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“Bill (Clinton) is every bit as black as Barack,” he said. “He has probably gone out with more black women than Barack.”

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What in the hell? If that’s the case. OJ, Keenan Ivory, and every other man who has dated white women and like Mayonnaise are white.

P.S.

Just to show the hypocrisy and double standard. If Imus said the exact same thing he would be fired again.

Just to show the hypocrisy and double standard. If Imus said the exact same thing he would be fired again.

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Are you like the “double standard and hypocrisy” detective or something? How would he be fired for saying that?

We shall overcome civil rights leaders.

Civil Rights is old school

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Hey, let’s get rid of all the Civil Rights legislations and see how old school Civil Rights is, k?

If Imus said “Bill (Clinton) is every bit as black as Barack there would be some idiots claiming he is racist. This guy just like Al and Jesse need to go sit down and enjoy their golden years.

Leadership requires suffering. And I would like to see Barack’s children get a little older, see, because they’re going to pick on them.”

So because Obama’s kids are young, he shouldn’t run for president? What type of ignorant mess is that? It sounds like Mr. Young would say anything out of fear that Obama will succeed. But you can’t keep a good brotha down!

Delurking to say..

Have people forgotten that Martin Luther King didn’t see his 40th Birthday?

It is actually UNNATURAL to have movement leaders old enough to collect social security.

They can see the writing on the wall. Just look at what a bunch of 20 and 30-something bloggers have accomplished in the past year.

The baton wil either be passed or our generation should rip it from their hands.

This is ridiculous.

The Clinton have the power and ability to give these guys positions and line their pockets. Thats all.

Obama is doing pretty well on his own without the backing of these so called “leaders”.

Leadership requires suffering. And I would like to see Barack’s children get a little older, see, because they’re going to pick on them.”

Well if leadership is about suffering there should never have been and there should never be another white man as president. WTF do they know about suffering??? There should only be minority presidents. He’s an idiot!!!!

@Gem2001

Good point.^^^ They need to pass the torch b/c there aren’t enough of them to fight the fight anymore… but I guess they think we are too young and inexperienced.

AND.. said:

If Imus said “Bill (Clinton) is every bit as black as Barack there would be some idiots claiming he is racist. This guy just like Al and Jesse need to go sit down and enjoy their golden years.

I agree with that statement. I mean Barrack has touched on some issues that are concerning Blacks but he has to touch on the issues of everyone not just Blacks. Civil Rights leaders are for that and fighting for our rights to have equality and justice in this counntry. To say that they are irrevelant? No..I wouldn’t say that but they are ol’ skool in handling situations that concern blacks of today..with that said I do think they should be easy on Barrack get the brotha a chance to prove himself. He was doing good here as an Illinois senator. But to say that Bill was more black than Barrack is a bit of a stretch

If Imus said “Bill (Clinton) is every bit as black as Barack there would be some idiots claiming he is racist. This guy just like Al and Jesse need to go sit down and enjoy their golden years.

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Sorry, And…, but your detection is wrong, since the only folks I’ve been hearing this “Bill is the first black president” from is Black folks. Where I’m from, a lot of black folks blindly supported Bill Clinton.

I haven’t seen any politician yet worth voting for Barack or Hillary….nobody is talking bout the crazy rise in gas, or the housing market reaching above to where middle class people can’t even afford the lowest monthly payment on a house…every second the black community is being pushed into low income housing and projects and losing their houses they’ve worked hard for, but some kind of way America has money for this expensive war and money to keep the entertainers paid so that America is still know as the country of great entertainment…so either way none of the candidates priorities are truly straight…everyone skips over the healthcare question so is the people…the everyday people…the ones who actually vote…are their interests at heart to these politicians?

nahnah!!!!!!!!

don’t do it!!! they ain’t ready for it yet! Who is Obama? What does he stand for? Where was he and what was he doing when Sean Bell was wrongfully shot? Hurricane Katrina? The L.A. Uprisings? What was his position on any of that? What is his position on political prisoners and on actually impeaching Bush?

all i can say is, Obama comes from the stock (on both sides of the atlantic) that put ur family in chains. believe that. if i’ma vote for a puppet, i’d vote for Lambchop.

Sorry, And…, but your detection is wrong, since the only folks I’ve been hearing this “Bill is the first black president” from is Black folks. Where I’m from, a lot of black folks blindly supported Bill Clinton.

That’s exactly the point. Black ppl are saying that a white man is more black than a black man.

nahnah

Civil Rights is old school

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Hey, let’s get rid of all the Civil Rights legislations and see how old school Civil Rights is, k?

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I think ppl are saying the Civil Rights era tactics are “old school”.

No..I wouldn’t say that but they are ol’ skool in handling situations that concern blacks of today…

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I agree with what you are saying, Dani.

For example, racism is more subtle and not as ‘in your face’ as it was back in those days, so there need to be a balance in the way they’re being approached.

Furthermore, intra-community protesting(not necessarily marching and shouting) of gang violence and other crimes, low literacy rate, high pregnacy rate, ect…would be a better solution. Not worrying about what racist vultures like Imus has to say.

I think ppl are saying the Civil Rights era tactics are “old school”.

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In that case, I agree that new school tactics are needed.

Julian Bond the former NCAAP president is married to a white woman. Andrew Young recommended to King family to sell The King Center in Atlanta. Bill Clinton cut federal funding for poor black kids to go to college & cut social programs that hurt needy black families.

WeSSide Eviscer8r

“Obama comes from the stock (on both sides of the atlantic) that put ur family in chains. believe that. if i’ma vote for a puppet, i’d vote for Lambchop”

First lol @ “if i’ma vote for a puppet, i’d vote for Lambchop”. Second, are you referring to Obama being half white? What’s your point? There are tons of people who are biracial not to mention there were freed blacks who had slaves.

nahnah

I think ppl are saying the Civil Rights era tactics are “old school”.

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In that case, I agree that new school tactics are needed.

Agreed^^^^ and that we need a new party. The two we have just ain’t cutting it.

I agree with Gem2001 and nah nah

nah nah is right though. However the blacks that support the Republican party are wealthy. Some of these celebs that are pro-democrat are just saying that because this is what they people want to hear from them and they don’t want to lose their fans. Republican party favors wealthy people because they have more money to consume and and that increases our GDP. Why you think Bush gives wealthy people tax cuts? Give them tax cuts they can be able to spend more money and can pay off taxes to increase the GDP. Yes, it would be more beneficial to give poor people tax cuts but they have low incomes and that ian’t as much to increase the GDP as oppose to the rich. That’s what you call ladies and gentlemen that’s what you call capitlism-uneual distribtion of wealth. There will never be equality amongest race and wealth.

nobody is talking bout the crazy rise in gas, or the housing market reaching above to where middle class people can’t even afford the lowest monthly payment on a house

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Yes they have been talking about that.

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Bronx Brawler said

Julian Bond the former NCAAP president is married to a white woman. Andrew Young recommended to King family to sell The King Center in Atlanta. Bill Clinton cut federal funding for poor black kids to go to college & cut social programs that hurt needy black families.

so true!..I mean I have no problem with a black man marrying a white woman but that does takes the purpose away from him being head of the NAACP basically they are more of pro-black union. That was smack in the face to black people when he did that.lol

dani

I mean I have no problem with a black man marrying a white woman but that does takes the purpose away from him being head of the NAACP basically they are more of pro-black union. That was smack in the face to black people when he did that.lol

I don’t understand that^^^^^ Just b/c he married out of his race he can’t help his race or isn’t worthy to? So only black couples can fight for black rights? I really hope this is not what you are saying b/c if it is this is the stuff that has us behind.

WeSSide Eviscer8r

nahnah!!!!!!!!

don’t do it!!! they ain’t ready for it yet! Who is Obama? What does he stand for? Where was he and what was he doing when Sean Bell was wrongfully shot? Hurricane Katrina? The L.A. Uprisings? What was his position on any of that? What is his position on political prisoners and on actually impeaching Bush?

all i can say is, Obama comes from the stock (on both sides of the atlantic) that put ur family in chains. believe that. if i’ma vote for a puppet, i’d vote for Lambchop

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INCORRECT!

Barack’s paternal side is East African & the Euro slave trade came out of West Africa.

@JerseyBred

When I heard about this man wanting to run, I thought “White folks aren’t going to give him a chance.” Boy was I wrong. We seem to have the biggest problems with him.

My thoughts exactly^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

JalMaster

In the UK every candidate is GIVEN the same amount of $ to their respective campaigns.

In the US private funding & lobbyists do the funding so third, fourth, etc party

ain’t gon’ happen.

GO OBAMA! Clinton (Hillary or Bill) supporters are idiots!

@ AND….

Hi. I am referring to the fact that NONE of Obama’s were ever slaves here or on African soil. On either side…you do know that there were white identured slaves in America, right? Well, he is descended, on his white side by the white folks that have always been in charge of good ol’ USA. In fact, he is related by blood to Bush and Cheney, among others (go google “obama ancestry”, go to ur library). On his African (NOT AFRICAN-AMERICAN)—Kenyan—side he descends from Kenyan royalty. I am not sure whatchooknowbout how slavery worked..but if u can actually claim direct African royalty w/in ur recent past, that would mean your ancestors were among the ones who didn’t get got. that would mean, that his ancestors were the ones getting paid to keep up the slave supply. fact. and remember, the african slave trade was more of an inside job than anything else. so…i’m cool on obama…fucc symbolism…if he wins, and nothing changes or even gets worse—then what will our folks say? obama ain’t runnin’ nothin.

Clinton hasn’t been black since the 1994 Rwandan genocide that he inactively participated in.

