you’re finished.

TSk.TSk….these ballers today…

Wow…

Really!!!? But someone saw him on a luxury millionaire club http://www.meetrich.com what’s happening??

Damn. Why not just keep it in your pants? Better yet get a vasectomy they are inexpensive, reversible, and will lessen your likelihood of having a child you can’t or won’t take care of until you’re ready.

Why cldn’t he have gotten a lawyer, had all the DNA tests and had reasonable payments set up for when he left the NBA!

Why didn’t he wear a condom?

Why didn’t he get a vasectomy after child#4?

Why didn’t he make any investments for after he left the NBA knowing damn well he has at least 8 chldren to feed, cloth and put through school?

Why did women continue to have unprotected sex with him?

SMDH, more fuel for the stereo type of dumb black atheletes and black men making all these kids they can’t or don’t take care of!

Thats nasty 4real.

Damn….

She didn’t know about all of the children,” lawyer Regina Edwards said. “She knew about a few. She had no idea he was being that disrespectful to her.”

The word “disrespectful” doesn’t quite fit this situation.

vgeezy,

truer words have never been spoken

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disrespectful is sort of a mild way of putting it.

Oppo always trying to promote that damn club!

I see those women know about the 9 month wealth building plan. I thought it was a secret.

I used to date Nigel Benns son who was a world champion boxer and he was the same, his son didn’t even know his father past 2 and he has countless brothers and sisters. He even try to deny him and he is the only one out of his kids so far who actually has followed in his footsteps and become a boxer and is making it on the London circuit and your going to turn around and say he isn’t yours.

He (the guy i used to see) had a half brother with the same name!

Athletes are the worse!

I don’t deal w/ baby mama drama so this post was as interesting as Kim and Puffy.

sorry…all the blame isn’t on him

yes its sad that he is out makin babies like crazy but sheesh…

most women see these men as “cash cows”

these men really need to be smarter

most of us [women] wouldn’t give a regular brother with 6-7 kids (by 12 women)a second glance. why is it that these guys STILL get the time of day…

“cash cows”. you reap what you sow. i don’t feel sorry for the men NOR the women. only the children. poor, poor babies.

Please quit this “all the blame is not on him” talk. We know. However, seeing as he is the one fathering numerous children by numerous women, and not theses women having numerous babies with numerous men, I think it has more to do with this fool being, well, a fool. He desreves everything he gets and more. I hope he goes broke, his baby mamas go broke as well, so that they can teach their children to live economically and actually appreciate money. Useless, uneducated, glorified slave(ys, that is what these so-called black athletes are). Deadbeat. How ever so typical! SMDFH!

I am from La. and I can understand men need to pay child support but on the real. If you know he is not playing sports for what ever reason how to expect for him to continue to pay your astronomical child support. You are being greedy. Half of the time the money is going towards the woman and not the welfare of the child…if you are knowing he is on bad terms why do this to him…seek more money…

Marquis de Sade sez,

These athletes have got to learn that most of these women consider their sperm as nothing but little atm cards that they can use for an 18 – 21 year free ride.

LMAO!!…..but so true!!

@Ttime

You speak true dialogue.

But, I want to say that men who have sex with women without regard for having a child were taught an some point in their lives to have such a degrading attitude by who? The Black Woman. I am not saying this to put down all black women, so PLEASE, if this is NOT YOU, do not be offended! But, anyway, I’ll cosign.

IT’S CHEAPER 2 BUY CONDOMS AND USE THEM THEN HAVING KIDS U KNOW U CAN’T AFFORD!!!!DUH DUMB A..

Those atheletes will impregnate a hole in a wall, deposit a disease and child.

BLACK MEN SIMPLY HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A FATHER BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT MEN. EVEN ANIMALS TAKE CARE OF THEIR OFFSPRING, THAT’S WHY EVEN THE BIBLE SAYS THAT A AMN WHO DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF HIS CHILDREN IS WORST THAN AN INFIDEL.

GOT CONDOMS?

If I had to hook up some sperm for my atm card, I think I would like to have sperm from Bill Gates or Warren Buffett………someone with multigenerational wealth. Someone who can still make payments when the checks STOP coming it. Hell, need sperm that don’t have to file for bankruptcy, because he pissed his money away. Someone who can set up a million dollar trust funds for their grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

@ MEN

Do y’all ever feel like the world is all about man bashing especially black men?

