Quote of The Day

Posted on February 26th, 2009 - By Bossip Staff

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Here is MSNBC political commentator Pat Buchanan’s response to Attorney General Eric Holder’s statement that America is a nation of “cowards” when it comes to discussing race:

Lecturing a conscript conclave of Justice Department bureaucrats, Attorney General Eric Holder last week called America a “nation of cowards” for not spending more time talking about race.

Reading his speech, however, one recalls the sage counsel of Pat Moynihan to President Nixon in 1970: This whole subject might benefit from a long period of “benign neglect.”
One point Holder did allude to, without specifics, was this:

“It is not safe for this nation to assume that the unaddressed social problems in the poorest parts of the country can be isolated and will not ultimately affect the larger society.”

Fair point. And what are some of those social problems?

A 70 percent illegitimacy rate in black America, an incarceration and crime rate seven times that of white America, a 50 percent dropout rate in many urban high schools, African-American graduates reading and computing on average at eighth-grade levels.Rather, he is upset that “on Saturdays and Sundays” we don’t go to church or hang out together. But why are the free associations of Americans, of whatever creed or color, any of Eric Holder or Big Brother’s business?

And about these problems what is the black leadership doing? Unlike Bill Cosby, the heroic Holder was virtually mute.

Having insulted us, perhaps Holder will start doing his own sworn duty. For one area where he has a lead role is enforcing the nation’s laws – in particular, the U.S. immigration laws. For the federal failure to enforce these laws is a contributory cause of one of those “unaddressed social problems in the poorest parts of the country.”

Case in point – rampant unemployment among minority youth.

According to the Center for Immigration Studies, among African-Americans 18 to 29 with only a high-school degree, unemployment is now 20 percent. Among black adults who do not have a high-school diploma, it is 24 percent. Among teenagers under 18, black unemployment is 30 percent.

Among native-born Hispanics with only a high-school diploma, the unemployment rate is 13.6 percent. Among high-school dropouts, 16 percent. Among Hispanic 16- and 17-year-olds, the jobless figure is 40 percent.

As these figures were compiled in December, before the last two months of sweeping layoffs, they surely understate the situation. And with both black and Hispanic dropout rates now reaching 50 percent in major cities, the social dynamite is piling up.

Last month, USA Today reported that the FBI estimates there are now 1 million gang members in the United States – up 200,000 from 2005 – and these gangs are responsible for 80 percent of all U.S. crimes.

From other studies, young Hispanics are 19 times as likely as white youth to join gangs, while African-Americans are 15 times.

These millions of teenagers, and unskilled and less-educated young adults with no jobs and little prospect of finding them, are recruiting pools for criminal gangs.

Who is getting the jobs for which these native-born black and Hispanic young could quality? Illegal aliens hold literally millions of them.

Last week, the CIS reported, “An estimated 6 to 7 million illegal immigrants are currently holding jobs. Prior research indicates they are overwhelmingly employed in lower-skilled and lower-paid jobs.”

Exactly what sort of jobs?

“Illegals are primarily employed in construction, building cleaning and maintenance, food preparation, service and processing, transportation and moving occupations and agriculture.”

With the exception of agriculture, a majority of the workers in these occupations are native-born Americans. Thus, illegal aliens are taking jobs Americans are not only willing to do, but are doing, and taking 7 million of these jobs from young Americans now out of work.

By failing to enforce U.S. immigration laws, the government of the United States is selling America’s working class down the river.

In addition to the 7 million illegals holding jobs, legal immigrants have another 15 million. In 2008, when Americans lost 3.5 million jobs, 144,000 immigrants were admitted every month.

Why do we have an open-borders immigration policy that annually allows in millions, legal and illegal, to compete for jobs, when 10 million Americans are out of work and half a million are losing their jobs every month? The political correctness and moral cowardice of our Lords Temporal, who refuse to call a time-out on immigration until our own people go back to work, is killing the American dream for millions.

According to the census, as reported in The New York Times on Saturday, 97 percent of immigrants from Mexico do not speak English at home. They are less skilled and less educated than the average American.

Says demographer William Frey, “The new immigration magnets especially in the Southwest are disproportionately attracting young Mexican men who are willing to accept low wages.”

What further proof is needed that mass immigration from the Third World is taking jobs from Americans and driving down their wages when they do find work?

Here is a problem more serious than whether black and white elites are getting together on weekends to gabble about race.

But, dealing with it, Mr. Holder, will take courage.

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  • RichmondHeightsFL

    WOW, very informative.

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  • jb_1030

    The reason the wage is going down is beacuse tehy are willing to do what we Americans are too lazy or proud to do. So if they pay $10 an hour for digging up potatoes aer Americans looking for work going to get to digging? Nope cause they have too much pride. If you about to lose yoru house, you better grab some gloves, burlap bags and start singing them old spirtiuals.

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  • Chai

    people would not need to migrate if american businesses were not taking over their countries and destroying their livelihoods. so businesses like Walmart can travel freely across borders for money and people can’t? I wish they would stop trying to divide black poor from immigrant poor. The reason we don’t have jobs is because 10% of the people own 90% of the wealth not because “immigrants are taking all our jobs.” Plus, they really were here first…

  • vgeezy

    As much as I abhor Pat Buchanan. He is absolutely right. Most Blacks in higher positions of authority are doing absolutely nothing to help those that are less fortunate.

  • http://Bossip ***AKeys*_lovin

    Sad but true

  • http://www.gravatar.com Re…I happen to like BattleStar Galactica

    Wowsers…that wasn’t a quote of the day…that was a “book of the day” post…

  • Somer

    NACCP is too busy having funerals for the N-word while black people are self medicating with FOOD, liquar, and drugs. It absolutely sickened me at the amont of blacks I saw yesterday just out on the streets of Atl that are obese. When I am at the airport it hurt my shoulders just to have a 20lb carry on bag. I can’t imagine carrying 100lbs 24/7.

  • Mark

    Great post Bossip. I have never been a Pat Buchanan fan, but he succinctly points out how closely related our immigration and poverty issues are. The statistics regarding the education and employment of our youth continues to boggle the mind. Thanks for a great post.

  • The Sane One

    Look I don’t like this racist and those of his ilk, but I sometimes wonder what can really be said for the state of the community? They have so much ammunition. It’d be one thing if the majority of us were simply struggling against the system after doing our BEST as the elders were. Now we don’t even have a decent value system in place.

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    Hey Re, whats going on pretty woman?

  • Come on People

    Yeah, I agree with jb_1030. If a drug dealer or the criminals in those gangs offer what seems to be an opportunity to make $2-3000 a week compaired to $10/hour which is $400/week, what do you think that many of these young black and hispanic men and women will take, especially if they are undereducated and unemployeed.