@WeSSide Eviscer8r

I agree and didn’t know some of what you said but I don’t see what someone’s ancestors have to do with them. My ancestors were slaves and some were slave owners so I shouldn’t be able to help blacks b/c of what someone else did? I just think Obama has a harder road to travel than any other candidate in history.

Clinton advisor

“Senator Obama is a fabulous orator, but we need more than words. We don’t need someone who says one thing and does another, somebody who talks a good game but doesn’t have the courage of their convictions. And on issue after issue, Senator Obama says one thing and does another.”

Andrew Young

“Bill (Clinton) is every bit as black as Barack,” he said. “He has probably gone out with more black women than Barack.”

JerseyBred

“We (black people) seem to have the biggest problems with him.”

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That’s the damn truth! And this truth makes me sad.

Clinton hasn’t been black since the 1994 Rwandan genocide that he inactively participated in.

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SPEAK!

I mean “there”

nahnah

Clinton hasn’t been black since the 1994 Rwandan genocide that he inactively participated in.

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SPEAK!

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Clinton is not, was not, and will not ever be BLACK

SPEAK!

dani

I mean I have no problem with a black man marrying a white woman but that does takes the purpose away from him being head of the NAACP basically they are more of pro-black union. That was smack in the face to black people when he did that.lol

I don’t understand that^^^^^ Just b/c he married out of his race he can’t help his race or isn’t worthy to? So only black couples can fight for black rights? I really hope this is not what you are saying b/c if it is this is the stuff that has us behind.

Nah not concerning me but for other people who think that way. I really wouildn’t care but you know how some blacks would be like “well he married a white woman;he sold out” the majority would be offended..but me I can careless but I guess to many that made him look bad..my bad for the clarification

helltothanaw

Sounds like a case of the green-eyed monster with a touch of crabs in the barrel syndrome.

Doesn’t it though?

@ JerseyBred

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh….ok….SO EAST AFRICANS—KENYANS were not made slaves??? WTF? The FIRST place the Portuguese (Europeans!) went to (circa late 1400s) was KENYA- numbnuts. Who do you think became the slaves of the Arabs?? I am saying that on both sides of his ancestry he is on the side of the enslavers. Ya know, Jerseybred, ur disgusting. u r always on here trying to promote that YT propaganda. Do u receive a paycheck for ur efforts? Nickle, get some worth. Dumbazz…that rascist of u right there…to assume ALL AFRICANS came from West Africa.

HAnds oFf AsSata!

Free Mumia!

Hilary Clinton is one to talk. She’s always playing both sides of the fence.

nahnah

AND…I agree and didn’t know some of what you said but I don’t see what someone’s ancestors have to do with them. My ancestors were slaves and some were slave owners so I shouldn’t be able to help blacks b/c of what someone else did? I just think Obama has a harder road to travel than any other candidate in history.

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If your parents were rich, and they passed on all their wealth to you when they passed, you’d think twice about making that ‘what does someone’s forefathers have to do with them’.

WTF does what my ancestors left me have to do with who I want to help. There are ppl who came from nothing and are helping others and vice versa.

“Messy Jackson” is one guy, despite his faults, who stood up and fought so Mr. Obama can run for the most important position in America, so give credit where credit is due.

Not that I’m comparing Jesse with Dr.King, but King had tons of blacks tearing him down as during his days.

nahnah

“Messy Jackson” is one guy, despite his faults, who stood up and fought so Mr. Obama can run for the most important position in America, so give credit where credit is due.

I agree with your above statement but ppl are and have been giving him credit since he started. As Miss Jackson said “what have you done for me lately?”

And…

My point went right over your head, didn’t it? Your forefathers have everything to do with you. That is what I’m saying…

They don’t wanna sit down & talk with us. They don’t wanna understand us. They don’t wanna understand how they as our elders have let us down. They wanna chastise us & would rather air dirty laundry. They wanna have congressional hearings for Hip Hop vs.[America].

Never a truer statement^^^^^^^.

Not that I’m comparing Jesse with Dr.King, but King had tons of blacks tearing him down as during his days.

so true nah nah

Alot of black people thought that he was doing the impossible. You guys remember the Booker T. Washington and W.E.B. Dubois debate? Many sided with Booker T. because they felt that that was possible for them. They pretty much thought that W.E.B DuBois was a “house nigger” because his arguments were idealist for blacks then. They gave him a “ho sit down”.lol

@ AND…

I hear you…I am saying that I personally do not accept the logic that I vote for Obama because he is Black. I have nothing in common with him, really. I have met him. I have met Clinton. There is no discernible difference, IMHO. That the powers that be think that someone like me, would vote for someone like him—because he is a good-looking, educated, brother—they are mistaken. I am saying that a candidate, a Black candidate in this country to garnish my support, would have to have knowledge of us and our stuggles as the descendants of slaves. I believe our problems as a people our from that experience. Obama’s soul has never been that of a prisoner. oh, excuse me…*sideway glancin at that gross out, Jerseybred*,

—okay, as i was saying, i wish him well, but he is not the one I am waitin on!

They don’t wanna sit down & talk with us. They don’t wanna understand us. They don’t wanna understand how they as our elders have let us down. They wanna chastise us & would rather air dirty laundry. They wanna have congressional hearings for Hip Hop vs.[America].

LMAO those debates get old *sigh* and they never get anywhere because they are so one-sided with their arguments

We as a people will NEVER get to the promise land. SMDH!!!

nahnah

And…

My point went right over your head, didn’t it? Your forefathers have everything to do with you. That is what I’m saying…

My forefathers have nothing to do with the type of person I choose to be or the ppl I choose to help. Your opinion for me. My fact for me.

I AM AT A LOSS FOR WORDS….(wait, let me read this ish again)

You have to have a protective network around you…

AL (you know u rapped that skriper) SHARPTON?? THE NAACP (even though they called donavan mcnabb a sell out for throwing a football & not running all the time)

Leadership requires suffering. WTF you talking bout???

And I would like to see Barack’s children get a little older, see, because they’re going to pick on them.”

HELLO…THOSE CHILDREN GONE HAVE A CREW TO …THEY CALLED: SECRET SERVICE!!!

slow down folk…

I am not discrediting him based on his genealogy, but rather his lack of Black Americaness…lol…And, i think ancestry is everything. Do u think u just happen to be a fool…i am sure if u check ur family tree, u come from a long line of fools. survivin’ fools. And, if u know how to scroll up ^^^, u will c that i said Obama has not moved me on the issues i consider important. if anything, i am saying that his color does not move me. i want to c some substance, if not he is EXACTLY like any other politician, but in a brown wrapping. y’all kill me…argue w/ur damn selves…

WeSSide Eviscer8r

@ AND…

I hear you…I am saying that I personally do not accept the logic that I vote for Obama because he is Black. Obama’s soul has never been that of a prisoner.

I can respect that b/c I will not vote on someone based on such superficial things either but the only problem I have is that Obama’s soul has never been that of a prisoner. First we don’t know his life and all he has gone through. I have a lot of biracial friends and comming up like that can’t be easy. Secondly, my soul and your soul has never been that of a prisoner either. My soul is free and so were my ancestors. Their bodies may have been prisoners but their souls were not. We don’t know what it’s like to be a slave so our generation although we sympathize don’t truly know what that was like. All we can do is hear it from our great grand parents and read about it… just like the white folks.

I don’t like that comment about Obama’s children “need to get a little older”. Could that be some sort of veiled threat? Are we seeing somethin’ real ugly here? Bill Clinton = Bubba Mafia.

Their bodies may have been prisoners but their souls were not. We don’t know what it’s like to be a slave so our generation although we sympathize don’t truly know what that was like. All we can do is hear it from our great grand parents and read about it… just like the white folks.

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Just like white folks? Does ‘white priveledge’ ring a bell’? priveledge again.

Hey …And:

We’re agreeing and disagreeing with each other at the same time. Life is great, eh? LMAO!!!

I am not discrediting him based on his genealogy, but rather his lack of Black Americaness…lol

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ha.

For those of you who support Obama, what are you reasons? I’d like for some of you to give a reason why he’s such a great candidate, other than the fact that he’s black.

If you look at it objectively, he and Clinton are pretty much the same people, REALLY! They’re simply two peas in a pod, fighting for power.

We don’t force change because immune to this Democrat/Republican scam.

And why can’t we worry about problems in the black community, since white folks ain’t worried about us? We are all opportunists by nature.

Jerseybred:

I agree with you. We are afraid to go for what we believe in. And good for you for digging Kucinich – as I thought I was loner on that!

Hey nanah, I dig Kucinich as well. I’m also a fan of Joe Biden. For that matter, despite him being one of the “richies” , I can even get with John Edwards.

@ AND…

and there we differ…i believe that our soul continues thru time…reforming and changing as time moves forward. The outer case—that who we are today, right now–will cease at some point…but the soul will continue infinitely. So, i do feel and understand when my soul and those outer cases it had—my greatgrandmother for one!—were slaves. i will never forget it. the residuals of slavery is what makes u straighten ur hair. slavery is the parent of racism. remember, necessity is the mother of invention. if u can’t get to this, do not worry, u will…ur (our) ancestors have directed us to each other for a reason. truss that.

WeSSide Eviscer8r

@ JerseyBred

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh….ok….SO EAST AFRICANS—KENYANS were not made slaves??? WTF? The FIRST place the Portuguese (Europeans!) went to (circa late 1400s) was KENYA- numbnuts. Who do you think became the slaves of the Arabs?? I am saying that on both sides of his ancestry he is on the side of the enslavers. Ya know, Jerseybred, ur disgusting. u r always on here trying to promote that YT propaganda. Do u receive a paycheck for ur efforts? Nickle, get some worth. Dumbazz…that rascist of u right there…to assume ALL AFRICANS came from West Africa.

HAnds oFf AsSata!

Free Mumia!

