Conservative White Folks Upset Over Obama Bow to Arabs

Posted on April 10th, 2009 - By Bossip Staff

Categories: Barack Obama, Bolitics, News

Posted by Bossip Staff

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You know if that retard Bush did this, these shady characters wouldn’t have anything to say:

It was the bow seen around the world.

Last week, President Obama greeted King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia with what appeared to be a bow, outraging conservatives who say the leader of the free world has no business bending over to foreigners. But the White House denies that the president bowed.

A video of the greeting shows Obama significantly stooping before the 84-year-old monarch. The alleged bow left a bitter taste with many conservatives.

“By bending over to show greater respect to Islam, the U.S. president belittled the power and independence of the United States,” the Washington Times said in an editorial.

“Such an act is a traditional obeisance befitting a king’s subjects, not his peer.”

State department protocol prohibits presidents from bowing to any one. But other presidents have flirted with breaking it. President Clinton apparently semi-bowed to Japan’s Emperor Akihito but the White House said it was a slight tilt. And while President Bush never bowed to King Abdullah, he famously held hands with him in 2005 while walking on his ranch in Texas. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs addressed the issue Thursday when he denied that the president bowed.

“I think he bent over with both hands to shake his hand,” Gibbs said before asking why the incident was being raised a week after it happened.When a reporter said people were still discussing the incident, Gibbs used his signature sarcasm to dismiss the claim. “I can only imagine it is of great cause and concern for many people struggling with the economy,” he said.

What if he did bow to cultural “royalty” other than those in England?

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  • http://www.gravatar.com Re

    So they’d like Michelle Obama to show “respect” to the “queen” of England, but Obama can’t show respect to Arab cultures?

    I see their point, but that doesn’t mean Obama is going to start serving this guy tea and clean his shoes.

  • http://bossip.com This some shhhh…

    Get a life conservatives.

  • http://bossip.com This some shhhh…

    All I can hear is Ice Cube singing, Bow down to a force that’s greater than you.

  • G_Smooth1

    He is showing dude respect in his hope. Obama could have pulled a Rick James and started jumping on dude’s shit.

  • HELLO GOODBYE

    3rd..eff them

  • G_Smooth1

    oops, ‘hope’should have been ‘home’(dont know wtf I was thinking)

  • Cadence

    If God in the flesh can come down and wash filthy sinner’s feet then who are to be above humility. Stupid.

  • http://mockrockstar.ning.com Mock Rock Star

    I think he was just doing it out of respect

  • Eva

    G_SMooth:

    Hahahahahaha. I have a bad cold and you got me coughing like crazy. Lord, help me, I don’t wanna start coughing up blood. Lol.

  • woke up out my bed,turn my swag ooooooon!

    any body throw a shoe at obama im pluggin em

  • woke up out my bed,turn my swag ooooooon!

    (no homo)

  • Lady Next Door

    I do not want to talk about Mr. Obama this time. I I want to talk about the ignorance of the United States of America. This dominant culture of a people called White Anglo Saxon Protestants are hypocrites. They always have been hypocrites and they always will be hypocrites. The Catholics in Europe slaughtered anyone and everyone who was not Catholic or who rejected the teachings; but since the concept of the colonies in the 17th century, all the English-Americans have done is slaughtered anyone and everyone who was not White Anglo Saxon Protestant or who rejected the teachings. This attitude justifies their imperialism over the West, and it is no different with the perspective of Islam and Arab Americans.

  • Lady Next Door

    You know what? I am tired of the word ‘swag’. Why dod men in hip hop say ‘swag’? ‘Swag’rhymes with ‘fag’. when I say fag, I am not talking about a cigarette. Most rapper that are popular are so because they are gay.

  • http://bossip.com This some shhhh…

    Good Friday….I’m out…EeeeeHeeeeHee.Who’s Bad?

  • LOON

    is a form of respect, f*ck the conservatives.

  • John

    Excuses, Excuses! We all know if this was Bush all Black people would say is how he is kissing their butts for the OIL. It does not matter what Obama does Black people and liberals will find any reason to make EXCUSES for him. You don’t see a problem because most of you are bowing down to him and have made him your God. I hope when you lose your job, can’t pay your mortgage or get sick you can pray to Obama and he will answer.
    Why does everything always have to be conservative this and cracker that. This is the real ignorance. Try being objective sometime. Just because Obama does it does not make it right. I guess as far as some of you are concerned Black is always right. If he bowed to the guy he bowed and guess what, no cracker or conservative made him do it. Ignorance, “Dude just trying to show respect”, how about Black people start showing respect to each other and stop shooting and killing one another. Or how about stop making life so hard for other Black people. How about showing some respect? How about showing respect and stop calling one another the N-word. I bet when this post someone will say I need to sit down and shut up or something of that nature. Thanks for the respect. Hey how about all Black people start bowing to one another. That will not happen, because most of you think you are God’s gift to the world and that your s*** don’t stink. How about showing some respect and giving back to your community and not thinking about what you can get from it. Black people still have a long way to go even with a President of color.

  • woke up out my bed,turn my swag oooooon!

    lady next door
    im not gay if your refering to me.

  • BKLYNZ OWN (Thank God Its Payday)

    THEM CRACKAZ ALWAYS GOTTA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT NOTHING

  • BKLYNZ OWN (Thank God Its Payday)

    JOHN
    YOUR TAKING THIS WAY TOO SERIOUS.ITS CALLED COMMON COURTESY.THE GOOD BOOK SAYS WHEN YOU GO TO ROME DO WAT THE ROMANS DO.THATS IT.