  • NYCinVA

    I don’t understand the point of racing to see who can be “1st”. What do you do, wait on a post just to add a comment before you can even read it??? Anyway, I digress….I could care less about what white people think of me (or other minorities, for that matter). However, I am concerned that black parents and community/political leaders can’t seem to keep a large percentage of our youth from dropping out of school and becoming a burden to society. WE have to figure that out…We do not need white America to be our “friends” for us to realize that we have a duty to look out for our own best interest, just as they have done all these years. Black people are too concerned about white America when most of white america could care less about our issues. It saddens me that a Mexican immigrant comes to this country and is willing to work hard anywhere that is willing to give him/her a chance but a young black man thinks that certain jobs are beneath him and would rather sell crack to his own people (destroying his own community in the process)! It’s time to wake up people! I will get off my soap box now!

  • workin’ my nerves

    This is totally off topic, but why did this white guy just say to me he wanted me to be his “Obama Mama.” Rather than being flattered, I was greatly offended. Had to give him the side-eye treatment.

  • http://www.gravatar.com Pimpin Willie Dynamite Supertight (Married To My Money)

    @NYCinVA

    I don’t understand the point of racing to see who can be “1st”. What do you do, wait on a post just to add a comment before you can even read it??? Anyway, I digress….I could care less about what white people think of me (or other minorities, for that matter). However, I am concerned that black parents and community/political leaders can’t seem to keep a large percentage of our youth from dropping out of school and becoming a burden to society. WE have to figure that out…We do not need white America to be our “friends” for us to realize that we have a duty to look out for our own best interest, just as they have done all these years. Black people are too concerned about white America when most of white america could care less about our issues. It saddens me that a Mexican immigrant comes to this country and is willing to work hard anywhere that is willing to give him/her a chance but a young black man thinks that certain jobs are beneath him and would rather sell crack to his own people (destroying his own community in the process)! It’s time to wake up people! I will get off my soap box now!

    You pretty much sum up how I feel about the situation, I want to add that we as a people also need to quit worrying about getting along with and how we are viewed by others, and focus on us and our own communities.

  • And…

    @ Re….Sup chica?

    As for commenting, Lord where do I start?

    If I do I won’t get any work done today, lol.

    I’m one of few in my office.

  • that girl

    @ JB_

    I concur!

  • ShavonDenise

    Leave it to Pat to always break it down. I feel like alot of whites think like he does because they dont fully understand the Black plight. Alot of people didnt understand why Blacks were so emotional when Obama won and alot people just dont get it. They have tunnle vision and only see their issues. Now alot of wealthy white Americans are angry because they wont have as many tax breaks as they had before and I see them changing on Obama already. You have to have empathy for people even if you cant understand their plight. I watched a documentary on the holacust and I cried like a baby and alot of whites that arent Jewish did also. This is the same thing. Pat is spitting out stats but he’s not saying what has caused these numbers. He tried to throw Cosby in the mix, which I’m sure Cosby wouldnt appreciate, but he’s missing the point. Bill Cosby has done so much for African Americans and he see’s the potential and know he’s saying hey, its not the man anymore WE have to get it together. Pat hasnt done jack sh*t for us so he has no right to talk.

  • told you so

    sad but true…
    If black folk quit glorifying the fast dollar and taught the value of an earned dollar then maybe things wouldn’t be quite so bad.
    We as a people need to stop the glorification of rappers, athletes and the guy on the corner that doesn’t seem to have a real job but somehow has a Benz. Why not show black youth the excellent role models we have in Ken Chennault, Alfred Mays, Brenda Edgerton, Curtis Crawford or Stacey Mobley?
    I’m just say’n though

  • free

    The Sane One said “Look I don’t like this racist and those of his ilk, but I sometimes wonder what can really be said for the state of the community? They have so much ammunition. It’d be one thing if the majority of us were simply struggling against the system after doing our BEST as the elders were. Now we don’t even have a decent value system in place.”

    ***********************************************

    So true. I live in the hood and the problem starts with parenting. Many, many mothers cannot do it without fathers. The ones who are being raised decently are going to schools that are hotbeds of gang activities and sex. These kids have no respect for teachers and/or coaches, they are immune to consequences, and they simply don’t want to learn. They are not going to be our future (pharmacists, doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers, policemen, firemen, etc.). They ain’t gonna be sh*t. And you can quote me on that. A lost generation. We need to start with the newborns and get these fathers (those without drugs and guns that the kids can get ahold of and overdose or accidentally shoot themselves in the face) back in the household and rearing these kids.

  • free

    Pat hasnt done jack sh*t for us so he has no right to talk.

    *****************************************

    We haven’t done jack sh*t for ourselves either.

  • P

    http://www.kejda.net/2009/02/23/robert-spencers-connections-the-srjda-trifkovic-file/

    pat buchanan linked to serbians who ethnic-cleansed muslims in the 90′s

  • that girl

    @ Somer and Mark

    great posts.

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    @ free, pimpin, NYC VA, told ya so

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  • And…

    As I was saying…

    I’m one of few in my office and I stick out like a sore thumb.

    Regulary race is an issue, they are so curious about is it’s not funny.

    People are so preoccupied with race…more than we’ll ever know.

    What people fail to realize is that all races operate on different standards and its sad.

    We have Blacks that associate success, speaking well, having tact and poise with being White.

    Yet, when White people cut up or engage in any adverse behavior it is said they’re acting Black.

    The problem is so big where do we begin.

    Race relations, racism, education, employment…its a problem for America as a whole and serperately.

    I have been called militant due to my views on race, but I don’t understand why some of US are so quick to please and/or get the approval of THEM.

    Some will cut the fool amongst Blacks, but will straighten up and fly right around THEM.

    Why and for what?

    Their views will never change about us – never.

    Is there even a resolution to this problem?

    @ Pimpin & NYC…I feel you.

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  • LetsBe4Real

    WTF! First of all can someone tell me why White people try to make Blacks the LAB RATS!?!?! Why do we hear about 70% of black homes without the fathers (which include the homes the DO have the fathers, but aren’t married).. I mean how come we never hear things like 70% of the people that caused the financial meltdown on Wallstreet were WHITE??? How come we don’t talk about 90% of serial killers are WHITE??? And before you talk about the BLACK people in the hood that are drug dealers you need to realize that the White people that live in that neighborhood are also drug dealers.

  • The Sane One

    NACCP is too busy having funerals for the N-word while black people are self medicating with FOOD, liquar, and drugs. It absolutely sickened me at the amont of blacks I saw yesterday just out on the streets of Atl that are obese. When I am at the airport it hurt my shoulders just to have a 20lb carry on bag. I can’t imagine carrying 100lbs 24/7.
    ________

    You are sadly on point, especially with the self-medicating. I know first hand (I hear at least on person daily talk about the bone they’re going to buy or the pills they just popped) how our people are numbing themselves and going nowhere. What gets me is how so many don’t seem to have a plan or a clue. I know not everybody’s a genius the “get a college education” dogma is not a one size fits all. Yet there are other options. Technical school and a part time job could pay the bills/equal spending change and establish good credit. A lot of our people know how to work the system to get benefits without any real survival skills. Simple things like not attending a job interview with the tattoo on the side of your neck visable. Knowing you need to switch up the English when you go on the job. Things that used to be intuitive we’re now making excuses for.

