hate how when it goes off they don’t show previews of the next episode like on other shows that sucks…And I hate how they canceled Girlfriends eventhough it wasn’t as good as when Toni Child’s was there.

I am a faithful watcher of the Game every Friday…I hate the fact that it’s on Friday, but hey I’m just glad they didn’t cancel it! I think they don’t know what to do with the Game thats why they keep moving it around…first it was on, on Monday’s, then it was on, on Sunday’s, now Friday’s! They also need to make it longer than 30 mins because after commericals you’ve only wactched a 15 minute show. Then it feels rushed through. All the other shows except Everybody Hates Chris and the Game are an HOUR…SO NOT FAIR. It’s ridiculous. I hope the GAME gets its hour and gets a fair time slot and a on a better day of the week!!

The fact is the creation of a black only entertainment channel will always allow for the justification of the lack of black representation on main stream TV.Afterall there isn’t a native american or chinese entertainment channel.The smart thing to have done upon the creation of BET was to make quality programmes that everybody could watch .if this had been done then some of these programmes could have moved to the main stream.What I find funny is that this black entertainment channel portrays black people in such an horrendous light.Nobody wants to see people shouting,screaming and shaking their booty all the time.The opportunity was there to provide a service that would portray black americans in a better light and that opportunity was MISSED!!.America does know what to do with blacks it gave you BET!! live with it

Farrakahn said that BET is owned by satanic jews
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I wouldn’t doubt it, there has to be a reason for their garbage ass programs.

@luvchild – I can commit to write at least one email.

@eddiedollar – Private schools in area run $15K to as much as alomst $30K per child per year. A friend of mine just pulled her daughter out of the same school that Sasha and Malia Obama attend. Even with financial aid, she had to come up with $27K per year for just one kid! We supplement the free public school eduaction with vacations, museum and zoo trips and other extracurriculars that we pay for. We make a very good living, but we cannot afford those prices and pay a mortgage, too. God bless you, if you can.

The game is my show I will admit that it coming on Friday nights at 8:30 slips my mind and I am always upset I missed it…Sunday was better.

The networks have so many dumb shows they are trying to push but the only black shows are getting phased out.

In lieu of a Black history channel, try Legacy Magazine. It’s great!

This is nothing new. Start up and fledgling networks, always use low budget black programming as “LOST LEADERS” to gain traction, and once said traction has been gained they(the network) will ween themselves off the whole niche market and go mainstream, i.e. “WHITE” – Plus the fact, that over 90% of those Nielsen boxes are placed in white homes. Trust, with those stacked odds, niggas don’t stand a chance. Cosby was an anomaly, never to be replicated. It is, what it be.

Heyy Nina homie!!!

yes he said that real down to earth and intelligent like. whats poppin today, bossip need to heat things up for this lovely friday!

STEFANY

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I wouldn’t doubt it, there has to be a reason for their garbage ass programs.

Viacom is owned and ran by Satanic Jews? – Jews yes, Satanic (maybe).

Now Im here…and Nina’s here…..so that toy gun plastic glok should come runnin with her panies in a bunch annnnytime now…..

Purpple, damn Im digging your screen name. puh-lease its boring in here.. im going to terroize fiddy for a min.. lol

You know I just stop back by to pick you up.. lol

LOL, ok im on my way. That used be my screen name on my whichamacalit page but i had to keep purpple on here too. I stole that from my homegirl x hustlin boyfriend, that was his name.

this is so true and it’s about time somebody said something. I know it might be bad to watch so much TV but I love TV, and there are just not enough Black shows to watch. The only way I can see Black people on TV is by watching some trashy for love reality show. I agree the Black actors are lazy and haven’t been doing anything active about it and I wish they would.

Why are you not voicing your concerns to BET about the quality of their programmes?.Why did you opt to have a black television channel in the first place if the programmes were going to be unwatchable and sub-standard?

If you want to check shows directed towards black folks you have to watch TV1. You can get your good times fix.

He is right. We have to take a stand as people of color. They degrade us on t.v. in the A list celebs go with the flow for the check. I guess it’s C R E A M everywhere in America.
Cash Rule Everything Around Me.

I personally wrote the network about the cancelling of Girlfriends. We need more images of us like that. Educated women, without drug addict parents or a baby daddy.

I’ve met some people who felt that Girlfriends was bad representation of Black women. Some people felt that Joan held the stereotype of a woman who couldn’t keep a man. Toni was a trifflin gold digger, Lyn was a freeloader, and Mya was a teenage ghetto mother <— these are not my thoughts just thought I’d bring them up

he is soo right,he is cute to

@elle
is the Keyshia cole show a better representation of black women?

Flavor of Hosea on VH1 2010

I love The Game! I’d hate for it to be cancelled however I can see it happening regardless I hope the storylines are resolved.

is the Keyshia cole show a better representation of black women?
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I actually find that show to be highly embarrassing but I also know that no one’s family is perfect. As said in the comment I wrote THOSE were not my thoughts about Girlfriends these are thoughts of other black women and men

I cosign with EVERYTHING this brother said. I don’t even watch TV because of the garbage that stinks up our living rooms. There used to be a show back in the 80′s called, “Up and Coming” about a black family living in the Bay Area. As a matter of fact, Cindy Heron, the member of En Vogue, played the daughter, Valerie. It was an excellent show. Canceled.

@My2Cents>>>That’s the absolutely truth. Supply and demand. When I went to see, “Akeelah and the Bee,” I saw only a couple black children in the theater (many more white people and their children); however, when “Set it Off” came out in the theater, you would’ve thought it was a Disney movie. Streams of black children pouring in with their mamas and/or mamas and daddies. Even my godchildren were allowed to watch, “Players Club.” I was told that there were parents that took their children to see, “Notorious.” I mean, come on. Is that child-appropriate? We don’t get proactive anymore. We sit back and wait for everyone else to do something about our plight.

Back in the day, we had 227, Amen, The Cosby Show, A Different World, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and a myriad of other good programming. Until WE take a stand, nothing will change.

I admit I watch THE GAME for Wendy Robinson, but the writing for this show is horrible! Tyler Perry is the same, but I continue to support even if it means hitting record & then delete.

The episode of THE GAME about being Gay on the football team was the last straw, 2 men singing “Put you to bed” was beyond believable

VH1 I is very jelous of BET as you can see by their programming! For The Love of Ray J. I Love Money 1,2 …and sooon to be Flavor of Derwin LOL

The fact is why are people complaining about not having enough black shows to watch when that was the reason for creating a black tv station. Besides africa (of course)its only america(that i know) that has a black tv station

I am so glad to finally see a young black man who isn’t concerned with how many freaks he can knock down because he’s on tv (Bobby V, what a waste of skin!!). and finally speak on something that is worth talking about. and he definitely has a point. the black shows today that get all the air time are HORRIBLE and DEMEANING!! and of course, there’s another to come out, Mr Ray J who thinks he’s looking for love, yet has a cast of women who resemble that of streetwalkers and low budget porn stars. this will yet be another DISGRACE of a show, but will get airtime cause of just what he said, cause the women will be damn near naked the entire show and Ray will show his azzzz and embarass young black america yet again!!! is this all young black america has to offer? Disrespectful men and the women who are willing to belittle themselves for their 5 minutes of fame or should i say shame. quality is definitely what is lacking. i don’t even allow my daughter to watch music videos or any of those reality shows, cause i don’t even want her to think for a minute that women are only good for their bodies and nothing more.

@Re,

T.V.s dont take life and hold people hostage. If you dont want to watch TV you dont have to have one in your home. The radio can give you up to the minute news reports.

i think that question that you ask Hosea is true, because that is what seems to be happening everytime they get ready to dismiss a show. that is sad if that is the case. BLACK LOOKS GOOD ON TELEVISION!!!!

elle@11:46>>>back in the 80′s and 90′s, BET used to have wonderful programming, i.e., Video Soul w/Donnie Simpson, Live in L.A. w/Tonya Hart, and a lot of news/educational shows as well, but I think many of them didn’t get the support, thus they canceled them.

elle@11:46>>>back in the 80’s and 90’s, BET used to have wonderful programming, i.e., Video Soul w/Donnie Simpson, Live in L.A. w/Tonya Hart, and a lot of news/educational shows as well, but I think many of them didn’t get the support, thus they canceled them.
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BET had a lot of support during those times. BET wanted to compete with MTV and started to change their programming so much so that MTV bought the station. BET ain’t really B.E.T. it just continues to use the old logo and name

@bb>>>I think people are complaining about the lack of substance on BET. Personally I think TV One is much better. I’m glad they have television that cater to black people, just like they have stations that cater to Latinos, gays/lesbians, women, etc. BET had better programming back in the day, but didn’t get the support they needed to keep them on the air. That’s my guess.

Thanks Bossip!!!! I thought yall had cut me off for all the free advertising I was doing for the show. Nice to see you landed this exclusive.

(I’m typing this message hoping it will be posted even though yall have not been posting my comments for like month or so)

@elle>>>Okay, I see. Yeah, it’s too bad that BET is BET in name only.

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Yeah I think you black folks are whining way too much. There are just as many trashy white shows as their are black shows. The problem is that you need to mitigate the perceptions of black folks in your public life not trying to manipulate television. Dont think you are going to cleanse TV of all the bad images of black when the reality of blacks doesnt change.

jaybird

I know this is off point, but a prime example of black exploitation in media to me are McDonald’s commercials. I hate them!! They always have someone black person singing or poppin’ and lockin’ for some chicken nuggets, but they never have anyone else acting that way. The one that is supposed to be like a R&B video for mcnuggets just pisses me off because it’s like they see our songs have gotten so ridiculous, that they can make a commercial that looks like a video on BET. Don’t get me started on the new Calvin commercial where they have 2 black boys aspiring to work at McDonald’s when they grow up! I guess the only opportunity they’ll have for a scholarship or a career is by working in fast food. They never have a commercial with white kids looking forward to working at McDonald’s only black and brown kids!!

- haha you are not lying kinfolk , the mcdonalds ads are by far some of the worst things for marketing to our audience. If the Calvin’s dream job ad to crooning for nuggets.. smdh

@Wordtothewise
That may well be the case but I have been on blogs where white people have been ranting about black people and they have incuded in their list of rants among other things the existance of a black entertainment tv i.e”they even have their own tv station nobody else does” .Now this could be the justification or excuse used by the networks to reduce the number of black programmes on mainstream

he’s right…i will be complaining,i’ve been trying to remind people every single week that the game and everybody hates chris comes on…but its not enough…i tuned in to “meet the browns” this week and actually like it better then the paynes show so im trying to support our television…..i will be writing oprah..lol

Black shows don’t make it because black men are sellouts and gay now they don’t giva a dam* about the black race anymore.

Black men have hate there own black race now and it’s sad. The Dark Black Men are the worst ones they hate there jet black skin color so there trying to make it harder for the whole black race.

Black men stand up and be a man our ancestors have fought to hard to keep black power alive and black men don’t even care anymore. Sad Gay Black Men in America Right Now..

txhustla15 omg you are soooo right those chicken nugget commericials have always annoyed me…and black folks think its funny……lets see some kid rock lincoln park type of white people singing that ish for once…ugh.

That may well be the case but I have been on blogs where white people have been ranting about black people and they have incuded in their list of rants among other things the existance of a black entertainment tv i.e”they even have their own tv station nobody else does” .Now this could be the justification or excuse used by the networks to reduce the number of black programmes on mainstream
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every culture has their own channel russians, asians, germsns, etc. BET just happens to be a little more national

@bb>>>I don’t know what their justification is. People complaining about BET probably having even tuned it. Also, while these white people are ranting (and really, I could care less what they say or think), they fail to understand that networks, including BET are owned by white corporations. It’s not true that others don’t have their own networks as I stated in my post (Telemundo, Universion, LOGOS (for gays/lesbians), Lifetime for WOMEN, etc.) Are they complaining about those? I doubt it.

@elle>>>thank you. Everyone has their own network that caters to their own demographic. Why should this be a problem when black people do it?

@MrsT
Thank you. I thought (doing it before coming to Bossip) would be an easy way for everyone to carry it out. Do our small part, I mean hell, e-mails are free.

Anyhoo, I thought about my earlier post and e-mailing the same network everyday might seem a bit stalkerish, LOL, so I’ll be switching it up. But who I really need to be e-mailing is Zane, in protest, to get those ugly dudes off her show, esp. Budda, Ugh.

Ratings Ratings drive a T.V show . Who wants to see smart , educated and beautiful Balck Woman on T.V its always The big Black bitch or the dumb Ignorant brother I hate it as much as the next but a T.v show needs ratings

His statements were so on point! I feel sorry for the kids coming up today because they hae NO quality TV. We had The Cosby’s, A Different World, Fresh Prince or Bel Air, Family Matters, The Jeffersons, Good Times, Sanford & Son, Teen Summit, BET News, etc… ALL of these shows were positive and created a message of “doing better for yourself”. Now all we have is straight GARBAGE! What pisses me off is not so much the reality shows, but the discrimination in the reality shows. White girls get The Bachelor who is usually a doctor, lawyer, or some professional, but Black girls get brokedown MFers like Flava Flav and Ray-J. Our kids get BS like Baldwin Hills, while white kids get The Real World.

I have been wanting a boycott of BET since Viacom took control and turned the station into a 24/7 soft porn and bafoonery network. TV has major influence on our culture and the media knows it, and they are intentionally setting out to the destroy Black culture with a bunch of ignorance and dumbness.

I am so proud and happy to hear him speak on this topic. I felt they moved Everybody hates Chris and The Game to Friday’s because they knew that they would lose ratings. I still try to support both. I will definately be contacting the networks.

Let our voices be heard and our shows left alone.

when your tv show sucks, blame it on racism, just as George Lopez did

They should put post about on CNN and other outlets , about the increase in demand for black models after viewing Obamas daughters. At least there is something positive going on today and that some marketers are finally seeing black is beautiful…

*sigh* I love Hosea. I watch The Game and I think it’s a great show. I was mad they moved it to Friday because I knew they were trying to get rid of it. I hoped it didn’t just go away like Girlfriends.
When people say a “representation of black people” you can’t expect all black people to be represented. For example, I used to watch “Queer as folk” on Showtime and the gays were upset because they felt it misrepresented them. You have to understand, you can’t represent all black people with one show. We have to have many, many shows that represent all aspects of “black” life, good, bad or otherwise.

Damn, The Game us my SHYT! why is it not on dvd yet?

