BLACK BARNEY

NO NO

SORRY SORRY!!

lol

Fourth!

No surprise that the church would allow him to perform there.

None at all. None whatsoever.

http://www.theblackactor.com

^^SURE MONEY

He was said to be found at a millionaire&celebrity dating club ‘meet rich,com’ not long before, and he is hot there.Quite a few girls and ladies write to him.OMG!

Bahama Mama, I see what you’re sayin’.

thats right!

he’s gross. a sexual predator, even.

Smack in the middle of Inglewood (up to no good…) The church at the Forum will the take dough from the show Friday and alter call him for repentence on Sunday, lol.

OMG!!!! HE WAS SAID TO BE FOUND…..CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE THIS FOOL A THESAURUS…

^^^^ms. collins,

actually, idiot, 14 years old is NOT of age. regardless of how “hot” in the ass she was, or impressed by his celebrity, she was still a CHILD. I guess if r. kelly peed on your 14 year old daughter you’d just be like, “oh well, you little hoe, you knew better!” and just let r. kelly off the hook.

it’s dumb hoes like you that will believe your boyfriend over your daughter if she claims he was molesting her; you’ll put a man over your child.

so maricón…

@Denebolo….You got it!

@I Stay SMH…. for the love of money…

who got the next verse?

Hey, Ms. Collins, you dropped something.

……,,,,,,,!!!!!!!???????

Punctuation. It’s your friend. Use it.

If you look at it that way, then no one would perform in the Forum. If it’s not child molestation, then it’s something else.

All have sinned. PERIOD. I applaud their protest, because his case should have been heard long ago. But if you’re going to say that the church should ban him because he’s a child molester, then what about artists who are drug users, or who overeat (yes, it’s called gluttony and it’s a sin too). What about artists who lie? Who steal? Where’s the line? God does not differentiate in the sin. Sin is sin – period. So if you feel that this church should question the moral integrity of anyone that wants to use the facility, then the church should just sell the Forum altogether because no one is worthy – not even them (the church itself)!

THE BLACK CHURCH AIN’T WHAT IT USE TO BE. IT USE TO CARE ABOUT THE WELL-BEING OF BLACK PEOPLE. NO WONDER SO MANY OF US ARE JOINING THE MUSLIM FAITH BECAUSE TOO MANY OF THESE PREACHERS ARE NOTHING BUT PIMPS AND ALL THEY CARE ABOUT IS MONEY.

I AGREE WITH TITI

IMHO, Rob Kelly has some serious mental issues with himself, his mother(RIP), females of all ages, but especially 16 and under. But he ain’t no different than any other dude of any race that likes younger women to a point of risking his freedom. He’s not sick imho you guys. He just has a thing for younger women. And old girl in the video that we all saw was a pro. It was wrong for him to do what he did but he was not or didn’t seem to be taking advantage of her. Aalyiyah(RIP) I don’t know about. I’m from the D and even my city didn’t have an uproar when they got married and yes they were married for real. @ this point I don’t think he can be helped because of his own ego(human flaw) and all the yes people constantly around him. I’m not a fan of his but I don’t like folks who just pass judgement and that’s it. We’re all human y’all.

ew that belt- what is he wearing – freak! nasty man!

Don’t let the Flaws of man draw you away from God.

Everything in America is MEGA even the churches.

I would never give these crooks my STACKs. Rev. Run, Touch Down Jake, pastor Mason, creflo Dollar, and the list goes on an on. I thought it was bad in the South but Cali is just as bad.

http://www.myspace.com/jeanineishot

http://www.myspace.com/jeanineishot

All i see when I see him in this pose is him saying…”SEXUAL CHOCOLATE”…(droppin the mike, opening his arms, and a silent room).

NAJEE ALI DID THIS BACK IN 2003 WHEN R CAME TO THE FORUM. SOME IGNORED HIM AND WENT ON IN THE SHOW AND MANY VERBALLY ATTACKED NAJEE THEN WENT INTO THE SHOW. NAJEE DIDNT CHANGE ANYTHING BACK THEN AND HES NOT GONNA CHANGE ANYTHING THIS TIME AROUND. HE NEEDS TO WORRY ABOUT HIS MILE LONG CRIMINAL RECORD. CAUSE GOD DOESNT FORGET AND NAJEE WILL ALSO BE JUDGED ON JUDGEMENT DAY.

In my opinion, Mr. Kelly should cease performing and stick solely to writing and/or producing songs for other artists. Hi image is far too tarnished….

Peein on a kid ain’t rape. That stuff washes off and she coulda walked out if she didn’t like it. Stop tryin ta keep a black man from gettin his groove on…

Whoops…

Co-sign with Hazelnut Until R. Kelly goes to jail I feel that he should produce music. I can’t believe I just said that! I am glad someone choose to stand up against the force, being black and a woman in this world is a bad combination I bet 90% of the protest came from women so GOOD LUCK in being heard! Remember those who take a stand leave a mark!

A little humor for the morning, take off preacher robe.lol Folks this is the infamous forum, alot more things have happened there. Before the Lakers moved to the Staples Center Magic and Kareem and Cheerleaders all had orgies, cheerleaders and groupies on their knees getting supersoaked I mean c’mon…alot worse has happened!