  • NO SIRR

    ok so I the spin the Obama admnistration is now taking to this is that he is much taller than the Saudi king so he had to bend down slightly to shake his hands… Funny have you seen how short Queen Elizabeth is he didnt so much as incline forward to shake hands with her…
    Furthermore for those of you that are saying he is just following their protocal he is not… the king himself in a statement to his people said he was a little off put by the whole situation..
    And why is it if they are just following customs that he bowed (dont get it twisted that was no bend) but Michelle coudnt courtsy when she met the queen as common practice dictates in England?

    just some thoughts happy Good Friday

  • NO SIRR

    so i see the spin **
    sorry everybody more than a few typos im sure trying to hurry up and get outta here

  • eveinthegarden

    LETS NOT TALK ABOUT ALL THE PICTURES OF BUSH HOLDING HANDS WITH THE KING OF SAUDI ARABIA AND KISSING HIM AND ISH.

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2073/2496409613_08d918d1f8.jpg

    http://images.chron.com/blogs/txpotomac/Bush%20kisses%20the%20King.jpg

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    Yes, she is now call me a lie crackers, worshippers since she can do no wrong.

  • http://Bossip.com MzKat0517

    See thats the problem america has. They think we are better than others and can not and are not supposed to respect others that think they are just as important as we. We all want to be respected and I beleive that if you sho respect ppl are more suspectible to open up and even listen to you. America is a great country but we have robbed and stole enough and if it takes Obama to be the one to finally try or make an attempt to treat these ppl with some form of didnity than more power to him. He has always talked about CHANGE so he knows what he is doing. His mother and grandmother taught him well. Forget about what the conservs have to say, thats why we are i the mess we are in today. It aint like Obama gave the ppl the keys to the city. Let the man do his job.
    I love Michelle and Obama.

  • Darealwifey

    I don’t know how I feel about the “bow,” but I will say this…There is no excuse for the President and First Lady to not know the protocol for dealing with foreign dignataries and cultures. Some heads need to roll in the White House because his staffers are not doing their jobs.

    I know that black culture is very relaxed and informal, but this man is now the President of the United States, and there is a certain protocol that goes with that position and title.

    I think the media is over-doing the story, and reading too much into it, but I do hope the Obama’s learn from their flubs overseas, and demand that their staff help them better prepare in the future.

  • Darealwifey

    P.S. — For those saying he was just showing “respect” to them, the Saudi’s themselves came out with a blistering criticism of the bow saying it is against their religion for man to “bow” to another man because it is like idol worship which is against their religion. They say one should only bow to God.

  • so-phisticated

    bowing to Islam? or bowing to one of the US’s biggest allies?

    EVEN if he was bowing to Islam, what’s the problem with respecting other cultures and religions? people need to get over themselves and get educated..

  • LINK

    RESPECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THATS ALL

  • Angel

    it’s illigal for a US president to BOW before a ruler of a foriegn nation the neo-cons can have him impeached for it

  • Lisa

    Not only the white conservatives but also black conservatives like blogger Sandra Rose keep on hating on Obama all day everyday.

  • Shay

    If they had to bow to the fake Queen of England then why wouldn’t he bow to the real King of Saudi Arabia? White folks kill me. Arabs by their accounts are white when it comes to claiming their past history but when it comes to discussing terrorism you don’t ever hear them being considered white.

  • Darth H8ter

    Democrats gave McCain more grief for hugging (or getting hugged) by Bush.

  • bhudda

    you guys gotta get real. if you understood world culture, you would understand that america doesn’t bow down to ANYONE.

    i just think its a case of obama being a young, inexperienced, politician. he’s gonna make some mistakes. AND THIS WAS ONE OF EM.

  • Macho-in-paris-france

    Embarrassing servitude gesture. I live in France, everybody is laughing about black servitude culture. Let be real, Obama is embarrassing in that position. Saudi arabia king? you bow to saudi arabia king? a dictator and talibans sponsor?

  • Macho-in-paris-france

    People,I love Obama myself, but this “bow” is more than respect. It seems to be a servitude gesture. Why did not he make the same gesture as he mad to the Queen? Why is he most respectfull to saudi arabia king than the Queen? Mainstream here in paris says that that gesture is from a muslim to the king of muslims(vigil of mecca). Another reason: USA wants saudi money to fill budget (debt hole), so Obama is trying to kiss saudi arabia a*s to get these dollars. Sady, and God bless America. I am frustrated.

  • bhudda

    u hit it on the head macho.

    also, we need to kiss their asses or they’ll spill the beans on how we funded the taliban (w/them) and how the CIA is al-quaeda.

    obama is FAR from stupid.

    he knew what he was doing.

  • bhudda

    but cha’ll aint ready for the truth… SHEEP.

  • http://BOSSIP.COM SYKLOPS 562

    IM PISSED BECAUSE THEY COMPARED AMERICA TO ISLAM!! islam is a relegion not a country. not to mention he should bow to a king. when his term in office is up and he goes back to work in state government abdullah will still be king. royalty is for life. presedent is a job. sorry. its just showing respect!

  • Angee

    It’s always going to be something!!