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LOL at the idea of me promoting racist White ideologies. Try again.

Who said Kenyans weren’t slaves? You’re correct about the Portuguese being the earliest Euro slave traders but like I said earlier, the Euro slave trade began in West Africa & it was in the nation of Mauritaunia which reaffirms my correctness. Try again.

these tired ass folks are only jockin’ Hillary because they’re scared she’ll won’t return their calls if she wins. But clearly their principles are too co-opted by the political mainstream to go out on a limb and give Barack the love he deserves.

How dare Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Andrew Young diss Barack Obama. They are jealous and don’t know how to mentor without control. Bill Clinton is not black and Hillary is not black. White liberals are not substitute blacks. Barack in 2008 not because he is black but because he is a QUALIFIED and VISIONARY black man. I would never put a Clinton in the white house again, not after the way Bill disrespected his office, family and supporters. Sharpton, Jackson, and Young should be ashamed of themselves and should be on tour with Oprah supporting Mr. Obama. It’s the same ole crab in the barrell, they want to keep Obama down so they can crawl to the top. Elders need to pass the torch and stop eating your young.

@ Jerseybred:

Near the end of the fifteenth century the first Europeans arrived on the Kenyan coast. In 1498, a Portuguese explorer named Vasco de Gama stumbled upon the East African coast in search of China. De Gama was initially rejected by the sultan at Mombasa although his bitter rival, the sultan of Malindi welcomed the explorers. The new immigrants did not settle in quietly, however, and within a few years the Portuguese had looted and ransacked several Swahili cities.

The Portuguese remained on the East African coast for 200 years with well established trading posts. These newest immigrants spent their time trading gold from the interior and exporting slaves to work on the plantations in North America and East Indies. Portuguese rule was harsh, unpopular, and economically debilitating for the local people…

etcetera…etcetera…etcetera…

exactly who do u think u r?…yo sh*t stinks!

Elijah HOOD

I think if we all had our ancestry looked through with a fine toothed comb, alot of us would have that look quincy jones had when they told him he was 70 something percent white, and his people were slave owners.(i know ya’ll saw that on pbs)

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I don’t remember Q’s White ancestry being that high. Dag. LOL at his middle name being “Delightt”! “Now if that isn’t ghetto…” – Quincy Jones. LOL!

Gates’ & sistagirl with the wavy hair (I think she’s an educator) have a very high level of White ancestry. She had that “WTF?!” look on her face when she learned of her results, LOL!

@ Jerseybred:

go check ur notes, son…prolly not what they taught u at YTU.

*goes back to reading Mis-Education of the Negro by Dr. Carter G. Woodson*

Nahnah

I agree I can’t stand ignorance but you are part of the ignorant majority as well. Do your research Obama has been doing plenty for his Chicago residents check out the stats in his years of serving. We finally get a creditable candidate and you call him a celebrity??? That’s straight hate on your own kind; we have enough of that already. You claim no politician will make major changes, right, but at least if a black man is in office issues concerning our community will at least be spoken of. Don’t you think it our time?? Al Sharpton and Jesse have been so focused on music and other trivial things that things like improving our economic equality suffers. YO PICK UP A BOOK AND STOP HATING… hating is the easy part but change is where the work gets done. Love to see you try to be a black politican on any level…wait are you even black?

@ Jerseybred:

update for ur corny azz…

Gates is repudiating his findings on the special. seems the “ethnic DNA testers” tell black folk what they wanna hear. it is actually impossible for folks of color (muttz..like most of us AFRICAN-AMERICANs) to get an accurate reading. Gates, since the production and release of that special, is becoming their greatest critic.

p.s. i called u son…it felt right. u might be a mannish woman. lol. n/h.

There is indeed a new era of AA politics and the ‘old school’ regime is feeling threatened due to Barack’s lack of cowtowing to them. Don’t hate, congratulate….go Barack!!

To: Lady Architect

I understand your stance; I often feel the same way.

Choose to believe that sometimes, you have to over look what is deemed to be minor to reach the masses, so that you have the opportunity to correct the wrongs. A Good Leader has to pick and choose battles, knows when to admit wrong and knows when to play along. I choose to have faith.

Blaqk, shut your pie hole!

I challenge you to sit here and list the reasons why all black people should jump on the “Obama for Prez” train.

Please, don’t assume all black people are or think alike. And I’ve stated all of my reasons why I don’t like Obama for president.

And, yes, He looks more of like a celebrity to me.

WeSSide Eviscer8r

@ Jerseybred:

Near the end of the fifteenth century the first Europeans arrived on the Kenyan coast. In 1498, a Portuguese explorer named Vasco de Gama stumbled upon the East African coast in search of China. De Gama was initially rejected by the sultan at Mombasa although his bitter rival, the sultan of Malindi welcomed the explorers. The new immigrants did not settle in quietly, however, and within a few years the Portuguese had looted and ransacked several Swahili cities.

The Portuguese remained on the East African coast for 200 years with well established trading posts. These newest immigrants spent their time trading gold from the interior and exporting slaves to work on the plantations in North America and East Indies. Portuguese rule was harsh, unpopular, and economically debilitating for the local people…

etcetera…etcetera…etcetera…

exactly who do u think u r?…yo sh*t stinks!

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In 1444, the first slaves were brought to Portugal from northern Mauritania which is Northwestern African nation.

In 1472, a Portuguese explorer (bka slave trader), Ruy de Sequeira, named the former capital of Nigeria Lagos after a town in Portugal with the same name. At that time, Lagos, Portugal was a major slavery center which had its run starting from 1444.

What are you driving at with your line of questioning?

Damn, is this Jeopardy?

LOL, carry on folks!

Barack represents change. He represents a new form of politics that does not cow tow to special interest (of course he’s only able to do that because of an unusual rock star like status that allows him to raise money like crazy but I digress). In being so anti-establishment he has people who make money off of the establishment shook up and feeling left out.

As for the people who say there’s no difference between Barack and hillary. You are speaking from sheer ignorance. There is a marked difference in their healthcare plans, positions on Iraq, positions on Iran, positions on PACs, positions on education, and positions on urban renewal.

In all of these issues Barack is a better fit for the black community. Bill Clinton was shoved down our throats by these “black leaders” when really he was just the only democratic president in 27 years. His policies were demeaning damaging, and flat out contradictory to our cause. It’s sad that the black community doesn’t pay close enough attention to the running of our democracy to know when we’re being lied to. We need to stop Hillary and we need to stop her now. If not barack anybody but Hillary.

I’m not supporting Obama because he is black. I am supporting him because I like his position on the issues, and i believe he is a principled person and is more likely to tell the truth than Hillary Clinton. The Clintons have a long history of lying and saying whatever it takes to gain political power. Just last week Bill Clinton said he was against the war in Iraq since the beginning. That is a flat out lie. Hillary Clinton is running on Bill’s record, well except the things that went wrong. Se doesn’t agree with the bad things; the good things, yea she was there, she had a hand in it.

Obama doesn’t have those ethical issues. He is also more progressive when it comes to his policies (maybe not as progressive as Edwards, but Edwards is damaged goods as far as I’m concerned, he couldnt even help Kerry win his home state in 04, how will he win this time?). He has advocated changing the messed up drug sentencing laws, Obama is for retroactive sentencing, and Obama is for it. Obama has a better Energy plan, he has a more realistic healthcare plan(one that doesnt include a mandate), he introduced legislation against subprime ending, and spoke on the disparity in numbers of african americans who were victims of this. he is in favor of merit pay for teachers… i could go on.

ReddingNewsReview.com needs to be given credit for breaking this story. Thanks!

WeSSide Eviscer8r

I’m corny yet you have to deviate to name-calling, conduct yourself with utter foolishness, idiotically accuse me of being arrogant, & nonsensically assume that I’m pushing a White agenda simply because of the fact that I disagree with your info.

CHANGE. CHANGE. CHANGE. CHANGE. CHANGE. CHANGE.

WHAT CHANGE IS GOING TO MAKE?

STOP SAYING HE’S GOING TO MAKE CHANGE WITHOUT ELABORATING ON THE SO-CALLED CHANGES.

HOPEFULLY BY THE TIME I GET BACK, SOME OF YOU WILL HAVE A WHOLE LIST FOR A SISTAH!

THANKS IN ADVANCE, AND BBL!

@ Jerseybred:

“…& the Euro slave trade came out of West Africa.”

that statement U made was incorrect, fool.

u have done nothing to prove that statement to be anything other than incorrect.

i c u tryin’ to make this an West Coast/East Coast rivalry in every sense and on every level of its meaning. I know how to deal with wannabe smarties like u:

Free Mumia and all political prisoners (what’s Obama’s/other candidates position on that?)

Hands Off Assata( hmmm??….)

and have a “nice” day in the real sense of the meaning, NESCIUS!!!!!!

@ Jerseybred:

I resort to name calling because that is all I CAN do…give it a few years..technology will have it so I can reach thru this screen…

T.J.

Barack represents change. He represents a new form of politics that does not cow tow to special interest (of course he’s only able to do that because of an unusual rock star like status that allows him to raise money like crazy but I digress). In being so anti-establishment he has people who make money off of the establishment shook up and feeling left out.

As for the people who say there’s no difference between Barack and hillary. You are speaking from sheer ignorance. There is a marked difference in their healthcare plans, positions on Iraq, positions on Iran, positions on PACs, positions on education, and positions on urban renewal.

In all of these issues Barack is a better fit for the black community. Bill Clinton was shoved down our throats by these “black leaders” when really he was just the only democratic president in 27 years. His policies were demeaning damaging, and flat out contradictory to our cause. It’s sad that the black community doesn’t pay close enough attention to the running of our democracy to know when we’re being lied to. We need to stop Hillary and we need to stop her now. If not barack anybody but Hillary.