}}}}}}} HE NEEDS TO DIRECT HIS COMMENTS TOWARDS HIS FELLOW ACTORS…. ALTHOUGH WE ARE ALL AWARE THERE ARE ONLY A FEW SHOWS ON TV THAT ARE BLACK SHOWS, HIS REMARK THAT BLACK PEOPLE’S “LAZINESS’ TO BECOME ACTIVIST TOWARDS MORE BLACK SHOWS IS OFFENSIVE AND DISINGENUINE, IF IT WEREN’T FOR BLACKS AND MAYBE OTHER MINORITIES HANGING IN THEIR WITH HIS SHOW HE PROBABLY WOULD’VE BEEN CANCELLED ALREADY!!!!! NOTE; HE ALSO NEEDS TO SPEAK WITH THE FAMOUS VETERAN BLACK ACTORS LIKE WILL SMITH, DENZEL ETC. TO FIND OUT HOW THEY MANAGED TO BE BLACK AND STILL REMAIN ON TOP FOR SO MANY YEARS…. MAYBE MALIK NEEDS TO DO LIKE THEM,AND SEE THAT SMALL SCREEN TV DOES NOT GUARANTEE JOB SECURITY IN THE ACTING FIELD AND STOP BLAMING IT ON PEOPLE LIKE US , WHO DON’T GET PAID THE BIG $$$$$$ … HE IS NOT SMART FOR WHAT HE SAID ABOUT BLACK VIEWERS BEING DISINTERESTED AND HE NEEDS TO THINK NEXT TIME BEFORE HE SPEAKS :{

@Txhustla15 (Lounging in the Austin Weather)

I so agree with you, ive been noticing this since I was about ten years old. I am 24 now, funny how things just dont change.

To me all of the Housewives show are a disgrace to women but being a black woman Housewives of Atlanta was downright insulting. I stopped watching after the 2nd episode the cat fighting and paternity test…ridiculous…they handpicked these ignorant grammatically challenged females to represent blacks. I know more intelligent women were up for the roles. soooo sickening.

I understand why this is important to Hosea.At the same time…the question begs:Should television be important at all? Seems to me that the medium is a “equal opportunity offender” when it comes to representing human behavior in the the form of a television series.Plenty of shows that have all White casts make me SMH when I manage to catch short snippets of them.Last I checked-there were no ASIAN themed shows on network TV AT ALL.Maybe we need to take a page & realize that/// SUBSTANCE (education,ownership,entrepreneurship)IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN STYLE(tv series’ & number of Black people on them)/// When I do find myself watching-it’s usually sports or something on the Discovery/History channel anyway.I might add that Hosea’s lament is not new.Even when there was a significant number of shows with Black casts on TV-Jesse & Al & a host of other shakedown artists still were’nt happy with the content.Times have changed.THE INTERNET has low barriers to entry.All that’s needed is a coupla’ cameras & a YOU TUBE account & you can start a network of your own.If you feel so compelled to get a story out-there’s NOTHING stopping you.

what he had o say was so put together and i totally agree with him we need some more quality blks shows on television, and not have to rely the vh1 shows i will admit i watch them but it just entertainment I think it is utterly stupid and “THE GAME” is on of the best shows on television, the cast is amazing. Malik speaks very well and seems very intelligent so more power to him

Girlfriends was one of the best shows on T.v

I blame tyler Perry His movies suck

People give Tyler Perry tooo much credit he makes Black women look desperate and weak. i.e Diary of a ignorant ass black woman. Madeas Family Reunion, when the woman basically exchanged her daughter for money..what the hell ever-hate to sound racist but that is big time white shit!!!

Kigali (Is working with a full clip of IDEAS)

@Re,

T.V.s dont take life and hold people hostage. If you dont want to watch TV you dont have to have one in your home. The radio can give you up to the minute news reports.
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@Kigali

I know that. That’s why I referred back to my child hood (see entire post)…I think it’s a great idea to limit TV in your home…it helped mmy siblings and I with our imagination…

I understand where hes coming from. TV aint the same like it used to be. there used to be alot of black sitcoms to watch like The Cosby’s, Fresh Prince, Family Matters, A different world, Hangin with Mr. Cooper, The Jamie Fox Show, Moesha…and the list goes on. It feels like the are plotting to eliminate as much Black sitcoms or TV as prossible. After they cancelled Girlfriends, it was a wrap. Now the only have The Game and a few others. But Hosea needs to take action and do something about it instead of waiting for Al Sharpton’s and Jesse’s ass…they aint gonna do shit!..and so called black tv like BET is a j/k now my opinion. it aint the same anymore. its full of BC now. so black tv needs to improve foreal.

@Leeha
You don’t have to resent my comments .I am based in the UK but when I lived in the U.S BET was owned by a black man.If this is no longer the case then they should change the name because for those that are not as enlightened as you clearly are it looks like a black tv channel that is showing black people at their worst they might as well call it the Ghetto entertainment tv

Nice glad someone called it out.

Hosea is has a very valid argument, and who better to provide the break-down than some who is in the mix. You know, we did have more shows representing black people in the 90′s. It seems as if they have slowly faded away. As an aspiring actor, I am really frustrated with this. I think that the actors out there now that can make a difference need to jump start this effort and make some ish happen. People are funny, they won’t get up until they see other get up.

Hosea definitely made some good points (he’s fine & intelligent, what a plus & a rare thing to find these days) but once again it is up to US (African Americans) to stand up and turn things around. We are so good at complaining or calling things out how we see them, but never taking any actions. I am glad that Bossip provided a list of contact information for these major cable networks because I am going to send an email over to CW about “The Game” and to a few other cable networks as well. We always think that what we do doesnt count especially if it seems like such a small task (emailing a network for starters) but trust it does help. At least I can say I took a stand instead of sitting back and doing nothing, hoping that the next person will make a change.

Kinda reminds me of what’s going on with the Black community & Obama but that’s another story in itself.

I also want to say that I’m 23 years old (born in 1985) and I definitely see the difference between what I used to watch growing up and the choice that these kids have nowadays. There’s nothing positive on television anymore, or at least anything that kids would be interested in. Their focus is being put on trashy reality shows and BET’s 106 and Park, and we all know that countdown is full of nothing but coonery RAP & R&B music.

@Real Talk>>>I used to love City of Angels. That show was excellent. There was also an excellent program called, “Under One Roof” with Joe Morton, James Earl Jones, and Vanessa Bell Calloway that used to come on, but died a quick death. We’ve had quality programming in the past, but we don’t support them. Does anyone watch “Lincoln Heights?”

LOVE THE SHOW AND “BIG DADDY LEIK LEIK” LOL… i will be trying to send some emails regarding the problem. I DON’T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST SHOWS. it’s puts you on the edge of your seat kind of like ” A DIFFERENT WORLD” did back in the day

WOW… as usual… I went over most of your heads… so let me clarify… I would not EVER send my child to an indoctrination camp… PRIVATE OR PUBLIC… look into the things Marcus Klein is doing in chicago… and then get back to me… I could go into the whole prussian system we have in place… but most of you probably wouldn’t understand… keep letting T.he H.ierarchy E.nslaving M.e… pump your kids full of mercury… teach them that christopher columbus discovered america… masculizing (if thats even a word) your daughters and feminizing your sons… how is it that purp was the only one who knew I was talking about home schooling…

I love hear a black man speak with such intelligence! On that note…He could definitely get it!

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We need to stop telling Black people what they should and should not be doing, first of all. We are free to be bafoons, coons, educated, snobby or whatever! We are in a time where reality television is the norm. Black people are not the only people that have fallen victim to this form of exploitation. What you have to remember is that Black people tend to be funny, trend setters or/and just overall cool. If someone feels that I am just like New York, Hoops etc beacuse I am a black woman, then they are ignorant and truely have problems that spill over in other aspects of their lives. Trust. We can not get mad because these shows bring in ratings. Also, we do not know what actually went on behind the scenes on the set of Girlfriends..Why did that gal, Jones, leave? We really never got the full scoop due to her gag order. If your memories serves you well, Black people were complaining about the Cosby’s because “I don’t know any Black families living like the Cosby’s. That crap is fake!” A line I quoted care of Queen Latifah on Living Single. Another great show that I grew up watching, but yet she had expressed that in an episode. So seems like Black people are always complaining. When we start taking responsibility for ourselves and our family maybe our minds will be truely free and we can enjoy life.

It’s a shame though that trashy reality TV is the norm. Whether there are Blacks or Whites on the tube participating. I’m actually sick of it and which we could go back to just having sitcoms.

But you’re right, Black people will never be satisfied. Hence some Blacks calling “educated Black folks who speak proper” as acting white or not being “black enough”. So we’re damned if we do, damned if we dont.

@jaybird

OMG!!!!! You must have read my mind.

Also, Black people were complaining about the WB having all of the black shows. So now there is only 1. The Wayans Bros were funny, but complaints were abundant. ETC,ETC….Complaining or asking for more.

Hmm

Episodic television/film industries are no different than governmental administrations that are controlled by the rich, white elite who obtain a rapacious desire for possessions of wealth. While given positions of real power, they exercise restraint by having complete dominion over every aspect of worldly necessities of life/economic value. Or, in this case, it’s an absolute rule over all five phases of technological institutions of TV/filmmaking (development/pre-production/production/post-production/distribution).

Chanchez is correct. The majority of black televised shows have been limited to conventional roles that dramatically represent us in a negative appearance. The media provides unrealistic delineations/depictions of not only black Americans, but people of every race.

Black men are usually displayed as ruffian, failures with low-income jobs, are in/out of the system, and it focuses solely on the misanthropic characteristics among them. Black women are portrayed are clamorous and conspicuously loud, while their features are usually embellished/polished to camouflage their natural state.

These images are corrosive. The response of ‘some’ of white/black Americans is that, it’s a standardized, model or pattern of African-American behavior. This is not multiformity/diversity. It’s guilty liberal, white Hollywood tossing us a bone. If Hollywood wants ethnic progress, then melanin-charged individuals have to become apart of the decision-making processes. If not, we ‘may’ (optimism) not be represented properly when we grace the screen. We have to be desperate/impatient for change.

For those interested:

Bamboozled, directed by Spike, is a great, satirical film that focuses on the issues discussed in this article.

106 & PARK NEEDS 2 B CANNELLED.

BET NEED AN UPGRADE

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THAT NEW WACK SHOW THAT REPLACED RAP CITY NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN TOO!!!!!!!!

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i feel as though we as blacks arent being representd on tv. like we were because now where not the most targeted minority! the gays,latins, and arabs are! our country is more obsessed with middle easteners, immigration, and gay rights then black folks. tv is basically a jack off refliction of whats going on in society! TURN OFF THE DAMN TV SOMETIMES AND READ A BOOK!!

This has been one of the best posts I’ve read in a long time and I agree with everything that Hosea has said. It’s up to us to let the televison stations know that we want more quality programming. There are so many talented African-American actors and actresses out there, that it’s a shame that some of them have to stoop to reality tv just to get their names put out there. Another thing that upsets is that there are a lot of video models who never see the light of day on TV or movies with the few exceptions of Lauren London and Elise Neal, while others are doing men’s magazines just to get some kind of exposure, while our caucasian counterparts are getting all kinds of roles in t.v. and movies. So, it’s got to stop somewhere.

Parents need to monitor the content of televised programming their children consume on a daily basis. Use parental guidelines and block segments that don’t adhere to your standards.

This is a very insightful post, and Mr. Chanchez is on target with his comments.

I remember when people criticized The Cosby Show for being “unrealistic,” but, in my reality, the image of a household headed by two professional parents who were education-focused and taught their children values was the norm — And that image of black people was powerful and far-reaching.

The cancellation of Girlfriends left a void — particularly in the positive depiction of black women. When I watch the reruns now, I can’t help but miss that often resonating portrayal of educated, professional black women who didn’t fit the usual stereotypes.

A greater diversity in the depiction of African Americans is sorely needed in popular culture. Between the gyrating video vixens, the pimps and players, neck-rolling Sapphires, and other poor images, a negative, one-sided depiction of brothers and sisters is often broadcast to the population at large.

These images also have a deleterious effect on members of our community. I came across a story earlier today about a high school dance team in Ga. that was disbanded after the young girls on the team performed a very suggestive routine at a basketball game. At one point, they invited young boys from the audience to sit on chairs while they gyrated in front of them — At a HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL GAME. These young women looked like they belonged in a rap video, rather than a school function that parents and other adults attended.

We have to demand more for ourselves.

Okay since every one on this discussion board bitching about the lack of Black sitcoms, series, made for t.v. movies, and regular cinema movies, I have a solution for this problem:
Set a online studio on the web ! And the great thing is there is no limit what content one creates.

Hey Film, I guess we posted around the same time.

…..JUST WATCH SUMTHANG ELSE….

Sydney

How are you? How was your ‘focus’ today? I have more thoughts about parental guidance, but it won’t post.

@bb

I didn’t know if u were black or not, but your outsider looking in perspective was very apparent. You’re from the UK, that explains it. I think America should be use to black people by now. After all, we’ve been here long enough. And black people in America will continue to demand OUR place in OUR society, we helped build it. We are not an immigrant population like black people in the UK, with a well established culture back in our original birthplace. This is all we have so we have a right to demand that our community is accurately portrayed. –Anyway I think black america has bigger battles to fight then TV. And Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have more important issues to deal with.–This battle is for the black hollywood titans. I need this dude from the Game to become the activist that he wants the rest of us to become. His voice is louder then us. Denzel and Will need to form a production company or studio or something. After all, if Jennifer Lopez, Reese Witherspoon, and Drew Barrymore can produce their own movies, then they can. Also the writing on black shows is the worst, the Game is corny, barely funny. And Kevin Hill with Taye Diggs sucked, i tried to watch that BS. so despite the fact that Taye Diggs tried to blame black women and our hate for interracial relationships for his failure, the show was stereotypical and clumsy.

@Colonel StinkMeaner(Co Co Wheats is the SHIZNIT!!)

U RIGH..Y THEY ALWAYZ GET THE LAMEST HOSTS?

Film

My “focus” was good today, lol.

What are your thoughts on parental guidance?

Also, can you address some of the disparities in the film industry? For example, do you believe that the disinterest of some black film-goers in higher caliber films, such as Rosewood (as someone mentioned), contributes to the dearth in diversity of black cinematic portrayals?

His mother on the show Tasha Mac is a single mother. How dare you call out the industry and be a part of it. Whatever!