  • too damn bad…

    SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND & CLUELESS. IT WASN’T SERVITUDE IN THE LEAST. WHAT ARE YOU LAUGHING ABOUT FRENCHIE HE DIDN’T BOW TO THE POMPOUS FRENCH, HE DIDN’T BOW TO THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND,HE DIDN’T BOW TO ANYONE IN EUROPE. HE AIN’T KISSING NOBODY’S ASS. WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS. LMAO

  • Black conservative

    I’ve recently started following this blog and this is the first time I’ve felt compelled to express my opinion. It’s unfortunate that you all believe that this Saudi Arabia king deserves the respect of the US. Perhaps, a history lesson is in order … the United States President should not bow to any monarchy – Queen Elizabeth included. The US President meets these other Heads of State on equal footing. They are EQUALS. Call it what you will, blame “white folk” but the truth of the matter is – President Obama’s administration is lying about the fact that it was a bow at all. So while ya’ll are here blaming white folk for “blowing this out of proportion” your (Democrat) President is pulling out all stops (i.e., damage control) and claiming that it was not a bow.

    Oh, and Obama’s half white. I know ya’ll like to forget that part. Laughable.

  • Black conservative

    “SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND & CLUELESS.”

    Classic! Pot meet kettle.

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    I love my country, I really do. But we are about some arrogant arses for sure. Whether he bowed or not, what difference does it make? I understand all of the “protocol” issues, but how far has protocol gotten us lately?? Answer…NOWHERE — but closer to a Depression than we’ve been in years. Things change, policies change, America is CHANGING. No longer can we be respected around the world, if we’re not willing to show respect to others? WE ARE NOT IN THIS WORLD ALONE!

    First they tried to dig at the 1st Lady for “hugging” the Queen; when it was clear that the Queen made the first gesture by placing her arm around the 1st Lady’s waist. Now, the President is acting like a servant by bowing to the King? I wonder what these same neo-conservative “Christians” will do when the REAL KING returns? (For those of us who happen to believe in Christianity.) Will they refuse to bow to a Jewish King?? GET OVER YOURSELVES AND GET REAL!!

    As always, may God Bless America!

  • Black conservative

    “No longer can we be respected around the world, if we’re not willing to show respect to others? WE ARE NOT IN THIS WORLD ALONE!”

    I just have to ask this question and I am looking for an honest answer. How does being someone’s doormat get you more respect? I’m just following your logic here.

    “Now, the President is acting like a servant by bowing to the King? I wonder what these same neo-conservative “Christians” will do when the REAL KING returns? (For those of us who happen to believe in Christianity.) Will they refuse to bow to a Jewish King?? GET OVER YOURSELVES AND GET REAL!!”

    You did not just compare Jesus with a man? I don’t care if he is the President, he too will bow before God.

  • About it

    How about when Bush actually was holding the Saudi King’s hand like a little child and flew the entire Bin Laden family out of the US after 9/11 when all flights were cancelled.
    These folks better get over it. The Saudi’s buy our debt, keep oil prices low, accept payment in dollars. These conservatives better learn American no longer rules.
    And he did nod to the Queen and her husband. And the Queen touched Michelle first.
    NEXT

  • Black conservative

    “How about when Bush actually was holding the Saudi King’s hand like a little child”

    Is it in the protocol that he not do so?

    “and flew the entire Bin Laden family out of the US after 9/11 when all flights were cancelled.”

    So you are agreeing that Obama is actually doing the same thing as Bush. Change you can believe in … NOT!

    “These folks better get over it. The Saudi’s buy our debt, keep oil prices low, accept payment in dollars.”

    WOW! The Saudis wouldn’t have jack if it weren’t for Americans. They were sitting on all that oil and didn’t know what to do with it. AMERICANS made them who they are. Period. We have our own oil but do we tap into it? No. Instead we rather grovel to supporters of terrorism.

    “These conservatives better learn American no longer rules.”

    I don’t think you understand what that means. Why are you so afraid of America being a superpower. You enjoy all of the freedoms it provides but have very little respect for it. That’s sad.

  • BAHAMAS/CHICAGO/CAYMAN GIRL

    Not every Muslim or Islamic country has ties to Al Queda. The President is meeting the King of another country and showing respect, so what? This is the only thing the conservatives have to hit the President with then so be it! But I tell you what, its the arrogance of some Americans that has the rest of the world looking at American like nuvo riche trash, why the President is trying so hard to open talks with the rest of the world! Yes the US is a “super power” but you so not exist in the world alone!

  • Black conservative

    “DONT TRY AND TEAR HIM DOWN BECAUSE YOU NOW SEE A BLACK MAN IS ACCOMPLISHING ALOT THRU OUT THE WORLD WHICH NO OTHER PRESIDENT HAS EVER DONE IN SUCH A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME!!! I GUESS THEY FINALLY SEE THAT “BLACK PEOPLE CAN RUN THINGS AND WIN AT IT!!!!”

    Name one thing he accomplished “in such a short period of time?” If memory serves me correctly he still hasn’t addressed the Somali pirates thing.

    None so blind as those who wish not to see.

  • Black conservative

    “Not every Muslim or Islamic country has ties to Al Queda.”

    True. But a quick google search of Saudi Arabia and supporting terrorism will show that this country does have ties to funding terrorism.

    “The President is meeting the King of another country and showing respect, so what?”

    What respect did the King return? Did he bow back? And why is Obama denying that it was a bow?

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  • http://google Jimmy

    At us crackers know what protocol is and would never bow to a foreign king.You better hope shoes is all al queda throws at his weak ass.The US is in big trouble with his weak ass.Whats next will he kiss the Somali pirates.Thank God his term is only 4 long years.

  • About it

    Black conservative:
    Yes, I am saying that Obama is doing what Bush did. Glad you picked up on that.
    _______________________________________
    WOW! The Saudis wouldn’t have jack if it weren’t for Americans. They were sitting on all that oil and didn’t know what to do with it. AMERICANS made them who they are. Period. We have our own oil but do we tap into it? No. Instead we rather grovel to supporters of terrorism.