@ Bones Jordan

With all due respect his actions come under statutory RAPE!!!!!!!

This is the problem, people still supporting his triflin self. Wake up people. If it was your sister, cousin, etc would you feel the same way? Money rules over everything huh? The man got caught with his pants down, literally.

For THOSE that continue to say that 14-16 year-old is a child… I Seriously question your parenting skills or your position as a Parent!!!

A child can’t cook, drive a car, balance a checkbook, obtain a real job in the work force, attend college w/o supervision, willingly have consentual sex, etc… BECAUSE Children (Those that have Parents) don’t have to worry about those kind of things!!!

I personally Don’t Respect Grown-Ass men who chase after H.S. Female students (It’s Disgusting) But the Sad Reality is that it’s Very Common in our society… It didn’t Begin with R. Kelly and It isn’t going to stop if R. Kelly was to go to jail today!!!

The Catholic Church HAS BEEN RAPING Innocent CHILDREN For Years (And THEY STILL DO)… I SAID CHILDREN ( NOT TEENAGERS !!!!! )

And before any of you Stupid Individuals comment, PLEASE read my commnets FIRST

1 comment : Nasty F’er!!

@ BONES JORDAN. Sorry…but he is rapist…legally. Have you ever heard of statutory RAPE? He is well over the age of 18 and she is well under the age of 18. So, yes, legally HE IS A RAPIST!!! And yes, according to those guidelines, at least in my state (TEXAS–and I’m sure in his state also) he RAPED her even if the sex was consensual…which it was. And yes I did see the nasty videotape. The tape is evidence that he has been having sex with that young girl for a long time. People dont do weird things like urinate on people the first time they have sex. AND he is a rapist, pedophile, child molester, and any other sick thing that has to do with sex…he needs help!

NASTY MAN! EW EW EW EW EW

BUM LICKING IS JUST DISGUSTING

AND BUM LICKING A KID SMH I JUST DON’T UNDERSTAND THIS WORLD SOMETIMES………..

@ELOve

In the eyes of the law, teenagers are minors, and adults who have sex with them are considered rapists. My opinion about this maybe shaded cause I was a victim of molestation as a child, but I think no child or teen should have sex-that should be for when they are legally adults. That’s my view. R. Kelly is wrong and criminal.

His one of many who looks @ kids/lil gurl- in the wrong!

People, be carefully with you lil ones, please.

in the worng way- sorry

was too busy cringing

No matter how “fast” that 14 year old was (and obviously she was not a virgin and had seen plenty), he was the adult and should never have been in that position. Adults practice restraint. But, more than that, this man has definite issues when it comes to young girls, a lot like Michael Jackson and young boys. Pedophilia is an illness that no amount of excuses can defend. Had it been one of my daughters, my sons would have dealt with him long before now.

i lost respect for r.kelly because his music sucks now i miss the old kelly now he caters young teens and children ( lmao lmao lmao) anyway his old ass needs to sit down now booo

who gave him that belt ugh that belt seen more young coochie than a pedofile under a slide

To those of you that say she consented so it wasn’t rape at all, in the eyes of the law, at 14, although she was a teenager, you are considered a child until you are of legal age (18/21). A child cannot consent to a sex act or even be held liable in contract law. You cannot have a legally binding agreement (consensual) with a minor.

R Kelly disgusts me.

I live in LA and I will be right there PROTESTING…

@ bones jordan

b/c he doesn’t stand in doorways trying to attract little girls getting off a school bus does not mean he’s not a pedophile. Anyone who has sex with underage kids is sick and should be stopped by any means necessary.

@ Just Moi…thanks )

@ Bones Jordan Thanks for admitting what you said. I understand your point…you are right about the sex being consensual…but when it comes to age…consensual sex could also be rape. R-Kelly should really be in prison. He should do his prison time and when he gets out he should be a registered sex offender on the sex offender registry and he should have the same stigma other sex offenders have. We have to protect our children and teach them right from wrong. If we don’t then who will? We also have to keep them from pedophiles and this man has all kinds of kids at his concerts…its just not right. He must be paying the judge, prosecutors and everyone else in his county millions! Thats why they let him go on tour! LOL! So they can get paid too! That just wouldnt happen in TEXAS. His ass would have bene in prison…getting raped and beat up…along time ago.

LOL @ the comments. LAWDY, It’s too early. Lacyd, I see aint doin no work!

Faithful Central will def lose members behind this….

Why is this clown flaunting around in nttn but purp, looking like a combo of Barney & that one Care Bear…Kellz plz consult more than one stylist b4 you take it public…

Churches are so fake and hypocritical anyway. Ya’ll are just finding this out.

Churches are about the money just like everyone else. Why they have so many baskets for you to put money in. God said tithe. Not make a preacher deacon fund to buy him a car and fancy house. So many funds just to run one church. Everyone wants the big church, and the TD bishop fame. All phoney, man.

Church is a business just like everything else.

Ok i’ll say probably 95% are phoney churches.