Also in terms of black cinema you get what you buy. Remember that. How many of ya’ll saw the Great Debaters? Now how many of ya’ll saw Soul Plane?
I rest my case.

About private schools being better, I don’t believe that is true. There are excellent public schools nation wide if parents just do a little research they could find a great public for their kid or kids. any way, why pay all that money for a private school when a parent or parents could use that extra money for education enrich ment such as trips to muesuems, summer schools day camps, early S.A.T. summer programs, college, etc.

THE GAME IS A CORNY SHOW…
WHA HAPPEN 2 ALL OF US?

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And of course the key to a student academic success is parental involve ment.

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all of us is super corney glad it is gone

@rome

I SEEN BOTH
GREAT DEBATERZ IZ WAYYYYYYY BETTA. LOL

This man is so ignorant. I mean really….Al Sharpton? That’s how you attract viewers and raise a Q rating these days?

Yes, Soul plane was a scadalous movie but this movie made so much money !

Opps, I meant scandalous !

@ PhatDjSwagger
IT WUZNT DAT BAD…LOL

i look at the game but a few actors does make the show corney if they got rid of those two characters and focus more on the younger actors the show would be much better

Hey Film and Sydney! Great posts, you guys as usual.

Film, you mentioned parental guidance. I agree wholeheartedly because as I stated in my post earlier, children were watching, “Set if Off” in droves when I went to see it years ago in L.A., yet hardly any black children when I went to see, “Akeelah and the Bee.” Also, my godchildren were very young when I went over their house and, lo and behold, they were watching, “Players Club” right alongside their mother. I thought, “what the…?”

Black people need to look past television. I grew up without it and turned out just fine..come to think of it so did most of my friends.

You know, we had imaginations..turned trees into castles, the water hose into Niagara Falls, used old boxes to construct class rooms at belted out science lessons to pine cones, which were our “students”. And, when we grew older, we took those imaginations to the labs and to the classrooms and constructed theories and compounds to shakeup the status quo.

Television is so overrated.

MADE A LOTTA BOOTLEGZ 2..LMAO!

has any noticed that a whole lot of reality shows start of with 2 black people aqnd then they ax their ass with in the first 4 episodes if they can make it that far

Hey WordtotheWise

Hi Dubya

Yes, you’re right about the boob tube — I do believe that the less time children spend in front of the TV the better. In fact, they should be reading as much as possible. There’s no substitution for the mental stimulation of books and other educational tools.

@dubya
yeah we can look past tv but at some point we want to relax in front of the tube in view shows we can relate 2

Hi Sydney, I swear, I can’t keep up with your ever changing pics!

Hi WordtotheWise!

As usual…great posts!!

@ PhatDjSwagger

WE DONT LAST LONG IN ANYTHING…

if any one has ever noticed that could you name 2 shows

I believe that it doesn’t just pertain to films, but also the music industry. Rosewood is analogous/equivalent to optimistic music (The Roots vs 50 cent). Most young men/women have been programmed that we are illustrated/represented in a pessimistic light. So, anything out of the norm, or conforming to a common type, results in absence of interest among us. So, that would be a yes.

The executives also play a role in exhibiting jejune, juvenile behavior among us. They don’t accept scripts that portray us as wholesome families, children, men, women. They’re basically afraid that it’s not common place in white society, resulting in box office tanks.

Not attempting to appear pessimistic, but if the scripts (9 times out of 10 will be written by a white writer) gets the approval stamp, it will most likely contain excessive, subliminal stereotypes and clichés.

the new show true beauty i decided not to watch it but was flipping past one night to see that the 2 black pep on the show have been kicked off

I can see why Dave Chappelle made that black real world skit where the only white person was kicked off the show for no reason

we did and are still doing something we voted

that comment was @
brandon

LMAO @ Dubya

I’m trying to slow down on the pic-changing.

@Film

“They don’t accept scripts that portray us as wholesome families, children, men, women. They’re basically afraid that it’s not common place in white society, resulting in box office tanks.”

This is a very interesting point. I watched a documentary recently in which a white film executive admitted that there’s a lack of desire to cast both a black man and black woman as a romantic couple for the big screen. It’s as if the concept of black love is viewed as foreign or “unsellable” to a wider audience. I suppose the same could be true for the observation you made about the lack of “wholesome” families as well.

Kudos for speaking what is “TRUTH” to you. We all have the right to express ourselves…ignorance or not. I agree that the images on television of solely black shows are boofoonary.

The reality is that we should stop looking for “someone” to fight “for us.” We have to fight, where we are mentally and culturally, to change those things that do not reflect our views. We don’t all come from the same place so its impossible for us to ALL have the same view…unfortunately.

we will always b*tch so get over it OBAMA cant cure everything. so stop acting like pep cant complain becaues at the end of the day we will do what ever we want

@ phatDjSwagger
It’s definitely true on those reality dating shows where the guy is white and they’ll sprinkle a few black girls in to be politically correct and keep them for a few episodes and then give them the ax because they don’t feel a “strong connection” with them. A prime example was a show called Mama’s Boy that came on a about a month ago. You could tell that none of the black girls had a chance but they kept them along for the ride. SMH

PhatDjSwagger

@dubya
yeah we can look past tv but at some point we want to relax in front of the tube in view shows we can relate 2
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No, we need to Work, Work, WORK! No time for relaxing!
I’m just kidding. I hear you. Your post reminds me to take a chill pill. Sometimes, I can be all or nothing…no middle ground.

sup every1

co sign

co sign victorian

Ya’ll are missing the point!…SMH

With all this ignorant blogging you guys are doing we will never have decent black show(s) just ignorant!

@jaybird
i noticed that too smdh2

@dubya
i dont give a damn what you say i am not going to work work work all the time. if it was meant for us to work all the time God would not have created a day of rest

WordtotheWise

‘Also, my godchildren were very young when I went over their house and, lo and behold, they were watching, “Players Club” right alongside their mother. I thought, “what the…?”’

How old were the children?

Sydney

‘It’s as if the concept of black love is viewed as foreign or “unsellable” to a wider audience.’

Television is supposedly a reflection of society, and the ultimate goal is to persuade the audience to believe their way of thinking. The key is not buy into the oversimplified conceptions, images of how we are seen on the screen. Right now, it appears as if the goal has been accomplished.

Also, the darker the male, the more masculine he is. Whereas, the lighter woman in the role, the more pure or virtuous she is (I’m sure you know that).

Will Smith actually asked for a black woman to play the supporting role in Hitch. Distributor/execs said, ‘We need someone marketable so the distribution will be a success. It’s just not realistic.’

Wordtothewise

I’m still attempting to post my thoughts on parenting, but Bossip isn’t have it for some reason.

PhatDjSwagger

@dubya
i dont give a damn what you say i am not going to work work work all the time. if it was meant for us to work all the time God would not have created a day of rest
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Did you read all of my post? I actually agreed with your rebuttal. The work, work, WORK, was a joke.

Film

Oh, yes, I’m very familiar with the significance of color in film casting. The documentary I mentioned earlier also had a segment on black actresses, and the host, Henry Louis Gates, talked to some sisters who discussed how certain standards of beauty determine how you are accepted in the industry.

“Will Smith actually asked for a black woman to play the supporting role in Hitch. Distributor/execs said, ‘We need someone marketable so the distribution will be a success. It’s just not realistic.’”

I’ve noticed that Will Smith has played opposite non-black women in his last few films, which I, frankly, found surprising because I thought he had more leverage than most black actors in choosing the castmate he wanted. Or maybe I’m being idealistic.

Sydney

What’s the name of the documentary?

What I’m alluding to is the dissociation that is visible in our community, and the problem is that it’s widely noticeable in white America. We don’t get along with each, or respect our counterparts. There constant bickering, fighting, and no one is holding themselves accountable for their actions. How do we expect Hollywood to believe that black on black love is an actual being?

Hell I’m busy trying to keep a job my damn self

@Film

I think this is the link to the PBS documentary, America Beyond the Color Line, http://www.pbs.org/previews/colorline_gates/. I watched it earlier this month.

“What I’m alluding to is the dissociation that is visible in our community, and the problem is that it’s widely noticeable in white America. We don’t get along with each, or respect our counterparts.”

So you’re saying that white America is aware of our divisions (well, I guess the whole world is aware), therefore this impacts Hollywood’s willingness to portray us in a more positive manner?

It’s sort of a which came first, the chicken or the egg, argument to me. I think there are plenty of examples of black love and unity to be found, but those images aren’t embraced by popular culture, and that has been the case for years.

Sydney

‘I thought he had more leverage than most black actors in choosing the castmate he wanted. ‘

Most establish, bankable actors have an advantage of power, but, most aren’t willing to compromise their income for the state of black America. Most of these individuals are very egocentric, and regard themselves as the center of everything. It’s all about a profitable gain, and incessant power.
And, they’re very much aware of these occurrences, but sadly most don’t want to take the risk/gamble to acknowledge these issues.

That’s why I have so much respect for Spike (not as successful as others), but he doesn’t conform to their ideologies.

I for one have just printed out the three pages containing all the networks contact info so I can voice my opinion where it will count. Didn’t you guys learn anything from the past presidential election?
I’m not trying to criticise anyone. It would be nice to have more quality ethic television programs to balance things out. I love The Game,Everybody Hates Chris, Girlfriends(reruns),Half & Half.

Film

“Most establish, bankable actors have an advantage of power, but, most aren’t willing to compromise their income for the state of black America.”

Interesting — This relates to my long-held suspicions about Will Smith. He goes home at night to a black woman, yet in his newest films, he plays opposite women who don’t resemble Jada or any other sister for that matter. I think Enemy of the State was one of the last films (outside of “Ali,” and that was a biopic) in which I’ve seen Will have a sister (Regina King) as his romantic lead.

I have a lot of respect as well for Spike Lee — He could make more money making different types of films, but he maintains his artistic integrity.

‘So you’re saying that white America is aware of our divisions (well, I guess the whole world is aware), therefore this impacts Hollywood’s willingness to portray us in a more positive manner?’

Not exactly. Basically, how can we expect/demand change, when we don’t show regard or consideration for each other. I’m very aware of examples of black romance/love. But, these production companies can easily state that their scripts are mere reflections of what ‘they’ believe to be true. You know the adage, ‘How can you peremptorily ask for respect, when we you don’t respect yourself and those that surround you.’

I’m fully aware of what is true, and these companies are as well. But until we step up, and find fix ‘in house,’ the game will continue. It’s been recycled over and over.

@Film – The kids were very young. I think they were around the ages of 6 and 8 (I can’t quite remember), but I do know they were way too young to watch such a movie. When I walked in, I said, “What are you guys watching this for?” but I didn’t want to get too out of pocket since they weren’t my children. They are now grown.

Bossip’s server gets out of pocket at times. I’m looking forward to reading your posts.

@Sydney, I knew that was the documentary you were talking about, but I couldn’t remember Henry Louis Gates’ name. I remember he was talking to a director or producer at his beach house in Malibu and he said that white people didn’t want to see black couples on the big screen. I shook my head at that nonsense. What, do they think black people have relationships that are any different from theirs. We’re not Martians. If there are white people that feel that way, they are a bit racist, don’t you think?

Film

“Not exactly. Basically, how can we expect/demand change, when we don’t show regard or consideration for each other. I’m very aware of examples of black romance/love. But, these production companies can easily state that their scripts are mere reflections of what ‘they’ believe to be true.”

This seems to be an argument that we visit frequently on this board. There is a lot of “fixing” to conduct inside our own community, to be sure.

We also have more control than we realize, I believe. If we want more quality TV programs/films, we should support them — Green is a color that few can ignore. It’s how Tyler Perry has gained prominence — His films are guaranteed to generate certain profits, so that return helps him in his future projects.

I just wish other black directors would reach a similar level that would allow them more creative freedom.

@WordtotheWise

Yes, that’s it! That’s the interview I was referring to earlier.

I think it goes back to the theory of what some call the “Other,” such as in Richard Wright’s Native Son or Ralph Ellison’s Invisible Man. To some white Americans, the notion of normal black people and of black couples/families that resemble them is not a concept in their purview. Notice the reaction among some to the Obamas, for example. Yes, I do feel this thinking is due to a level of racial bias, and also ignorance.

Sydney

‘He goes home at night to a black woman, yet in his newest films, he plays opposite women who don’t resemble Jada or any other sister for that matter.’

I’ve questioned this as well. Will is a businessman who fully fathoms/comprehends how to achieve success in filmmaking. He advocates/supports the ideologies of their cultural identity.

He also has several movies announced from now until 2011 that are already in the development phase. He also has a well-established, successful production company, Overbrook Entertainment, that’s producing every last one of them. Why would it really concern him who plays opposite him in a film?

Honestly, I think he questioned the companies, because it merely the right thing to do.

I’ve also heard rumors, but that’s another topic.

Hi qc, by the way

Film

Yeah, I’m sure I’ve heard the same rumors about Will.

If he has his own production company and can pull certain strings, it does strike me as conspicuously odd that he doesn’t push harder to give some of these coveted roles to black actresses who are already competing for limited work.

Something doesn’t sit well with me about that scenario.

Totally off-topic, but Michael Steele has been named GOP chair.

Yeah, Sydney, that notion is foreign to some people. You’re right – both racism and ignorance is what it’s about because some people, including some black people, can’t fathom that there are more Obamas out there than they think. I believe we form these opinions in part to the fact that a lot of people don’t read; many get all, if not most, of their information from TV – we believe what is fed to us via some network’s or studio’s interpretation of what we are “supposed to be.”

I will be making my voice heard via these email addresses, even though I don’t watch much television.

What do you think, Dubya?

The Republican National Committee elected Michael Steele as its first African American chairman today in Washington, a decision that came after an excruciating series of ballots that displayed a level of drama rarely seen in national politics.

On the sixth and final ballot Steele bested South Carolina Republican party Chairman Katon Dawson 91 to 77.

I’ve never been attracted to him on the show… primarily b/c he such a womanizer but damn after reading that I’m seeing this brother in a whole new light.

That is so true. I already knew when they moved the show to Friday that was why.The CW start out as UPN with majority African American shows. Which all got canceled one by one. I guess that’s the plan buy us out and get us off the air. I wish someone would by VH1 out because the fools on that channel are a disgrace to my race. Would someone talk to Mara Brock Akil about doing a Girlfriends movie? I’m still mad about how the f**cked over my favorite show.