    So you are saying that Bush did exactly what Obama is doing? The Saudis and the Israelis dictate to us, don’t get it twisted. The Saudis told us to leave after the First Gulf War and we did.

    And with the Chinese making rumblings about a new reserve world currency, no we don’t rule anymore because our Fed Reserve and our Treasury and our Congress trashed our biggest selling point — THE DOLLAR.
    Get over it and stop carrying water for the Republicans.

  • Black conservative

    About It,

    Try and focus. We are talking about the Saudis and Obama. Why do you find it surprising that I would disagree with Bush? I didn’t agree with everything he did. But that’s the difference between you and me … Obama can do no wrong in your eyes.

    “Get over it and stop carrying water for the Republicans.”

    Get over what? Obama’s administration said it wasn’t a bow but here you are arguing that he can do whatever he wants to do. Why does he feel the need to deny it then? Talk about carrying water.

  • http://Bossip Danny

    An “American” President, bows to no country, especially not the country that produced the individuals that sent Airplanes into our towers. How soon we forget… Don’t be surprised when it ‘happens again’and it will. I’m done say what you want but if you don’t see this as wrong, then you obviously no nothing about our countries history

  • http://Bossip Danny

    Oh…. and if they will lie to you about something as simple and petty as a “bow”, then how could you trust them on anything, the hell with a Democrat and Republican, time to get some “we the people” in the government don’t you think!

  • Black conservative

    Agreed, Danny.

  • Kali’s Finest

    Damn, the media be searching thru Obama’s bowel movements!!! hahaha

  • Southern Queen Dee

    So, it’s wrong that Obama “bowed” to him, but when Bush allowed this very same king to put a chain on his neck that had “Allah” written on it in Arabic, none of these conservative, Bush ass-kissers had a damn thing to say? :roll:

  • About it

    *gaffes* instead of gifts

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    Thanks for the eye opener @ Southern Queen Dee. Never heard of that one, and apparently “Black Conservative” (aka, Armstrong Williams), can say nothing in defense! LOL!!!

  • About it

    *Petrodollar* not Euro dollar
    Late y’all I’m out

  • dubya

    The “Bush did it” line is old. Please retire it. Bush also f’d this country up..is this the standard we are going to hold Obama to–Well Bush F’d up so it’s okay that Obama does?

    Please, if it is not such a big deal, as most of you suggest, why is Obama denying it? Not one person has answered this simple question, only deflections and excuses.

  • too damn bad…

    Black conservative you’re right it is classic…I’m happy that you’ve made the acquaintance, good for you.

  • dubya

    side note: why do we keep hiring lawyers to lead our country? There is NOTHING in the law school curriculum that prepares you to handle an economic crisis or a disaster (natural or man made).

    I can understand a city planner, a MBA, an economist,an accountant, an investment bankser, a sociologist, hell, even a scientist but a lawyer…hells no. We need to refine the educational requirements of the President.

  • http://www.andersonservices.com George Anderson

    George Bush kissed the same guy.

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    @ BLACK CONSERVATIVE

    “No longer can we be respected around the world, if we’re not willing to show respect to others? WE ARE NOT IN THIS WORLD ALONE!”

    I just have to ask this question and I am looking for an honest answer. How does being someone’s doormat get you more respect? I’m just following your logic here.
    *************************************************
    Logically speaking… if you want to imposter a FAUX (FOX) news commentator, and mix apples with oranges, I’m up for the game. First of all, how is the President being a “doormat” by showing RESPECT? If it is not “within protocol”, I can understand his “gaffe” being addressed. But to define this as “servitude” is extreme, desperate, and to say the least…absurd!

    “Now, the President is acting like a servant by bowing to the King? I wonder what these same neo-conservative “Christians” will do when the REAL KING returns? (For those of us who happen to believe in Christianity.) Will they refuse to bow to a Jewish King?? GET OVER YOURSELVES AND GET REAL!!”

    You did not just compare Jesus with a man? I don’t care if he is the President, he too will bow before God.

    ***************************************************
    Correct! I DID NOT compare Jesus with a man! I compared a situation. The question was posed, not to suggest that Jesus is an ordinary man; nor was it raised to associate Obama as a God or Christ- like. He is a HUMAN BEING, whether he be President or the “Average Joe” (pardon the pun, but I’m sure your bells jingled a little when I used that name — LOL). I made that statement to challenge neo-conversatives such as yourself to depart from your arrogant ways. So let me pose the question again, and wait for your (hopefully) HONEST response. When the REAL KING (Jesus) returns, will neo-conservative Republicans hold onto their arrogance and not bow to THE KING because he is a JEWISH?? Let me reiterate, that I am NOT comparing the Saudi King to Jesus! I am asking to check the level to which you actually believe in the neo-conservative way of thinking! So, STOP TRYING TO PICK A FIGHT WITH ME!

    I respectfully disagree with your way of thinking, and hopefully, you can RESPECTFULLY disagree with mine.

  • Candid Canuck

    well… the arabs own 20% of the USA anyways so at least he shows respect to ONE of the hands that feed him….

  • Woudat X

    Cmon Obama, act like you’ve been there before….SMDH

    Geez!

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    Dubya… I like the way you voice your opinion. Very respectful, although I disagree.

    If were are to refine the educational qualifications of the President, don’t you think we should have started 9 years ago… when your “namesake” was on the campaign trail? How on God’s good green earth was he qualified??? Let’s be honest here. LOL!!!