JEZEBEL REMEMBER THE KIDS LIKED BARNEY AND THE CARE BEARS THAT COLOR IS TO LURE THEM TO HIS PLAYGROUND .

People who do not see anything wrong with what Rkelly did should not even have kids.

They are the phoniest people you will meet b/c it okay b/c he has money but if it was their child a different story.

Those who claim it could be his brother or is he has not been convicted yet are the devils soldiers. Evil trickery just like with eve. Right is right and wrong is wrong.

People are always trying to make a gray area so they can do what the want but it is very black/white. Right is right and wrong is wrong.

if the tickets are already sold, this protest won’t mean much ’cause R Kelly will have already made his money

What else do you expect from the church?

I mean really.

Good for Protest Against Pedophiles. If I lived in L.A. I would be there.

Ms. Collins…do the world a favor…keep your legs closed and stay off your back cause you having a child is a BAD idea.

@ j jones my bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ wtf I DONT CARE WHAT YOU SAY YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABORTED!!!!!!!!!!!!

@TLATRICE…I did read (not scan) your post. And also, you made your point much more CLEARER this time around. The first time I understood your post as “All have sinned so who cares what about R’Kelly’s sexual sins against kids…let him perform! What about the other sinners that perform there?? Ban them too!” That’s how I understood your first post. But clearly, that wasn’t your point. My bad. But yes it does seem like the church is supporting him and his sinful nature. And it seems like that church has its own issues with sin…so maybe he should be there. But I am no one to judge.

Ah yes…RELIGION proves itself WORTHLESS again.

@MS.COLLINS…you’re an IDIOT.

@ DR.FUNK i will take that

Why does his crotch look like a vajayjay??! And the belt? Too much!

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LET ME MAKE MY SELF CLEAR! THERE ARE CHILDEREN IN THE SYSTEM THAT IS BEING RAPE AND MOLESTED BY THEIR FOSTER PARENTS, AND NO ONE IS SAYING A THING! THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR NO GROWN MAN TO HAVE SEX WITH A TEENAGE GIRL! BUT FOR TI TI TO SAY THAT I SHOULDNT HAVE KIDS DUE TO THE FACT OF MY STATEMENT IS NOT COOL WITH ME SO I WROTE MY SECOUND COMMENT OUT OF ANGER! BUT I HAVE CALMED DOWN! BACK TO MY COMMENT I AM NOT SAYING THAT ITS RIGHT BUT WHY IS IT WRONG WHEN SHE AGREED TO IT! NOW WE CAN GO BACK IN HISTORY TO WHEN THE BOY IN GEORGIA WAS GIVEN HEAD AND WAS SENTENCED TO 10 YEARS IN PRISON FOR AN ACT THAT THE ALLEGGED RAPE VICTOM PERFORMED! I AM SAYING IF YOU GONE LOCK HIM UP OR YOU WANT HIM TO GO TO JAIL FOR SOMETHING LET IT BE A REAL CRIME CAUSE IN THIS CASE IT WASN’T! THATS IT!

Ms. Collins:

This is some ignorant sh*t for real! You can’t be for real! SHM

R Kelly needs to spends some quality time behind bars and aways for minors!

I’m still trying to figure out why people are still supporting this fool.

I get it, as long as he brings good music!

No homo…??

@ OC BRAWLER

YOU DONT UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU HAVENT BEEN IN THOSE SHOES YOU HAVENT BEEN RAPED OR MOLESTED SO YOU WOULDNT UNDERSTAND WHERE I AM COMING FROM! THERE IS A DIFFERENCE: BECAUSE IF SOMEONE FORCE YOU TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM WITH OUT YOUR CONSENT AND DO THE MOST UNTHINKABLE THINGS TO YOU YOU WOULD NEVER FORGET IT EVER IT WOULD HAUNT YOU FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE! YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO MAINTANE A RELATIONSHIP WITH A MAN EVER YOU WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO COPE ONLY A FEW HAVE GOTTEN OVER THAT HORRIBLE PAST! YOU GO THROUGH TONS OF THERAPY AND STILL DONT GET RELIEF! SO AGAIN I SAY SHE AINT NO VICTOM SHE AINT WORRIED BOUT THIS LIKE THAT SHE WANTED TO DO IT HER CHOICE! BUT I DONT AGREE TO IT I JUST DONT WANT PEOPLE TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE SHE WAS SO INNOCENT CAUSE SHE SURE AS HELL WASNT!

The ‘CHURCH’ is doing what they are supposed to be doing. Letting God be his judge! We should try it!!

Black people can “ack” like that nasty kneegrow don’t like underage puss…but let him come near my sister…it’ll be on and poppin…

@ms collins

i’m very disturbed by the comments that you have made. the reason that people are attacking you is, if you go back and read what you said, you have placed blame everywhere but on kelly where it belongs. a child that has a bad parent needs our protection MORE not less. if her mother is irresponsible then that doesn’t mean that its okay for an adult to take advantage of her. as far as her ‘liking it’ that is the most disgusting and inappropriate thing i’ve read on a website in a long time. children that are molested are often drawn in by the attention that they are getting from the pedophile that they don’t get in other areas of their lives. if you knew anything about child abuse you would know that inappropriate sexual contact often feels good, but that doesn’t make it okay, and it doesn’t mean that the child isn’t being damaged by it. i’m not going to call you names, because i don’t do that, but you really need to take some time to think about your position if you can’t see that a grown man peeing on a 14 year old girl, no matter what her reaction, is wrong. period. if we don’t care about what happens to our daughters, then who will?

