…so what….

So sick of TMZ being used as a accurate news source.

“The rumors in circulation are false. There are no emails between Ms. Davis and Mr. Brown of the type which have been described in media reports.”

Email? Maybe I’m just looking too hard, but it looks like they purposely wrote that instead of “text” message…

Womp Womp I’m so done with posts about this…

Hi Re!

Chris Brown looks like an older version of my son.

I am so damm sleepy, I am going to have to get of cup of gasoline from Starbucks.

….hmmm…..good point Re………

@ Sickofitt!

They use TMZ…cuz TMZ has spies every where. LOL Even in the ppl’s homes.

I am so damm sleepy, I am going to have to get of cup of gasoline from Starbucks.
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LMAO!!!

@ RE
i agree

@Aunt Viv

Hey girl! Hows that wedding planning coming along?

@Colonel and Ms Meca

I could be stretching it a bit though…I’ve been around chronic liars and they do stuff like that…switch up the words.

@ ‘SICKOFITT” and he looks like a YOUNGER version of my boyfriend.

Chris needs to go away for awhile, then come back with some soul searching music

@ Re,
Girl, planning has hit a bit of a snag…we’ve been so shook about the economy (there have been layoffs at my job) we’ve had to scale down considerably, and we actually moved the date

AND THE LATE AZ HELL!

Well, I don’t think Chris Brown will be winning anymore awards period…..and neither will Rhi’s dumbass. You know things are bad if the white folks are talking about them. They have been all over CNN debating these two.

@kahmmillion

@ Sickofitt!

They use TMZ…cuz TMZ has spies every where. LOL Even in the ppl’s homes.
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RRRIIIGGGHHHTTT!!! I can be a source to if TMZ is paying good. I need a new Louie V bag. I can make some sh!t up with the quickness. Hell, my sister stank azz than slept with damm near everybody in Black Hollyweird so I can at least say I met such and such. TmZ is getting their info from the dude standing behind them in line at the KFC or the ticket taker at the airport.

April 6th can’t come soon enough.

@Aunt Viv

Boooo…I’m sorry. Booo to the recession, that really stinks But you know, smaller weddings can sometimes be more intimate and special…

when is this alll gonna end?

@Aunt Viv

I hear you. I’m apologizing now: When I just disappear mid conversation, I’m just tending to something that needs immediate attention at work. I’m sure you’ve noticed, lol.

So what is the date? Are you doing a honeymoon?

So in other stuff we don’t care about news…

Re!

Hey girrrrl! We talking about CB AGAAIIIIIIN? This happened like a months ago! lol

he probably likes beating on kids too. smart move because there are cameras at the kids choice awards.

Good late morning/early afternoon.

@ Re

Hey Girl!

@MyAsia

Is that really you Z?

@Aunt Viv

I know that’s right! I’m happy for you…keep us updated!

@Scoobie

Hey there dear! Hows everything?

WE DO NOT CAREEEEEEEEEEEEEE DAMN

@ Re

I’m tired. Damn this time change. Who knew one hour could do so much damage? How are you?

No it is not me, duh!

He slapped down his own career

@Scoobie

I’m great! I was accepted to go to Brazil this summer (study abroad program at school)…so I’m just dreaming right now, lol. And yes, this time change is killing me, but I’m adjusting. What state are you located in?

@MyAsia

….? Okay…

@Re

What cha studying and what school?

@ Re

Congrats! Send me some Brazilian rum so I can make a Caiprihna. Yum!!! Girl, I am in Oregon. Yes, we have black people here. LOL!

@MyAsia

Univ. of Md, and I’m studying to teach history (2ndary school). I can’t WAIT! So I don’t get it…you’re not Z?

@Scoobie

Lol, I know girl. I went to school with a girl from Oregon, and she was so interrrresting! I don’t really come into contact with too many people from the West coast. I’m over here in DC…

Tehe Tehe
shits and giggles
bwahahahah
lol

Wise decision

So sick of this Chrianna crap. Anything else exciting to talk about?

@MyAsia

Lol…I guess I’ll never know, huh?