  • Black conservative

    Thanks, too damn bad!

    Pleasure to make your acquaintance as well.

  • DREW

    FACK England And FACK king ab-Doo-Doo

    Time to lynch that Obomber!

    WTF USA #!

    Y’all need to start nuking again.

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    @ Blk Con… glad to see you’re still up like me! LOL!

    Before you start giving advice on “keeping up”, make sure you do the same. My remarks were not suggesting that you were to defend “republicans as a whole. I was asking you to defend the actions of your fauxro (fake hero) G.W.Bush. At least the actions “justsaying” accused him of as mentioned in his/her remarks.

    “Do TRY to keep up!” LOL!!

    Peace!

  • dubya

    Phenomenally Dee…

    Dubya… I like the way you voice your opinion. Very respectful, although I disagree.

    If were are to refine the educational qualifications of the President, don’t you think we should have started 9 years ago… when your “namesake” was on the campaign trail? How on God’s good green earth was he qualified??? Let’s be honest here. LOL!!!
    ————————————————–
    Respectfully, you have made too many assumptions about who I am and what I believe. So, basically, you’ve created this version of me that you can argue with, unfortunately, it does not represent what I was trying to say. Your two fatal assumptions:

    1.My last name starts with a W, dubya has been my nickname since I was little, I’m still called that today, so, my moniker has nothing to do with supporting Bush.

    2. Your assume that I assume that Bush was a great leader and had the necessary qualifications to run a country. Never did I say that. Once you take this assumption out, you will see that we do agree.

    Second, you never offer up why you disagree? All I got from you was a bunch of bush this and bush that. What is it about training as a lawyer that uniquely prepares you to run a country? Why can’t a civil engineer do it? Why can’t an economist do it? Why a lawyer?

    Thank you for your kind words and thank you for being respectful as well.

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    Wow Drew!! Time to lynch?? Why the venom? As a suggestion, you might want to be more careful when slewing out threats against the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES on the www or any other public venue. Not a smart move; needless to say extremely mean and hateful. No matter how poor a job President Bush need, no sane individual would have ever wished him bodily harm or death.

    I will pray that you (and folks like you) will be released from your hateful ways.

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    CORRECTION!! *DID not “need”

  • Black conservative

    “@ Blk Con… glad to see you’re still up like me! LOL!”

    On Fridays I get to stay up late! Yay!

    “Before you start giving advice on “keeping up”, make sure you do the same. My remarks were not suggesting that you were to defend “republicans as a whole.”

    I’ll try my best. It’s late … so we’ll see how it goes.

    “I was asking you to defend the actions of your fauxro (fake hero) G.W.Bush.”

    AHAHAHA. Why is that because he’s a Republican and I’m a conservative we have to see eye-to-eye? I’ve said far too many times to count now that I didn’t agree with everything the man did. Why do you keep glossing over that. What actions do I need to defend? Everything he did with the Saudis I disagreed with which I stated in an earlier post. If we drill our own oil what need would we have for the Saudis?

    “At least the actions “justsaying” accused him of as mentioned in his/her remarks.”

    What about them? Contrary to the ideas you’ve conjured up … I don’t agree with that. Capice? My patience is wearing thin.

  • Black conservative

    “Wow Drew!! Time to lynch?? Why the venom? As a suggestion, you might want to be more careful when slewing out threats against the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES on the www or any other public venue. Not a smart move; needless to say extremely mean and hateful.”

    I concur but I don’t think this person was expecting to be taken seriously.

    “No matter how poor a job President Bush need, no sane individual would have ever wished him bodily harm or death.”

    Do you live in a vacuum? Google assassination chic and Bush and see what you come up with.

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    Phenomenally Dee…

    Dubya… I like the way you voice your opinion. Very respectful, although I disagree.

    If were are to refine the educational qualifications of the President, don’t you think we should have started 9 years ago… when your “namesake” was on the campaign trail? How on God’s good green earth was he qualified??? Let’s be honest here. LOL!!!
    ————————————————–
    Respectfully, you have made too many assumptions about who I am and what I believe. So, basically, you’ve created this version of me that you can argue with, unfortunately, it does not represent what I was trying to say. Your two fatal assumptions:

    1.My last name starts with a W, dubya has been my nickname since I was little, I’m still called that today, so, my moniker has nothing to do with supporting Bush.

    2. Your assume that I assume that Bush was a great leader and had the necessary qualifications to run a country. Never did I say that. Once you take this assumption out, you will see that we do agree.

    Second, you never offer up why you disagree? All I got from you was a bunch of bush this and bush that. What is it about training as a lawyer that uniquely prepares you to run a country? Why can’t a civil engineer do it? Why can’t an economist do it? Why a lawyer?

    Thank you for your kind words and thank you for being respectful as well.

    *************************************************

    @ Dubya

    My reference to “namesake” was a total play on words. Since former President Bush was often referred to as “dubya”, I took that angle (jokingly).

    I never once mentioned “Bush this or Bush that” in my comments. I only asked that the educational qualifications factor should have been questioned before and during his run for President. Tis all… I NEVER gathered from your comments that you profess him to be a “great President”. I don’t believe I accused you of stating that.

    Further, I never said I disagreed with your question. As a matter of fact, I tend to agree. I don’t think there is anything written that would disqualify a scientist, engineer, accountant, economist, etc., etc., etc., from becoming the President of these United States. However, I would offer that being elected President of the Harvard Law Review, and graduating top in your class from such a prestigious institution would give you a leg up on the competition, should one aspire to become President! (It’s apparent that it helps, based on the outcome of our last election.) :-)

    I was not assuming anything, only posing a question. I did not presume to know your political beliefs, nor your political association, based on your “name” and comments.