  • John D Hater

    Cracka ass Cracka!!!!

  • c from stl

    i have a problem with black folks and other people always feeling like we have to have a leader to make ourselves better. white people do not have to have a leader to be successful they just do it. and if they don’t do it, their excuse is never ‘we don’t have any strong leaders…’. it disgusts me that we as a people can’t just do better without having someone hold our hands and tell us how to be better. i see our women walking around looking a hot steaming mess. overweight, trifling, unkept, and they seem to not care. i also see our men walking around with an excuse why they can’t do better and alot of it always has to do with the white man. people get a clue! no one told you to have substandard values and wallow in your mess. what the hewl do you think our black leaders of the past worked so hard for? all that marching and protesting so that we could have the right to an education and half of us don’t want to pick up a book. and don’t get me started on money. we came from nothing in this country and Booker T. Washington pushed the idea of a strong work ethic but for some reason we don’t want to get up off our lazy behinds and work for a living. but yet, when our people are in dire circumstances they don’t know how to look in the mirror at their own downfalls…smh…

  • P

    dont agree with pat buchanan on anything. He’s the embodiment of evil. Do a google search or two.

  • About it

    Great posts — esp. Chai at 10:41 a.m.
    With the economic troubles in America, everyone, regardless of race will be “ghetto.” This comment was actually tame by Pat Buchannan’s standards. Good posts everyone.

  • The Sane One

    Yeah, I agree with jb_1030. If a drug dealer or the criminals in those gangs offer what seems to be an opportunity to make $2-3000 a week compaired to $10/hour which is $400/week, what do you think that many of these young black and hispanic men and women will take, especially if they are undereducated and unemployeed.
    ______

    But this is what I don’t get. The money that is supposedly be made so easily is going toward what? They outfit baby mammas and side jaints in Coach, Gucci, and $300 braids. Money goes toward multiple illegit kids. But where are the homes? Where are the cars they OWN? And I’m not talking about a tricked out Caprice either. I feel like this: IF, IF you are going to destroy the community to make ends meet, IF you are going to risk death/jail time at the very least they could have something to show for it? The people with off shore accounts, homes they own, cars they own, taking vacations, etc in the drug game ARE. NOT. BLACK. Many of our men are playing at the bottom on the totem pole with returns that are not comparable to the risk.

  • Smarten up

    Nigerians are some of the most educated and wealthy people in America. Why? Because they believe in education and they push their children to excel. If you don’t get the right education you are doomed to low-earning jobs the rest of your life and that is your own damn fault! Take your dumb ass to school and stop making excuses that’s why i can’t stand these negroes who never speak up about the heinous problems in our communities.

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  • melvin

    That’s Right! We don’t need no damn leader speaking for us like we are children. Be your own leader. be the leader of yourself, your family. We don’t all think alike about social issues because I sure as hell don’t think the way the NaacP do. I believe in self-help and education, self-reliance. And I blame the baby mama, thug mentality for bring us down.

  • The Sane One

    I feel you on that note because all in all we don’t want leaders. I say that because unless someone is shouting about racism, we don’t want to hear what WE have to DO. That’s why the race/poverty pimps stay clear of indicating us in having responsibility in our pitiful state. I remember that firestorm about black fathers over the summer. For somebody to even suggest there is a problem aloud was an abomination. Again if it were a question of leaders I would say a large majority have no use for such an idea anyway. And I agree we shouldn’t need them at this stage in the game.

  • tg

    The way I look at it – is no one White or Black has that much room to be talking about anyone else. Each individual must stand up and claim what they want. It can be achieved – although it seems there are an abundance of obstacles to get through. And people, education, as far as reading and writing is YOUR FRIEND. After you achieve those goals, you can read anything you want – including history that started before SLAVES. It’s very uplifting to the soul.

  • c from stl

    @melvin

    Thank you!

  • c from stl

    what kills me is that this problem exists in AMERICA! The land of the free! a place where capitalism exists and every man has the opportunity to make it as long as the hard work and diligence is there. In other countries you have people who aren’t allowed to read and excel and have what we do. It just amazes me…Drugs killed our communities single handedly because you have to be on something to not see what is out there and do better than this. people get out of the ghetto and let go of that ghetto mentality because it will literally kill you!

  • GoodKarma4Me

    I think I missed that incident….what is that all over Pat’s face??

  • Its6amHoGetOut

    As the smartest and most interesting person on Bossip this topic warrants my input; First, f*ck Pat Buchanan. When you have people like Tyler Perry who constantly scoop up low grade sh*t and sell it to lower income and education people you breed more ignorance. Tyler knows his market and he’s comfortable asking people who can ill afford it to support his coonfest, somebody let me know when Tyler donates some of those multi-millions back into the inner cities which support his sh*tty product.

    Mothers stop letting your kids watch something as f*cked up as BET while youre on the phone with Shameka for 5 hours talkin’ about that new n*gga she met then f*cked last night. How about you check their homework, sit them at the table and read with them or go for a walk……….

    Theres not one reason in the world why any sane, smart, employed or married black woman should watch the new season of Real Housewives of Atlanta, what, you need to see where ghetto ass, nappy weave, saggy titty, loud as f*ck, dumb NeNe is living now that the whole country saw her ass get evicted for non payment of rent?

  • Its6amHoGetOut

    love 6am

  • Kaviani

    “The statistics regarding the education and employment of our youth continues to boggle the mind.”

    First off, you’re assuming everything this crazy old fool is citing is 100% accurate. You can prove any point you want by citing statistics. 57% of all people know that.

    Second, he says NOTHING about the rich, white-owned corporations and businesses that are giving jobs to all these terrible illegals. If the gov’t had the pair to force these companies to pay all employees a proper, full-time living wage, there would be minimal hiring of illegals. The systems benefits the very rich and desperately poor and does nothing for the average citizen.

  • Glorious Gloria

    Will someone explain to me how the Nigerians can immigrate to this country and in less than a generation they are as wealthy as the South Asians and some of the most educated people in America? Well, it certainly can’t be because of race can it NAACP and Eric Holder? Because these are real BLACK people. The answer, because they are intelligent enough not to want the government to take care of them. Because they are shrewd enough not to blame your race on every damn thing that happens to you. Holder and the NAACP are the types of folks who are totally obsessed with White people. If the sun don’t shine they blame white people, if our kids can’t read they blame black people, if we don’t want to get educated they blame white people. Sometimes I truly believe that NAACP and the other talented 10th mentality Black people, want the majority of us to stay poor ans stupid just so they can stay in charge. Holder and his ilk don’t give a damn about poor black folks and they are never willing to tell poor black people the truth about what it takes to improve their lives. They still thinking in the 1960′s. Enough of that pity me bullshit.