@ Women

Do y’all have bfs/husbands? If so do you encourage them?

He need Jesus and so do the women who had his baby. Eight baby momma’s. HIV and hepres aren’t anything to play with. They could have put their children at risk. SMH When will men and women learn. And we wonder why AA are leading cases for HIV/AIDS.

@Black Men Are So..

I gotta tell you to go hang yourself for that garbage. Seeing as know many great Black fathers (and happen to be one myself) I don’t appreciate the sweeping generalization.

Bitter ass.

@ BLACK MEN ARE SO PATHETIC

What does that say for the women who lay with these (so-called) animals? I suggest that you to the Golden Brooks thread and read The Undisputed Truth’s take on black women who make piss poor choices on men.

@Pervster

I agree. I am a woman and I was offended by that generalization. That’s why I posted that thread asking all women and all men.

No one is BASHING black men, but I think that there is the unspoken ASSUMPTION and EXPECTATION that once you become a millionaire, you cease with the foolish and destrutive behavior.

You should at least BUY yourself some good sense!

black women are atrracted to men like this……

Then that niggca down here in mobile with clubs (1608)and stuff got everybody think he balling looking crazy

Why?

Why?

http://www.theblackactor.com/

Oh great..I’m happy to clarify. The answer is HELL NO, I’m sure she won’t be one of those women, cause she’s being RAISED right. She knows what love is by the way her FATHER shows it to her. I’m merely stating just in the course of her socialization in college, etc. You can’t stop someone from having a relationship when it’s “true”, but fortunately she has a daddy that recognizes “game” and can put it to her to keep her on the straight path. Period.

My point is, I would HIGHLY DISCOURAGE it. And being as how I myself am an up and coming songwriter/artist I know firsthand the game out here.

What I desire for my daughter has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with loose groupies out here that serve as sperm receptacles, and I cannot see at all why you tried to draw a parallel.

@Pervster

In response to:

I cannot see at all why you tried to draw a parallel.

I drew the parallel b/c you made a generalization about all men in the entertainment and sports field. If you raised her right, which I am sure you are, then why discourage her from dating someone in those fields? As a woman that she will one day become that’s her choice and your statment only furthered the idea that male entertainers and athletes are untrustworthy or would make bad partners.

BLACK MEN ARE SO PATHETIC

BLACK MEN SIMPLY HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A FATHER BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT MEN. EVEN ANIMALS TAKE CARE OF THEIR OFFSPRING, THAT’S WHY EVEN THE BIBLE SAYS THAT A AMN WHO DOES NOT TAKE CARE OF HIS CHILDREN IS WORST THAN AN INFIDEL.

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Generalizations is not sound wisdom. This is all the face of all black men, just like all black women are not as willing to let men inject them with semen to get thousand dollar checks 12 times 18 years. Learn about the black men who are true gods in their business and what they do, dear. Learn about the black goddesses who know how to love and submit to their black gods. Hotep.

“This is NOT all the face of all black men,”

Thank you.

sperm receptacles…lol

no really, lmao

To those men:

Why are y’all surprised that a chick only wants you for your finances and your dick when that’s all you offer her?

To those women:

Why do you wear revealing outfits and then get mad if he only wants to f*ck?

And…

you crack me up. LOL

are you gathering all of this knowledge for a book? LOL…PLEASE tell me when it hits shelves. I will support you girl!

@I Stay SMH

LOL, no I am just so curious. I should have majored in psychology. I ask these questions to people all the time but they won’t answer them. I figure asking online makes it easier for people to be honest.

@AND..

Please revisit my post when I spoke of “true” relationships, you can only take so much out of blog posts. I said I would HIGHLY DISCOURAGE it. I did not generalize all athletes and entertainers, I simply said “I wish my daughter would”..it was you who made that deduction.

That is where being able to discern the game from the real comes in, being able to see a person’s character and advising your children accordingly. But then you have a source such as Elicious34c telling her story…Not all, but let’s be honest a large portion of them are doing this.

has he ever heard of condoms

He will be broke for a very long time.

@Elicious

Sorry, I wasn’t trying to imagine your titty size :O)

“..such as Elicious34c telling her story”..