@Aunt Viv

I’m bout to start! We get to hang out with Tamarins…basically some monkeys in the tropical rainforest…

@Re
Im all in yall convo lol, but i didnt know u were in DC. i used to live there. 10th and C N.E. Moved to G’burg in high school. Ended up gettin stationed at Andrews. KINDA miss DC/MD, but had to get back to Nashville.

@ Re

yeah, we Oregon blacks can get interesting. LOL! I hope to be in DC in a couple of years for Grad school. I got fam in Hyattsville (sp?)Maryland.

@Scoobie
Yes, you spelled it right madame! Awesome…goodluck to you!

@Tray
What branch do you belong to? I’m at WRAMC!

That time change is killing me fo’sho.
I feel like I’ve been partying all night.
I am so tired and it’s only 8:30 am pst. I feel a cough coming on, I may have to break out a little early

But I remember they used to have funny posts…
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I know riiiight?

I’m with tray tray?! Is therea nythign else to talk about?

@Sickofitt

Oh, I hope you’re not getting sick. I work at a medical group and everyone is coming in with the creepy crud. Stay hydrated and warm.

i agree with the first comment, who gives a damn?

i don’t. I just wanted to post to look at my avatar. I love clowns

@Sickofitt!
Lol…

@ClownFace

LOL!!!!!

WHAT THREAD IS EVERYONE ON BECAUSE THIS ONE SEEMS TO BE ASLEEP AT THE WHEEL!! LMAO

LOL @ Clown face Kim K, funny!

@ Fake SXY Q…

Give yourself a big hug and tell yourself, I AM SOMEBODY! I don’t have to pretend to be someone else because JESUS LOVES ME!!

Sickofit,

LOL! You must be on the WEST side cuz we @ work already.

@ Re

yeah, we Oregon blacks can get interesting. LOL! I hope to be in DC in a couple of years for Grad school. I got fam in Hyattsville (sp?)Maryland.

There are blacks in Oregon other than the trailblazers? Aer they even there anymore?

***HUGGING SELF****

*STANDING IN FRONT OF MIRROR-I AM WORTHY OF BREATHING AIR*

JB_1030

ARE YOU MALE OR FEMALE?

@jb_1030

I’m the one from Oregon and yes, there are more blacks in Oregon other than the trailblazers. Most of them are in my city, Portland, but there are a few scattered around.

BRB

@MyAsia

Univ. of Md, and I’m studying to teach history (2ndary school). I can’t WAIT!
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I didn’t knwo that. I am going to school to be a math teacher. Yeah for teachers. Those are the role models next to parents, no entertainers.

So ok I need your email so you can “assist” me with my hispty midterm and essays!!!

@ Scoobie

@jb_1030

I’m the one from Oregon and yes, there are more blacks in Oregon other than the trailblazers. Most of them are in my city, Portland, but there are a few scattered around.

Anytime I see anything about Portland, they are always showing some hippie.

@ Tray

What part of TN? I am a big time Vols fan. But I am going to be changing for the next 4 years to Virginia Tech. My Godson plays for them.

@ jb_1030

yeah, Oregon has a LOT of those. Hippies are everywhere. They cool though. It’s those backwoods redneck racists you have to look out for.

@ Scoobie

We got the undercover rednecks out here big time in VA, especially in military.

@jb_1030
Im a Vols fan too, my mom works at Vanderbilt so she gives me sh*t all the time. lol! I’m in Nashville, east side of nashville. V Tech should be cool. GO through there erytime i drive to and from md. not much to do in blacksburg though. lol.

@ Tray,

Not a Damn thing to do in Blacksburg!

He was definitely gettin it in wit Tina Davis… Ask Tion Pri…. lmao…

I’m over it too Aunt Viv!

it’s amazing.

*helped

They helped us out.

Sheesh!

@ Scoobie

Naw we don’t have them. We have more of the I wanna be hard white dudes and the phillipinos. No skin heads. Well at least not out inthe public eye.

@Tray

I didn’t know you were air force! So were you at Andrews AirForce Base?