  • HF

    With the global economy in the toilet, unemployment and poverty has just become a new condition 2 a whole lot of white folks. I wonder what Buchanan will say when the pathologies that r “associated” with certain black folks start 2 become more commonplace among whites?

    Is he gonna give ‘em the bootstrap lecture?

  • c from stl

    @Glorious Gloria

  • c from stl

    @Glorious Gloria

    CHUUUUUUUURCH….

  • datdude92

    Black leaders? who would that be, and what would they lead? The black community? I’m going to let you in on a little seceret, For the most part there is no such thing as the black community. Econoics gdetermine a community. In poor communities their focus is individually based. In middle-class communites you find people focused on imporving the educatuonal system for the children, This is where the community exist. Of you have no economic power you do not have a voice in your community. So show me a place where blacks own the businesses and the shops and the homes in the neighborhood and I will show you a community. If the want to compare economic plight of blacks compare them in like communites. Compore the poor communites mainly inhabited by blacks with the poor communites mainly inhabited by whites. These areas also have 20% unemployment rates, high dropout rates, and a large number of single parent homes. Who is going to lead these people, Pat. Now these people have left beer for meth and like crack it is destroying their communities. Are you going to led them Pat.

    Please get hip to the divide and conquer hustle! Old but it still works. Remember, it wasn’t until Dr king started bring the issue of the working poor by working with unionsto light that he was asassinated.

  • Walter

    Most of the horrible things that happen enmasse to the Black community happened under the watch of people like Eric Holder and the inane policies of the NAACP. The NAACP convinced the media and the government that they were the only voice of Black America. Only their policies of governmental interference in our lives is the only way. That welfare was okay, that Black fathers were not necessary in the homes which ultimately led to the break down of the Black family. They know they screwed up but they will never admit to it so they still try to cloud the issue and keep the poor and ignorant riled up about race. We should be riled up about education and economics. We should be riled up about ridding our midst of the self-hating Black thugs. We should be riled up about baby mamas reproducing kids they don’t take care of or want. They absent fathers who discard their children like a used condoms. No Holder, you and the NAACP need to fall back because we did if your way and look at the mess it brought us. Look at the hard-working, hard-studying Nigerians for inspiration, not the NAACP and the Eric Holder’s who have white folks on the brain so much so that it distorts their way of thinking.

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @LetsBe4Real,

    “(which include the homes the DO have the fathers, but aren’t married).”

    This isnt good enough for black children. They need to be raised by married couples. I will not accept anything less.

  • Coop

    @Bossip

    How is Bill “Uncle Ruckus” Cosby helping by bad mouthing his own????

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @Walter

    What do you mean by NAACP policies? They dont have any. They dont make or pass laws.

  • Chillin@Work

    Black this black that—-BLAH BLAH BLAH— People need to start taking responsibility for themselves—there are so many opportunities out there—Stop BULLSHITTING about race—and get off your ass and take RISK!! It’s that simple—Stop dwelling on the damn past and MOVE FORWARD!!! gzzzzzzzzzzzzz sick of black people especially Americans…… All the imigrants that migrate here- manage to do start up business- especially the Asians….

  • African-proud of it

    The real problem that needs to be adressed is a lack of eduaction not immigrants , these people are doing jobs that no one wants to do and go to school at the same time whilst working two or three jobs and suporting the daughter and families overseas they just trying to make a dollar to feed other people among black people we glorify not going to school , drinking drugs, we toss hardwork and schooling out side the window and we call it been hard its sad. Geta degree and job or start your investment firm and stunt on everybody by been stable without talking about it

  • This I Know

    Lets face it: the NAACP/Jesse Jackson/Al Sharpton and the rest of the old negro brigade are no longer seen as relevant to the black community, especially blacks under 40. thank goodness for blogs because we can have our own voices heard online.

  • p-luv

    WTF is on dude’s face?

  • curtis

    NAACP and the Holder types have always exerted pressure on politicians, extolling poor Black people with the help of their pimping preachers in their neighborhoods to vote for certain people. The NAACP pushed for welfare and for the government to hold our hands for the last 40odd years and look where that disaster ended. I agree, with others who stated we don’t need anymore ego-maniac, self-styled emperor leaders manipulating poor Black people. Walking around with a kingdom in their heads and they are the rulers. Chasing after the media cameras and sprouting off like what they have to say is the highest law that we should all abide. Be your own leader; of yourself and your family.

  • p-luv

    I don’t know if it’s me or not but doesn’t it seem like white people have gotten angrier and bitter? I step outside and go about my day and I seem to catch attitude a lot from them lately.

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @The Sane One,

    ” I remember that firestorm about black fathers over the summer. For somebody to even suggest there is a problem aloud was an abomination.”

    Actually it has been open season on black fathers and fathers in general for a while. There will be a REAL fire storm when they talk about the responsibility of black mothers for most of the problems in the community. Its been taboo to talk about the poor decisions made by black females in deciding to have children while they were unwed, uneducated and poor. Considering the more than a doze forms of birthcontrol…

    When someone has the courage to actually say that in public, I predict Armageddeon will follow shortly there after.

  • http://Bossip Soul Ese

    @ Coop
    Sometimes it takes bad mouthing your own to get them to see through the haze. Bill Cosby makes very valid points when he talks about the state of Black America today and he has been bringing it to our attention whether his views were popular or not. Those that tend to be his most vocal detractors most likely feel that he is addressing them.

    @CHIA you’re right that most illegal immigrants are not true immigrants. As a Mestizo (Mexican/Puerto Rican descent) I can whole heartedly one hundred percent state that my ancestors never immigrated to the Americas….we were already here. The Christians (Spaniards)that came to rape and pillage our land were the immigrants, along with all the other races and religions that followed along with their “belongins”.

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @curtis,

    Seriously, no one forced black folks to take welfare. Again you continue to paternalize black people and then blame the NAACP for paternalizing black people. I understand you are on welfare after a job loss, or economic depression, or a death in the family or even divorce but there exist generational public assistance use in the black community. Mom was on welfare, now her daughters are on welfare and he daughters will be on welfare. Cant blame the NAACP for that.

  • Dushawn

    Maybe not, but you can blame the NAACP for fostering a victimization mentality in the Black community. And the NAACP did always promote welfare for poor blacks back in the Johnson administration.

  • Hard-working woman

    Everytime a dumb ass rapper open their foolish mouths they bad mouth their own. Yet you think that when someone tells you the truth who think they are a uncle ruckus? Sad, just sad.

  • Hard-working woman

    I mean “you think they…

  • Diamante

    My parents are Jamican immigrants and im in college now and they have done VERY well for themselves. I was shocked to go to my grandmas house and see that she doesnt even have running water in 2009. My parents come from nothin and have made it here which means as racist and mean as whiteys are, u cant be here forever and not have shit. That makes no sense. I know black guys who are in college and still selling drugs. Granted college is so damn expensive it makes u wanna sell drugs but its just the notion that they are helping and killing themselves at the same time and I just don’t get it.