@Pervster

Your last thread only agreed with my last post about you making a generalization. You said I wish my daughter would” (I’m sorry for assuming so I’ll ask) What did you mean by that statment?

@AND..For the 3rd time

I would HIGHLY DISCOURAGE it. What did you expect me to say??? Let me try some substitutes for you..

I would..put my daughter in timeout??

I would… disown my daughter (how silly)

I would.. smack the taste out of her mouth (never to my kids) I will spank that ass though if they get out of line. (By the way I have a teen daughter)

I would…cut her out of her inheritance??

My point is, I’m sure you are well aware of how we use that phrase in certain situations, right?? I merely said it to stress how serious I am about her entering into certain types of relationships; that have a high probability of being destructive.

“has yet to pay up for about eight children ”

Wow, he’s a few kids short of having a full basketball team of illegitimate kids. Congrats!!

I’m just saying, if it is a one night stand, or maybe you just want to hit it, or if you do not plan to marry the lady, can a brother shoot it on her stomach? Does every instance where the brother has sex have to end on the inside? Daaag! Fools, all of them!

I could take my time and read all of these interesting (i’m sure) posts, but I have no idea who this guy is and I’m a basketball fan. So…

Homie, if you make the babies, support and take care of them. Period dot. *This is a PSA to all the dudes and ladies not taking responsibility. You don’t want your kids and folx to see you as a fuggin’ loser* Do you?

sitfu.com

Taking a Closer Look at the Stories Ignored by the Mainstrean Media

Yeah, athletes are bad, but I know some broke brothers with more kids than the tea cup ride can hold at once. Guys like this brought this bad behavior with them to the league. They were merely aided and abetted by a fat check while lacking good judgment.

Black men this, black women that. What about those poor kids who never asked to be put in the situation to begin with ? I wonder how many of them grew up having mom point to the tv cause that was the only time they ever saw their fathers ? This makes me wish there were parental competency tests given at doctors offices. If you fail, you get sterilized.

Smartie

This makes me wish there were parental competency tests given at doctors offices. If you fail, you get sterilized.

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LOL damn

I do agree both parties share the blame. People have just stopped considering the consequences, not only for themselves but for their current and future families

Jason made at least 5 million dollars in one seaon (one year). That’s more money that most people will make in two or three lifetimes.

What in the hell did he spend his money on? And yes, we do know, it wasn’t condoms.

@Pervster

Sorry, didn’t mean to stike a chord just trying to get an understanding. Sensitive much?

ROTFLMAO@

JillyBean819

“has yet to pay up for about eight children ”

Wow, he’s a few kids short of having a full basketball team of illegitimate kids. Congrats!!

^^^^ pot calling the kettle black Miss I have a baby daddy in the NBA. Between the Nelly post the shemale in the black out fit and this I must be in the twlight zone.

When are our people gonna stop with foolishness?

Instead of calling the children “illegitimate”, we should call the parents “illegitimate”!! They committ the crime, the child doesn’t!

Just a thought…

When are our people gonna stop with foolishness?

NEVER!!!!!

These guys have all this money, so why don’t they date women who are doctors, executives, lawyers or hell, even an Indian Chief instead of these baby mamas?

How ridiculous. I’ll bet every penny I have (which is probably more than he has) that he feels like a victim of these women. As if somehow he didn’t know that having indiscriminate, unprotected sex would result in child support lawsuits.

If he isn’t smart enough to put on a condom, I’m not surprised he’s run out of money.

Bankruptcy does not absolve you of child support responsibilities. It will allow the court to erase all former calculations and determine support based on post-bankruptcy earnings. He’s not getting away with anything. You can’t file your kids away.

@AND..

No, not quite sensitive. It just gets to be a bit annoying when someone cannot get something when you tell it to them explicitly 3 DAMN times. It has nothing to do with you “striking a chord”, unless you equate that to beiing obnoxious…

EP

These guys have all this money, so why don’t they date women who are doctors, executives, lawyers or hell, even an Indian Chief instead of these baby mamas?

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Ha! LOL in so many ways

@ AND…. & EP

This may come off as being superficial, but have you seen your average female doctor, lawyer, executive? On average, not a pretty sight.

The reason why groupies are so desirable to the male athlete/rapper/actor is because they work real hard on their looks. That’s their job…Besides, why would a ultra-attractive female doctor/lawyer/executive entertain the thought of dating an overpaid jock, a thug with a recording contract and a narcissistic actor? – They don’t have to.