@jb_1030
Two thumbs up to us poor (literally) teachers! I HATE….HATE HATE HATE MATH!

The weird thing is, I’m good at it.

@Re

Good afternoon Re, my cyber shoe mean shoe game crush, how are you today?

It was stated that Nickelodeon removed his name from the ballot.

WTF?? Withdrawn? He was force to take his name off the ballot! There were over 10,000 complaints from parents on the Kid Choice Awards! He had no choice! The people has spoken!

I hope Chris Brown goes to jail for at least 1 to 2 years!

@ Re

You know being a teacher it’s for the love of teaching not the money. THe money is in counseling and administration.

OOh I almost said menstruation.

jb_1030 (No Amber Rose shoes this month)

@ Re

You know being a teacher it’s for the love of teaching not the money. THe money is in counseling and administration.

OOh I almost said menstruation.

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Are we going through some things this morning? LOL

Hey Re!

Just the burgandy scarf issue!!

@Pimpin Willie

Hey there my dear!!!

@jb_1030

Most def. We will have to put up with alot! It takes strong people…

@UNVME

HEY! Where’ve you been my dear?

@jb_1030

Are the crimson tides keeping you down?

LOL! GIRL I’M WITH YOU! I LIKE THE WAY THEY TRIED TO GET SLICK WITH IT! THAT WAS THE 1ST THING I NOTICED!!! One word can change everything! No one accused her of sending an EMAIL! and I’m sure her attorneys know that! I see they didn’t deny sending a TEXT MESSAGE! funny!

Personally! I believe the hell out of the story! Thats she’s been sexin him for years! and is still at it!..or at least tryin to be!!!!!! And aint too proud to send a booty call request via TEXT MESSAGING! (clearly she’s above emailing though! lol)

“The rumors in circulation are false. There are no emails between Ms. Davis and Mr. Brown of the type which have been described in media reports.”

Email? Maybe I’m just looking too hard, but it looks like they purposely wrote that instead of “text” message…

Nickelodeon asked Chris Brown to withdraw his name due to all the complaints they were receiving! I’m very happy to see Viacom taking a stand!

I love Breezy and I hate all of you dumbasses that want to hang and destroy this young man… he is NOT the first man to put his hand on a woman.

Get over it… already please… he is getting the counseling that he needs to help him with his anger issues.

SMDH @ all you self rightous and perfect people.

@ Re

Naw, it just started to roll. LMAO!!!

@ NYC

Uh no, Viacom did not ask Chris Brown to do that. He removed or his “camp” decided it would be best that he remove his name.

I used to work at a Viacom company. They ain’t Disney, they were going to keep that name on that ballot and they said it on all the “real” mainstream news media outlets.

And I hate to say it, but most likely, Chris would had gotten that award!

I have a question for those of you that want Breezy to go to jail for a couple of years. If he goes, let’s say for 2 years top, then what?

Will you be satisfied then? After he gets out of jail, can he come back to the Entertainment industry?

I just want to know strictly from you guys that want him in jail.

@Re
I sure was…well still am. lol! Yep i got to andrews after i left korea in 2005. Right n the middle of PG county. lol!

Do people read anymore? HE withdrew his name. Nickelodeon did not. Read, then comment. Please.

One thing i must say about this

I think Chris made it as far as it will go with Rihanna and if he is a smart man he will finally let her go and move on with his life and his career without her

If rihanna has not the common-sense to end it then HE should do it

The way our society is once a convict, always a convict. it dont reall matter that you served your sentence. Jail is not a rehibilitation center so the way you went it is the way you come out…sometimes worse and society treats you accordingly. We are not a forgiving society.

Dang Chris!!!! Why you gotta go and f@ck up your life like this!!! Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!

dumb azzez he withdrew his name.. damn this website must be for the retards!!!!

then the radio people don’t even read it right. jennie said he was dumped by nickelodeon.. seee these dummies can’t even read a stolen report correctly on the air but we listen to them like they really got some “juice” Puhleeez!!!