  • Glok9n: The real glok !!!

    WE BAJANZ ON A ROLL HERE TODAY…BIG UP ERIC HOLDER HOLD US DOWN ….@OCEAN GAL WE MAY NOT BE RUNNING THE WORLD YET,…BUT WE RUNNING BOSSIP TODAY!

  • http://myspace.com/mahoganyrouge Black.Woman

    Eric Holder is on point. There needs to be self responsibility on the part of black folks.

  • Glok9n: The real glok !!!

    @DIAMANTE! GAL YOU COME FROM YARD AND CANT SPELL JAMAICA…GAL I SHOULD GIVE SOME LASHES FOR THAT!

  • free

    valedictorian at morehouse last year was WHITE. now you know that’s a damn shame.

  • Diamante

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOO srry i was jus typin and not thinkin.

  • Damn

    That was long. Now I gotta get back to work.

  • http://gallery.me.com/silkyj#100088 Txhustla15 (Another Day Down in the ATX)

    @free

    valedictorian at morehouse last year was WHITE. now you know that’s a damn shame.

    - that cat was blacker than plenty of folk , ‘sides was chosen as valedictorian by his peers which is the majority black population – been going to black schools all his life and always had been living around the way. You might want to read that story cause he turned down full ride to Columbia to goto to Morehouse.

    @ Black.Woman
    Eric Holder is on point. There needs to be self responsibility on the part of black folks.

    * You aint lying , Holder is dead on – swear some folk I know are still waiting to be saved instead of getting on their grind and looking after theirs..

  • DR.FUNK

    @KIGALI:

    Actually it has been open season on black fathers and fathers in general for a while. There will be a REAL fire storm when they talk about the responsibility of black mothers for most of the problems in the community. Its been taboo to talk about the poor decisions made by black females in deciding to have children while they were unwed, uneducated and poor. Considering the more than a doze forms of birthcontrol…

    When someone has the courage to actually say that in public, I predict Armageddeon will follow shortly there after.

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Here Here…

  • DR.FUNK

    Buchanan is a strange cat.Sometimes he hits the mark with clear-eyed analysis.(like here) Other times he goes loose cannon with the race/gender baiting.I know part of a pundits’ job is to be provocative.His act is just bi-polar.

  • DR.FUNK

    Holder is stuck in the 70′s.

  • http://Bossip.com The Scholar

    Black MEN need to use birth control! We need to impress upon young girls, teens & young women that babies create problems not solutions to catching men. When we don’t see others reading, we should be aware that they probably don’t know how to read – offer to teach/help them learn to read. Those that cannot read, think they are putting something over on the rest of us. They are hurting themselves (i.e. discouraging others who are trying to learn, skipping school, “raising” babies that they are unqualaified to raise, etc.). We have to stop whining, give up being in denial, stop feeling sorry for ourselves, and blaming our color for the pitfalls in our lives. We are our own worst enemies!!

  • c from stl

    @The Scholar

    I agree…it’s definitely a two way street when it comes to responsibility…

  • Anonymous

    Pat can quote STATISTICS all day long about the Black community….does it make you feel good Pat? Instead of quoting statistics, what should be done about it. Better yet let’s discuss the reason’s WHY some Black communities are at a disadvantage. Even if the statistics are accurate it doesn’t justify racism. The NY Post using the oldest steryotype around and painting Blacks as Monkey’s. Eric Holder was right…..Let’s talk about it, get it off your chest, be honest how you feel “White America”.

  • Shawne08

    There are dummies in every race….Whites that have no education…Nigerians that have no education…Latinos with no education…Blacks with no education….and the list goes on…. So give me a break on BRING A BLACK PERSON DOWN by making them feel inferior to all others….

    You are responsible for your own family. My family comes from a long line of college students, grads, upper grads and some phds…. AND WE ARE BLACK….

    I’m proud to be Black!!! FIGHT THE POWER! I’M BLACK AND I’M PROUD!

  • Shawne08

    Bossip is some BULL SHIT…

  • always knew

    I would say that Mr. Holder is absolutely correct…But we don’t need anybody to tell us what to do..Blk people, themselves, know when we have giving up on trying for ore. This system if values begins at HOME. Parents REALLY are responsible for what happens to their children…

    What you instill, is what comes out. If all you care about is getting him the new Jordans, bet his focus is just that, on those new Jordans.

    If his focus is on aviation, encourage it, help it grow, imvest in you child. Take him to the museums, trips to learn about who he is. What values hold true for your family. Teach him. Nurture him, without coddling him. Have his mother,father,family show him the correct way, before he gets involved with all that street crap. STAY INVOLVED. Be as close as possible,to your child.Don’t let them become another statistic…

    In 2 more years, I am having Forte profiles, done on my children. These type of tests are all about finding the child’s strengths and weakenesses.Then they take those strengths and tests, to let you know what their personality is, what they lean strongest to, and finally it tells where their strengths, the different professions, and where they think the child will be the happiest. …
    Guaranteed, you’ll have a winner on your hands.

    I did the Forte test when I first started my businesses, years ago, the test was REALLY accurate. Everything that came as easy and self-explanatory was revealed to me, in my Forte reading..

    Additionally, I think when you’re kids see you work HARD and provide, it instills it in them, but ultimately No government can do your job.

    I applaud Mr. Holder for his comments, but we need to do more than talk, about these issues, we need to do something..For example, the other day in Philadelphia, PA JUDGES were found guilty for putting kids in lock-up for cash. Thay all pleaded guilty..Well , this has been going on for years. How about keeping your child out of the system….Why do we let other people take responsibility for our children? How did we let these statistics get so high? There is no reason for illiteratcy

    Somebody isn’t doing their job….I have hope for blk Americnas, but I don’t even think, we (on a whole), even care anymore….

  • Shawne08

    They erased my message…I’M BLACK AND I’M PROUD!

  • one_last_hurrah

    the truth of the matter is, far too
    many black people don’t want to
    assume responsibility for their OWN
    lives.

    there was a great documentary a few
    years ago, about a small group of
    brothers who banded together as
    teenagers, and swore that they would
    all become doctors, and succeeded.

    they came FROM THE HOOD — but “hood
    values” were not part of their psyche.

    people have to WANT to do better, and
    have to be DETERMINED to do better —
    otherwise, you can drop a billion dollars
    into the inner city and it will all
    come to nought.

    i HAVE volunteered and worked with what
    the system calls “at risk” youth, and
    from my OWN experience, MOST of those kids’
    biggest deficit was absent fathers, and
    in many cases overwhelmed mothers.

    no matter what you do, if that child has
    to go home to a parent who JUST DOESN’T
    GET IT, there is almost nothing that you
    can do to change his circumstances.

    i wish that all these stories could be
    success stories, but the bitter truth
    is there IS such a thing as UNFIT PARENTS —
    no matter how you want to sugar coat it.