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^^^If this ain’t the gospel right there, I don’t know what is.

Negroes loved & still love Clinton cuz he played the sax, smoked a joint, cheated on his wife repeatedly, & eats soul food. Blk folks were clowning Sister Souljah for her prophetic assessment of Clinton back in the 90s & look at us now. Clinton was worse than Reagan was for Blk ppl. Remember when Bill drop-kicked Lani Guinier’s ass to the curb? Billary’s going to be an extension of her husband’s era & to that I say “Hell no.”

WeSSide Eviscer8r

@ AND…

and there we differ…i believe that our soul continues thru time…reforming and changing as time moves forward. The outer case—

So you believe that you have the same soul as slaves or that the slave souls just jumped into another body?

@nahnah

Just like white folks? Does ‘white priveledge’ ring a bell’? priveledge again

This did go over my head^^^. I know what white privilege is but how does that relate to what I’m talking about? And yes it is fabulous to agree and disagree at the same time.

BARACK!!!!!!

Some real crazy rass people post on this place LOL.

NubianGoddez & nahnah!!!

Although I do agree that both parties are bogus those are all we have so stop fighting the funk. Either you vote for one of the two (three if you include independent) or you don’t vote at all.

WeSSide Eviscer8r

@ Jerseybred:

“…& the Euro slave trade came out of West Africa.”

that statement U made was incorrect, fool.

u have done nothing to prove that statement to be anything other than incorrect.

i c u tryin’ to make this an West Coast/East Coast rivalry in every sense and on every level of its meaning. I know how to deal with wannabe smarties like u:

Free Mumia and all political prisoners (what’s Obama’s/other candidates position on that?)

Hands Off Assata( hmmm??….)

and have a “nice” day in the real sense of the meaning, NESCIUS!!!!!!

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If I’d used “only” anywhere in that sentence, then your argument would’ve had maybe a half a leg to stand on. Still, you’re incorrect about where the Portuguese “explored” first.

& no, I am not trying to create an East vs. West Africa rivalry. Another one of your poor assessments. Regardless of where it started, both regions were ravaged by slavery.

“I resort to name calling because that is all I CAN do” — the most accurate thing you said.

@ AND…

I believe the soul is continuous…

I believe that the soul is intangible to those who do not accept its tuth.

and, I believe that u r still a slave…maybe not in body, but definitely in mind and soul. stop the two-tongue stuff…i am not lost on the confusion u offer. get off the fence. and no…we do not have to agree, but don’t try to clown me by asking about “souls jumping.” that’s some dumb sh*t. and if that’s not what u meant to come across as saying, choose ur words more carefully b4 addressing me.

WTF. OMG!!! These Men need to shut the hell up. If Hillary was going to lynch Obama these B&&tches would bring the rope. We have some serious sickness maybe we need a mass exorcism. Save us from house negroes.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Black people are doomed…..these old civil rights fools need to support Barack or they need to go. Period. There is nothing redeeming about the Clintons.

@JerseyBred

Please leave WeSSide Eviscer8r alone. He/she has gotten so upset by you that she has started taking out on others. Just leaving knowing…

so many typos damn

@ Jerseybred:

Lol! @ :

“I resort to name calling because that is all I CAN do” — the most accurate thing you said.

funny stuff. and yes, slavery did the entire continent in…but my initial annoyance was due to u saying that that the Euro slave trade came out of West Africa. That theory is in sync with YTU. I have been taught that the Portuguese set up shop on the East coast of Africa and worked there way to the WeSSide (i can not help it…). As for the name-calling I will cease and desist. Yet, u came at me with something that is inaccurate.

oh and the comparison of Obama to Kennedy is wrong, Kennedy had been in the house twice before coming senator and he served in the military.

@WeSSide Eviscer8r

In the words of Jerseybred: “I resort to name calling because that is all I CAN do” keep doing what you do…

@nahnah

hey if you formed a party I’d join/vote/cosign the whole nine.

All of these dudes are sell outs, loyal to the clinton camp and are getting paid to try and sway black voters there way. What they underestimate is the youth movment. We have just as much sense as they do and or had back when they were our age. We have every right to select who we want to lead us.

And anything with all of the problems that are in our communities today. All of these old farts didnt do a damn thing to change the problems that have plagued us since the beginning. They need to go some where and shut the hell up!

@WeSSide Eviscer8r

I resort to name calling because that is all I CAN do. Played out-middle school huh?

Umm.. who will be the next President has already been decided. And YOU have little to say about it…

BARACK! Yes I’m supporting him. It will send a message to GOV. Change is needed. After bush, we need a polar opposite. I can’t believe these civil rights leaders are not supporting Barack, but they are quick to support any bad ass black man/boy that is involved in criminal behavoir. Then they make the criminal look like the victim, and the victim look like a criminal. Oh but they don’t know abou Barack, who is law abiding, married man who doesn’t have outside babies(Jesse), Married to a beautiful, educated, loving, black woman, and has two healthy and smart kids. It’s funny how none of them supported the black woman who was beated, tortured, and force to eat feces by five white people. They got a slap on the wrist. If it would have been a black man they would have been on it.

@ Jerseybred

uhh…those are my words.

YTU gradz…i tell ya…

@Constance

I never did hear what happended to those five ppl. Did they just get a slap on the wrist?

Umm.. who will be the next President has already been decided. And YOU have little to say about it…

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SPEAK!

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@ And…

if u don’t knw about pop warner’s…u tell on urself.

Umm.. who will be the next President has already been decided. And YOU have little to say about it…

Well, I guess there’s no point in voting…*sigh*

Heh, heh. Not only are we whites not redy for a niggra president, but niggras aint redy for a niggra president. KKKrabs in barrel, heh, heh

WeSSide Eviscer8r

@ And…

if u don’t knw about pop warner’s…u tell on urself.

The opportunity for me to learn something from you has passed due to your lack of self control and attitude so I’m done playing with you. I’m in middle school remember?

And…

The majority of Americans voted for John Kerry back in ’04, but who’s president?

The majority of Americans voted for Al Gore back in ’04, but who’s president?

Believe it when I tell you it it’s all a scam. We will most likely be in Iran by the beginning of ’08 -and it won’t matter who’s president.

@Nubian Goddezz: Preach on!!

* back in ’00.

@ AND…

that is still a response.

and, from my estimates, u r a middle school minded slave who adheres to heaven/hell—good/bad—white/black dogma. good luck.

@WeSSide Eviscer8r

estimate: A judgment based on one’s impressions; an opinion.

I’m a middle schooler, what’s your excuse?

In order for a “democracy” to flourish, the citizens need access to the right information. All of your candidates were created by a PR firm on Madison Ave. You’re being programmed who to vote for and don’t even know it…

what exactly does the age of barack’s kids have to do with anything? you don’t hear anyone saying anything about lily white john edward’s kids being young. black folk need to stop tearing eachother down over bullshi%. you don’t have to vote for the brotha, but don’t tear him down in the process.

WeSSide Eviscer8r

@ Jerseybred:

Lol! @ :

“I resort to name calling because that is all I CAN do” — the most accurate thing you said.

funny stuff. and yes, slavery did the entire continent in…but my initial annoyance was due to u snaying that that the Euro slave trade came out of West Africa. That theory is in sync with YTU. I have been taught that the Portuguese set up shop on the East coast of Africa and worked there way to the WeSSide (i can not help it…). As for the name-calling I will cease and desist. Yet, u came at me with something that is inaccurate.

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No, you’re inaccurate.

Seeing how Lagos was founded by the Portuguese in 1472, how could that not have possibly preceded East African explorations that started in 1498?

First of all Hilary Clinton has demonstrated that she can be bought and bullied into changing her position. First she was adamant about being anti-war and did not wantto support the invasion into Iraq. After stating her poistion she then went along to support the war. Secondly she was adamant about her position concerning health care. Once again a change has occured with her being backed by major health/pharamceutical companies. How can you be against the privatization of health care and then have those same people who profit from people’s illnesses be the primary backers of your campaign. For her camp to release a statement concerning Barack saying one thing and doing another is completely Ludicrous! Also, these civil rights actiists are either brainwashed or have blinders on that won’t allow them to see the truth. The issue is not about race. Its about needing a new perspective on an old problem. How can someone say that Barack is too young..at the same time preaching that ‘young people are the future.” Let us also not forget that Bush is older than Barack and was so at the time he entered office. His stint as president has entered the USA into a war that was entered without the consent of its people as well as withou the consent of the UN! The american economy is crashing while negative perceptions of the citizens of the USA are proliferating. If this is the kind of ‘wisdom’ that age brings I think that a NEW, YOUNGER perspective is definetely what is needed for this country to pull itself out of this rut. The propaganda perpetrated by the US gov’t have made ‘minorities’ question the validity of voting for a black man. You shouldn’t question whether you are voting for him because he is black, you should question his worth and intelligence as a future leader. ALSO YOU CANNOT FORGET THE MANY MANY others that will NOT vote for him based solely on his race. Middle and upper class society has created a hegemony of values and desirable traits. If youth and ‘blackness’ fall outside of the desirable and people just accept this as commonplace then Americans are dommed to suffer the same fate of having politicians that care for the few over the needs of the majority!

In order for a “democracy” to flourish, the citizens need access to the right information. All of your candidates were created by a PR firm on Madison Ave. You’re being programmed who to vote for and don’t even know it…

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SPEAK!!!

speak!

SPEAK!!