    Sorry if I gave that impression…

  • Black conservative

    “What Americans have to understand is it does not matter if Obama actually bowed or not. WHat DOES MATTER is that the entire Muslim world saw it and is convinced he did.

    What that means to them is an American President, an infidel, showed subservance to a Muslin King. It shows the infidels are weak, their moral position is correct and Islam is ascendent. The Wahabie (sp?) imams will show that over and over and over again in the mosques to their youg students.

    They will also play back Obama’s words over and over and over.

    Barack Obama will be better recruiter for the terrorists by a factor of 1,000 than Abu Graib ever was.

    Whether this was inadvertant or not he screwed up BIG TIME!”

    Nuff said.

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    Hopefully “Blk Con” is still up to respond to this question… Are you and Drew one in the same?

    I’d much rather spend my time praying for OUR President’s safety, and the safety of his family, than to spend time googling assassination themed websites. I believe in a much higher power than INsane folks who would wish ANY President bodily harm or death.

    Remember… the key words I used were… any SANE individual… folks who would wish death on any one (based on political beliefs), is NOT very sane at all!

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    *ARE not very sane at all, not IS* WARNING!! It’s getting late, and the typos will increase…

  • dubya

    Phenomenally Dee…
    ————————————-
    thanks for the clarification! I’m off to bed!!!

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    Goodnite Dubya! Sweet dreams…:)

  • dubya

    Further, I never said I disagreed with your question. As a matter of fact, I tend to agree. I don’t think there is anything written that would disqualify a scientist, engineer, accountant, economist, etc., etc., etc., from becoming the President of these United States. However, I would offer that being elected President of the Harvard Law Review, and graduating top in your class from such a prestigious institution would give you a leg up on the competition, should one aspire to become President! (It’s apparent that it helps, based on the outcome of our last election.) :-)
    ————————————————–
    Yeah, president of harvard law review with not a SINGLE scholarly publication (which is UNHEARD of) nor judge clerkship (which, again, being from harvard law is UNHEARD of) nor law firm recruitment. Seems to me like Obama cut out when the going got tough. Kind of like what he is doing now. I’m sorry, not impressive to me and still does not equate a GREAT president!

  • Black conservative

    “Hopefully “Blk Con” is still up to respond to this question… Are you and Drew one in the same?”

    Good grief, woman. What is your problem? Why are you putting my screen name in quotes. No, drew and I aren’t the same. Having a difficult believing that a black person could be a conservative. Way to be open-minded.

    “I’d much rather spend my time praying for OUR President’s safety, and the safety of his family, than to spend time googling assassination themed websites.” Just making a point.

    “I believe in a much higher power than INsane folks who would wish ANY President bodily harm or death.”

    You see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear. Frankly, conversing with you is giving me a headache. I said that I agree that anyone advocating the death of president is wrong. But you start in with some conspiracy that I would have the time and inclination to pretend to be two posters. I find that highly offensive and childish. It may be time to admit that you don’t have any real rebuttals to my posts.

    “Remember… the key words I used were… any SANE individual… folks who would wish death on any one (based on political beliefs), is NOT very sane at all!”

    I got it but what does any of that have to do with me. I see you kindly skipped over several of my posts and the million dollar question which is: why did the President not own up to his deep bow? A sure sign that you don’t have any answers. I’m done for the night. ‘Til next time.

  • Black conservative

    would NOT have the time…

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    If you are getting a headache why continue dialogue? And furthermore, why are you responding to conversations I’m having with OTHER posters. Case in point…the conversation I had with “Drew”. Hence the reason why I questioned your identity. Why would you feel the need to defend another poster? Things that make you go “hmmmmm…”.

    Anyway, your suggestion about googling the assassination themed website, led me to the comments regarding “sane and INsane individuals”. I have NO desire to delve into that area. As Istated before, I’ll keep praying to my Higher power, and not waste time on polluting my mind with that mess! Keeping it positive!

    Last but not least, you never posed the question to me about President Obama’s defense of his “bow”. For me to answer for him would be foolish. I’m not him, and unfortunately, I have no ties to his “inner circle”, so I cannot answer for him. However, IF as you stated, it is AGAINST protocol, he should own up to the mistake and keep it moving. There are much larger fish to fry… namely the economy, health care, education… the list goes on and on…

    Now take a chill pill, and discontinue to respond if I am the cause of your headache, for I wish you the best of health; no matter how much you wish to engage in petty arguments. It’s all LOVE; but if you want to continue to raise your ire against me, have at it. LOL!!

    Good night!

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    dubya…

    Yeah, president of harvard law review with not a SINGLE scholarly publication (which is UNHEARD of) nor judge clerkship (which, again, being from harvard law is UNHEARD of) nor law firm recruitment. Seems to me like Obama cut out when the going got tough. Kind of like what he is doing now. I’m sorry, not impressive to me and still does not equate a GREAT president!

    **************************************************
    So graduating top in your class at an Ivy League institution means nothing? Why do you think he was elected President of the “review”, and President of the United States? (That’s an honest question to which I’d love to read your response.)

    For the record, I believe he went to work for the same law firm First Lady Michelle Obama worked for once he moved to Illinois. Not only did he work there, she was assigned his mentor; where the “personal relationship” ensued.

    How did he “cut out when the going got tough”, if he elected to work for social justice in the city, instead of being a “suit”? Would you not consider that a person of compassion (albeit mixed with some political ambitions)? Was he wrong to do so?