  • always knew

    In addition to the 7 million illegals holding jobs, legal immigrants have another 15 million. In 2008, when Americans lost 3.5 million jobs, 144,000 immigrants were admitted every month.

    Why do we have an open-borders immigration policy that annually allows in millions, legal and illegal, to compete for jobs, when 10 million Americans are out of work and half a million are losing their jobs every month? The political correctness and moral cowardice of our Lords Temporal, who refuse to call a time-out on immigration until our own people go back to work, is killing the American dream for millions.

    ______________________________________________

    I see this everyday. I currently reside in Az. I see blks everyday without a job…When I first came out here in 2000, I would see blks always walking up and down the streets. I worked 2 jobs until I started my business. I went to school and higher learning and graduated. I still worked 2-3 jobs. I wanted to make sure that I had what I needed, so I didn’t have to ask my parents for anything. I didn’t want to be a burden. Before I started my businesses, I would be working on a construction job site and blk men would often approach and tell me that they couldn’t do the work. But would still ask me to lend the, $20.
    I still laugh thinking about it..Only in this country, would someone come up to you,ask for money/help and criticize you while doing it….

    I also realized during this same time period that many blk people would end up with shopping carts, because they don’t feel as though they have to do anything….I quit my job, one day after working both jobs, with a degree and hubby came home and told me that while I was working and getting my benefits that came with the job,getting paid every 2 weeks, that he had just closed a cconstruction clean-up. It was for $7,700 for 3 days of work. I still remember that day. I was SO pissed that I’d spent YEARS working and he came, just like that and closed me, out. I immediately quit, that day. Threw myself into learning everything about construction-demolition, rehabbing commerical and industrial spaces, governement contracts, etc..

    My clean-ups after that went from $65K-$200,000. contracts, per contract.. I have never regretted doing my own thing..Now I just have to get this paralegal office off the ground, and I will be leaving the U.S.

    Barack’s changes regarding small business, to me is not acceptable and I will NOT be giving ALL my hard earned cash to the government. Sorry. I will be out of here in less than 6 months..:)

    According to the census, as reported in The New York Times on Saturday, 97 percent of immigrants from Mexico do not speak English at home. They are less skilled and less educated than the average American.

    Says demographer William Frey, “The new immigration magnets especially in the Southwest are disproportionately attracting young Mexican men who are willing to accept low wages.”

    What further proof is needed that mass immigration from the Third World is taking jobs from Americans and driving down their wages when they do find work?
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    They will work for $5 per hour. Or at least that’s what it was going for in 2004. I thought I was doing alot paying people $13-$15 per hour, plus benefits, 401K and $100 bonuses, every other week, if you get compliments and keep the clients happy…

    You can employ there whole family- Mom, Dad, Brother, Sister,Cousin, AUnt, Uncles for less than $1500.00 for the whole group. That’s working 10 hour days and bonuses…it was really cheap for a while….Until you start to care about the quality of the work…That’s when you switch back to American…

  • always knew

    * sorry for the typos, I didn;t go back to read or correct the inaccurate grammar…*:)

  • Macho-In-Paris-France

    HE IS RIGHT: Acting in “black” is a problem for black americans. Acting “black” means: criminals,thieves… Why if someone tells the truth to police, he is called a snitch? That’s a beginning of “black” illness.

  • http://www.bossip.com MizCatwalk20

    Bossip this has to be one of the most informative pieces on here! It is true that alot of illegal immigrants come over here and take the jobs that Americans should have. I’ve heard alot of people say that we do not have those particular jobs, because we are not willing to work for that minimum wage. That’s exactly right! Do you know how hard construction working is? Do you think it’s fair that they work they’re asses off only to get paid $6.00 an hour? The United States Govt has always been about the perservation of themselves. You damn right i shouldnt have to work out in the hot sun all day long and then get a paid not even 5% of the amount that the man in the White construction hat who is not doing shit but giving orders, is taking home. Should we as blacks become more aware? Well yes. That problem lies within our own homes, communities and last but not least, ourselves. There are alot of grants and scholarships out here that make it so that, that child of color can infact go to school and live out the American dream. But they have to be hungry enough to get out there and do what is best. It starts right there in the home. It doesnt matter if you live in the ghetto or if you live in the suburbs. Black parents need to start better educating their kids. Instead of raising them based soley on your experience rather it be injustice, racism, wealth, or poverty, encourage them to think on their own. That despite the fact that those very things are still prevelant throughout the U.S, they have the power! I can go on and on with this subject…. If we raise our kids to get as excited about education as they do about Jordans and name branded clothing, we just might be able to make a change.

  • blaq

    I get so sick and tired of these meaningless statistics, 50% of a drop out rate in SOME high schools, but 85% of Black american have high school diplomas. Blah, Blah, Blah….

    lets discuss the type of employment available to white america that is not available to black america, and hispanic america. The problem is there are no longer production jobs in america, we don’t make anything here in this country, thus robbing ourselves of valuable resources and economic stability. What happen to all of the factory jobs, what in your house was produced in America? Not even the building supplies in a newer home. We want the bicker about service jobs being taken by immigrants when we should be concentrating on small businesses and keeping the dollars in the country generating tax revenues, stable incomes, increased spending, stronger families, safer communities, decrease economic dependency, lower national debt. Renew interest in things like art, music, philosophy, science, you get the picture.

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @c from stl,

    Actually it isnt a two way street because babies come out of vaginal canals not penis holes.

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @blaq,

    Oh dear. Those jobs werent going to last forever. Do you see family farms anymore? No. Do you see family blacksmiths anymore, no. We moved on, our economy has moved on, our education has moved on. So black need to get educational skills for jobs that we do have instead of whinging about lost jobs. Economies, lose certain types of jobs but create others. Prepare yourself for the future.

    Or set around and wait for black psuedo intellectuals such as yourself talk about irrelevant bullshit.

  • free

    @free

    valedictorian at morehouse last year was WHITE. now you know that’s a damn shame.

    - that cat was blacker than plenty of folk , ’sides was chosen as valedictorian by his peers which is the majority black population – been going to black schools all his life and always had been living around the way. You might want to read that story cause he turned down full ride to Columbia to goto to Morehouse.

    ********************************************

    i know the story and I know someone that knows him personally. still a testament though.

  • blaq

    @ Kigali

    You say the dumbest shit trying to sound intelligent. Farms and blacksmiths? There are still farms who do you think produce the corns and soybeans the largest american crops, the world has graduated to producing organic lettuce without dirt using hydroponic cultivation for one, do you have furniture, appliances in your home, clothes on your back and so on, someone has a job in another country producing those items, the jobs have not disappeared they have been relocated to other countries. while people are griping about labor jobs being taken by immigrants what about production jobs. There is the ability for black people to produce all the clothing they buy and take advantage of their trendsetter status. The education has not moved on if we are talking about people with eight grade educations living on welfare, unemployment. We have the labor, now create the industry. If we can produce computer chips we can produce everything else.