Ms. Collins don’t fret. You are entitled to your opinion. Only a bit%$ would compare statutory to actual molestation. Because that’s the case people. Yes I do think its crazy that an man/woman could be involved with someone society considers underage. Everyone keeps assuming that he used his celebrity status to get some @$$ when she could have just given it up because she wanted to. Remember what ‘Statutory’ means people. And TiTi calm down cuz. It is not that serious to attack a persons character over blogs

am i the only one who thought his belt was a frog and not a tongue?!?! now that somebody said it, i totally see the tongue but does anybody see the frog outline or am i just crazy?!

Wish I could make it to the protest.

amen!

I guess you aren’t innocent until proven guilty in this country.

@REGINA THANKS! I UNDERSTAND WHERE EVERYONE IS COMING FROM! I JUST KNOW IT WAS WRONG ALL THE WAY AROUND! NOT JUST ON KELLS END BUT HE LIKE YOUNG GIRLS AND SO DOES THE MEN IN YOUR OWN NEIGHBOR HOOD! BUT WE CAN END THIS BY RAISING OUR KIDS RIGHT AND YES @ IHATEALLIES KELLY IS AT FAULT IF YOU READ IT IT SAYS THAT DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT! NOT THAT SHE DESERVED TO GET PEED ON THAT IS HORRIBLE! BUT MY CHILD IS TWO AND HATE TO BE WET WILL THROW A FIT AND WOULD LET YOU KNOW THATS WRONG MOMMY! THATS ALL! BUT THANKS FOR READING MY COMMENT!

having been the victim of sexual molestation myself, I co-sign Sun Goddess’ comments and have to say I was pretty upset w/ms collins comments…

i don’t understand how people continue to support him, financially or even hypothetically – he is obviously very, very sick. i think mj is weird and perhaps sick. however, i don’t believe there are any tapes of mj in a circle jerk w/anybody. the rkelly ish is on tape, a tape i’ve never seen and don’t care to see.

Ms. Collins, I got ya back because that is the exact problem. Everyone wants to be judge and jury but got a cemetery in their closet. I have been violated by older men and also raped before by cat in my age range. And guess what, I still think its wrong to crucify someone for one crime and not another. Like Ms. Collins said WE SUPPORT DRUG USE, DEALING, PRE-MARITAL SEX, AND LESBIANISM. So get a clue. Its all wrong not just what we choose to have an issue with. I have a daughter and a son that I would KILL somebody over if they are ever taken advantage of. But the reality is this, if either of them decide to pursue a relationship with someone over the age of 18 while they are still underage I will be upset. I will think that the person is a bit twisted. BUT TAKING SEX AND IT BEING GIVEN TO YOU IS NOT, I REPEAT NOTTTT the same thing. I hope my children stay grounded and hold true to the values I have instilled in them. But if they stray its not a reflection on my parenting, its the way life goes. By the way all of y’all with your claws out for Ms. Collins, either you don’t have any children anyway (men and women who have commented) or ‘YOU’ are not living in the real world. Just because her opinion is not what you want it to be doesn’t make her the idiot. YALL DUMB@$$es are the ignorant Effing idiots for not respecting someone Else’s opinion whether or not you agree with it.

@ AWAKE I AM NOT ON KELLY SIDE IT WAS WRONG AND THATS A FACT RE READ MY COMMENTS AND NOT PUT YOUR PAST FEELINGS IN IT CAUSE I AM PRETTY SURE IF YOU SEEN THAT TAPE THAT YOUR WHOLE MIND FRAME WOULD BE DIFFERENT! SHE WAS ON TOP OF HIM THE WHOLE TIME AND HE GAVE HER MONEY AT THE END AND SHE WAS LAUGHING! SO YES IT WAS WRONG AND YEAH MY COMMENTS ARE A LITTLE HARSH BUT REALITY IS IT HAPPENED! SO THEY BOTH WRONG! WOULD YOU BLAME THE PARENT OR CHILD IN THIS CASE? WHO TAUGHT HER AT 14 TO DO THOSE THINGS??

@ ms. collins and regina -

yall are two of the stupidest women that have ever posted a blog in here, and there have been plenty. Somebody should have told you two when you have nothing intelligent to say, stfu!

I think he is an absolute disgust to all Black men. Any person who feels he should be left alone to “do his thing” oh and ” stop trying to keep a brother down” are insane. Yes I know she was “ready” but as a young person, they never know the extent of their behaviors. as a grown person I dont care if she had her legs wide open, he should’ve said no, but thats the difference between a REAL man and a dog. DOgs love to just nut off in whatever, it is F*&king SICK.