Having money doesn’t make elevate people. Hello ? What did dumbass T.I. just get caught doing ? What’s that loon Heather Mills doing ? This b-ball player was probably making up to 5 mil a year thanks to a smart agent, not player. The agent probably pointed to the line on the contract and told that dumbass where to sign. He’s probably fool enough to put circles or hearts over his little “i” too.

Pervster

@AND..

No, not quite sensitive. It just gets to be a bit annoying when someone cannot get something when you tell it to them explicitly 3 DAMN times. It has nothing to do with you “striking a chord”, unless you equate that to beiing obnoxious…

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No, I don’t I was trying to confirm what you said. AND… I was right. No biggie.

Marquis de Sade

@ AND…. & EP

This may come off as being superficial, but have you seen your average female doctor, lawyer, executive? On average, not a pretty sight.

The reason why groupies are so desirable to the male athlete/rapper/actor is because they work real hard on their looks. That’s their job…Besides, why would a ultra-attractive female doctor/lawyer/executive entertain the thought of dating an overpaid jock, a thug with a recording contract and a narcissistic actor? – They don’t have to.

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Don’t know where you live but you don’t have to be a hoe to be beautiful.

I’d have to disagree. There are lots of powerful and attractive women out here on the playing field. Check out BE’s 50 most powerful women in business.

My observation is that a lot of these powerful black men “say” they want a women that can bring something to the table but they are very intimidated by a woman that can “hold her own” and do well without him.

Some of these guys have REAl complexes, you know. he’s gotta feel like a “man”. His woman has got to be Mrs. {Insert Husband’s name here} instead having their own identity and say so.

A groupie wants what she wants. Her intentions are on the table. She is not desiring respect, self worth, time and consideration.

THAT would be my reasoning as to why they choose the company that they “creep”.

want a “woman”

my bad

lol

Marquis de Sade sez,

This may come off as being superficial, but have you seen your average female doctor, lawyer, executive? On average, not a pretty sight.

LOL, you just wait until I tell my sister, cousin, and sister-in-law (all lawyers) on you!

Gross

http://perezhilton.com/?p=7844

@ EP & AND…

Yes, but do they date jocks and rappers? And how many unattractive groupies do you see professional jocks/rappers/actors with, unless they had the misfortune of marrying their H.S. or College sweetheart, who has now gone to seed?

Just feeding into the “black man” sterotype. Thanks! Shame.

I was at the grocery store the other day with my baby. This black guy walked up to me saying, “Oh that’s a quiet baby. We’ll come around if the baby’s like that,” and so on and so on about not being around his child. I ignored him and shortly after, my husband came towards us, and began playing with our child. He felt like a dumbass. Since when did being away from your baby become so damn funny? And since when did seeing a black woman with their child in public automatically counts as her being by herself with a “baby-daddy”? These damn sterotypes are pathetic. (I’m starting a new sterotype: All black women have at least $7,000 in their savings account)

SMH

Oh girl that made me throw up!! UGH!

EP

Marquis de Sade sez,

This may come off as being superficial, but have you seen your average female doctor, lawyer, executive? On average, not a pretty sight.

LOL, you just wait until I tell my sister, cousin, and sister-in-law (all lawyers) on you!

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I hope they whoop his ass. LOL!!

misfortune of marrying their high school sweetie…

WOW???

@Marquis de Sade

I feel you but that’s their choice. There are plenty of women dating entertainers who have their own careers. I never said anything about lawyer or doctor b/c that’s not the only thing you can do to be succesful. These athletes are making their own beds hard and now they must sleep in them.

Is this where Diddy is headed?

Why would you have this many kids if your ass was practicing safe sex? TRIFLING ass motherf*cker!

Beyonce acccused of GHETTOIZING Reno Neighborhood!!! Pretty Ricky Breaks UP!

Well if he knew he had child support like that he should have been trying to extend his career in the NBA, making better investments, or something. It wasn’t like child support spring up on him along with the kids. He need to put his soldiers on strike cause he can afford their past conquest he can’t aquire anymore. Did he at least finish college?

^^^Can’t afford

I’m just curious to know where all the child support money he was paying these women went. I’m sure he was probably paying thousands per kid per month. Who spends thousands a month on a kid? No one I know.