@WordtotheWise

“You’re right – both racism and ignorance is what it’s about because some people, including some black people, can’t fathom that there are more Obamas out there than they think.”

Yes, I expect a level of racism and ignorance from some non-blacks, but it does sting when the same lack of awareness is exhibited by other African Americans.

And you’re right — We do need to read more, and know where we came from and what we’ve already accomplished.

Sydney

‘We also have more control than we realize, I believe. If we want more quality TV programs/films, we should support them ‘

I understand your point, but, we can’t support any televised programs/films that don’t exist. Over a decade, The Bill Cosby Show, Different World, Fresh Prince, etc., were all apart of a primetime lineup on different networks that were beneficial to our well-being. What quality black shows are present now? I’ll reiterate, the stamp of permission must go through the gatekeepers first, and they have a set standard of a resemblance of what is real.

‘Green is a color that few can ignore.’

I concur.

Sydney

‘it does strike me as conspicuously odd that he doesn’t push harder to give some of these coveted roles to black actresses who are already competing for limited work.’

It doesn’t strike me as odd. His central point of attraction is high investment capital/net profits.

I have a meeting.

Bye Sydney, Wordtothewise, qc704

I think the reason there aren’t too many African American TV shows out right now is because we have finally filtered into main stream. When you turn on the tube you DO see AA people on any given show at any given time. Some are CSI techs, others doctors, others lutenants and detectives, others presidents and etc. I am proud of the industry for taking a proactive approach and making many roles color blind. I salute the industry for that. And what we should be working on is gettting more execs to adopt these methods. Then, we won’t be counting how many shows are “black shows”. And I enjoy all of the crime dramas and etc.

Here is the reality…The media is owned by whites..whose to blame??? The rich blacks… when BET was sold to white people; I was done with the complaints of the rich blacks…Lack of power is the “new slavery” So many rich blacks are selfish trying to get what is “theirs”, and in the mean time is being a sell out to their own people…There are so many African American Millionaires….why can’t they come together and buy a freakin network????? That way Blacks can be portrayed positively… Im sorry to say but most of us still have a slave man mentality…

Go Oprah!!! Oxygen is the only network that is owned by an African American!!!

Am I the only one thinking that his name clearly proves that he’s not black … he’s Hispanic.

So, he can talk for black people??? He’s playing a black TV character, but this guy is not black.

HELLO.

Bye, Film. Take care now, and have a great weekend!

@ The Devil Is A Liar – lol cause his name , I know plenty of sanchez’s rodriguez’s and others that are black and can easily trace their origins to african descent..hmmm myself included

**its called african diaspora/aka the slave trade…

Bye, Film

Hi, Txhustla

African Diaspora refers to all the world’s people of AFRICAN DESCENT not slave trade.

@Lady J

Because the majority of wealthy African Americans in this country are MALE. And we all know men are typically not the gatekeepers of culture. They are about success in whatever form it comes. It is the women of a culture who use the capital the men earn to further the image and values of that culture.

Since so many men of color who do “make it” choose nonblack women to take on their journey, the culture doesn’t get the treatment it deserves. How can we help control the image of black folks when we (as a collective) have no money and no power. Now the few who do have power, like I said, are mainly men. Oprah has power and she has tried to produce films and get things done. When she does, half the community hates on it and the other half is busy somewhere else and don’t show up.

Look at the jews – they are so careful about their image and that is why they all flock to the entertainment business. They have been “burnt” before and they don’t want that shit to EVER happen again. Working in media helps them protect their image. They are in all level of media from development to production to the talent.

Black folks? We get burnt and burnt and burnt and still don’t do anything.

I always use the example of the films “Rosewood” and “Booty Call”. They opened around the same time. One film went on to become a hit and the other one flopped. Guess which one flopped?

true story
most reality shows make black people look angry,always wanna fight or make them look like fools.then you got shows like family guy,which i love,is so stereotypical and racist.im tired of it.

@Sydney – Whats good ? Good weather down here finally

@My2Cents – Yes the African Diaspora does refer to the movement of all africans and their dispersement around the world , and of course what was responsible for the majority of the movement of africans across the world..the slave trade

So now i like him even more, not bad looking and speaking a whole heap of sense.

@Sydney:

I know!!! I like Michael Steele. Maybe in my next life, we could be husband and wife! However, I’m not too fond of the Republican Party. Most assume that I am a Republican due to my nickname (actually it’s the first letter of my last name, and I have had this nickname since I was about three). They have many issues they need to resolve and they just can’t get over the fact that they got beat by a superior campaign. However, I HATE the democratic party even more than I hate the Republicans. I held my nose this year and voted GREEN.

@Passenger57…yes, Black Millionaires have become complacent to the struggles of their people and now live in this fantasy world… they shut their mouths and eyes to the injustices of their environment, and hope the white man or “massa” will throw them a bone. Of course, they will be portrayed as a pic-a-nen-ny, a thug, or slut….and the cycle continues….Will we ever get that there REALLY is a conspiracy???

@My2Cents

You bring up a great point about FOL. I here black people say things like “if black people didn’t watch that crap, it would get cancelled”.

That couldn’t be further from the truth. Black people do not make up enough of the viewership to affectwhether a show gets cancelled. The only way black people could get a show taken off the air would be if we organized to get the advertisers to pull their money. But that takes discipline (NOT USING CERTAIN PRODUCTS/COMPANIES) and organization – both of which black people seem to lack.

So we can not watch all the crap but it is still funded and as long as it is funded it will continue. If Tyler Perry’s shows didn’t bring in millions of dollars in ads from “black-friendly” companies, those minstrel shows would get cancelled. But since Toyota, Southwest, Tide, Kellog’s etc give money to the network, the show stays on. It’s always going to be about profitability, not just ratings. 30 Rock gets terrible ratings but it is still profitable for NBC to keep on. It gets great reviews and generates a lot of press. That’s $$$ for NBC.

So black people have to get away from the “just don’t watch it and it will go away” meme. Same with the music. These record companies don’t make money off CD sales anymore. It’s about using the artist to get licensing deals, tours, endorsements, etc. So you can not buy all the T.I. cd’s you want, but companies are still offering him and his label money to pimp shit out.

Always follow the money trail, it’ll lead you to the truth.

Speaking of black millionaires, does anyone abhor Bob Johnson as much as I do?

@Dubya

” I like Michael Steele. Maybe in my next life, we could be husband and wife!”

LOL! This is a very interesting development — a black Democratic president and a black chair of the RNC. I wonder how this leadership shift will affect the Republican party as it tries to strengthen its brand and rebound in 2012.

That’s funny about your SN — Yes, I definitely thought you were a hardcore Right-Winger, lol.

My girls and I were just saying that we thought the network ,or whoever decides the time and day shows air, want to see “The Game” fail. Wht in the world would they have it come on on a fRiday night. The people who are most likely going to watch it are going out and are not home on Friday nights. I love that show so it really pisses me off!!!

@Sydney – Do you think that there is going to be any shift in ideology for the Republican party ? , Saltzman was likely front runner until his Barrack the Magic Negro debacle. It appears that Steele at least to me , seems like convenient way for them to save face as there was more issues arising from Saltzmans other songs there about latinos and others

Sydney

Speaking of black millionaires, does anyone abhor Bob Johnson as much as I do?

@Dubya

” I like Michael Steele. Maybe in my next life, we could be husband and wife!”

LOL! This is a very interesting development — a black Democratic president and a black chair of the RNC. I wonder how this leadership shift will affect the Republican party as it tries to strengthen its brand and rebound in 2012.

That’s funny about your SN — Yes, I definitely thought you were a hardcore Right-Winger, lol.
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Ugh…! Not at all, but I’m open-minded and am open to constructive logic regardless of who/where it comes from. I’m just really, really, really disappointed with the democratic party. Especially, this election season. Don’t like Obama, Hated his supporters, and hated the way they vilified Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber and Tavis Smiley, and Hillary Clinton–or anyone who held opinions contrary to Obama. It was just absolutely sickening and killed any happiness that I had in electing our first Biracial president.

Im young, but Im glad I got to see alot of shows that featured black actors!…. but we can’t complain about the lack of black ppl on tv, because like he said, the viewers aren’t fighting for these shows….. He knows what he’s talkin about!…… and those reality shows are getting out of hand…

@Txhustla

Oh, I definitely believe that there are ulterior motives in the selection of Steele — The GOP is woefully lacking in diversity among its rank and its membership. They need to reach out to people of color and other groups in order to remain relevant, IMHO.

@Dubya

How was Sarah Palin vilified? Ms. “Obama pals around with terrorists?”

And last I heard, Joe the Plumber has embarked on some sort of foreign journalist stint. He’s not hurting by any means, lol.

Tavis Smiley is a pain in the arse, I’m sorry.

@Sydney
The republican party needs to aim for 2010 first, then focus on 2012. I do think that a common misconception about the Republican Party is that they are “racist”. Yes, there are racists in the Republican Party but I’d say just about as many (or maybe even less) than the racists in the democratic party.

If the candidate for 2012 is Jindal or Palin, I’ll vote Republican, easily. I actually really liked Palin and felt that she was dealt a huge steaming plate of wrongness during this past election season.

We have several Black stations. Write your cable or satellite provider to add TVOne, BET Jazz, Black News and VH1 Soul to your lineup as well as BET.

Scripted Black shows are disappearing because scripted network television is disappearing. It’s all going to semi-integrated reality TV. That’s just the modern situation. Scripted shows cost too much for the meager ratings they bring.

The dark-skinned brother who works on the floor at ‘The Office’ is one of the funniest dudes on television. He doesn’t even have to say anything. Just his perpetually bored expression with everything and everyone around him makes me laugh all the time I see him.

@Sydney

Lots of her comments were skewed, taken out of context, or were made up. Fact Check, never corrected many of the lies and the media just allowed it to stand as is and even reported these false statements as facts.

I was also just disappointed with the media for not holding Obama more accountable. They seemed to carry his water and did not dig into his past like they did Palin.

What Joe the Plumber is doing now has NOTHING to do with how they vilified him for simply asking a question.

@Dubya

Well, I do agree that there are indeed racists in the Democratic party as well. And I don’t think Obama received the support he should have from his party earlier in the campaign.

I’m sorry, but I can’t get on the Palin bandwagon, for a plethora of reasons.

Hi Awwww

gotta go to the library..some of us have to STUDY. I’m not naturally smart so I have to work extra hard!!!

goodnight everyone!

Dubya, Joe the Plumber was an opportunist — one who has extended his 15 minutes considerably. He even slammed McCain after the election.

Obama may have received a considerable amount of good press, but there were many obstacles he had to overcome along the way.

I don’t think Palin’s comments were taken out of context — I think she came across as woefully unprepared for the vp slot because, well, she was woefully unprepared. Her interview with Katie was an unmitigated disaster.

Good night, Dubya!

@Sydney – Its nice thought though , but sincerely doubt any outreach is going to help them as their “brand” is more than severely damaged not even with minorities but among their own – conservatives/social conservatives/palinites/the rushites

Ill agree all day about Palin – she is idiot ..pure and simple. Bobby Jindal while I dont agree with his politics has a masters degree and a Rhodes Scholar , Palin had issues getting a basic undergrad for journalism across 8-9 years and its obviously apparent that she should not hold public office and she is not articule..someone said Joe the Plumber..SMH

lol articulate haha thats what get for watching sportscenter and typing at same time..

Good night, Dubya! Have a great weekend.

@Txhustla

I think Bobby Jindal is one to watch — He has the brains and crossover appeal to become a prominent voice in the GOP, IMHO.

Speaking of Rush, I wonder what he thinks of the Steele selection? lol

I can’t stand him. Ugh.

True indeed. I hope they do not cancel The Game…..Obama backlash. Watch out for it in your offices and places of work too. Do your job and do it well. Good is not enough.

with a name like Hosea Chanchez he’s defaintly not black but I do agree with him..

@Sydney- lol I wonder too if it meets his “approval” for his followers , I would doubt it. Its just like one brother that showed up at the McCain rally looked
that looked like a speck of pepper in a mayo sandwich

@ the real 100% trill

You know that was a dumb-ass comment, right? Whoopi GOLDBERG isn’t Jewish – but yet she has a Jewish last name!

If homeboy deems HIMSELF to be black – than how you gonna just come out and say “he’s defAINTLY(?) not black?”

@ Sydney
@ Txhustla15

What it do – y’all?

I got canned today from that WGN job I got two (2) weeks ago.

I HAD to show my ass – OH YES I DID.

Check this – I got a call from this JEAN MAYE chick over at WPIX Channel 11 because basically after EA left WGN when her boss was let go they needed another EA ASAP. Hence I get this call from this woman.

She offered me the job and I took it – starting the very next day. Only after I started – I FIND OUT THE STATION HAD FILED CHAPTER 11!

I’m like okayyyy – what does THAT mean. Basically – it meant my working WITHOUT knowing exactly they’d be able to pay me. Being that I came in the “back door” so to speak – and not through an EMPLOYMENT AGENCY – I was considered “vendor” and could get paid ONLY after my pay was reviewed by these AUDITORS!

Needless to say – it was an amicable decision. I hate SNEAKY, CONIVING people. Why bring me in on some Chapter 11 bullshit? I think maybe she thought I was desperate for a job? NOT HARDLY – although this money WILL come in handy – I’m still the shit at Amex and will be back there within a matter of weeks!

My thing is – WHY? Granted I should have RESEARCHED this WGN Cable Station – which is only on DIRECTV – who the hell would willingly work for a company that recently filed Chapter 11?

I feel SO used by this Jean Maye chick – but God has a plan for me.

Hence – I ain’t even stressed!

What does all this have to do with this post? LOL Let’s just say I understand FULLY where Malik is coming from!

@MissBlaze

“I got canned today from that WGN job I got two (2) weeks ago.

I HAD to show my ass – OH YES I DID.”

Oh my! Girl, are you OK??

Girl, did you just put the woman on full blast?

LMAO!

I’m going to Google her, lol!

MissBlaze, is that station owned by the Tribune Co.?

@MissBlaze44 – Whats good , lord sorry to hear that. Whats going on with WGN are they currently going under like everyone else these days. Yeah you I swear you have to watch everything currently, Ive been watching MSNBC non stop to make sure my company’s business is good

@ Sydney

Yeah, you’ll see that she’s “one of those” sistah’s that’s down with the HUMAN RESOURCES such n’ such FOUNDATIONS of New York – WHATEVA! She needs to learn how to come correct when hiring people and trying to get over.