  • c from stl

    @Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @c from stl,

    Actually it isnt a two way street because babies come out of vaginal canals not penis holes.

    ___________________________________________________

    Well if it wasn’t a two way street we would be able to asexually produce and wouldn’t need men for anything. If it wasn’t for the penis penetrating the woman she wouldn’t have a live baby to push out of her birth canal 9 months later….that’s junior high school level of human sexuality….come on kigali….I was agreeing with alot of what you were saying early on but you can’t seem to understand that men and woman are both responsible for their future and for the future of the children brought into this world….sheesh!

  • Solo

    Nobody points out that most illegals are not giving health care benefits, social security, pay taxes, receive income tax refunds. This being that we (greedy) Americans who employ these people would rather pay someone less under the table so we wouldn’t pay these as we would claim mandatory things as Americans we should receive. So in other words the son might not find a job because he won’t work for less, but the dad won’t pay for health care benefits, Sick days etc because he’s too cheap and would rather enjoy the profits of such bad business. Yes America.. we are the definition of Hypocrite

  • blaq

    @ C from stl

    All reasonable people understand two people are responsible in the conception and care of a a child. Anyone who is looking to place blame solely on either side is ignorant. While people are going to give more credit to the parent who physically cares for the child vs. the one who provides no support, no one has sympathy for women who don’t learn and correct past errors in judgement and continue to have multiple children that require public financial assistance, but they are in the minority to working single mothers who should have financial support from the fathers regardless of the relationship, plenty of men pay child support just like plenty of mothers work so i don’t think anyone should be let off the hook. but ultimately all children are precious blessings from God, so the shoulda woulda coulda’s are counterproductive more emphasis should be placed on raising healthy children regardless of your marital status or economic situation, being a single parent is not a crime, being poor is not the worst thing you can be, and both can be temporary situations if you have your head on straight.

  • c from stl

    @kigali

    What do you think of octomom?…

  • c from stl

    @blaq

    Exactly. Even if every single black woman in this world was walking around with her head on straight and perfect and without flaw the fabric of our community would still be torn if the black men weren’t doing the same and willing to be better…smh

  • blaq

    @ c

    Right but I don’t play the blame game. I don’t see the Black Woman vs. the Black man, collectively we need improvement, and it has to end with the blame game. I see mothers and fathers go at it without one thought to the affect it is having on the child, how this is molding their relationship skills and values. Black women can’t talk about black men in a solely negative light and they have sons in the house. And black men with daughters who bounce from woman to woman not seeking anyone respectable companions is showing her no example of how she should be treated or their sons how to treating a woman well is treating yourself well and letting a hoodrat take you out of your grown man steez by not treating women with respect. How you treat people depends on the pride you have in yourself, those who disrespect and mistreat others don’t hold themselves to a higher standard of conduct thus commanding respect vs. trying to get it my force or intimidation.

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @Blaq,

    Yes farms still exist but the majority of the world is mechanized. They dont need as many human hands as before. Thank god for that because food would be dam expensive. Likewise thank god for mechanized clothe manufacturing. How expensive would our clothing be if the grandma down the street was making it? Very expensive. When things are done cheaper, faster with less human input, we get discounts at the store.

    “The education has not moved on if we are talking about people with eight grade educations living on welfare, unemployment.”

    Yes education has moved on. Those adults with an eight grade education hasnt. When Pat said that he wasnt talking about the quality of education, he was talking about blacks not being educated. There is a difference. Shouldnt you be talking about all the factors that contribute to single parent homes in the black community? I imagine the sun having risen today is probably one among many.

    “We have the labor, now create the industry. If we can produce computer chips we can produce everything else.”

    Do you know the implications of technological advancement? We certainly do have the labor but the better we become at things the less labor we will need. That is why black folks are going to have to refocus their education. How about Engineering?

  • Razzell Dazzell

    I’m perturbed right now. The truth comes out…he didn’t mention any of the PWT’s of the world, any Caucasian statistics, it’s a shame because he really thought he “told us.” Please! Everyone do your own research…Mr. B@tch, B for short can’t tell me about my experience..he doesn’t understand the disparity that exist between cultures, classes etc..he’ll never understand. Through the greatest effort to divide and conquer he must salute an African American president…and thus he can go to hell!

  • c from stl

    @blaq

    Oh trust me, I agree with you wholeheartedly and I don’t play the blame game either. I was just addressing kigali’s distorted comments about black females. We do need to unite and stop seperating ourselves from each other yelling back and forth about whose fault it is for everything. Once both sexes realize that they are both equally responsible for the outcome of our future then things will take a turn for the better.

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @c from stl,

    Yes yes yes. Men and women are both responsible but women are more responsible than men. They get pregnant, they get to decide when men become fathers. If men we able to get abortions, many of them would. It isnt eqaul because God didnt want it that way. Therefore, women should take extra care that she makes babies with the right men.

    I am glad I didnt marry a child molester because frankly… I am not interested in my children being molested. See how that works? When you want something for your children, you plan.

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @c from stl,

    Regarding Ocotoman, she is clearly sick in the head. Regarding most black females, they too are clearly sick in the head.

  • c from stl

    @kigali

    I agree with you on responsible activity and family planning. My husband and I don’t have any children yet because we choose not to. But I can honestly tell you that whenever we do choose to have children he will feel just as equally responsible for their future and not just a sperm donor to aide in their existence. My point is that it doesn’t matter if the woman is smart or dumb, when you get done it’s basic science that says that men are necessary to create life and thus need to be around to sustain it. Even if you do have a stupid female who makes bad decisions, the idiot that she got pregnant by is just as responsible because he was the idiot that got her pregnant. Thus you have two idiots not just the female idiot…

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @blaq,

    Men have, since like forever, wanted easy sex. Back in the day, we conquered the tribe next to us and captured their women. When we became modern soceities with the rule of law and human rights, men who wanted easy sex had to pay for it. Today, men dont have to pay for it because women have become dumber than the local prostitute. Atleast the prostitute will have something to show for it when it is all said and done.

    From this point on, women must distinguish themselves from whores and not give themselves so freely. This will have a major civilizing effect on men.

    Lastly women cant carry themselves like men with regard to children. Its why men can keep more than one home/wife/family and women cant. Be in touch with your nature as a woman and your life will be much easier.

  • c from stl

    @kigali

    But Octomom is doing the exact same thing that you constantly blame black females for. Getting pregnant with these innocent children without a husband and using the system to take care of them. Unfortunately there are many more women with her complexion doing the same thing but the media chooses to focus in on us…I saw a young girl on the Tyra show who wanted to get pregnant and when Tyra asked her how she was going to take care of the baby she said without taking a breath ‘welfare’…and guess what, she wasn’t black…

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @c from stl,

    You know the female idiot has recourse to more than a dozen anti idiot devices while the male idiot only has recourse to one. To add to that, if worst comes to worst the female idiot has an emergency anti idiot device that is widely available to her.

  • Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @c from stl,

    Ok, ocotmom is one woman with an exceptional case. How do you compare her to 70% of black mothers doing that shit? you cant. and octomom doesnt come from a community that has been ravaged by the practice. Lets get some prespective here. I have to go.

  • blaq

    @ Kigali

    no one said anything about grandma down the street. The same clothing production techniques they use in China can be used in mississippi, you still need labor no matter what your are producing. There are factory workers right here in the Bay Area putting together keyboards and the like. You mean to tell me those same type of factories cannot be used to produce furniture, clothing, etc. Other countries do, this country still does on a small level.

    “Shouldnt you be talking about all the factors that contribute to single parent homes in the black community?” I know you feel this is the only issue worth discussion, but…

    Sure I believe it is the lack of blue collar jobs leading to the destruction of working class families. men who can financially provide for their families create stronger households, when daddy can’t pay the bills he’s more inclined to leave and suffer on his own then to withstand the disgrace of not being able to provide for his woman and children.

    Again, some individuals are going to strive for higher education, others just seek a living wage. This discussion was about illegal immigrants taking jobs from americans, these are not skilled jobs requiring college degrees and journeyman level skills, these are labor jobs, regardless of the technology there will still be labor needed someone to run the machinery clothes are still produced on sewing machines trucks are still loaded with man operated forklifts, the labor i describe is currently today and the foreseeable future still very relevant.

  • c from stl

    @Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    You know the female idiot has recourse to more than a dozen anti idiot devices while the male idiot only has recourse to one. To add to that, if worst comes to worst the female idiot has an emergency anti idiot device that is widely available to her.

    ____________________________________________________

    So since the male idiot only has recourse to one anti-idiot device then it should be easy for them to obtain and use it without problem as they don’t have much to think about or many options to weight with their body by putting a foreign chemical into it …. Or, we could just simply start giving vasectomies to these male idiots…like I said, it’s a two way street.

  • c from stl

    @Kigali (Birth control until marriage)

    @c from stl,

    Ok, ocotmom is one woman with an exceptional case. How do you compare her to 70% of black mothers doing that shit? you cant. and octomom doesnt come from a community that has been ravaged by the practice. Lets get some prespective here. I have to go.

    ____________________________________________________

    Please believe there are statistics for other races they just choose not to release them. I’m not saying that our statistic isn’t staggering b/c it is and it’s actually kind of depressing. But I can guarantee you that there are plenty of statistics in the non-black communities that are not studied. Every statistic you hear nowadays is geared toward the poor, disadvantaged or ethnic groups….there is a reason for this…

  • blaq

    @ Kigali

    Men want easy sex, women want easy sex. The great majority of all married couples were having sex long before they decided to get married. in many cases marriage was not even on the table until a pregnancy was in affect. Black men marry less than anyone else, black women marry more than black men. This is not because they can get the milk for free, because there is free milk everywhere in every community. Men marry because they socially want the status among their peers, married men are hired more and promoted more often and business wise considered more stable. People who are financially strained are more likely not to marry, people who do not have health care are more likely to rely on condoms. Women are hormonally designed to seek pregnancy, we are wired male and female to reproduce weather it is financially safe or not.

  • baeyaki

    cant be mad at Pat…spoke the truth!

  • baeyaki

    blaq, I respect your opinion but that really was a bunch of excuses dressed up as reasons…

  • http://Bossip MonMon

    NYCinVA

    I don’t understand the point of racing to see who can be “1st”. What do you do, wait on a post just to add a comment before you can even read it??? Anyway, I digress….I could care less about what white people think of me (or other minorities, for that matter). However, I am concerned that black parents and community/political leaders can’t seem to keep a large percentage of our youth from dropping out of school and becoming a burden to society. WE have to figure that out…We do not need white America to be our “friends” for us to realize that we have a duty to look out for our own best interest, just as they have done all these years. Black people are too concerned about white America when most of white america could care less about our issues. It saddens me that a Mexican immigrant comes to this country and is willing to work hard anywhere that is willing to give him/her a chance but a young black man thinks that certain jobs are beneath him and would rather sell crack to his own people (destroying his own community in the process)! It’s time to wake up people! I will get off my soap box now!

    I SO AGREE WITH YOU 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING..I MEAN EVERYTHING YOU WROTE IS SO SO TRUE.

  • J

    And what exactly are all you doing to better the situation? You should NEVER agree with someone like Pat Buchanan because there are several hundred reasons things are the way they are. Instead of saying “yeah, yeah, Pat, we agree with you”, why aren’t you going out and helping the situation? People who have been let down their whole life have a hard time pulling themselves up. Instead of putting a people down…try building them up sometime…and see what a difference that makes.

  • Tee

    P.B. is a known republican commentator.

    I’d like to know why he feels that immigration is the cause of blacks and hispanics not having jobs. How about leagally enforcing schooling up to HS level? How about asking why Blacks and hispanics shpould be the ones working in the fields picking oranges, and not ask why Blacks and Hispanics are not being educated enough not to HAVE to take those routes to support themselves?

    Oh and how about spreading the WEALTH of this country so that not only the top 2% of the population hold 80% of this nations money so that the rest of us wouldn’t have to fight for their left overs?

    Yeah..how about that?

  • Tee

    Well J.

    Ignorance is a mutherfkka.
    These are unfortunately the same people that would vote for President O, for the simple reason that he’s black.
    Did you know.. and this is INCREDIBLY embarrassing to admit..that there was a ‘poll’ made by a well know radio host, in Harlem weeks before the election.
    People were stopped and asked about Pres. Obama and why they’d vote for him. Obviously almost everyone said because he was black.
    What is scarier was that they were then presented with the policies advocated by McCain’s camp, and a VAST MAJORITY, agreed with it. Not knowing the difference between the two..

    Now ain’t that a bitch??

  • The Roc

    Buchanan used a straw man to distract from a valid point by Holder about the lack of interaction among blacks and white beyond the more structured confines of the workplace.

    Companies hire the cheapest labor regardless of nationality. It is coming back to haunt them because our economy is built on consumption and people have less discretionary income and job security to finance purchases.

  • ThinkFirstGirl

    Buchanan is right. All those statistics are correct. We no encourage our children to get the best out of their education. We sit around complaining that American education is only european-centered and contains no mention of African-American contributions.

    Well, we are living in America and this is the culture you need to be proficient in in order to pass the SAT’s; to pass a school exam; to pass a college exam. We live in America and have free public education and we black people still complain about access to knowledge.

    Learn what the teach you in school, be better at it than white children; outdo them in every academic endeavour and then we’ll erase the statistics that Mr. Buchanan so rightly throws in our collective faces.

  • saffi

    The POOREST

  • saffi

    The poorest people in the United States are WHITE females between the ages of 17 and 21. Where is the analysis on this group of folks!>!>!>!????

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