P.S: The fact that a country misappropriated land and sold people does not make them the “founders” of that country. Lagos (and its people) existed LONNNNNGGGGGG b4 any portuguese or brits came and STOLE the land..just as the pilgrims ‘founded’ the USA while it was already inhabited by the Natives

Nahnah

Its nice to see you have more than enough time to hate. You mention change don’t all presidents promise change. Isn’t that the common thing to do, so if you doubt change will occur why vote at all. Nobody ssaid jump on the Obama wagon I don’t know if I’ve settled with him either but what I am saying is dont hate on a man trying to bring serious change. If anything because you are black you should support him instead of spreading ignorance. WE get one serious canidate and people are hating. Remember that Al Sharpton tried to run for president thats why he isn’t supporting him and so did Jesse, see now thats a Joke…

“Someone needs to tell the old “over the hill” civil rights gang their time is up, that old sh*t is not working”

….WOW…how ignorant is this statement?…How do u think you got many of your rights today? It is thinking like this that is the root cause of SOOO many of our community issues and problems.

@ VA

it is nice to see someone can form their own opinons based on facts that you have gathered. maybe you need to do a write up on allthe canidates and teach somebody something

V.A

P.S: The fact that a country misappropriated land and sold people does not make them the “founders” of that country. Lagos (and its people) existed LONNNNNGGGGGG b4 any portuguese or brits came and STOLE the land..just as the pilgrims ‘founded’ the USA while it was already inhabited by the Natives

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Where did I say that Lagos or West Africa’s existence began with Portugal? I never made the argument.

OK, EXCUSE ME FOR BEING IGNORANT… BUT I THOUGHT HILARY WAS RUNNING, NOT BILL. WTF IS ALL THIS CONSTANT COMPARISON TO BILL CLINTON. YOU PEOPLE BETTER WAKE UP AND SUPPORT BARACK. BILL CLINTON IS NOT RUNNING AND WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT AGAIN!! GET OVER IT. HILARY HAS HER OWN AGENDA AND IT HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH AFRICAN AMERICANS.

Blaqk:

I do sense a bit jealousy from Sharpton and Jackson, but that’s not my concern right now…

Regarding me spreading “hate”, well that word has been bastardized so much where I no longer know the meaning of it. But I’ll tell you one thing: when are you going to challenge me by listing the “changes” Barack is going to make when he become (as if he ever will) president?

@nahnah

Where do you go to get your info. I am learning more and more that the media has a hell of a slant on it. I can’t imagine the internet being too much better. Since I am so young and just recently become interested in politics where can I get real info, whether I agree or not.

SAY THAT MS. KELLY!!!!! YOU ARE RIGHT ON SPOT!

I am not against Obama but I haven’t seen so many black folk fall for the ‘hype’ since Beyonce came on the scene.

AND…

@nahnah

Where do you go to get your info. I am learning more and more that the media has a hell of a slant on it. I can’t imagine the internet being too much better. Since I am so young and just recently become interested in politics where can I get real info, whether I agree or not.

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C-Span offers raw info & allows you to decide. Keith Olberman is a big critic of this admin & provides facts to substantiate his critiques. Foreign media does a better job of covering our news than the U.S. does. The BBC is normally on point.

Be mindful of the language used in news stories so that nothing determines your emotions.

I THINK THAT AS BLACK PEOPLE WE DNT SUPPORT OUR OWN RACE AS MUCH AS WE DO WHITE PEOPLE! SOMBODY STATED EARLIER IN A COMMENT,”WHO WAS BARACK BEFORE NOW”…DOES IT REALLY MATTER IF WE KNEW HIM OR NOT JUST BECAUSE HILARY HAS BEEN IN THE SPOTLIGHT WE WONT TO CHOOSE HER..??? DNT GET ME WRONG IM NOT SAYING VOTE FOR BARACK JUST BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. IM JUST SAYING VOTE FOR THE PERSON BECAUSE OF WHAT HE OR SHE WILL DO FOR THE COMMUNITY…!

@JerseyBred

Thanks

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(Posted September 13, 2007)—Authorities will not pursue hate crime charges in the alleged kidnapping and torture of a Black woman in West Virginia by six White suspects. Instead, prosecutors have decided to issue state charges, which have more severe penalties. In West Virginia, hate crimes carry a sentence of up to ten years, while kidnapping charges could result in a penalty of life in prison.

The six suspects were arrested this week in connection with a horrific set of crimes: kidnapping, sexual assault, malicious wounding and battery of a Charleston, West Virginia, woman for at least one week. It was widely reported that the victim, an African-American 20-year-old, was forced to eat rat and dog feces and drink from a toilet during her captivity. She was also reportedly called a racial slur during the attacks. The six arrested in connection with the alleged abduction, including a mother and son and a mother and daughter, are White.

According to a prosecutor, one of the suspects, Bobby Brewster, 24, had a prior relationship with the victim. Brewster reportedly had been charged in July with domestic battery and assault involving the same woman. All the suspects have criminal records—108 charges since 1991 in total—including a first-degree murder charge filed against Brewster’s mother, Frankie Brewster, 49, in 1994. Brewster pled guilty to a lesser charge of manslaughter and spent five years in prison.

Deputies found the victim at a home in Big Creek, West Virginia, about 35 miles southwest of Charleston, Saturday, September 8, after going there to investigate an anonymous tip. According to the Associated Press, Frankie Brewster sat on the front porch and said she was alone before the victim limped toward the door, her arms outstretched, pleading for help.

The victim, who had stab wounds in her left leg, black eyes and lacerations around her neck, remained hospitalized on Wednesday. All six suspects, ranging in age from 20 to 49, are being held on $100,000 bond each.

Be mindful of the language used in news stories so that nothing determines your emotions.

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There ya go!

In order to get all points of views, read and watch just about everything, but make your own decisions afterwords.

@Constance

My mouth dropped to my desk when I read they would not be charged as hate crimes and then I picked it back up when I read that they were being charges with kidnapping b/c it would be more severe and get them more time in jail. *Side Note * I wonder why jessie, al and andrew aren’t all over this?

HILARY ALL THE WAY

@ Just A Thought, Luvchild, Kara

You are 100% right on. Thank you for your insight.

@WeSSide Eviscer8r

FIRST OF ALL YOU ARE WRONG, BECAUSE YOU ARE SAYING THAT SINCE OBAMA’S ANCESTERS ARE ENSLAVERS(WHICH IS WRONG!!), YOU WOULD NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!! SO BECAUSE MY GRAND PARENTS SUPPOSEDLY DID SOMETHING WRONG IN THE PAST I SHOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT AND PAY THE PRICE???

SECOND THE FACT THAT YOU ARE SAYING THAT AFRICAN ROYALTIES WERE ENSLAVERS IS EVEN DUMBER BECAUSE IT IS NOT ACTUALLY TRUE!!

BECAUSE UNLIKE MOST PEOPLE THINK AFRICANS DID NOT SELL THEIR BROTHERS THEY WERE TAKEN BY FORCE. AFRICANS FOUGHT BUT THEY WERE BEATEN, THAT’S HOW SLAVERY HAPPENED.

WHAT YOUR IGNORANT ASS DO NOT KNOW IS THAT AS ROYALTY IN AFRICA YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE ENSLAVED THAN BE ENSLAVERS BECAUSE EUROPEANS WANTED TO GET RID OF THE ROYALTY, ONCE THEY CONQUERED THEM THEY SENT THEM TO THE PLANTATIONS.

I THINK YOU ARE A RACIST BECAUSE YOU ASSUME THAT THE COLOR OF SOMEONE’S SKIN IS RELATED TO HOW GOOD OF PERSONS THEY ARE.

YOU ARE IGNORANT WHEN YOU THINK YOU ARE ENLIGHTENING ANYBODY ON THIS WEBSITE. BECAUSE YOU READ SOME STUPID BOOKS BY SOME DUMB AUTHORS WHO DID NOT KNOW SQUAT ABOUT AFRICAN HISTORY. YOU’VE BEEN BRAINWASHED MY FRIEND. THAT’S WHY YOU BLAME SLAVERY ON AFRICANS. GO TO AFRICA LEARN THE LANGUAGE AND TALK TO THE HISTORIANS THERE.

I WAS BORN IN GOREE ,SENEGAL WHERE A LOT OF THE BOATS LEFT FOR AMERICA. SO I LEARN THAT FROM AN EARLY AGE FROM THE PEOPLE THERE. IF YOU GO TO AFRICA AND YOU ASK SOMEONE ” WHY YOU SOLD US” THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT YOU WEIRD BECAUSE WE DID NOT SELL YOU GUYS BY CHOICE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE DON’T KNOW BUT A LOT OF FORMER SLAVES DESCENDANT ACTUALLY CAME BACK TO AFRICA TO SELL SLAVES( THAT’S HOW YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN WEST AFRICA WITH LAST EUROPEANS LASTNAMES LIKE : JOHNSON, lAWSON, BRUCE, DA SILVEIRA).

NO BOOKS IS GOING TO TELL YOU THE REAL STORY GO TO THE PLACE WHERE THINGS HAPPENED!!!

SO BROTHER BECAUSE YOU GO TO SOME HBCU DOES NOT MAKE YOU SMARTER THAN SOMEONE WHO GOES TO A NORMAL UNIVERSITY. IT IS HOW YOU LOOK FOR YOUR INFORMATION. SO SHUT UP!! U DO NOT KNOW SQUAT. WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS LIKE THE DUMBEST STORY I EVER HEARD!! LOL

From the Back

The name is Steve Cokely and the word is “Boule”.

You need to get some Free Smart.

I’m mad I joined this conversation so late.

I agree with nahnah (as usual) on the fact that Democrat/Republican party is a joke (among other things). It’s basically an illusion created to make us think we have multiple choices to vote for…really, they’re the same party.

Why do ppl still call Clinton ‘black’. Because he played the saxaphone? Cause he’s got a little afro!?!? LMAO. Ridiculous. Thank you to whoever mentioned his non-action on the Rwandan genocide.