Of course I understand her NOT wanting to use an Agency in order to get another EA – in essence she WAS trying to do me a favor – or at least SHE thought she was – but it backfired because of this Chapter 11 filing.

Plus – nobody even knew I was starting – UNTIL THE DAY I ACTUALLY STARTED.

I wish them luck because the girl who was there practically ran the entire office. The people whom she supported DIDN’T EVEN KNOW WHAT SHE DID! Her own bosses were clueless!

Like, I can’t. Thank you – but no thank you!

@ Sydney

Yes, they are. Why what else have you found about about them? For the most part – half the office was EMPTY – lots of empty cubes,empty offices. The whole experience was very strange, to say the least.

@MissBlaze

Is this WGN TV-9? If so, yeah, it’s part of the Tribune Co., which filed for bankruptcy. The media industry is going through a lot of turmoil now, and a lot of jobs may be in jeopardy.

I found this on chicagotribune.com, MissBlaze:

A month into its Chapter 11 bankruptcy case, Chicago-based Tribune Co. is beginning to form a strategy for holding the company’s major assets together, not tearing them apart, sources close to the situation said.

But shaping up to be a central challenge is how to restructure the media conglomerate’s $13 billion in debt while preserving its complex, tax-advantaged employee-ownership structure.

Though Tribune Co. executives remain in the early days of building a plan of reorganization, sources said Chairman Sam Zell’s team is operating on the assumption that Tribune Co. assets like the Chicago Tribune, Los Angeles Times and WGN TV-9 are probably worth more held together than they would be chopped up and sold at distressed prices. An exception is the Chicago Cubs baseball team, which is in the late stages of being sold, with a winning bidder expected to be named as soon as this week.

@ TxHustla15

I know that’s right! You can have a job today and go in tomorrow under a Chapter 11 filing. I don’t know how those things work – as this is the first time I’ve experienced it – but it’s just not cool to bring people on when YOU are supposed to be the DIRECTOR OF HR and you don’t know how these things work?

Oh, well. You live n’ learn!

@MissBlaze

So she never mentioned the bankruptcy? How did you find out?

I’m so sorry that happened to you.

I, personally, would not be sad if The Game is pulled off the air. While Hosea is crying out for activism, the few days I worked on the show as a background artist I was treated like absolute crap. In fact, of all the shows I’d ever worked on, they treated me the worst. I asked to never be sent back to that show. I believe in karma, therefore, I believe the demise of The Game may lie in the way its actors and production team treat those around them. As a black woman, I was totally disgusted to have been treated with such disregard because I was not one of the “stars”. I can guarantee background actors were not treated that way on The Cosby Show or A Different World!

black people need to stop complaining about what white people are doing to them, and actually make their own classy shows, reality shows. Make up your own stuff, dont worry about what they’re doing.
I don’t think the white people are doing anything wrong because it’s their stuff.
why don’t black people make some more networks (not just BET). Why can’t they make up their own stuff?

@ Sydney

That’s just Grreat! Yeah – you could tell by the old EA who was there the the place was really JUMPIN’ some years ago. She left behind a whole slew of pictures from yester-year. Guess she didn’t want the memories.

Anyway – the whole experience was just a big ol’ mess!

@ Rita

I raise my glass to you – girlfriend – no love lost for me either!

Aw, MissBlaze. . .

Want a laugh?

Check out this video — I found it earlier this week and it’s still cracking me up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMEDZnM_TZE

@ Sydney

Here’s how – and this is why I said this JEAN MAYE chick is sneaky and coniving – she sent her “spy” – THE RECEPTIONIST to take me out to lunch on my first day of work.

SHE was the one who told me. When I asked her what it meant, she said, “oh, it just meant a couple of people had to get let go, that’s all. It’s no big deal.”

Yeah – until it was time for my ass to get paid.

@MissBlaze

Oh wow. . .and then they eventually disclosed how this would affect your pay?

This kind of stuff is why I respect Hosea as a man. He isn’t afraid to tell it like it is.

@ Sydney

Wow – LOL that took me wayyyy back! LOL!

You know I meant CONNIVING!!!

LOL @ MissBlaze

They were gettin’ it, weren’t they? LOL!

It’s time for the percolator. . .It’s time for the percolator. . .

You should treat yourself to a relaxing evening with your beverage of choice, MissBlaze. You deserve it!

@ PURPPLE, LOOK HERE SUGAR IM DONE WITH ALL THE NAME CALLING FOR NOW I GUESS YOU PRACTICE AT NOT BEING WACK TODAY GOOD JOB HUN I MUST STAY ON YOUR MINE HUH?, I DONT WANT TO FIGHT WITH YOU…..I HAD THE BEST SEX IN LIFE FOR A LONG TIME, NICE, TIGHT, AND WETT!!! IT MADE MY TOES CURL!!!! MMMM SO IM READY TO DIG YOUR GUTZ OUT NOW HOLLLAAAAAAAAA!!!!

@ Sydney

Yeah – they had to. Payroll and all that is based out of CHICAGO. When I called them yesterday to ensure that my money would be deposited in my bank today – that’s when they gave me the ol’ heev-ho – and that’s when I got to showin my ASS!

I told them, how can you tell me this AFTER the fact? “Oh, but we’re sorry – we didn’t know!”

Nobody wants to hear that shit!

HEY SYD BOOGIE! YOU IN HERE REPPING HUH? GOOD JOB SWEETNESS ! I HAD A FAN/STALKER TURN INTO ME TODAY …WOW THEY MADE SOUND LIKE PUNK….ANY NAMES COME TO MIND WHEN TALKING AFRICA???…LIKE GAY DRE!!!

@MissBlaze

Girl, I’ve never heard a story like that — It’s good that you have something to fall back on in the meantime. That’s awful.

@Glok

Hey there Someone impersonated you today?

@ Sydney

I know that’s right, and I’m sippin’ on it as I type!

YES SYD SEE YOU BEEN IN HERE DROPPING SCIENCE BUTT BOY DRE SEEN I WASNT ON AND ASSUMED THE POSITION LIKE ALWAYZ AND WENT ALL OUT TODAY HE HAD SO MUCH FUN…LOL! BEING ANOTHER MAN HOW GAY IS THAT EVEN FOR A BLOG …IT JUST MAKES THINK IM NOT DOING THAT BAD ON HERE WHEN OTHER GROWN MEN WANT TO BE YOU.. YOU KNOW HOW THAT FEEL RIGHT BECAUSE HE WAS YOU YESTERDAY….DRE JUST COME OUT!!! LOTZ OF FAGZ HAVE!!!

He makes some solid points. The imbalance in films and t.v. when it comes to Black shows and films are thin and unimportant. Blacks and our buying power has always been good if not great, but our production skills and abilities to join forces has always been distant. From the “Race Films” in the silent film era to the reality Black t.v. shows of today, our standards has always been to push someone else’s views of gaining acceptance from mainstream. When I say mainstream, I am not talking Black’s approval. Even when you break it down and balance in the t.v. shows that are so-called “realism” such as “The Wire”, you will see two White men behind it. I always contemplated the situation if two Black men were the creators of, “The Wire”, would it have had a huge appeal, and the same goes for Steven Spielberg, “The Color Purple”. I am not saying that, “The Wire” or “The Color Purple” were a bad show or film, but when you look at the overall impact, how did it help Black t.v. or film, financially or artistically?

Hosea angles are very profound to say the least. Yet, it will take a long time for Blacks to catch up in t.v. and film. I mean catch up in the sense of being able to have a choice of a Black show(s) to select from, positive, urban, classical, not so positive, comedy, e.t.c, instead of being fed what is in for our community.

Our race has always started trends in film and t.v. and even music. Right now, the whole Black reality show is a trend, and it is sad. I am not one to knock anybody efforts on gaining income to feed their family, but when we have so many gifted and talented writers, producers, directors, filmmakers, actors and actresses, one has to admit that time is not on our side.

Have a great weekend.

http://www.myspace.com/calmthesis

@MissBlaze
@Glok

If you’re still here, here’s another vid for you. Enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti_Xq5lK8I4&feature=related

I loved this interview. It was right on time. I just wish we could have spoken up before they took off One on One, All of us, and Girlfriends. They were all good quality shows and I was thinking of writing to the CW Network to let them know. How they going to have like 20 White people shows but only 2 black people shows. What type of Nonsense!!! Its so aggravating to see our shows get kicked off while they have these other shows that are not even worth turning on. Disgusted. Truly disgusted. We need to write to the networks..

When i was a boy,my grand dad served in Italy.(Army)
He told me that the Men taught their women and children that black men had tails. This was to keep the object of desire away from the black male.

Today Media is power!
IF all you see are beautiful white women and powerful white men,you tend to think that this is the norm.(When you see white man with big houses,you tend to think that they are better than you are,when in fact,they come from generations of old white money,not there intellect.)

Today’s media isn’t pro black.

Why would they be? Should they be?

Isn’t it OUR responsibility ?

We have the power to have our own?

Why don’t we have an NBA?…Shouldn’t we own our own?

Get my drift?

If we build it,they will come!

think

Myabe it’s the fact that this show just isn’t funny and every “black” show that was on that network started to look and sound exactly the same after a while. One smart girl and one sassy “oh no you didn’t” girl. The Parkers, Girlfriends, One On One, Eve, The Game, all could have been the same exact show because they all had the same exact characters, settings and stories. And something was always looming in the back of all of them, the ghetto. The Cosby’s didn’t glorify the ghetto but they glorified the African American culture which is what more writers need to do.Not all blacks live in the ghetto and talk with slang. The same for A Different World and Fresh Prince Of Bel Air. They showed differet facets to the African American communtiy. Thats the main problem with the shows today that are on television. (The Game) Even if the characters are successful they always have that “oh no you didn’t” mentalility that has tainted black television for the past 10 years. rarely do you see that they obtained their success through education and hard work. But that they aquired it through sports or entertainment. I’ll give Girlfriends credit where credit it due. The fact that two out of four of the girls were educated and had jobs was a definite plus.

What hollywood needs to do is realize that minorites (yes minorities, not just black people but Hispanics, Asians, Middle Easterns, Native Americans, ect.) are not the stereotypes they get a rise out of. But that they are just as educated and have just as much diversity and just maybe, even more talent than a cast of non minorities. A cast like maybe……………Gossip Girl.

I respect this guy for speaking his mind. But he is apart of the problem more than he is the solution to me. The Game, has always seemed like nothing more than a dressed up bafoonery act to me. More of the same material, not breaking any new ground what so ever. It’s not as ridiculous as Tyler Perry’s work but given time it will get there. And if he’s so scared of losing his job, then maybe it wasn’t such a wise idea of him or his publicist to speak out against the show and network that employs him since it seems like they are on such rocky ground. But then like he pointed out, no one will ever know theres a problem if no one ever says something.

@ Gia

He didn’t say that HE was scared of losing his job. He said that a lot of blacks are scared to speak out,because of it.

I disagree with some of what you said.
We as blacks DO have a choice of what we watch. It looks as thought blacks didn’t want theCosby’s. They wanted that ‘Ghetto’ type show…i.e.~ KEEPING IT REAL’smh!!

The writers write shows that they think , the black public want to see. LOOK AT RAP! IT SUCKS! EVER HEAR THE LYRICS!

Why do we think that black people want anything different than what rap has done?

think

@ Sydney

I’m watching this wierd movie and waiting for my grandson to come over.

I’ll holla

PEACE!

BLACKS WANT THE GHETTO TYPE LIFESTYLE,EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY THEY DON’T

think

Gia, you make some valid and important points; however, when you look at the branches of minorities that you mentioned, Hispanics, Asians, and Middle Easterns, they have all had their own movements in t.v. and film. With the exception of Native Americans, Blacks, world wide, from African cinema to Black American cinema, the balance of equality and proper representation with producers, writers, directors and filmmakers are far and away. Bollywood cinema and t.v. are a thriving market in India. Latino’s, Middle Eastern nations and Asia have a market within, when it comes to t.v. and film that does not need an American dollar to be successful. Black America has always been trying to fit properly, artistically and business wise into a system that used black-face, chicken and watermelons to represent our “culture”.

The whole history of Black cinema and t.v. has not changed much since they had us doing, “Yes surr ree” roles in films from the Golden Age of Cinema despite the battles that Oscar Micheaux suffered while trying to form a Black culture in filmmaking.

There are not a lot of Black producers, writers and directors who have pull in Hollywood or in mainstream t.v., and that alone is a sign that our voices are often ignored, but mimicked.

http://www.myspace.com/calmthesis.

@ Gia

WAIT! – Don’t know if you remember 413 HOPE STREET w/ Richard Roundtree – but THAT show was really – REALLY good and they just cancelled it in mid-season!

Now, the show as you so eloquently put it was set in the Ghetto and the Suburbs and focused on one Richard Roundtree’s character trying to help this one kid who killed Richard Roundtree’s son – if I’m not mistaken.

This was a good QUALITY show that could have helped in changing a person’s life. Who think that they have absolutely no where else to go, but down.

I – along with SO many other viewers were hight pissed when they took that show off the air.

Ice Cube said it best: THE HOOD IS WHERE I’M FROM – BUT IT IS NOT WHAT I AM!

We can have show’s that depict the hood without it always having to be hoodish.

Visual Soul, I like how you pointed out the fact that all those different racial groups have their own backing and support from within their own communties. But how many Asians and Hispanics, do you see on CBS, ABC, NBC, CW or Fox? No a better question, how many Native Americans do you see on those channels or any channels for that matter? I mean, it’s great that they have their own “movements” within in their own country’s. But what about those various groups that live in the US. Where are they represented in the MAINSTREAM? The fact still stands that although the African American communities representation or misrepresentation over the past 10 years has been ridiculous and offensive at times, they HAVE been able to make more prominent strides in the mainstream than that of Asian and Middle Easterns. Hispanics are having their up swing with shows such as Ugly Betty.

And that brings me to my next point, one of the reasons Ugly Betty has the backing of a major network like ABC, is because the show has the backing of a major Hispanic actress, Selma Hyack. She has the clout that can get a show like Ugly Betty with a Hispanic Female lead and an African American Female supporting character on the airwaves of a network like ABC, and pull in viewers. If someone like Halle Berry or Beyonce were to back an African American sitcom with class, I don’t think their would be many networks that would turn it down. And yes I know All Of Us was backed by Will Smith and you don’t get any bigger than him. But honestly they had that show on the wrong network.