I refuse to watch the tape… The blame ultimately rests w/R. Kelly in my opinion. This isn’t the first minor he’s been involved with. Not sure whether Alliyah was either – probably going to get a sh!t storm of comments about bringing her up, may she rest in peace. I believe he’s also settled out of court in a few other cases. People who’ve seen the tape (people I know who’ve seen it) say that it doesn’t appear to be the first time he’s had sex w/the girl. There’s plenty of blame to go around from the girl’s parents, to her, but again, ultimately to R. Kelly who’s job as someone else pointed out earlier, is to show restraint.

Don’t want to get into a posting argument w/anyone else, but I have kids and think I do live in the real world. I can’t control what the kids do when they are away from me and perhaps aren’t where they say they are. I can try to raise them right, instill values, love them so their self-esteem is high enough where they hopefully won’t fall prey to some sick mf like R. Kelly, provide for them so that they won’t fall prey, etc… I respect your comments, just found your first comment a tad upsetting…

@ WTF YOU HAVENT SAID ANYTHING YET. SO I BELIEVE YOU DONT HAVE NOTHING TO SAY! JUST DONT COMMENT! WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING WTF”?

^ @khourin

A dog in the gutter will spread their legs if you rub their belly. Would you have sex with that dog also?

Oh and to collins i can’t even add the ms to your name, u sound really detached from reality, and I am not judging u, I will however pray for u. Squishy D and Regina, you sound absolutely ignorant and wake up we must protect the youth, they are the ones to take care of us as we age…. In this society we need to empower our young women, this girl in the tape clearly felt her power was in between her legs. Someone needed to sit her down and talk to her.

@ AWAKE OKAY THATS IT ITS OVER BUT PLEASE DONT WATCH THE TAPE BECAUSE YOU WOULD BECOME OVER THE BORDER WITH PROTECTION WITH YOUR CHILDREN BUT PLEASE RAISE THEM RIGHT AND PLEASE TRY NOT TO SUGAR COAT THE TRUTH BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WOULD GIVE IT TO THEM BLOOD RAW! BUT YOU SEEM LIKE A WONDERFUL HUMAN BEING ! AND THAT YOU GOT YOUR HEAD ON STRAIGHT SO KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

awake -

I totally agree with what you have said. This girl met him through her aunt, who worked with him and who he had promised help getting into the business. Her father was also in his band at the time. Think the whole damn fam was trying so hard to make some $$$ off their association with R. Kelley they probably turned the other cheek when they saw them together. They should all be locked up with R. Kelley now.

This girl’s aunt even tried to make a little noise when the tape came out, only to be silenced by some $$$ later on. Don’t know what the father had to say when the ish hit the fan. He might still be working for him.

If you had seen the tape you would have saw that that kid had seen a lot in her young age. She had moves a 40 year old probably wouldn’t know. Bottom line, though, she was still a kid trying to act like an adult.

“PLEASE TRY NOT TO SUGAR COAT THE TRUTH BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WOULD GIVE IT TO THEM BLOOD RAW!”?????????????????????????

What a horrible thing to say. If you are someone’s parent, I hope somebody else is helping you raise that child. You are really sick.

@ohnoudient… I AGREE with everything you said except for “she was still a kid trying to act like an adult”

She was still a H.S. Teenager trying to act like an adult Sexually

@ khourin

That’s the difference between a man and a boy. Nice to have someone intelligent to converse with, instead of these asinine posts from ppl that don’t seem to find anything wrong with a man having sex with a child. Hell, they don’t even realize that she was a child. They think b/c she acted like an adult that that makes her an adult. I have to believe they are kids themselves.

elove -

that makes her a child

@ OHNOUDIENT YOU NEED TO CHILL THE FCUK OUT YOU ARE SO BUSY TRYING TO READ INTO WHAT I WAS SAYING OPEN YOUR MIND I WAS NOT SAYING ANYTHING WRONG I MEAN TRUTHFULLY DONT HIDE NOTHING FROM THEM CAUSE THEY WOULD FIND OUT THE HARD WAY! IS THAT MORE OF YOUR LIKIN STUPID! AND TRUST MY CHILD WOULD BE GREAT AND I MEAN THAT!

@ohnoudient

So if a 14-16 year old is a CHILD… Then WHEN does a High School Student becomes a teenager ???

And WHEN does a teeager become a Young Adult???

Read lil mama @collins -

I wasn’t trying to read anything into your post, I read it EXACTLY, WORD FOR WORD. Don’t cringe now that you are reading it also. You said it, now be woman enough to stand by it. You haven’t had one intelligent thing to say since you got here.

“PLEASE TRY NOT TO SUGAR COAT THE TRUTH BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE WOULD GIVE IT TO THEM BLOOD RAW!

Those were your words. Stupid, huh? I’m not even going to stoop to your level with the name calling, b/c everyone in this room has their mind made up about you from your posts. I need not say another word. You did it all yourself. lol

um elove -

A teenager is a child!!! Ask your parents. You keep talking about high school like that is the turning point. The law says 18 or 21. Don’t think, unless they are challenged, that someone 18 or 21 would still be in high school (although some 18 year olds are still in high school for a host of reasons, they are the exception). If they haven’t reached 18 or 21, they are considered children BY LAW. Sorry if I’m stepping on egos here, but facts are facts.