And as for Obama being Kenyan. Just because his ancestors didn’t go through the Atlantic Slave Trade, doesn’t mean they weren’t heavily affected by COLONIALISM, which was another tool of white supremacy. Colonialism was debilitating physical, mental and economic oppression that Africans throughout the continent are still dealing with today. Let’s not forget that it was only 40 some years ago that Kenya got it’s independence, along with most other countries in Africa.

Thats is very stupid of someone who is suppose to be a civil rights leader to make a comment that Clinton is blacker than Obama. The way you act or what you do is not what makes you black, an for a civil rights leader to say that what are you fighting for, you are just feedig into the sterotypes to say he is more black cause he PROBALLY dated black women an Obama is MARRIED to a black woman. People say Clinton is black because of stuff he has did that is not really the best as far as morals like sleeping with Monica L, why would you as a black person try to make someone who is remembered for scandal an try to make them out to be more black than a actual black man. Thats just plain dumb!!

if us as american would ever elect a president with a muslim background, we would be driving nails in our own coffin. Barack is muslim and he is scared to admit his religion. He grw up muslim, and their beliefs contradict every christan belief that this country was founded. But i guess as black folk will vote for him becuase he is cool. Their is no way a person of muslim decent should every be able to run our country

i bet most people on hear who are democrat, dont even know the history behind ti and why most balck sare democrat

“CRABS IN A BARREL”

Nuff Said!

@JJones -

Not Debating, just want to clarify:

If you delve back far enough into our Ancestry, you will find that Islam was our native Religion.

Please,Please do your Research B4 Posting.

….and We were forced into Slavery and “Christianity” was a Tool used by the Slave Masters as a means of Control, once we reached the Good ol USA.

to be honest, i really dont care about ancestry or history. i understand that it is part of our past but it is so far gone that we cant keep using that as an excuse to justify or crucify or way of thinking. All i know is what little of my history (1845-present) that i know and it never included muslim

JJones Wrote:

“to be honest, i really dont care about ancestry or history”

That is all I need to know about you.

Peace and Blessings

Here are some things to think about. We should never be in the business of disrespecting those that have fought for Civil Rights and helped each of us to live the lives we do today. We may not agree with them but we should not intentionally disregard their work. Also it’s hard to name 4-5 young black people (under 40) that have the influence that the aforementioned people have and could also be considered able to speak on behalf African-Americans. I believe that Rev. Jackson, Rev. Sharpton and some other black leaders understand that they have to be subdued in their support for him since they themselves are polarizing figures that could cost him votes. That’s why Oprah can readily endorse Obama because she is not considered a divisive figure but has influence in several different communities and cultures. Think about it.

I have lost all respect for Andrew Young. Sit your old ass down.

The picture of the Obamas is that of a lovely family.

Damn, JJones, you’re one ignorant bafoon. I hope you’re not proud.

^^^ i mean if that AFRICAN stuff floats your boat, you cant say iam ignorant because you dont agree with me. I feel for people to still use slavery, africa, and other related issue in their decision making is silly. If you are passionate about Africa and feel so connected, why dont your move their. I bet you probably dont even send money over their or any other kind of mission work. But like most people you feel that if you just “dont forget” you are doing your part.

“Bill (Clinton) is every bit as black as Barack,” he said. “He has probably gone out with more black women than Barack.”

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No Mr Young. Bill never WENT OUT with black women. He may have sexed a few on the side, but he never went out with any. Thats the whole point. Men like him don’t mind having a black woman as a jump off… but being out in public with them is another story.

JFK was one of our greatest presidents… and he was younger than Barack when he took office. So how is Barack too young??

Andrew Young needs to go sit down somewhere. Is he being paid off by the Clintons to say this dumb stuff to undermine Barack? Hmmm

Jesse Jackson – adulterer who produced a child outside of his marriage.

Al Sharpton – no clear agenda except for personal publicity and limelight.

Andrew Young – globetrots pretending to help “our people” only to make his pockets fatter.

^^^ okay now name the good

Why you niggras tryin to reinvent the wheel, just vote white, cuz deep down you no its right, heh, heh.

Obama = Celebrity

Obama = AIPAC Puppet

Obama = Typical Democrat

Obama = Closted War-monger

@jjones

Youre just plain stupid.

I’m not pretending to be a cracker. I’m black, and have always said I’m black as long as I’ve been on this site. I dont even know what youre talking about.

You say I’m “degrading” people on this site. If you had any common sense, you’d see the only person I was “degrading”was Bill Clinton. But you’re ignorant, so you cant understand that.

I don’t argue with fools, so I’m done with you. I made my point, and my point stands.

PS.

I can see from your post that you dont have a good grasp on proper English grammar or comprehension. So before you put me on blast maybe you should go back to school, ok?

(I hate arguing with semi-literate fools on the internet.)

Obama = Distraction.

Obama = Media Creation.

Also, kerry did not win the popular vote in 2004. check your facts nahnah.

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yes he did. he won both the popular and electoral vote. the president was stolen twice, 2000 and 2004. in 2004, ohio was stolen, which was planned in advance.

just lost a bit of respect for Mr. Young. If he is going to support Hillary, then he should just list why. To try to spew reasons to detract from Obama, which these comments lack intellectual and common sense, puts Mr. Young in a negative light.

Nah Nah please stop spreading your ignorance.

A simple google search of Hillary and Baracks proposals for Health Care will show the difference between a consumer requirement and AFFORDABLE health care.

Also Hillary voted to vote the Iranian military as a terrorist organization which essentially authorizes military strikes against Iran. Barack and every other democratic nominee is against this.

Barack Obama does not accept money from Political activists committees, and lobbyist. Hillary does.

Barack Obama has been agianst the Iraq war from the start. Hillary has gone back and forth.

Now as for the democrats and the republicans either being similiar or identical, child you need to do your research. Just because both parties pose moderates as chief representatives (i.e. presidential elections) does not mean that fringes are similiar, and it certainly doesn’t mean the whips of either party allow centrist positions. In other words pick just about any vote in Washington and you will see the vote divided largely along party lines… the parties are very much opposing and starkly contrasting.

I’m tired of ignorant people and their faux knowledge and unfounded conspiracy theories distracting blacks from the political process. I have an Ivy league degree and am working on a master’s… You trying to tell me you know more than me and my professors combined. You don’t know the first thing about research, and you quite frankly suck at vague theorizing. Moreover. HO SIT DOWN!!!

How disrespectful! How could you all ever refer to a leader such as Andrew Young as a ho – WTF!?! You show a lack of respect for yourself by not showing respect to this man!

nahnah the election 2000 yes. 2004, no. Kerry didnt even protest the result. The idea of the 2004 election being rigged is a conspiracy theory.

@ nahnah

“yes he did. he won both the popular and electoral vote. the president was stolen twice, 2000 and 2004. in 2004, ohio was stolen, which was planned in advance.”

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Would you like to provide some proof to verify your above statement? Maybe a link to a website (not some conspiracy site either). Like maybe some facts from CNN, or FoxNews, or MSNBC, or… I’ll even take facts from BET for that matter. Or are you just repeating something you have heard?

Pierce

Phukk Barack for attempting to make himself palatable to the undersireable element – white america – so that he could become President in the first place …

@ MISEDUCATION OF WESSIDE EVISCERATOR:

“SO BROTHER BECAUSE YOU GO TO SOME HBCU DOES NOT MAKE YOU SMARTER THAN SOMEONE WHO GOES TO A NORMAL UNIVERSITY.”

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U real funny…is it because u r not from this country that u write in all caps? quit talkin loud…

but the real question is, why you seem to think an HBCU (Historically Black College or University) is not “normal?” What, might i ask is a “normal” university. and quiet as its kept, and of course this is a generalization, but in my travels, u Africans over there are more brainwashed than the ones born over here. i bet u have a real nice cowrie necklace too. yeah, *yawns* quit talkin loud and get off my name.

With that remark about Clinton dating more Black women than Obama..

Young earns a special place in the Handkerchief Heads for Hillary Bleachers.

Negro, Please!

They are getting ridiculous. The way they are twisting themselves inside and out for Hillary….pathetic.

You should be ashamed of yourself, dissin an HBCU by calling YTU – whitey university – a “normal” university …

Well, could you at least go to your YTU and take a grammar and composition class, and a typing class please??

@ wonkwonk….

that’s what i’m sayin…

@ lily white:

That’s what i’m sayin…

test…

my comment is awaiting moderation, huh?

Elijah & Pierce:

I responded to you guys but it says my comment is ‘awaiting moderation’. Not sure if it will appear, but oh well…

“Conspiracy Theory” is another term that has been bastardized beyond repair. It’s been used against those who refuse to go with the lies of the government and corporate media.

The fact is, if you and I go rob a bank together, we’re conspiring to commit a crime – and the two of us being suspects by law enforcement is a conspiracy theory, which they must prove, before they can proceed with punishment.

Similarily, the widespread belief that Osama Bin laden blew up the World Trade Center is a conspiracy theory – as this claim has yet to be proven. In other words, we are all conspiracy theorist. It’s that just some theories, usually those that are more “stomachable”, are believed more than others. Simple as that.

Regarding the stolen 2004 Elections…Evidence suggest that my conspiracy theory makes sense…

- Fact: Ohio has always been a key state for Republicans as no Republican candidate has EVER won the presidency without winning Ohio.

- Fact: Ohio had, and still have, one of the highest rates of unemployment since Bush stole the elections in 2000, which prompted A LOT of his supporters to shift gear. In result, several pre-election polls indicated that Kerry was the man for Ohio residents.

abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=178949

sptimes.com/2004/06/29/Worldandnation/The_fight_for_Ohio_wa.shtml

- Fact 3. Bush visited Ohio 27 times during his campaign, as he knew the importance of winning (or in his case, stealing) Ohio.