@ thaaazright

You know those $30.00 baby Js add up through the years. lol

^ ummm I tend to think that if he doesn’t even know how many chilrens he HAS — he ain’t been payin much of anything to anyone.

^^^

“Hell he got 5″

^ LOL, but as long as he is EFFin artist in the a$$ with no KY…and continuously bringing in new artists, endorsments, business deals — his family will continue to eat.

you ain’t gon catch ol’ diddy sitting at home pickin his nose waitin on money to fall from the sky…he KNOW he got mouths to feed (including grown ones)

SMDH……For some reason I cant find it in my heart to feel sorry for him……

We’ll never advance as a race if we don’t even take care of our own offspring. Lord have mercy on us all…another embarrassment to hardworking, faith-based, family-oriented black people.

I am a woman, but I STILL blame the women! Men cannot give birth and until we, as black woman, demand that men be REAL, FAITH-BASED men and stop having babies out of wedlock for men who will eventually abandon us and the innocent children, then nothing will ever change. If a man knows that the only way for him to become a father is to become a REAL man and commit to a wife and a family, I believe that this would have the most impact in the black community.

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I wholeheartedly agree with Ttime.

Having your biological parents under the same roof is more valuable than anything money can buy. (Unless of course there is abuse in the relationship.)

We as women owe it to our children to choose whom we mate with wisely.

Men, the best gift you can give to your child is to love their mother completely.

these dumb ass athletes will never learn….

Why he mad all those kids? http://www.spymac.com/details?2295014

This is why its important to wear condoms or at least have sex when your married.

“IF YOU CAN’T FEED THEM, DON’T BREED THEM”!

With all the money these athletes make,they should invest in a case of condoms instead of rims & bling. I guess they are trying to eclipse the record for most kids by an athlete by Ex NBA player back in the ’70′s & ’80′s Houston Rockets guard Calvin Murphy who I believe has around 15 kids. Then u have guys like Sean Kemp, Latrell Spreewell, Willie Anderson who have a multitude of kids. Right now, the person that takes the cake in the NFL is Travis Henry of the Denver Broncos who has 9 kids by 9 babymamas. I guess hockey players don’t act a fool doing the “mattress mambo” like the brothers in the other major sports. All these guys fertilizing all these women will have no money for support & will be sleeping on park benches.

When are our people gonna stop with foolishness?

It’s so funny if you live in Baltimore it’s entirely cool to ask a girl how many kids she has instead of if she has them. Tell her you don’t have kids the question is why? Umm I’m not married chick. Whatever women have the kids women need to stop having kids. Make the guys use condoms. No problem.

When are our people gonna stop with foolishness?

When we go back to the old school way of raising kids. If you are too sorry to raise your child, give them to somebody that wil raise them.

No child should be forced to live with loser parents that view them as a check.

When we encourage education and not drugs, gangs and sex. I shouldn’t see 11 year old girls pregnant. I shouldn’t have to hear in my school the average conversation between young black kids begin with who got shot, bloods, crips, I got arrested or I licked the p***y or ate this d**k. While the Hispanic conversations begin with I got a job, did you see what happen in the news or I bought (blank).

When our black women learn to keep their legs closed. How in the hell can you teach a boy to respect women when they see 5 siblings with different daddies and your bedroom is a motel six

When our pastors stop worrying about how big of a church they have and go baack to saving the community as it was designed to do.

When our black men stop defining manhood by sex. I don’t care if you sleep with half the WNBA, you are a ho and an embarrassment to our race for degrading women and yourself.

When we stop praising brothers that break the law. Jena 6? Vick? Pacman? And start praising those that do right. When was the last time anyone praised a young brother that made the honor roll?

When we stop standing by and letting losers ruin our kids. No parent should allow anyone to teach their child to stael car even if they are family.

When we stop watching BET and supporting negative media (movies, magazines & shows). We want some positive stuff to balance out everything. You want to show 50 Cent & LeBron off, then show me all those failed rappers and athletes and explain WHY THEY FAILED.

STOP HONORING FLAVOR OF THE MONTH NEGROS! Can we get some black awards show to show some love to guys that helped pave the way for others or continue to prove we aren’t losers. Levar Burton? Sean Nelson? Arjay Smith? James Earl Jones? Lt. Uhara?