@ Collins -

You need to chill out until you grow up and learn a thing or two. This might come as a shock to you, but you don’t know anything yet, which is apparent by your insane posts. And you can take the rest of your class with you.

@ ms collins, I agree with u about the choices, and I respect the fact u mentioned you do care about the youth. Its just I know first hand of how it goes. I was a teen mom and the guy was much older, The word choice at that time meant should I wear these jeans with this top. As an adult I fully understand the word choice equals outcome. Being a young person, the elder knows how to manipulate.

regina -

although you may not believe this, I am sorry you went thru that but the person this girl chose should be locked the eff up, just like the person you chose all those years ago. You were also too young to consent, although you seem to want to take all the blame. If he was an adult, he knew better!!! Nuff said

I dont want to jump into yalls argument…I just have a small thing to say. I have TWO DEGREES in CRIMINAL JUSTICE–LAW ENFORCEMENT and I work for CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES here in my state. Now for everyone saying that a 14 year old or a teenager is not a child…you are DEAD WRONG!. You are wrong according to law enforcement and you are wrong according to CPS. ANYONE UNDER THE AGE OF 18 IS A CHILD!!!!!! PERIOD!! Some states (very few) you have to be 21 to be considered an adult. If you are a teenager, pre-teen, adolescent, toddler, or an infant, you are a child!! If you are under 18 and you are intelligent like an adult or not, you are still considered a child. PERIOD! Now, yall can go back to arguing about whatever but she is indeed a CHILD…whether if you like it or not. Try to tell R-Kelly’s prosecutor that he wasnt haven’t sex with a child…they will laugh at your ass!

ALL of yall need to leave Regina and Ms. Collins alone. They are entitled to their own opinion. Damn, yall act like yall want to kill them. Calm down and STFU!

R. Kelly looks a damn fool in that picture. It’s almost as creepy as when he wears that mask.

Anyway, at this point I don’t blame R. Kelly. I am in no way letting Kelly off the hook, but if the church’s (Faithful Central) pastor, who also owns the Forum, really wanted to practice what he preaches, he would not accept R. Kelly or any other secular acts to perform there. It’s one thing for a sinner to come into the church and listen to the word, and another to allow him/her to come and spew his/her own sinister thoughts and acts, even if the people who attend the concert are different from those of the church. This is obviously about the money. I live in LA and since The Staple’s Center (a newer arena, which is home to the Lakers and Clippers) has been open, The Forum has been losing its game/concert revenue to it. This is a great way (and I don’t mean that very positively) for the pastor to make more profits for himself, ahem, I mean the church.

Well, I’ve been to Faithful Central a few times, and it’s nothing to brag about, unless you enjoy having your Sunday service in crowded arena seating. I prefer a smaller, more personal setting, where the pastor actually knows my name because he knows me, not my signature on my check.

“No matter what area of ministry we are involved in with the youth, we believe that young people are very precious and dear to the heart of God” <<<< Here’s a little quote from the church’s website. LOL and SMH!!!

@ silhouette

I don’t understand ANY church accepting money from R. Kelley.

@ read this -

This is exactly why ppl like R. Kelley, Michael Jackson, etc. are able to get away with their dirt, most ppl are still blaming the victim. No matter how experienced that girl was, she was still a child.

B4 I get a lot of grief from yall, my last post was aimed at pedophiles in general.

Okay well let me just throw my 2 cents in. I BELIEVE that kells is at fault for what happened. She was a minor, period. However, I feel that the child knew what she was doing. whether it was for fame, fortune, the feel, whatever. I didnt see the tape and dont want to. The question is now, What do we do to prevent things like this from happening to anymore of our daughters? ya’ll arguin about stuff thats irrelevant. where’s your depth?

@read this… YOU MEAN Like I’m laughing at you Right Now

Look EVERYONE on this thread KNOWS about the law (Federal and State) when it comes to being a minor and adult… WE also know that laws have changed over the years as well… and WE also know the purpose of laws and WHY law makers do what they do

Now with that said IMO A High School student is a teenager… I don’t think any parent would get arrested if they left their son/daughter who is of H.S. age at home alone until they came home from work would be arrested… But I’m quite sure if you left your son/daughter that is 10 years old or younger YOU can and will be arretsed!!!

@Regina…I didn’t even step to your waste of sperm behind the sperm donor should have shot it in your moms mouth like usual….FALL BACK TRICK.

@ WTF…Wow…that was the rudest meanest comment I have ever heard, read, or whatever…Damn. That hurts.

Faithful Central is foul. If they have church services @ the Forum Sunday morning and AC/DC in concert at the same location Sunday night, that should tell you something. (True story.) Faithful Central can’t pay its mortgage without renting out the Forum. The Grand Dragon of the KKK could rent the Forum to hold a conference on white supremacy in 2008 and FC would take his money.