    I have not said he is a “Great President”. It is far too early in the game for that; and I am far from delusional. However, I think he has the potential to leave a legacy of greatness when his term(s) are over. (Yes, I’m speaking it into existence. Faith without works is dead!) :) If folks would stop picking at every FLAW he makes, and aid him in focusing on the much needed works of this country I think we’d all be better off.

    However, I have been accused of being a “dreamer”. (Not delusional, just a dreamer…) :)

  • Devon

    I am a democrat liberal. but no American, especially not the president, should bow to any monarch. especially that monarch that has such laws against women.

  • Trini Bwoy

    He’s Bowing to support, and to cash flow, and for respect.
    Conservatives don’t rep me, they would’ve seen me my people lynched if they had their way.

    Islam is not the enemy, the enemy is the ignorant, and the uneducated.

    The Islamic community has it’s faults, but its not the ememy; remember the crusades, priest raping children. I know these are sick people, and they don’t represent true Christians.

    Stop the hate, get educated.

  • dubya

    sorry about all the typos, I’m running on fumes these days.
    I’m really off to bed!!

  • dubya

    Trini Bwoy

    He’s Bowing to support, and to cash flow, and for respect.
    Conservatives don’t rep me, they would’ve seen me my people lynched if they had their way.

    Islam is not the enemy, the enemy is the ignorant, and the uneducated.

    The Islamic community has it’s faults, but its not the ememy; remember the crusades, priest raping children. I know these are sick people, and they don’t represent true Christians.

    Stop the hate, get educated.
    ————————————————–
    I agree with most of your post with a couple of major exceptions:
    1. A history lesson will show you that it was actually the democratic party that was interested in lynching you. I know party lines have changed over time, but at the time lynchings occurred, conservatives were NOT at the helm.

    2. Islam is not the enemy. I agree, however, Muslims and American will never see eye to eye. Why? well, look at us, we glorify violence, sex, and ignorance for self gratification. Hey, at least a suicide bomber is doing it in the name of Allah. People here kill over a pair of Nikes. America has a strong history of offering up peace pipes but not getting down to the root of the problem. America does not have what it takes to get down to the root of the problem because that means, we’d have to stop excusing our behaviors and hold people accountable. That ain’t happening..ever. All obama is hoping for is a tacit agreement. “I won’t hurt you if you don’t hurt me” Thing is, Muslims want more than that, they are not ambiguous in what they want. They have an agenda and will carry it out.

  • chuck D

    That half craker shoulda hade more sense than to bow to some 3rd world pagan! SMH

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  • Black conservative

    “Why would you feel the need to defend another poster?” I was not defending him. I was agreeing with you but you can’t even see that.

    “Now take a chill pill, and discontinue to respond if I am the cause of your headache,”

    I was not being literal. I was just frustrated that every little thing needs to be explained to you. Case in point … I was agreeing with you not defending drew.”It’s all LOVE; but if you want to continue to raise your ire against me, have at it.” Get over yourself. You don’t have that kind of power.

  • ElCapitan

    The president may be black but America is still the ignorant cesspool of hate that it’s always been and always will be.
    I bet they think that he’s planning some terrorist attack with them……SMH

  • Jay

    Please Bush open mouthed kissed these guys–and I’m not joking

  • Jay

    …but he shouldn’t have bowed though

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    You’ve raised some very valid points Dubya. (GM, by the way!)

    I did not mean to imply that graduating from an Ivy League institution automatically makes you better than others… I was merely stating that OUR President should be credited for that, not discredited.

    And congratulations to you on your personal accomplishments! Maybe you’ll make a Great President one day, if you choose that career path! :)

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    And Good Morning to you too Blk Con!

    I never asked you to explain anything thing to me. that was your choice. And as far as me “not having that kind of power”… and will only resond with… if you say so!!! LOL!

    Now go out and make it a great day!

  • Phenomenally Dee…

    CORRECTION!!! “I will only respond with… if you say so!!!”

  • hateyou

    There all on the same 666 team anyways

  • Mel

    I am 100% on the Obama team, that being said, he needs to step up his protocol advisors. And we as a people need to stop just giving the Obama’s a pass just because we love them.

    While it is true that a lot of people need to fall back and not be so difficult about some of this stuff, It is also true that there is an expectation for our first family and the rules need to be followed.

    While most of this stuff is silly, who touched whom first, did he bow, did he not? For me, I say why give your haters even more to talk about.

    Some call it respect, some say hey, we are the US and the king is our presidents peer so you don’t bow down period. Protocol for the Queen was SHE is not to be touched… I know she touched OUR QUEEN first but hey Mrs. Obama does not have a no touch policy I’m sure if she had the Queen would not have touched her.

    We all know our president is cool, down and has major swagger. That is who he is but the reality is he is now our president and he is going to have to play the game just a little so that he does not appear to be too “common” and that is a hard dance to do.

    I feel as though he wants the American people to understand that he is our president and not stuck up like previous ones have been but he or his protocol staff need to have to figure it out.

  • Queeney

    @RE you better get um! This was halarious to me, considering the fact that there were so many news segements on appropriate etiquette for Kings and Queens while President Obama was over seas. I specifically remember hearing that President Obama and Madame Mitchelle would be just in bowing to royalty, particularly Queen Elizabeth. I suppose bowing to a frail, lil’ol’Caucasian woman would be most ideal, but God forbid bowing to someone of Islamic, or Muslim faith. This is insane. President Obama showed respect and humbleness. This is exactly why other countries don’t believe most Americans don’t appreciate or respect other cultures. This is most unfortuante. Think of it this way, if the people of Saudi Aribia felt disgruntled about President Obama not bowing, or showing proper etiquette would they be justified in burning the U.S. flag? Absolutely not, but again, it goes back to respect. President Obama is cultured and intelligent, he is fully capable of exercising sound judgement and I hardly believe that right wing conservatives or anyone else for that matter have a place to dictate to President Obama on how to show courtesy to dignitaries. Find ligitement criticisms and perhaps we can have an intellectual debate, until then….go back to the drawing board!