African Americans have more power than they think in my opinion. Yes they have to fight for it, but done the right way and with the right material their can easily be an African American sitcom with class on the airwaves. You can’t just say that white people don’t know what to do with blacks on television. I mean, it wasn’t just blacks that put a black man in the white house. If their ready for a black man with class to be in the white house than their more than ready, again, for a black man with class to be on their television.

Another problem I feel is with the African American community it’s self. When we have to many shows that seem to glorify the ghetto ( anything that was on UPN), you have people like myself who say it’s demeaning to the African American community. Then when you have shows that display African Americans in regular life and speaking with propper english ( My Wife and Kids). Then you have some that say, they can’t identify with the show or characters and that they are acting white. So what happens? People stop watching, ratings start slipping and the show gets canceled. Next thing you know you have people saying why aren’t there any black people on television? Because we’re not watching them or giving them the support they need. Yes, it may seem like I’m contridicting myself a bit here. But what I’m trying to point out is that if their could be a show with a balance but has great material, and could possibly represent African Americans in a way other than a “Oh no You didn’t” attitude I think the entire African American community could get behind it.

MizzBlaze44, I agree with what you posted at the end. I don’t remember that show though? What network was it on? Do you remember?

Well, we have TYLER PERRY whose built HIS OWN studio. Not saying that he’ll ONLY make those Madea shows – but yeah – I’m sure he’ll probably be willing to listen / read scrips where African American’s are seen without the “Oh no You didn’t” attitudes.

Like Malik said – we might not all agree w/ Tyler Perry’s shows / movies – but he’s one hell of a business man!

Yes, he is one hell of a business man. Even if his business is built off of “bafoonery”. But I guess that’s what it takes something like a “Meet the Browns” to bust down the doors in order for real artist to have a chance.

I love the game. It is my favorite show. If I miss it I watch it online.

Malik was right that all of the black shows in sydication are gone. I was mad when girlfriends got cancelled with no finale. How the Hell after nine season on air they just take them off with no goodbye?

Everyone is watching reality trash. Miss NewYork, Flava flav, Chance and Real, Rock of Love and Real world are the epitome of classless behavior in front of millions of viewers. Drunkeness, one night stands seem to be the normal for these kind of shows. There not looking for love. They just want air time, and jumpoff sex.

Yes, I’ll give him his respect for his achievement in being the first black man to have his own studio. But Tyler Perry’s work will never have the quality Bill Cosby’s had and for that he will not be remembered the same way Bill will. He won’t be remembered for bettering black entertainment as much as exploiting it. If glory is the only objective, then where does substance come in to play?

Gia, my line of reasoning was centered on the success of other nationalities in their own countries. Even though some did make a successful crossover in American t.v. and cinema, these countries are still in business with their own t.v. and films.

Black America has no backbone to fall back on in t.v. or cinema. If a Black actor, filmmaker, writer or producer does not make it here in America, where does he or she goes? Black America has no sub-culture in t.v. or cinema. Even, if we go back to Africa, and try to make a t.v. show, our chances are just as slim, mainly, because Africa t.v. and film are controlled or influenced by the French, the Dutch or the English.

Jet Li and Jackie Chan was very wealthy before they started their crossover into American t.v. and film. If Bill Cosby would not have made a huge success in America, where would he had made his impact with the Cosby show? The same goes for Will Smith. I am not saying that there is no Black stars, but when you look deep into the game, is Will the new Sidney Poitier, Spike Lee the pick-up guy from Oscar Micheaux and Ousmane Sembene? We are still doing 1 or two stars at a time, and we are still not sitting in the executive producers chair or the head writer’s chair.

You see, to direct or to write a film or t.v. show is a very powerful aspect of creativity, and I do not think that the powers in American t.v. and film are ready to hand over or share a very large business.

Yes, Tyler Perry is a very successful man, money wise, but I think that the industry is not really concerned at a man who dresses like a lady and make people laugh. He is not directly educating his audiences, or starting a movement like the French New Wave. The people in Hollywood are betting people and they are putting their money on Tyler as being a fad, just like, the Flavor of Love and any other Black show that made us laugh at ourselves.

http://www.myspace.com/calmthesis

When someone write’s a story / movie / play of substance in which Tyler Perry can produce. Those same people of “substance” that you mention have also praised Tyler Perry for his achievements: Will Smith, Oprah Winfrey, Cecelia Tyson, Ruby Dee – these people and many more prominent actors and actresses were at his opening.

They already know that he’s opened another door – another avenue in which movies of Quality can be made. You’ll see – because of Tyler Perry we now have that opportunity and that chance to pick up where Tyler Perry hasn’t even gone yet.

Visual Soul. I agree with half of your post.:)

Yes Black American film makers like Spike Lee and John Singleton don’t have the resources that film makers like Ang Lee and Ronny Yu have. But the blame just doesn’t lie with white America. It falls on Black America also. If African Americans want to see more African American directed films than we need to go out support them. The only thing that really talks in hollywood is money, not scripts. If a film is a hit then they will rush to crank out more films like it, if it flops they won’t touch it with a 10 ft. pole. The African American community needs to support their film makers, not just the comedic film makers(Tyler Perry) but also the ones with substance (Spike Lee). I still don’t get how a film like Miracle at St. Anna or Cadillac Records doesn’t get as nearly as much support as Madea’s Family Reunion or The Family That Preys.

As for Jackie Chan and Jet Li, their only form of entertainment is martial arts. You will rarely if ever see them in a romantic lead in America if their not fighting someone right after, which is another stereotype that Asian actors have to face just like the ghetto stereotype African American actors have to face.

And Bill Cosby had a very lucrative and successful career as a comedian before he made the Cosby Show. As for Will Smith being the new Sidney Poitier, that title belongs to Mr. Denzel Washington. Will Smith is in a class all his own. Their isn’t another star like Will Smith right now white or black. He is the biggest Film star in the world that happens to be African American. He is the first of his kind.

But the comments you made about Tyler Perry I more than agree with.

Miss Blaze, I respect your positive insight. Yet, what Tyler Perry has done or trying to do, Oscar Micheaux was trying to do back in the 1920′s and 30′s, and he met racism head on. Even when you look back at Charles Burnett films in the 70′s, which were counter-films against Blaxploitation, he feel on deaf-ears and non-support from the Black community. It took white critics to praise, “Killer of Sheep”.

Therefore, my comparison of Tyler Perry to more Artistic filmmakers and writers is not one to look down on him, but moreso to display the approach or approaches that have already been taken. I mean, Oprah owns a studio, and how has Black films or t.v. gained more power? So, I wish Tyler Perry the best, but it will take a lot more intellectual filmmakers, mainstream filmmakers, indy filmmakers, urban filmmakers, e.t.c. and all other sort of filmmakers and producers who are all Black to write, produce and direct films. It cannot be just a wind of hope that are beneath Tyler Perry’s wings of filmmaking, writing and producing.

http://www.myspace.com/calmthesis.

MissBlaze44, I agree with what you pointed out there.

Visual Soul & Gia

I think we all agree on “more writers / producers / directors making film with more substance. Years ago I used to be a member of THE BLACK FILMMAKER FOUNDATION. Don’t know what happened to them or if they’re even still around – but I learned a lot from them.

At that time (early – mid 90′s) it was all about the rappers; Snoop, Dr. Dre – if you could get one or more of them – then you were automatically GUARANTEED distribution. Now those times have changed.

Back then, COLUMBIA PICTURES

Yes, that we can agree on MissBlaze44. I’m in film school at the moment so this topic really sparked a fire in me to post something. Usually I just read the blog.

MissBlaze44

You do know that AMEX posted a 79% drop in their 4th quarter earnings, don’t you. Economically, things are getting pretty ominous. Good Luck though.

@ Marquis

Yeah – that’s old news though – they’ll get it right back together, soon.

@ Gia & Visual Soul

Sorry… I was saying, COLUMBIA PICTURES was handing out deal left n’ right back then. ROBERT RODRIGUEZ – EL MARIACHI – I forget the girls name who did I LIKE IT LIKE THAT. Those movies were good and Robert IS the man – but it seems more so since teaming up with QUENTIN TARINTINO (sp?).

@ Marqui de sade

Ken Chenault is just being prudish – then again – with so many people out of work people aren’t paying their Amex Bill on a regular basis like they used to.

@ Gia

Good luck in film school – if you ever get a chance, read ROBERT RODRIGUEZ’ book HOW TO MAKE A MOVIE FOR UNDER $70,000 (or some such title like it). Very informative – and he goes on to tell you how he got that deal with COLUMBIA PICTURES.

Yes, I remember those films. I mean granted I was about 5 or 6 when El Mariachi came out and fell in love with Antonio Banderes when he took over the role in Desperado. And I think you mean Lisette Linares, I remember her from New York Undercover.

@ Gia

Yes – that’s her. Sorry – I get caught up and forget my own age sometimes. But yeah – I love me some Antonio Banderes, too.

I hope you make one of those Quality Films because I love a good story.

I don’t know if you can see this one, but my comments aren’t getting through.

Well, good night y’all. Tomorrow’s another day – I’m tired.

okay nevermind

I’m tired too, goodnight:)

What about the fact that Grey’s Anatomy is written by a black women???

Personally, I don’t watch the black shows because most are ridiculous stupid. If they were made better than I might watch.

I see black specifically black males on TV every nigh.Unfortunatly it is on shows where we are getting killed, acting a fool, or getting locked up like:

The first 48 (this has several black male stars unfortunatly it is becaues they have been murdered or murdered someone.)

I love ny, Flavor of love, etc

Lock up, jail, (reality shows that show us over crowding the jails and prisons for killing each other selling drugs, fighting cops and acting a fool)

[...] more fearful of not returning this year. There are no more fish in the water that look like me. Bossip.com Archive *Exclusive* Malik: America Doesn’t Know What to Do With Blacks on TV __________________ [...]

One of the biggest problems with tv is typecasting. We as black people have a hard time accepting visions of urselves that are outside of our common everyday experience. You will never see a movie about black people skiing. That shit just ain’t going to happen although I know blacks who ski. You will never see a movie about an average american black family where the parents are happy and the kids are having thier own non ghetto adventures. You will never see that shit. I am talking about some American Pie shit. You will never see a predominately black cast in a movie about exploring space or under the sea or climbing a mountain. Even though we have had blacks achieve in those areas, It is not an acceptable portrayal to the average black person. We talk all of this shit about there not being enough blacks on television, but the fault lies with the consumer. Yes I am talking about black people. For some reason though any Tyler Perry movie or a movie about rapping, drugs, money, hoes and clothes, the skating rink, or dancing resonates with us. Are black people totally into buffoonery? I am getting tired of blaming shit on whitey! As for me personally, I hardly watch television and it is rare tht I enjoy a movie for the reasons that I mentioned above. Anyway, I am going to start a new post called ten things you will never see in a black movie. Peace.

Please help me out with this one…Please read my earlier post to know what I am talking about.

Ten Things you will never see a black movie about…

1)Skiing

2)Rock Climbing

3)

4)

5)

6)

7)

8)

9)

10)

Serena won the Australian Open! Woo hoo

MELBOURNE, Australia (AP) — Serena Williams routed Dinara Safina 6-0, 6-3 Saturday to win the Australian Open for her 10th Grand Slam title and a return to the No. 1 ranking.

It was total domination for second-seeded Williams, who looked at ease in winning back-to-back Grand Slam titles and was moving fluidly on the court.

@mrhaslam

“Please help me out with this one…Please read my earlier post to know what I am talking about.”

Let’s see — I think I have a few suggestions. . .

Ten Things you will never see a black movie about…

1)Skiing

2)Rock Climbing

3)Scuba Diving

4)Ice Skating

5) Playing polo/rugby

6) Attending a wine tasting

7) Listening to/playing classical music (Samuel L. Jackson did play a composer/pianist in Kasi Lemmons’ film, The Caveman’s Valentine)

8)

9)

10)

It’s not only television – internet, magazines, newspapers, Major MEDIA period!
Just pay attention. It’s everywhere and it’s deliberate!! And WE, Black people, are NOT standing up. What they have is White, homosexual, Bullsh! being blasted everywhere.

Although Hosea Chanchez makes SUPERB points with talking about the misrepresentation on quality black television, I must say that HIS VERY OWN SHOW, The Game, is a show thats taken a TRASHY downward spiral!

As one of the other posters stated, Derwin and Melondy used to have sense! Now we gotta watching them acting a STONE COLD fool, sleeping around with people! Etc.. Using foul language on a network station?!?? Come on! Hell THE GAME needs to be on HBO or either 3am!
Then lets not get on the image they have Wendy Raquel Robinson playing! She’s ghetto, raunchy and rediculous! Its just sad!

So while he wants to talk about reality shows, etc. Hell his show dipicts black folks as being “OUT THERE”. But thats variety right?? That show DOESNT NEED to be on network Tv with the current content it has on the show!

Im just saying.

Man I didnot geive this show credit but I DVR it and LAUGH my ass off.

TV does need to get it together and ENOUGHwith all these wack ass reality shows!!!

I had no idea how smart that brother is and I’ve been concerned with the coonery on television for years! I don’t know where all the other concened black folks are, but that brother is right. I’m going to write a lengthy letter to each damn head of a studio. It’s crazy!!! Think of all the talented blacks who can’t get work because of their integrity!!! Jeffrey Wright, Michael Wright, Wesley Snipes, Angela Bassett just got a gig and her husband Courtney too. Ne’bushe Wright!!! Remember her????

I personally don’t like Tyler Perrys type of humor, I do like The Game, and did like girfriends, all though I really am not a big TV buff. Shows like Law and Order do hire blacks in serious rolls, or maybe CSI, therfore we should concentrate on doing film in unison with white people instead of trying to just do our own shows. If we try to seperate they do seperate and they run Hollywood, so the answer is just logic. The show with Holly Robinson Peete comes to mind, where the black couple and the white couple interacted on a daily basis. We can then back door Hollywood, because once white people start watching the show and see us in a different light, it will bring better results.

>>>>>>>>> I agree with that comment
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Kigali said : Yeah I think you black folks are whining way too much. There are just as many trashy white shows as their are black shows. The problem is that you need to mitigate the perceptions of black folks in your public life not trying to manipulate television. Dont think you are going to cleanse TV of all the bad images of black when the reality of blacks doesnt change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree too!!!!