To add to some of the comments that a few sistas posted earlier, when you have been raped, molested, abused and/or taken advantage as a child, a story like this can strike a chord. There is a reason why the law protects grown men and women from having sex with children. A child’s mind and body are not developed enough to deal with the consequences and responsibilities that go along with sex and sexual behavior. It is our responsibility as adults to protect children not to violate them.

I had men flirt with me and hit on me when I was as young as 8. I had men who behaved inappropriately with me and around me as early as age 6. What people may not realize is that, even though something inappropriate (and unlawful) takes place in your life when you are so young, you never forget it. It’s not to say that it dances through your head on a daily basis, but it has a tendency to rear its head at the most inconvenient times. It is both painful and embarrassing and being a victim of abuse can hinder your personal relationship when you reach adulthood. It can also affect your sexual preference. (I’ve known several women who were molested for years as children who never want a man to touch them again. It is so sad.)

R. Kelly and black men as a whole need to be taught how to be more sexually aware without being so sexually aggressive. Put your sexuality in its proper context and don’t devote all 24 hours in a given day to chasing women and what is covered by our undergarments. People can disagree, but I think the Black male (mis)treatment of Black women is the reason why there are fewer Black families now than ever and it is the reason why Black women (in a lot of cases) look elsewhere for companionship. When you seek a companion, you seek comfort. How are you comfortable with someone (especially a complete stranger) constantly lusting after you without respecting you? When enough of the same race or class of men mistreat you, at some point, you don’t want any of them saying anything to you, especially when each bad experience seems to chip away at you.

What I’m trying to say is Black people need to stop being so vulgar when it comes to sex and sexuality. White people urinate and defacate on each other, but who of sound mind would ever think of such a thing? If you have to deviate that far to the left in order to seek sexual satisfaction/gratification, what you really need is psychiatric counseling. Black people used to lead, now negroes want to follow what they see the white man do because they think that it’s ok now that they have a few dollars. The double standard is alive and well, and Black men ought to recognize and acknowledge that they are an endangered species.

We are not desperate people, so why act as such? In my opinion, it is questionable for a 30 year-old to pursue a 20 year-old, more or less for a man in his 20′s or 30′s to have sex with a teenager. What do you have in common with someone that young? You can’t even take them to a bar or a club because they’re underage.

Anyone who watches someone grow up and then dates them (Chilli when she was with Usher) needs his or her head examined, too.

We can do better and we need to do better.

@ wtf let me tell you a thing or two you……….. you know what your mother must aint hug you enough when you was little you probably dont even know your father and that aint even the half seems to me you dont know your true purpose in life? let me say this do you even know who you are? i may comment on this but let me get back to my roots lets start from the top we can go way back to before you was even thought about do you know what god concept of life was when he created it? do you know what he was thinking? do you ever wonder who created god? from where did it all start from where will it all end?how? what? who? why? when? you dont have common sense and you blind as hell to the truth! god bless your soul!

@ Swami…PREACH!!!! AMEN!!

@ Ms. Collins and Regina…Yall shouldn’t even entertain stupid ass WTF. Clearly, s/he has some mental issues. WTF can’t even disagree with yall without disrespecting yall. Yall can have yall’s opinion without stupid people like that. WTF is insane to say some evil crap like that. Just ignore people like him/her. Clearly, WTF needs to be in a psychiatric ward! LMAO!

NOW CAN WE MOVE TO THE NEXT BLOG

now what does he have on in this pic..it looks a little less than hetero.

I’m glad people are protesting…whether she wanted it or not he seriously has a problem and it’s nasty he should’ve clearly said no, but anyways besides the fact I’m still wondering how he seems to escape every single court case and get to go on tour…no house arrest no nothing?

I see wtf is trying to post with my name. THAT WAS NOT ME POSTING!!!

Why can’t ppl be adults and use their own names? Again, wtf is not me. I do not demean ppl. I do not agree w/ms. collins or regina, but I do not insult ppl in my blogs.

It doesn’t matter if the girl in the tape was ‘willing’ or ‘asked for it’ or whatever the stupid excuses you people use to justify or support Robert Kelly. She was still underage, and that makes the situation statutory rape. (And please, stop boozing on the caps lock. lol). Lastly, molestation and rape is not the same thing. The act of raping involves penetration, molesting does not.

Re: Bones Jordan/Ohnoudient

Don’t worry, the parents already got the money they asked for when their children were “molested”. They cool now! LMAO. SMH @ fools comparing Michael Jackson to R.Kelly. The latter is undisputed, the former is not. This is getting sad and far reaching now. Michael Jackson can’t “get away” from something he didn’t commit. Keep wasting your sympathy on money hungry parents who have manipulated their children. Don’t bring someone off topic in regards to a real offended.

He has little girls too. They better not bring any of their friends around their daddy, that’s for sure.

@ angel

You have a point about parallels between R. Kelley and MJ. Those girls are willing (as much as any child can be) participants as opposed to little boys that are being introduced to masturbation. I stand corrected in that. But, if you read a little more, I did qualify it earlier saying I was generalizing pedophilia, and in saying that I say I do believe MJ is guilty as hell, although him and R. Kelley are two sides of the same coin b/c I see those girls as kids as well.