- Fact 4. Exit polls clearly showed a win for John Kerry in Ohio, until…(mystery)

original exit polls: exitpollz.org/cnn2004epolls/Pres_epolls/OH_P.html, before the mystery began…

In fact, I saw it with my own two eyes, as I followed the elections via CNN and CNN only.

I have not owned a television since 1999.

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More…

_ In Youngstown, 25 electronic machines transferred an unknown number of votes for Sen. John F. Kerry (D-Mass.) to the Bush column.

_ In Toledo, Dayton, Columbus and Akron, and on the campuses at Ohio State and Kenyon, long lines formed on Election Day, and hundreds of voters stood in the rain for hours. In Columbus, Sarah Locke, 54, drove to vote with her daughter and her parents at a church in the predominantly black southeast. It was jammed. Old women leaned heavily on walkers, and some people walked out, complaining that bosses would not excuse their lateness.

_ In northeastern Ohio, in the fading industrial city of Youngstown, Jeanne White, a veteran voter and manager at the Buckeye Review, an African American newspaper, stepped into the booth, pushed the button for Kerry — and watched her vote jump to the Bush column. “I saw what happened; I started screaming: ‘They’re cheating again and they’re starting early!’ “

washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A64737-2004Dec14?language=printer

More on the stolen elections of 2004…

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Machine glitch gave Bush extra Ohio votes

COLUMBUS, Ohio – An error with an electronic voting system gave President Bush 3,893 extra votes in suburban Columbus, elections officials said.

Franklin County’s unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry’s 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct. Bush’s total should have been recorded as 365.

Bush won the state by more than 136,000 votes, according to unofficial results, and Kerry conceded the election on Wednesday after saying that 155,000 provisional ballots yet to be counted in Ohio would not change the result.

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Deducting the erroneous Bush votes from his total could not change the election’s outcome, and there were no signs of other errors in Ohio’s electronic machines, said Carlo LoParo, spokesman for Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell.

Franklin is the only Ohio county to use Danaher Controls Inc.’s ELECTronic 1242, an older-style touch-screen voting system. Danaher did not immediately return a message for comment.

Sean Greene, research director with the nonpartisan Election Reform Information Project, said that while the glitch appeared minor “that could change if more of these stories start coming out.”

msnbc.msn.com/id/6418513/

@Nahnah,

Sorry I have to intervene:

Barack Obama has always said the USA should have direct meeting with Iran on a “carrot and stick basis”

Hillary Clinton said that she would not meet with Iran until they did what the US wanted.

then she called Barack’s idea “a sign of his inexperience”

( all of this happened in the second Democratic debate, I am sure it’s on Youtube.

Barack abstained from that the Iran Republican Guards vote and Hillary flew back to Washington to vote with Bush and the Republicans.

Experience: Hillary has only one+ year of Senatorial experience over Barack.

Being the wife of a doctor doesn’t mean you can operate on people.

clarification: I included Senator Obama’s Illinois Senate term in his senatorial time.

wow.. what a joke! Someone PSed his photos into some nude ones and then uploaded them to the famous sugar daddy seeking club seekingsugar.com. These pictures are telling people he is seeking a sugar baby.. i guess it might be a joke on him!

Seth:

For a man who’s running on the basis of “change”, he sure miss a lot of votes, wouldn’t you say?

As much as I’m not impressed by the two, I would be more fearful of one who doesn’t take action, whether good or bad, as I don’t know where he stands.

Hilary maybe a wishy washer, but at least I know doesn’t keep her war mongering a secret.

looks like clinton took away someone’s food stamps.

& HELL TO THE NO I AM NOT VOTING FOR OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK….I LLOOOOVVEE WHAT HE STANDS FOR I TRUST HIM HE MAKES ME FEEL LIKE I CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD HE INSPIRES ME I FEEL POSITIVE ENERGY LIKE GOD IS USING HIM AS A PAWN..I DO RESEARCH ON ROBERT KENNEDY & JFK & MLK & LISTEN TO THERE PASS SPEECHES HE HAS SIMILARITIES TO THESE MEN I LOOK AT AS GREAT MEN I LIKE HIS VALUES HE MAKES ME FEEL PROUD TO BE BLACK TO SEE A POSITIVE EDUCATED STRONG BROTHER WHO GIVE LOVE TO ALL PEOPLE & RECEIVE LOVE FROM ALL PEOPLE…ALL IM SYING IS PEOPLE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH DONT TALK ABOUT THE MAN IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO HE IS MAKE IT YOUR BUSINESS TO FIND OUT WHO HE IS…IF YOU CAN GET ON THESE BLOGS & GOSSIP ABOUT CELEBS THAN YOU CAN DO A THOROUGH RESEARCH ON ALL THESE CANDIDATES. & NO OBAMA IS NOT PERFECT & I LOVE THAT ABOUT HIM A POLITICIAN WHO SPEAKS ABOUT THERE FLAWS OPENLY INSTEAD OF SWEEPING IT UNDER A RUG LIKE OTHERS A POLITICIAN WHO IS FINALLY TRANSPARENT…FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SAY THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BTWN BARACK & HILLARY YOUR MORE IGNORANT THAN I THOUGHT IT SHOWS YOU HAVE NOT BEEN WATCHING THIS PRESIDENTIAL RACE CLOSELY. PEACE & GOD BLESS

IM FIRED UP & READY TO GO!!!!!!

LET’S CHANGE THE WORLD PEOPLE!!!

This is exactly why black people can’t get anywhere!!!!! People always have negative things to say about each other, and it only brings us down as a race. Blacks openly criticize; Oprah, Barrack, AND a long list of others who are actually empowering the Black community. I have NO respect for Sharpton or Jackson!!!!

But all Hillary is doing is slandering her opponents, we want to hear about what she is gonna do with the economy because we are in a recession. What are they gonna do about the war and social security. There are alot of different subjects she could discuss about her stategy to put this country back on its feet! Save the slander for democractic debates!

This was a low blow about dating white women and what this man stands for. I respect him not because he is black but because he has enough heart to run this country knowing that racism is at it’s all time high, worse then the 70′s and this is because of alot of reasons.People are looking pass his blackness and really supporting him because of what he stands for.It would’nt surprise me if Al, Andrew, and Jesse were getting paid to say these dumb ass comments that have nothing to do with him running for President. Bill got his dick sucked in the Oval office we know he’s a black man, That don’t mean Hillary is the right candidate because we all loved her husband. She is a strong woman but I believe since Obama is on her trail and have big folks backin him, she pullin any card she can. And you know Black folks love the Clintons so much some are still riding with them, I’ve been also check out other canidates besides these two!

This is exactly why black people can’t get anywhere!!!!!

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Ok, let me get this straight…

Black people ain’t going nowhere because we all don’t support Barack Obama?

Seriously, your comments would make sense under the notion that all black people are saints who does not deserve to be torn down. Furthermore, if all black people shared the same views, then you’d make better sense.

*who do not

voting for Obama will be like marrying someone you only known for a few weeks. All you know is what other people tell you about them, but you really dont know for yourself. You see that person as being good and the right person for you because they “TELL” you they go to church, got a good job, and their opinions on certain issues but you really dont have any history to go on.

what do yall think about the white girl who won president of the NAACP at Georgetown University?

@jjones: Agreed, but we don’t really know about any politician until we see where the money pipeline into their campaigns start at. If Andrew Young’s comments have done anything, they have demonstrated to me that the black vote is very very important and that for many years our vote has always been deemed unimportant. There has been too much emphasis to discourage Blacks from Obama. I wonder what the Democratic party would do if Obama did win the primaries? Perhaps we have more “power” in the Democratic party than they want us to believe.

Wow…269 comments and excluding the outright racist, pointless and misinformed ones, the other 21 comments are dogging on the poster for something s/he didn’t actually say.

@ nahnah:

i get that comment awaiting moderation stuff too. i thought it had something to do with sending too many links…then i thought it was subject matter…not sure what that is all about.

i read ur posts on this joint, and in various other threads and i do appreciate ur words, views and refreshing approach to issues which are obviously dear to u. please, continue to hem these fools up. democrats or republicans? that is some played out sh*t for real.

@ AND… sho nuff

@nahnah – you’re wrong again… OBAMA is not a media distraction or invention. He has grassroots support from all over America – because he inspires and offers and different path forward. WTFU

nahnah,

I have been able to successfully include one link in a post. So maybe, the site is “alerted” when a post contains more than one link. Thanks. I would imagine, then, to post multiple links…take off the dubya dubya dubya part…

*tips hat*

Y’all still arguing lol.

yeah, i had to take off the h t t p and dubya dubya dubya parts, and they worked fine.

Black ppl need to get it together 4 reel!!! and our black politicians need to stop hatin on barack because he is going alot further than they have gone! and if clinton was such a great president why are black people doing worse.

OBAMA 2008

Whether Obama wins the nomination or not, he has forever changed America.

Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ran for President. No one seriously thought they would get any nomination or any cabinet post.

Jackson and Shaprton have run to every racially tragic event and have kept media and public attention on them. That said, neither of them have ever enacted a law or brought forth any idea that’s affected public policy. The above mentioned know that they have no place in an Obama campaign. This man is serious. He’s not doing this to increase his speech fees or notoriety.

Barack Obama has been elected to office, is an Attorney; has practiced law. He is involved in the inner workings of our government. He is running to win, not just for best in show.

I think Jackson, Sharpton and Andrew Young never had the viability that the Obama campaign has. This man could just be the next President of the U.S.

Like it or not, we black people don’t by ourselves have the numbers to elect a president. If we never again voted as a racial group, whites alone, can elect a president. Many whites support Obama, they too are tired of the status quo in this country. Douglas Wilder was elected Governor of Virginia( the Old Dominion)by whites no less.