By the way, we dont see a lot of asian, indians etc… Minorities are just that : Minorites. There is no reason for us to be more apparent on TV than white when we only represent 13% of the USA! And we don’t have the financial strenght to create a black hollywood! so lets try to work with Hollywood without always insulting them cause they dont have to help us! Otherwise, tyler perry has his own studio, Oprah has loads of money, and had already supported some african american movies so lets just bank on that! but you cant expect the baffonery on TV to stop! And why as a black woman, should I feel ashamed of what New York or them flavor of love girls are doing! There are a lot of trashy white tv shows and i really dont think they feel concerned! they either watch it or they dont but i never heard anyone saying, oh this rock of love is degrading my race, wtf??? This is 2009,black and white are dating, working at the same offices,going to the same club wtc… so lets encourage the diversity first instead of perpertating the segregation! this is a better argument that just asking for a BLACK SHOW in my opinion!

I do agree. Myself as an actress have experienced the tug of war over parts. Black women in general are sometimes off the hook at an audition. I almost had to slap one heffa in the bathroom because she was being a rude bitch for no reason but didn’t because that just showed her insecurity in her ability to act. I don’t have that problem where I have to go into the place mad at bitches or act like i’m better than someone. Yes we are in competition but only in the audition room. I don’t have to compete with anyone out in the damn lobby. Its only because they don’t treat black women as they do white women. You have to go above and beyond, beyond, beyond to get it. But i see a lot of white people on sitcoms who really need to sit they asses down but any little thing we do we get big shit for it and there is also white people that are doing reality shows that are stupid, but no one is all in their face about. I do agree we need to rise from bullshit and be better men and women but there are white people that are doing the same stupid mess.

GOOD MORNING!

@ Sydney, why you up so early? I’m just now seeing your new Gravi – last night I was seeting Etta James – now this morning… a YOUNG Diana Ross is it?

Just this morning – reading the latest posts – ICE CUBE comes to mind.

He went from FRIDAY to ARE WE THERE YET? Clearly he’s changing his content of movies to make them FAMILY oriented. Which is a good move as he moves away from those movies glorifying Drugs, Mayhem, The Hood, etc.

He even said it, “I have children who are getting older – so I have to make movies that my kids can enjoy and relate to.”

Contrary what you all might think of Mr. Oshea Jackson – Ice Cube WAS NOT raised in the hood. His parents are BOTH college educated and hold good jobs. THAT’S the reason why he could drop jewels of knowledge and going to school and getting an education and not the the system DUMB YOU DOWN!

I have MUCH respect for Ice Cube and what he’s doing in the movie industry.

Hey MissBlaze!

LOL, I just happened to log on again — I had to run out this morning, so I was up early.

Yes, that’s an old photo of Diana Ross.

In regards to the subject of the thread, if I recall correctly, Nia Long shared that she would be making at least $4 million more per film if she were white, according to the PBS documentary by Henry Louis Gates, Jr. I mentioned yesterday. What a sad disparity.

First of all these actors only start to whine about black folk and the industry when their check involved. The show is boring but aight. I say turn off the tv and pick up a book.

Miss Blaze, I have a lot of respect for Ice Cube, but he was part of a trend of Black Filmmaking in Hollywood with the success of Boyz N the Hood, which kicked off the success of Menace II Society. So, though, Cube is running with the formula of Eddie Murphy’s success as in being “family safe”, he is a prime example of how Hollywood uses Black stories for huge profit margins and in the end, leave Black films abandoned.

In the 80′s, we did it with Spike Lee, and we carried him into the 90′s. There is always this “one Black filmmaker” that Hollywood places this huge amount of pressure on, and says, “Go make us commercial films about Blacks, but do not be too Black”.

I commend any Black filmmaker, producer or writer who hold onto success, even if I do not agree with their content or style. I am not going to add to the destruction of a Black film or filmmaker, because, I know how arduous the progress is for our films to be green-lit.

On another note, Robert Rodriguez is an excellent filmmaker, and he has figured out a way to cut costs in his films by building a studio in his hometown in Texas. He uses Hollywood, but still stays within the context of his own vision. As for kicking it with Quentin Tarantino, they sort of have this artistic bond, which goes to be free filmmakers without having to bend their own style. I think it is weird, because Rodriguez holds a sense of originality and Tarantino has been accused of all sorts of biting off of other films. Even he admits it, lol

I wish you great success in Film School, Gia.

Have a wonderful weekend, every body.

http://www.myspace.com/calmthesis.

P.S. Miss Blaze, are you talking about this Black Filmmaker’s Foundation:
http://www.surfview.com/seresbff.htm

I LOVE THE GAME…THE SHOW IS LIKE A DRAMA/COMEDY….I HAVE WATCHED IT SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE SHOW. THE ACTORS ARE ALL GREAT.

I AM NOW SETTING MY REMINDER FOR FRIDAY NIGHTS SO I WON’T MISSED THE SHOW.

I AGREE WITH EVEYTHING THAT HOSEA SAID IN THE ARTICLE.

IT’S LIKE THE REALITY SHOWS WITH BLACK PEOPLE ACTING LIKE FOOLS…HAVE BECOME THE THING TO WATCH.

BUT….THE REASON WHY IS DUE TO ALL OF THE IGNORANT ILLITERATE PANTS SAGGING DISRESPECTFUL TO WOMEN PLATINUM TEETH WEARING ON THE DOWN LOW RAPPERS.

PEOPLE DID NOT REALIZE WHAT AFFECT THAT RAPPERS ACTING LIKE BUFFOONS WOULD HAVE ON BLACK PEOPLE AS A WHOLE….THE RESULTS ARE….WHAT YOU SEE NOW…NO BLACK PEOPLE ON MAJOR TELEVISION NETWORKS.

BILL COSBY A MAN WHO HAS BEEN THERE…DID HIS THING ON MAIN STREAM TELEVISION FOR YEARS…HAD NOT ONLY BLACK PEOPLE WATCHING HIS SHOW BUT ALL PEOPLE WATCHING HIS SHOWS….BILL COSBY TRIED TO SPEAK OUT ABOUT THE IGNORANCE OF THE RAPPERS AND THEIR PORTRAYAL OF THEMSELVES DISRESPECTING WOMEN AND THE AFFECT IT HAS ON THE BLACK COMMUNITY…BUT…OF COURSE THE PEOPLE LISTENING TO RAP MUSIC….CAUGHT UP IN THAT IGNORANCE….FAIL TO HEAR WHAT BILL COSBY WAS SAYING….AND FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON’T KNOW…THE COSBY SHOW WAS NOT THE ONLY SHOW BILL COSBY HAD…PRIOR TO THE COSBY SHOW…BILL STARRED WITH ROBERT CULP IN I SPY…CHECK OUT IMDB FOR A LIST…A VERY LONG LIST OF BILL’S ACCOMPLISHMENTS ON TELEVISION.

MAIN STREAM TELEVISION…THINKS THAT RAPPERS AND HO’S ARE THE DEFINITION OF BLACK MEN AND BLACK WOMEN…..WHY….BECAUSE FOR SEVERAL YEARS….THAT’S WHAT THEY WERE TOLD TO BELIEVE….JUST ASK ANY RAPPER….AND ALL OF THEIR LISTENING AUDIENCE…WHICH WERE AND ARE HUGE.

IF YOU HAVE AN IGNORANT FOOL CALLING A WOMEN A HO…AND SAYING ALL TYPES OF IGNORANT SH-T…AND YET…THAT’S WHAT THE BLACK PEOPLE LIKE AND THAT’S WHAT THEIR LISTENING TO…AND THEY LOVE FLAVA FLAV AND MS. NEW YORK…WHICH ARE TWO SHOWS THAT I CALL IGNORANCE AT IT’S BEST….MAIN STREAM NETWORKS DON’T WANT THAT TRASH ON THEIR STATIONS…WHICH I CAN’T BLAME THEM…AND YET THEY FEEL THAT IF THE MAJORITY OF BLACK PEOPLE ARE LISTENING TO RAPPERS AND THEY LIKE THAT CRAP…THEY WILL NOT WANT TO SEE A SHOW SUCH AS THE GAME….OR ANY OTHER SHOW IN WHICH BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT ACTING LIKE IGNORANT ILLITERATE BUFFOONS.

HOSEA TALKS ABOUT PROTESTING OF NO BLACKS ON TELEVISION…PEOPLE PROTESTED ABOUT THE IGNORANT RAPPERS AND THEIR MUSIC…MICHAEL BAISDEN AND OTHERS TRIED WITH OUT SUCCESS TO PUT A STOP ON THE IGNORANT MUSIC AND HO CALLING MUSIC.

THE RAPPERS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PUT ON BLAST…WAY BACK WHEN….BUT IT DID NOT HAPPEN….SOME OF YOU MIGHT THINK THAT RAP MUSIC HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LACK OF BLACKS ON TELEVISION.

WELL LET ME TELL YOU THIS…HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A BREAKING NEWS STORY…ABOUT A CRIME…AND YOU ARE HOPING THAT THE PERSON THAT COMMITTED THE CRIME IS NOT BLACK?….AND YET WHEN THEY CAPTURE THE PERSON HE IS BLACK…AND YOU ARE SAYING TO YOURSELF NOT AGAIN…WELL YOU DID NOT DO THE CRIME…BUT YET YOU FEEL THAT IT AFFECTS YOU IN SOME WAY…BECAUSE THE PERSON WAS BLACK….WELL THAT’S THE KIND OF WORLD WE LIVE IN…WE DIDN’T DO THE CRIME….BUT FOR SOME REASON MAIN STREAM AMERICA ….HOLDS ALL OF US AS BLACK PEOPLE GUILTY FOR THE CRIME…THE SAME GOES TO RAP MUSIC….IF THE MAJORITY OF BLACK PEOPLE ARE INFACUTATED WITH THE IGNORANCE PORTRAYED IN RAP MUSIC…AND SHOWS SUCH AS MS. NEW YORK AND FLAVA FLAV HAVE DONE WELL IN THE RATINGS ON CABLE STATIONS….MAIN STREAM NETWORKS SUCH AS CBS, NBC AND ABC…DON’T WANT THAT TYPE OF TRASH ON THEIR STATIONS….AND THEY FEEL IF THERE IS A SHOW OF REAL SUBSTANCE WITH BLACK PEOPLE ON IT…IT WILL NOT DO WELL IN THE RATINGS…BECAUSE NONE OF THE RAP COMMUNITY WHICH REPRESENTS A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE….WILL NOT BE TUNNING IN.

SO MY QUESTION TO HOSEA…AND OTHERS IN THE ENTERTAIMENT WORLD…IF YOU WERE REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE LACK OF BLACKS ON TELEVISION….WHY DIDN’T YOU TELL YOUR PEERS IN THE RAP WORLD….TO STOP THE IGNORANCE…AND MAYBE WE COULD HAVE HAD MORE SHOWS ON TELEVISION.

THIS RAP GAME…HAS PROMOTED WOMEN AS HO’S…BECAUSE THE MEN….ARE AS GAY AS GAY CAN BE…..THEY WALK AROUND WITH PANTS SAGGING AND LOOKING AS UGLY AS THEY CAN….THEY DON’T TRY TO DRESS TO IMPRESS WOMEN…THEY DRESS TO IMPRESS MEN….THIS WHOLE RAP GAME….HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS….AND IT HAS TOOK A TOLL ON THE BLACK COMMUNITY…NOW IT’S TAKING A TOLL ON THE LACK OF BLACKS ON TELEVISON.

A LOT OF YOU DON’T KNOW…BUT FOR BLACK PEOPLE OUR MUSIC HAS ALWAYS BEEN SOMETHING VERY UPLIFTING AND POSITVE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE….WHEN YOU DESTROY THE MUSIC ….YOU DESTROY SOME OF THE PEOPLE…NOT ALL….BUT SOME….WHO ARE WEAK AND NO KNOW BETTER.

WHEN JAMES BROWN MADE THAT ONE RECORD “SAY IT LOUD I’M BLACK AND PROUD”…EVERY BLACK PERSON COULD FEEL THE MUSIC AND UNDERSTAND THE MEANING….WHEN YOU PUT OUT RECORDS…YOUR A HO…YOUR A BITCH…AND CALLING YOUR SELF THE “N” WORD…AND ALL OF THE OTHER DEMEANING CRAP THAT THE GAY RAPPERS PUT OUT….THERE IS NO UPLIFTING TO THE MUSIC….IT IS A CONSTANT BARAGE OF INSULTS….AND THAT’S WHAT RAPPERS HAVE DONE….DESTROYED A PORTION OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY…THAT WE AS A WHOLE HAVE TO WORK HARD TO GET BACK.

CHECK OUT IMDB FOR BILL COSBY….AND CHECK OUT ALL OF THE YOUNG BLACK ACTORS ON IMDB FOR THE SAME LENGTH OF TIME FROM THE BEGGINING OF BILL’S CAREER TO THE BEGGINNING OF THEIR’S FOR THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME.

SO HOSEA…YOU ARE A LITTLE LATE IN YOUR COMPLAINT….I AGREE….THE MOVE TO FRIDAY IS A MOVE TO TAKE THE SHOW OFF…ALTHOUGH I LOVE THE SHOW…AND I HOPE THEY DON’T TAKE IT OFF…BECAUSE CURRENTLY IT’S THE ONLY ONE BESIDES EVERYBODY HATES CHRIS THAT I WATCH ON REGULAR TELEVISION.

HOSEA….I WAS ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WROTE IN ABOUT THE CANCELLATION OF GIRLFRIENDS….ANOTHER SHOW IN WHICH I WATCHED AND ENJOYED….THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CARE AND WANT TO SEE US REPRESENTED FAIRLY ON TELEVISION…BUT WHEN YOU HAVE SHOWS SUCH AS MS. NEW YORK AND THE REST…AND RAPPERS WHO ARE A BUNCH OF IGNORANT BUFFOONS….MAIN STREAM NETWORKS…ARE NOT GOING TO COMPETE WITH CABLE STATIONS TO PUT THAT CRAP ON THEIR STATIONS…AND MAIN STREAM NETWORKS THINK THAT BLACK PEOPLE TODAY…ARE TOO DISCONECTED WITH ALL THE BABY MAMA’S DRAMA CRAP, THE DISRESPECT OF WOMEN AND “N” WORD CALLING…TO APPRECIATE SHOWS OF REAL SUBSTANCE…BECAUSE THEY FEEL THEY CAN’T RELATE BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL HO’S AND PANTS SAGGING BUFOONS…AND I UNDERSTAND THEIR POINT AND YOU SHOULD TOO.