Don’t think Chili is that much older than Usher to have watched him grow up @swami

Think the difference in their ages in something like 6-7 years. She’s older, but not by that much.

For once today, I agree w/elove. I would never leave a 10 year old child home alone and definitely not a 7 year old for any length of time @read this

@ohnoudient… I’ve BEEN Right about everything I’ve said on this post

Alot of the posting as had Some Validity and Some have been on-point but the LAW isn’t absolute in anyway. A Minor by law can be an infant, a child and a teenager and when it comes to mental capabilities, behavior and physical development a MINOR the age of 14-18 years of age is considered a teenager ( Not a Child )

And yes I do understand that this is My Opinion

And for the MANY that don’t read to well… In my very first comment on this post I stated that ANY MAN that chooses to chase after teenage H.S. females is DISGUSTING and this kind of behavior shouldn’t be tolerated AT ALL !!!!!

Ohnoudient:

Chilli gave an interview herself and said that she “watched Usher grow up” (both personally and in the industry). Then a relationship culminated later. Contrary to your opinion, Chilli isn’t 33 or 34. TLC came out in ’93 (?) They were 20 or 21 back then by their own admission. You do the math.

Usher began traveling with Puffy when he was about 12 years-old. Usher’s mother handed her baby over to Puffy, so she has no one else to blame but herself if she’s unhappy with his choice of a wife. If he’s been choosing older women all this time, that is his subliminal way of saying, “I need nurturing” aka I need my mother. I am not saying there is anything wrong with an age gap when you have an adult couple, but please be over 25.

*correction, they were 21 and 22.

then, why did he post a personal ad to Richromances.com?

…R. Kelly rules….:>)

rofl @elove

okay….

Re: ohnoudient

How can a 14 year old boy be “introduced” to masturbation? I mean really? lol I don’t see how you can be agreeing with my point when I am disagree with you. lol Did you read the Gavin Arvizo’s testimony? (the accuser)? He was straight LYING. He contradicted himself several times, as well with the other testimonies of his brother, sister AND the mother.

SEND HIS NASTY ASS TO JAIL.

@ angel -

You have a point about parallels between R. Kelley and MJ. Those girls are willing (as much as any child can be) participants as opposed to little boys that are being introduced to masturbation. I stand corrected in that. But, if you read a little more, I did qualify it earlier saying I was generalizing pedophilia, and in saying that I say I do believe MJ is guilty as hell, although him and R. Kelley are two sides of the same coin b/c I see those girls as kids as well.

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Did you read ANYWHERE in that post where I said MJ introduced a 14 year old to masturbation? Didn’t think so. Dont put your own interpretation to what I said. When MJ SEXUALLY ABUSED THAT CHILD (and he did), he was much younger. We only learned of it later. And, we all know the family was hard up for money and the mother pimped her kids out basically. I see from what you said that you think MJ is innocent. OOOOkay….

Oh, and by the way, who cares if you disagree with me? Who are you the blog monitor? Kids….

…the only thing you said that I agreed with was the fact that I was speaking of Kelley and MJ as if their cases were similar… PERIOD

Both are sick and have a thing about kids, one young fast girls, the other little innocent boys

Ms. Collins, I agree with you. Ain’t no 14 year old of mine going to be up in no man’s face much less his house and I don’t know where he/she is. These kids these days fight grownups on the subway and get in their faces on the daily. I don’t have any respect for none of ‘em period.

Ms. Collins

I agree with u 100%, I’ve seen the tape and this girl was not behaving like any 14yr old I know. She was handling dat D… like a pro, hell if anything she should get locked because none of our men safe. Who can compete with her. Just imagine what’s doing know as a grown woman. I was 14 once, but I was rise to have self respect and not to mention my mom was always aware of commings & goings at all times. Yes, kids are to do things, but this was not a 1st time thing for her, she’s just trash. I have no sympathy for her. My heart goes out to any child who’s been molested, rape or harm in any way, but like I said ole girl was pro then and 8 yrs. later she’s a HO! Mrs. Andrea Kelly stand by our man, continue to raise your kids just as you’ve always done. This too shall pass. Robert keep making your baby making music for anther 17yrs. And ladies stop allowing society to raise your kids and try doing it yourself.

The issue here is not whether we like R.kellys music or not. The issue is not whether or not the young girl wanted to have sex with him or not. The issue is that an older man had sex with a young girl who was not 18 yet. That is statutory rape. That’s the issue, and nothing else. The law against statutory rape is there for a reason. Yes, the young girls may want this, and they may be hoes, but when they are younger than 18, they are considered minors. Adults 18 years of older often prey on younger girls because younger girls are usually flattered by that, and are definitely less mature. It happens all of the time, and it is sick and wrong, and so we have this law. The problem that we encounter is when we have people, like some have on this board talking about anything besides the fact that what he did was wrong and that he should be punished. To state that “she knew what she was doing, or she wanted it, or that other men have commited the same crime” is not only pointless, but it serves to sugar-coat an obvious crime, and it is really ignorant.

WTF??!!