….who’s in here?….

i KNOW FOR A FACT that their relationship was more than manager/client…STOP THE LIES

I think it was a good move for him to bow out of the KCA. Eventually Im sure they would have dropped him anyway but it is def a good move in the right direction for him.
As for these stories and special going on Im so over it, I too believe all this outrage is fake. So until they both speak on the events Im officially done with all these lies and rumors going around the internet.

I’M HERE!!! Wut it do…

Chris needs jail time! I hope the DA pushes for jail time. At least 1 or 2 years because he’s not taking this case seriously. It’s a joke for him! Jail will make him take it seriously!

urrrgh!!! My radio is so dang staticy today. I cant here Wendy!!!! Booooooooooooooo!!!

@UNVME

I here you dear! Me too! Mostly this week…

@Tray

Hey, PG county…they sure do rep for their hood out there…

@ Re

Is it just me or has it been dead in here lately?

@Re
Yeah they do. Do u go to Love at all? I used to…love that club lol.

@UNVME

Nope, it’s not just you. Lol, and it’s getting warmer, so you’ll probably see less and less…sadly, I’m at a computer all day, so this helps pass the time…

@Tray

Naw, I’ve been once to see Common perform…but otherwise, nope. I remember when it was called Dream though!

@ NYC

Again, after Chris goes to jail, then what? What do you want him to do?

I mean you want him to go to jail because of what he did or because you think he’s not taking this seriously?

I think Chris is beginning to feel it, from everywhere. I think this boy is going to be making some major decisions within the next two weeks. Because I don’t think he thought it would get this bad.

But I don’t think jail is the answer either. Hell, if Ike Turner can get a Grammy for a Blues Album 35 years later, then surely little Chris can get some serious help and get his life back on track.

@Re
LOL! Yeah, me too. I liked Dream better. I havent been in a while. i had stopped going out like that.

@ Ms. T
damn u r so right. Partnership and sh*t.

AvaSpeaks

@ NYC

Again, after Chris goes to jail, then what? What do you want him to do?

I mean you want him to go to jail because of what he did or because you think he’s not taking this seriously?

I think Chris is beginning to feel it, from everywhere. I think this boy is going to be making some major decisions within the next two weeks. Because I don’t think he thought it would get this bad.

But I don’t think jail is the answer either. Hell, if Ike Turner can get a Grammy for a Blues Album 35 years later, then surely little Chris can get some serious help and get his life back on track.

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He needs jail first and then major counselling. Chris needs to be out of the public’s eye for at least 5 years! He could go to college and get a degree. Also, he could lie low in a different country!

@ Re

Me too [at the computer all day]. It’s just a little played out for me with all the Chris, Rihanna, and Beyoncé talk. Can I hear about something else? It’s the same daggone thing e-v-e-r-y-d-a-y! Geesh!

*hearing an abundance of crickets*

@tray
I hear you…I never liked it much anyway…

@UNVME

LOL!

If Chris and Rhi are back together why are they not being seen out in public all lovie dovie?

I wonder if Chris ever beat down Tina Davis??

@ Re

I turn on the radio and damn it your song is on.

Stanky Leg

@Unvme & Re
Yeah, i work in a computer shop and i been on the same sites all day, boring as h&ll! Oh well, guess i’ll play some cpu games, lol! This is where all yall tax dollars go, us military guys dont do SH*T!

Good points Truth.

Remember that they are not real people they are a product of society.

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@Re
I was thinking the same thing. No one said anything about an EMAIL, it was a TEXT, and we all know how slick lawyers are. It doesn’t really matter now anyway because @4pm today Chris Brown’s future is officially chopped and SCREWED! OPRAH is dedicating an entire show to him and this situation. IT IS OVER FOR THE BOY!

Lady O is on right now…

that cold so cold cause it just like ike beat tina

I hope this will all come to an end soon….

NYC Gal,

He did apologize. He just didn’t apologize to you. But then again he didn’t hit you.

@ Scoobie

ROTFLMACO!

@ NYC

I completely agree with you on every point.