I HAVE HEARD WHEN SOME RAPPERS WANT TO MAKE A CLEAN RAP…THEY WERE TOLD IT WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH…THE INDUSTRY PROMOTED THE DESTRUCTION OF BLACK WOMEN…AND THE USE OF THE “N” WORD IN THE MUSIC…WOW…OUR PEOPLE ARE JUST TOOOOOO WEAK TO SEE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE…..I WOULD BE WILLING TO BET…ROYALTIES CHECKS WENT TO MEMBERS OF THE BUSH ADMINSTRATION.

He’s so right and I thank you for having the power to speak out about it. Black people in movies or TV are either sidekicks, handicapped, monsters, criminals, etc., I watch that show “The Game” and I like but it has it issues too. You’ll never ever see a Wesley Snipes in color brother or sister on that show.
This show reminds of the when “The Cosby Show” was on. Many were into the show until they realized and media pumped into their minds, that this type of family does not exist in the world. A black doctor married to a black female lawyer? No way. With the kids that were on this show it look more like a black doctor had an affair with a white lawyer and these were their kids. You have gay writers making movies, TV were the characters are praised for being whores (Sex in the City, Melrose Place).I know this is why I watch as little TV as possible. I’m sick of stereotypical commercial of black people. Every commercial shows either a black male, female or kid with their hair not combed. Am I in a coma, when did that become the thing to do??? I’m proud of Mr. Perry for all his movies and TV, but that “Meet the Browns” show takes us 20000 steps back to the minstrel era. A place where I don’t want to be.

[...] Interview [...]

Ummmm, HOSEA WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!! DO YOU EVEN REALIZE THERE IS A MALIK in the BOOK “INTERCEPTIONS” ??????? Black women should not BORROW ideas from one another and take ALL THE CREDIT! DUH!!!!

New shows and yes, even a new lawsuit come with the territory of launching a new network.

Author Staci Robinson is suing The CW, its owners and some producers for $40 million for allegedly stealing the concept of her unpublished novel to create the sitcom “The Game,” according to The Hollywood Reporter.

The writer claims that in 2001, she had interviewed for a job as a writers assistant at Kelsey Grammer’s Gramnet Prods. when she gave a manuscript of her novel “Interceptions” to “Game” executive producer Mara Brock Akil. The suit, filed Sept. 14, alleges that the series copies her premise and the characters in the book.

She names the CW and its owners, CBS and Warner Bros., Akil and Gramnet as defendants.

Both the written and filmed versions center on a woman who is devoted to an NFL player, but wants to pursue her professional schooling. The show stars Tia Mowry as Melanie Barnett, who gives up Johns Hopkins Medical School in favor of a local school when her boyfriend Derwin Davis (Pooch Hall) is chosen as the new third-string wide receiver for the San Diego Sabers. Soon, however, she gets embroiled in the complicated life of being a player’s significant other.

That is my favorite show, just not for me personally but for all of the hardwork that the crew (including the actors) put into the show, I keep trying to spread the word of mouth for people to support this show, as many times as they have changed the days, please even watch the reruns on Sundays!!!

TYLER PERRY… is a coon and SHOULD BE LYNCHED AND HUNG IN FRONT OF THE WHITE HOUSE, WHERE A REAL BLACK MAN LIVES !

You guys are really on here speaking what’s real. That’s so awesome, the dialogue going on. Hosea is a young man in his 20′s and like most of his age *and in his business), he is mainly concerned about himself. When his paycheck is threatened, he sends out an indignant call for everyone to grap a sign and start marching civil rights style. If he had the same concern and righteous indignation about the fate of other black shows (the ones worth talking about- and truthfully I don’t know what those would be), then I might take him more seriously. “The Game” has been on three years and we heard nan peep from Hosea until it looked like HIS direct deposit was about to dry up.

Someone mentioned Oscar Micheaux. Oscar was all about getting his own money and doing his productions because he knew that white folks were not going to give him a dime. How is it, with all these rich black folk we have running about now, that more black productions in film and tv are not insulated by minority money and airwaves.

When we do get a black sponsored project, we get material that make Step n Fetchit look like a black pride sophisticate. Why do we do this to ourselves? Do we really only think of ourselves in tese derogatory images? We have the few exceptions: “The Great Debators,” “The Secret Life of Bees.” One “First Sunday” will obliterate the other two becaue it is shown a skillion times on cable while the others get limited airplay.

There used to be a black Oscars party. Not sure if they still have them. All you would hear were the well known actors and balck muckety mucks talking about what deals they had with the big studios. Not one talked about helping an up and coming writer, director, producer, etc. There is the ever present crabs-in-a-barrel mentality that keeps black people from wanting to help anyone, even if it’s in a different area that doesn’t threaten their spot.

Go to a black film festival and watch the haves congratulate themselves, floss, pose and huddle together. The successful clique deliberately throws up walls and closes up clam tight to a new person trying to get in the mix. It’s insane. It happens year after year. If a black person does finally make it to noteriety after being treated like a pariah by his/her own people, they often repeat the cycle because they are so upset at how they were treated and feel the next person on the come-up will have to get theirs on their own without assistance like they had to. It’s a vicious cyle.

Jews help Jews. White folks help white folks. We not only do not help each other, we hinder each other and we use each other. Tyler Perry is a case in point. Knowing how difficult it is for a black writer to get a gig, he used that fact to underpay his writers and not offer health care while he opened his studio, had multiple productions on his plate at the same time, held big parties and took his gargantuan share of the “House of Payne” (truly it is) pie by making sure his show was DGA and PGA regulated since he both directed and produced the majority of the episodes. Mr Perry, as he demands to be called, became WGA affiliated only after he caught so much heat from the Hollywood community and even then he cried racism as if him doing wrong was trumped by him being black. And even now he complains about his slate of projects having to be reduced so he can pay his writers as the WGA demands. Shady and shameful. A worker is worth his wages and for a man who is forever quoting the Bible in his projects or claiming Christianity, he might want to read The Good Book for more than punch lines for his characters.

I’m not mad at Hosea. He seems like a nice young man who is just starting to gain consciousness. I hope it will last past the fate of his show, whether it gets picked up or not. We shall see, but I highly doubt it.

Just as an aside, is it too much to ask for people of note to refrain from cursing during an interview? One’s irritation, discontent or outrage actally resonates much stronger when we leave off the base verbage and express ourselves with bonafide proper English. You don’t hear Sidney Portier, Denzel, Alfre Woodard and other greats expressing themselves like this, certainly not in public interviews. They are aware that they have people looking up to them, wanting to be like them and they determine to set a decent example in language as well as lifestyle. I’m just saying…

One more little tiny thing. Pam Veasey, the exec producer of CSI New York has been producing longer than Mara Akil. (though she is older than Mara and so has had more time) She is a remarkable black woman doing it big, has been for some time AND has not been pigeon-holed or relegated to black shows. We don’t hear much about her because she doesn’t produce coon-foonery, but she is a multi-talented incredible black woman.

There are more blacks on TV now than ever before… That is not to say that they know any better what to do with them though.

His comments were right on the money. It’s not just about presence, it’s about content!

The Game is not my favorite show, but I like seeing more than one black person on a show and they don’t act like a bunch of buffoons.

I’ve heard about Flavor or Love, and I Love NY and Housewives of Atlanta, but I have never watched not one SECOND of these shows. It’s pure foolishness and it’s an embarrassment. And you wonder why black women are perceived as hoes and tricks!! You wonder why your daughters get no respect?!

I think we as black people need to pay more attention and take OWNERSHIP OF OUR IMAGES.

Where as white people have an infinite variety of programs that represent them, we have far less, which means we need to be even more cognizant of what is being put out there.

The unfortunate side effect of assimilation is that black people now have as much opportunity as whites to make as big an ass of themselves as white folks do and for a much larger audience. Congrats on that!

The revolution continues….

I totally agree with Hosea! Aw a cutey and smarty pants! Wow I thought I was the only one who noticed that we do not have enough black presence on T.V. I miss seeing good black family shows! Wow the 80′s and 90′s showed the most black tv shows ever!!!

Again, I stated before start a internet television studio. And build it from the ground up, start putting great and interesting content on your site, host casting auditions in a parking lot and have people going there to star in one of your internet productions, have food and cold drinks (have it on a hot day), If you live in L.A. or New York one will have better luck, but the location can be any where, because people no matter what what part of the States they’re from wants a piece of fame, lol….
Yes television and the movie industry are in a sad condition general, so why not take an opportunity to fill a void ?

Opps, I meant in general.

Hosea is Latino, perhaps he is aware that he is also Black.

If Black people wanna get on TV more and be portrayed in a positive image, we need more Black people like Tyler Perry and Oprah Winfrey with drive and initiatve to be entrepenuers in the biz…The whites that own these productions wont give us a chance, we must make it for ourselves…

Im tired of some successful Blacks that open up strip clubs and bars, and not opening up institutions for the improvement of mind….

I love this show, but how ghetto have they made Tasha Mack? A real businesswoman and mother does not sass like that all the damn time. They also portray Malik as a typical black man ho.

1ST OFF THERE ARENT ANY NEILSON BOXES IN BLACK HOUSEHOLDS, SO ACCORDING TO WHITE AMERICA WE ARENT THE ONES WATCHING THESE SHOWS I BELIEVE THAT’S WHERE IT NEEDS TO START GETTING THESE RATINGS BOXES IN BLACK HOUSEHOLDS. IT DEOSNT MATTER IF THE STATION IS BOYCOTTED OR NOT THE BASE THE RATINGS AND WHO WATCHES IT ON THE NEILSON AND THAT’S THE PROBLEM.

We do what we’ve always done, complain about the white media controllers. I don’t see anybody going after Will Smith, Eddie Murphy, Jay-Z, et al with all their money they get from you at the box office. Why don’t they buy a TV station and production house and do their own thing? No, they you got folks like Puffy Combs doing a white man’s play on Broadway! All that black money floating around Hollywood and black folks still blaming white folks. Get a Life!! And dear old Chris Rock with his documentary on HAIR!! Give me a break. Y’all make me sick!

The Game is awful and so is everything done by Tyler Perry. The big , loud ,and fat black mammy character is getting really old and tired. Why do black movies such as Soul Plane and who’s your caddy? get away with such blatant racism? Why is every black movie so damn predictable? Sassy, angry ,loud, and bitter women, gangs, drugs, and of course sports. Why do we watch this bullshit?

WHY KEEP SUPPORTIN WHITE MEN SHOWS ANYWAY?

IF YOU REALLY CARE STOP SUPPPORTING BLACK SHOWS ON WHITE NETWORKS, PERIOD. THE WHITE GUYS ARE PICKING WHAT WE WANT AND WE ARE JUST TAKING IT.

TYLER AND OPRAH NETWORKS ARE LONG OVER DUE!!

AMEN MALIK WITH YOUR FINE SELF!!!!! BLACK MEN STANDING UP FOR SOMETHING. THAT IS TOO POWERFUL!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT ONE BLACK SHOW WITH BLACK KIDS IN POSITIVE SITUTATIONS FOR MY KIDS TO WATCH.. NOT ONE BLACK PRINCESS MOVIE EVER. ALL THOSE DAMN DISNEY MOVIES BLACK PEOPLE BUY AND NEVER EVEN GET TO SEE A BLACK PEROSN IN THEM.

ALL THESE COMPANY LOVE BLACK PEOPLE MONEY BUTNOT BLACK PEOPLE. YOU BETS BELIEVE. YOU NEVA SAW RAVEN APPAREL BEING SOLD AT THE RATE HANNAH IS. EVEN WHITE PEOPLE WOULDN’T WWTAHC RAVEN TO THE SAME DEGREE BUT OUR KIDS ARE FORCED TO WATCH ALL THESE WHITE KIDS ON TV SASSING AND ACTING IG ON TV SHOWS.

IF BLACK PEOPLE STARTED BOYCOTTING DISNEY AND PIXAR MOVIES THEY WOUDL CHANGED UP BUT YA’LL KEEP GIINV YOUR MONEY TO THEM. IF OPRAH AN TYLER START MAKIG BLACK CARTOONS AND MOVIES ALL THE OTHER WILL JOIN B/C THEY DO NOT WANT TO LOSE REVENUE TO THE COMP.

BUT BLACK PEOPLE ARE USUALLY TO TIRED TO STAND UP FOR ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again, read the above messages and run with it, lol…

Tyler Perry should be Lynched and Hung from a fvcking Tree.

I like how this guy is acting like “The Game” is quality black television. He needs to shut his black ass up! I cringe and change the channel real quick when that bullshit show comes on!

here’s the thing, in recent years when networks start-up they have found a good way to get a base is to have Black shows.

the problem is that even if these shows have a loyal following they don’t cross over as much as those networks would like, so when they reach a certain stage they will try to bring in more white shows letting the ones with a mostly black cast go.

look at the track record and you will notice this was down with Fox, WB and UPN, the later to now being CW.

back in the day when Fox made the move to drop it’s block of Black TV shows we where lucky that this was the time WB and UPN started up and they each had their blocks of Black TV shows.

Now CW seems to be making that move, but their isn’t a new network (white or Black or other owned) around to use this model.

But on another not I heard CW not really doing to well so they might not actually drop their black shows yet.

@WIFEY06

If your looking for kid movies with Black people in them I have noticed a few DVDs on the market with such fair, that are done by much smaller companies then disney (some of the companies are black owned, others aren’t) But kid movies with Black people in them are on the market.

[...] I respect Tyler Perry to the fullest because I believe that he is one of the greatest businessmen despite whether or not you agree or disagree about his content. His business sense is phenomenal. His giving back to his community is also a great thing, but it’s to the point where were so secluded, Tyler Perry could write a movie about throwing wet paper towels up against a wall and it would probably be a blockbuster hit. [Source] [...]

One more thing……

Black people: put your money where your mouth is. Letter writing is all well and good, but if you want to see real change you need to hit these corporations where it hurts: their pockets.

For example, as a pothead, I cannot in good faith continue to buy Kellogg’s products after the whole Michael Phelps fiasco. I do not buy fashion magazines (e.g., Vogue, Vanity Fair) because of the severe lack of diversity in their pages. I try to patronize businesses that take the time out to market to people of color (including Hispanics, Arabs, Indians, etc., because America is much more than just black and white and any company that isn’t afraid to acknowledge that is alright with me), and of course, I always support black-owned businesses.

Folks, there’s some serious buying power in our community. We need to start harnessing that for our own best interests.