When we stop letting the hood take our kids over. I don’t want to see a middle class black kid trying to be gangsta. Need proof-BOW WOW.

I guess people don’t think about STD’s and AIDS I know I do What a sad society we live in

Bit Player,

It’s same here in Texas. It’s just that middle/high school girls brag about it. We have a tleast two schools where if you don’t have a child, you are a loser.

I second Ghost’s 9:19 post on when our people will stop this foolishness. So let it be written, so let it be done.

That is what they all say. Who is he, is he a bench warmer. IF he ain’t a starter he ain’t worth it. I called you out cause you put your business out there.

You claim to be in that situation why acting all high and mighty. Fact is your just like them. Im sure he was sleeping with other women and you end up having unprotected sex anyway!! Ms High and mighty, you ain’t no different, play stupid all you want.

@ Jus Another Opinion

You are soooo immature…And hopefully in a few years, you’ll look back on your impetuousness and be ashamed…Better yet, why aren’t you heeding the counseling of your mentor “LAWDHAVEMERCY”, when she delicately advised you on an earlier thread regarding Karrine Stepphans aka Superhead, to calm down and show a little restraint and decorum…Afterall, elicious34 just shared her experience in dealing with a personal relationship with a professional ballplayer as pertaining to this current thread. She was polite and articulate and not the least bit condescending, as you so unfairly accused her of. In closing, you should appologize for your unwarranted rudeness and pugnacious attitude. In other words, dare to be different and be a lady.

WOMEN DICTATE SOCIETY’S STANDARDS!!!!!!

I’m sorry, but seriously, once a guy has two or three children and he’s not with the mother, what can you really expect? Why are some women stupid enough to think that they have the “Magic Box” to make these men settle down. A dead beat is a dead beat by any other name. Cherish your womb and the children it may hold, stop having babies by losers. Althoug, some of you make a living by having loser’s babies.

Love the title!

N*ggas (there is a distinct difference between black men and n*ggas) ain’t sh*t…..and neither are the ignorant hoodrats who have their illegitimate children.

Birth control is EVERYWHERE and much of it is FREE….use it! I just don’t get it- why in the Holy hell would you raw an NBA player????? AND one with a school of kids already???? These dumb MFs made their messy, trifling beds….now let them lie in it.

When did it become a badge of honor to be a baby mama of any kind???? Guess I didn’t get the memo….

Note to nig nog rappers and gang bangers, etc. Come up with a rap like “If you are going to get silly, better wrap your willy”

You’d think he’d do something after kid #3 but nooooooo.

Was the punani really worth it… fool?

I think not.

Some (some, I use that loosely) men are just dumb. Especially the rich ones. You can get rid of child support just by filing bankruptcy. I am a child support officer.

Oh and I’m probably just as dumb for posting this during work hours.

(CORRECTION IN THE SECOND SENTENCE)

Some (some, I use that loosely) men are just dumb. Especially the rich ones. You CAN’T get rid of child support just by filing bankruptcy. I am a child support officer.

Oh and I’m probably just as dumb for posting this during work hours.

Kneegrows are just plain stupid when it comes to responsibility.

Well my people I must say, people don’t think about the outcome when in bed. They are thinking about having fun. In response to the person who asked why these players don’t date doctors, lawyers,and other professionals is simple. Can a player tell me to get on a plane at 1:00am because he wants to have sex? Hell no,but he could do that to a misguided woman who doesn’t have her own situation going on. They can have women in every city they play in and see them on rotation. For some men getting married is great for their PR it means that they are serious,stable and want to build a foundation. It does not stop them from wanting to feel desired. When they come home their wives are not going to be excited like a jump-off would be. For the women I just say that most of the time no matter how great you are in bed he is not going to give you full access. Having a baby by them is serious business because you have to be there for the child for the rest of the child’s life. How will the child feel growing up in a broken home? Having bling today will not do anything for you later if you did not earn it yourself? For the men, you know these women are out there and yet the saga continues right? Try this talk to without mentioning what you do for a living and dress without bling. Men offer tell women about their money like holding a carrot in front of a rabbit then they wonder why she wants the money. If women stop running behind these players and get their own money the world would be a better place. If men focus more on making the money instead of the women they would not be in child support court.