I have always admired Hillary Clinton for her intelligence. Lately, with her floundering answers and double speak, I don’t trust her. Obama answers the questions put before him, he explains why he thinks the way he does. We can never know what an elected president will do in office(except with Bush, we all knew he was an idiot)but, I have a hard time voting for anyone I don’t trust, even a little.

Obama ’08 all the way!!!.

jjones:

what does his religion have to do with anything?

Bush is a Christian, yet he’s a warmongering criminal. So whaddup wit dat?

“Barack For Change” is simply a UNIQUE SELLING PROPOSITION and something that any person who took a marketing course should be familiar with.

If by “change” he means a half black, biracial man in office, as opposed to the typical WASPS that have dominated the white house since the theft of this land, then I’d agree. Otherwise, I have yet to see the change he’s referring to here. And his avid supporters have yet to list them, even after 284 posts on this thread.

So, my inclination is what it was before, since not one person was able to convince me that he ain’t a typical Democrat congress critter.

The majority of these “presidential hopefuls” will continue Bush’s disastrous path – and that’s for sure.

I disagree with his statement but I remeber him from srudying civil rights and he is one of the reasons I was able to walk across the campus of my university, the reason I can walk in the front door of any store or mall or restaurant.

MAD respect to Andrew Young!

The Rwandan genocide happened during the Clinton administration.

Obama is not the black Messiah. Wake up. Read between the lines of Young’s statement. There is a LOT more then meets the eye with this whole situation. Before you jump on that Obama bandwagon do a little research please.

The celebrity disses are all fun and games. The political arena, not something to toy with.

No one is saying that Obama is the black messiah. But the reason why Jesse and Rev. Al have access to power is because they showed how valuable the black vote was during their presidential campaigns. I am appalled that the civil rights leadership would attack Obama with such stupidity. I don’t know if I will vote for Obama in the general election, but I will definitely vote for him in the general election. The Democratic party needs to hear their base roar instead of trying to appease the “Reagan Democrats”. The U.S. is not going to put a black man in office and if it were not for Bill Clinton, they wouldn’t even think about Hilary. So why all the amunition and artillery pointed at Obama? Is it a covert message to Black voters to mind our place?

also nahnah, your theory on the stolen election doesnt add up. literally. some anecdotal evidience and exit POLLS are not concrete. Was John Kerry in on the fraud? Why did he not challenge the outcome?

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Well, duh! If it were proven, then Bush would probably be locked up right now. But STRONG EVIDENCE suggest that the 2004 election was stolen, and I’m inclined to believe that it was. And the fact that John Kerry said little to nothing means what? NOTHING. The problems lie in those who refuse to take the evidence for what they’re worth.

- Voting machines ALL OVER THE COUNTRY were giving Bush extra votes and literally transfering Kerry’s votes Bush. The media was reporting them as “glitches”, but was it a coincidence that these “glitches” favored Bush? Better yet, was it a coincidence that these “glitches” favored Bush in the swing state of OHIO?

- Was it a coincidence that the rate of voter disenfrishment occured in the swing state of OHIO?

- Even the Government Accountability Office, found overwhelming evidence of possible fraud, especially in OHIO. gao.gov/new.items/d05956.pdf

- DEAD people were voting for Bush.

- UNDERAGED people were voting for Bush.

- INVISIBLE people were voting for Bush, as he was receiving more votes in some counties (ESPECIALLY IN OHIO) than there were people!

The fact is, the media has done an excellent job keeping the 2004 election scandal out of public eye. In fact, when the Democrats (Obama was nowhere to be found, btw!) forced a debate on the fraud issue, C-SPAN was the ONLY outlet that felt the responsibility to broadcast it. CNNABCNBCFOX refused. Unfortunately, nothing came out of it since the Republicans were in control of Congress at that time. And of course, those weak Democrat congress critters allowed the evil Republicans to undermine their efforts at democracy by constantly ridiculing them as “conspiracy theorists”. But, as you can see, I won’t allow the bastardization of that term to get to me, so keep on…

Oh yeah, you might want to do some research on EXIT POLLS, because they NEVER tell a lie. Especially in this case where the predictions of the original exit polls, was showing Kerry as too far ahead of Bush.

The funny thing is that same year around the same time, the Ukranian election was rigged, and the people, unlike the dumb Americans, took the streets and forced the Supreme Court to do a recount. And…

Ta da! The original “loser”(Viktor Yushchenko), who was actually the winner, was declared president two months later.

SIGH.

Old school is right — old school coons. Jackson and Young are still as narcissistic as ever. They both wanted to be Presidential candidates at one time, and they are jealous that’s all. Two old spooks sitting by the door.

Another example of “black folk crab mentality”. The civil rights leaders of our past are like BetaMax, rotary phone, outhouse folk who just never upgraded. They never came up with new solutions to our problems. So when a newcomer comes in, “Oh, he too young!!” Ah, shuddup!!

As for going to a black church or black community, kissing babies and singing spirituals, IT MUST STOP!! When the election is over, the photo op is over. We go back to our PJ’s, our FEMA trailers, and our low paying jobs until the next four years when they “need black people”. Am I bitter? Yes, I am!

Why is it that everytime it’s time to weigh in in the black community the media ALWAYS references the views of Jesse Jackson and Rev. Al Sharton. There are far more people more reflective of contemporary issues facing the black community. These two crooks are out of touch and out of date and do not represent MY people or MY generation. I wish you all would STOP!

@ jjones dec 7:34pm^^^

Obama was raised muslim, and is still a muslim.

…america was built on (Christianity).

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Obama Barack was raised secular and is a devout Christian.

Faux news deliberately started the erroneous reports that O.B. was a muslim, like a year, maybe a year and and half, ago.

btw, america was built by the blood and labor of enslaved Africans. Christianity and racism are only two of the many instruments that were used by the White male rulers to keep their american kingdom in tact. imho, christianity is no better than islam. Africans were enslaved by both so-called christians and so-called muslims. the african slaves and their descendants brought to the “new world” are disdainfully called niggers. the african slaves that were sold to the farthermost part of eastern Africa, or the “middle east” are disdainfully called, “ibn.” what’s the difference? a “b,” two ‘g’s,” an “e,” and an “r.”

^^^Barack Obama…B.O. (giggles) , i meant B.O…

I like Barack. I will vote for him! There is some haterism in that Jesse never really had a shot…Barack Does. Personally I agree that Barack should be better insulated, but the CBC should be insuring that he is. White folks insulate other white folks whether they like them or not ALL of the TIME. so really WTF. And I applaud Barack for his choice in a wife. Truth be told he had justified reason to mary a white woman. Number one, his mother is white; number two, his mother raised him…and number three HIS MAMA WHITE!!! so wtf barack is as close to the truth as we are gonna get!

WeSSide Eviscer8r

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? Perhaps, you need to read history before you judge people. Kenya is in EAST AFRICA, and where slaves came from is WESTERN Africa. So there would be no way on HELL that a Kenyan was apart of the West African slave trade. They did not

1.) Sell

2.) Buy

3.) Encourage!

WHat is the difference between Nigerian (West African) and Kenyan (East Africa), both are Bantu, both look the same, just different language.

lmao at messy jessy and that other man cupcaking in that picture. classy

lmao at messy jessy and that other man cupcakin in that photo.

Bill commits adultery with many black women, so he is blacker than a black man, so vote for Bill’s wife. Obama does not commit adultery, so he is not as black as Bill. You see, all black men commit adultery, and that is a signal of their manhood and just how black they are. If you have a wife and don’t cheat on her, you are not worthy of a black persons vote, huh?

The black slave owners and slave overseerers also had sex with lot’s of black women. Did that make their wives qualified to be president of the united states?

This is some of the sickest stuff to ever come out of the Clinton sewers.

Please don’t sleep on Obama! I believe that he is hiding something.

Barack wants t get rid of AFFIRMATIVE ACTION that is why our leaders wont back him. Which is why Oprah is working so hard because he is not getting the support from the civil rights leaders

@ hmmmmm…

my bad! in these posts i have been referring to Kenya, or the Republic of Kenya, which is located in East Africa, bordered by Somalia (E), by the Indian Ocean (SE), by Tanzania (S), by Lake Victoria (Victoria Nyanza) (SW), by Uganda (W), by Sudan (NW), and by Ethiopia (N). Nairobi is its capital and largest city. Now, in that Kenya, slavery was and STILL is one of its most precious commercial resources. WHY DO U MORONIC HALF-WITS BELIEVE THAT SLAVERY ONLY REFERS TO WHAT HAPPENED IN THE UNITED STATES??????? GOT-DAYUUMMMMMMM!!!!! YES, IT’s TRUE THAT WESTERN AFRICANS WERE “SMARTER” FOR WHAT THE ATLANTIC SLAVE TRADERS NEEDED, but stop with the slaves came out West Africa nonsense. go tell that to the descendants of Somalains, Tanzanians, Kenyans, etc., living not only in America, but in Iraq, Iran and the rest of the Middle East. for u hmmmmmm, go to dubya dubya dubya dot gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Kenya.htm

read the information provided there and then get back at me as u need to know what the fucc u r talking about b4 u come at me about Kenya and its role in slavery.

^^^

i meant to say, “not only in the Americas…”

le dilemme d’une grande partie de notre communauté noire Notamment la generation des Années soixante. comme Andrew youg qui soutient Officiellement Hillary clinton. ils font partie de cette generation de negre qui doute qu’un des leurs puissent encore acceder a la fonction supreme.

(BARCK president 08)

Vive Barack Obama

the arab slave trade…

the ottoman empire…

the atlantic slave trade…

the u.s. empire…