NYC has proved my point people! If Chris would just give a real Mea Culpa, then the fans will forgive him. Period! It doesn’t matter if he goes to jail or not, if he is sincere in his rehab and truly sorry for what he’s done, then fans will eventually forgive him and begin to support him again.

I think when Chris really, really feels the true weight of what he did, not because of media pressure or whatever, but just when he feels it, then that’s when we will see the major breakdown! I really believe that Chris is not a monster, he made a horrific mistake and how he pays for it, well I don’t know.

But I do know that once Chris really breaks down and says he’s sorry, then the tide will turn and his fans will forgive him and in time, he will get back again.

Scoobie

NYC Gal,

He did apologize. He just didn’t apologize to you. But then again he didn’t hit you.

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If Chris was an accountant or a regular Joe with a 9 to 5 job that didn’t depend on the public for fans and for them to spend their money on his products, then he only needs to apologized to the person he hit.

BeBe Winanas arrested for domestic violence:
http://sandrarose.com/2009/03/12/gospel-star-bebe-winans-arrested-for-assault/#comments

Not only should we stop playing his songs on the radio, we must ban him from church and nail him to the cross as well. If there’s no hope for Chris at 19, BeBe really doesn’t have a chance!!! I wonder if Oprah will dedicate a show to her good friend BeBe….she’ll probably admit she and Gayle are coochie bumpin buddies before that!

**peeking into thread**

**looking around c-a-u-t-i-o-u-s-l-y**

**easing quietly into corner**

@ AvaSpeaks

Please I’m not in agreement with what you’re saying! I think Chris needs to spend sometime jail.

We are in agreement with the fact that he should make an apology to his fans. Did you not just say that?

Yeah, but I said that he should have did that on the same day he did the beat down not a month later!

@ NYC

And okay so what, he goes to jail. Then he spends his 2 years and gets major help. Then what? You think he needs to follow your plan of going to school and staying out of the public’s eye for 5 years?

Okay, let’s say he does that. Then would you be happy? Then would you let him back in the industry?

*bustin’ in like a big dog… reading comments…naw ain’t worth it today, leavin’ & gone!*

AvaSpeaks

@ NYC

And okay so what, he goes to jail. Then he spends his 2 years and gets major help. Then what? You think he needs to follow your plan of going to school and staying out of the public’s eye for 5 years?

Okay, let’s say he does that. Then would you be happy? Then would you let him back in the industry?

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Once Chris pays his dues and stay out of trouble then I think he can make a comeback. Remember he’s only 19 years old and in 5 years he will be 25 or 26!
Just look at his idol Michael Jackson who was acquitted of his charges. He left the country and lay low for 4 years and now he’s making a comeback at 50!

**still lurking**

@ NYC Gal,

In 5 years he will be 24.

**exiting thread**

^^^^

Sorry, I am at work and I had to submit so I didn’t get caught.

Truth is, if he does get any serious time, he’s going to do more time than your average first offender. Most people on their first offense get probation and a fine. But it doesn’t matter. He’s going down for what he did because the public demands it and she gets to slap him around and sell millions. So, fair.

NYC Gal

Jail is not a rehabilitation center, no matter what anyone says. The jail you want him to go wo will harden him and make him bitter towards the woman who put him there (Rihanna). And she might end up dead the next time he sees her. (It’s happened).

And since Rihanna went through his phone (invasion of privacy), kept chaging her story, pretty much lying (perjury), and started the fight (assault), shouldn’t she go to jail too? Or is it excused because she’s the “victim”?

NYC Gal

Jail is not a rehabilitation center, no matter what anyone says. The jail you want him to go wo will harden him and make him bitter towards the woman who put him there (Rihanna). And she might end up dead the next time he sees her. (It’s happened).

And since Rihanna went through his phone (invasion of privacy), kept chaging her story, pretty much lying (perjury), and started the fight by hitting him, (assault), shouldn’t she go to jail too? Or is it excused because she’s the “victim”?

Disregard the 1st post theres a mistake.

SERIOUSLY, IS THERE EVER A GOOD PICTURE OF THIS DUDE! HE ALWAYS TUCKIN’ IN THAT FAT LIP! ..OR DOING SUMTHIN’ WIT HIZ LIPS, SHYT AINT EVEN CUTE LIKE LL DO.

Dear God

NYC Gal

Jail is not a rehabilitation center, no matter what anyone says. The jail you want him to go wo will harden him and make him bitter towards the woman who put him there (Rihanna). And she might end up dead the next time he sees her. (It’s happened).

And since Rihanna went through his phone (invasion of privacy), kept chaging her story, pretty much lying (perjury), and started the fight by hitting him, (assault), shouldn’t she go to jail too? Or is it excused because she’s the “victim”?

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Not everybody needs jail but I think Chris needs to spend sometime in jail and get some counselling when he comes out. If he comes back out and kills Rihanna, then he will just face the death penalty!

Invasion of privacy? Please! That went out the door when Chris put his hands on Rihanna. If Chris’ face looked the same as Rihanna in that police photo, then I think that Rihanna should face jail time but if it didn’t Chris should be thrown in jail.

@ NYC Gal

In a case when your reputation and fan base is at stake, the faster you make a public apology the more forgiving the general public is. Had Chris came out the sameday and apologize. This incident wouldn’t have been so big because people would have said that aleast Chris apologized.

Remember Michael Jackson gave a LIVE apology to his fans when he was first accused of abusing boys. The general public saw the remorse written on Michael’s face as he spoke directly to his fans. He looked like he was about to cry. He couldn’t read the teleprompter correctly and his voice was shaking. After seeing Michael made that apology, most people believe he was innocent.
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So the “perception” of an apology is what makes him more forgiveable? Okay, AND so he’s supposed to make a public apology and have that used against him in court. Yeah, okay. Would you do that?

NYC Gal
Invasion of privacy? Please! That went out the door when Chris put his hands on Rihanna.

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Yes invasion of privacy, but I guess you just let people go through your text messages all of the time?

Not everybody needs jail but I think Chris needs to spend sometime in jail and get some counselling when he comes out.

LMAO @ you think people REALLY get counseling in jail?!!

Have you ever been to a jail before? I haven’t had to stay but I have visited a few times for different people.

That is some ish that people tell you to make the public feel better about a person going to jail. Let’s just not even go there…

Dear God

NYC Gal
Invasion of privacy? Please! That went out the door when Chris put his hands on Rihanna.

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Yes invasion of privacy, but I guess you just let people go through your text messages all of the time?
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If they do, I don’t beat them down either!

Oh, wait…counseling when he gets out of jail. My bad I read that wrong. Still doesn’t help because when they get out of jail, they’re bitter…

Scoobie

Not everybody needs jail but I think Chris needs to spend sometime in jail and get some counselling when he comes out.

LMAO @ you think people REALLY get counseling in jail?!!

Have you ever been to a jail before? I haven’t had to stay but I have visited a few times for different people.

That is some ish that people tell you to make the public feel better about a person going to jail. Let’s just not even go there
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Please read my previous post carefully before you respond.

NYC Gal.

Read the post that I just did after that. I said I read it wrong.

Scoobie

Oh, wait…counseling when he gets out of jail. My bad I read that wrong. Still doesn’t help because when they get out of jail, they’re bitter…

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That’s why I suggested counselling after spending time in jail!

NYC Gal,

Yeah, said that. Like I said before, I’m at work. Trying not to get caught. Like I’m cheating of something.

RIHANNA IS A LOSER !!!!!!!!!!!!!

and the unraveling continues … :/

He can’t be the Kid’s Choice, but he can be the People’s Champ.

he doesn’t deserve it, good

He always has a stupid look on his face.

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I’m tired of hearing about both of thier asses…

well maybe he can get an ESPN award for best knockout HA HA

I’m still looking for JuJu, holla at a brother!

He’s not happy with her. You know he’s only back with her to salvage his career. Chris would be shunned now if he went his own way and did not attempt to reconcile with Rihanna. This is a business deal for him plain and simple.

Oprah is doing a show on men who have beaten women. I hope Chris Brown shows up!

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