  • Rawr

    These conservatives clearly have nothing better to than to overanaylze a gesture of respect.

  • Queeney

    @tiger….and so do you…literally!

  • Wanjiru

    “practically”

    .

  • http://www.bossip.com MizCatwalk20

    I dont think it’s as worse as Bush walking around holding hands with the guy……….

  • Obama will be Obama.

    It doesn’t matter what Obama does. He is doing most of what he said he was going to do and he does it regardless of what these people think.

    They can’t stand that AND they can’t stand that they can’t rattle his cage one bit. Let them Cry and moan. Who cares? They are going to blame him for everything no matter what. If he declared he was a repub Tomorrow, they would suddenly praise the man.

    These people don’t care one bit about this country or the people in it, it is about one thing…power. They are trying to get back into power. Nothing more.

    They hide behind the name of Jesus, God, and Christianity to perform their own immorality, thievery, lies, and murder and claim it was for the greater good. And of course…more power.

    Let them keep doing what they do….they WILL pay for it in the end.

  • About it

    Didn’t you hear Kaddafi go crazy at Abdullah at the Arab League two weeks ago? He was screaming at him that he was working together with the enemy and that he lies about everything and tries to portray himself as a genuine Muslim and then they shut Kaddafi down and so Kaddafi walked away.
    ____________________
    Thanx Eva in Holland. I didn’t see this as we have propaganda for news these days.

    They hide behind the name of Jesus, God, and Christianity to perform their own immorality, thievery, lies, and murder and claim it was for the greater good. And of course…more power.
    ________________________________
    James Dobson just stepped down from Focus on the Family, and the Christian Right has just publicly admitted due to the election of Obama. They are actually blaiming the Bush administration and the politicalization of their cause by the Republicans in general. You are right. All they wanted was a seat at the great banquet of theivery, racism, hatred, colonialsim, greed, lust, etc. — as long as they could have the veil of religion.

  • chloe

    I don’t think obama should bow to anyone especially not the saudis. They still give money to terrorist to this day. some of you guys need to read the issues let it swirl around in your brain and then make a educated decision. what obama did was wrong point blank… let’s just admit it and get over it, because we have bigger issues at hand. But don’t call the “party” card saying conservatives is this and white people are that, because obama is still first and formost a politician who was just bowing to the saudis because they have the oil that we need to survive from day to day. Trust me all these politician including obama would sell america down the river for that black gold!!

  • Woudat X

    @ Black Conservative

    WIll u shut the FUCCUP already! Damn!

    Pick your mediums …geez nobody wants a history lesson on an entertainment blog….

    *all this damn scrolling to get to the bottom and ish*

    Get some manners! truncate your ish!

  • Black conservative

    “WIll u shut the FUCCUP already! Damn!”

    Maybe if you ask me nicely. *smile*

    “Pick your mediums …geez nobody wants a history lesson on an entertainment blog….”

    Look I wasn’t the one who brought politics into “an entertainment blog.” Check yourself.

    “*all this damn scrolling to get to the bottom and ish*”

    You poor baby.

    “Get some manners! truncate your ish!”

    I don’t think you listen to yourself before you speak. You cussed at me and in the same breath are telling me to mind my manners. Yowza. I’m laughing … really.

  • tamiko

    out of respect yeah right we are talking about the most powerful man of the free world do you know who he was bowing too you guys are all sheep.

  • http://Bossip Danny

    @Sha

    I noticed you blogged your opinion of my facts… can’t say I’m surprised by your comment. Maybe you need to research protocol, and American History then after that tell me what exactly did I say about “our country” because I don’t recall mentioning anything of that matter, but I did mention Saudi Arabia, oh and here is some Saudi Protocol: In Saudi Arabia people bow to the King as a show of submission, kind of like when a dog shows it’s underbelly to a bigger dog, think about it, and I will debate you on any topic any day of the week and enlighten you because you obviously need to walk out of the closet you’ve been living in.

  • Macho-in-paris-france

    [...How about when Bush actually was holding the Saudi King’s hand like a little child and flew the entire Bin Laden family out of the US after 9/11 when all flights were cancelled. The Saudi’s buy our debt, keep oil prices low, accept payment in dollars. These conservatives better learn American no longer rules. And he did nod to the Queen and her husband. And the Queen touched Michelle first...]

    GOOD, you made it clear. USA is going bankrupty if it doesnt got billions dollar from china and saudi arabia. Saudia arabia can finance djihaadists, talibans, al-quaeda(leader was saudi king family member) BUT usa will be nice with them(saudi king family) because without their dollar cash there is not budget in usa(too much debt, too much oil consumption). Pres. Obama knows all that, what can he do to keep usa away from bankrupty? Just “kiss saudi arabia king a*s”. Many people here are saying, why did not he do it in private area instead of public? Was he thinking there is no camera in that queen’s room? I am black, I love and support Obama, but that “bow” gesture is an servitude one. Look, in muslim culture, people like to bow to their kings. All Arab TV chanels are saying Obama has a natural muslim culture before being a christian practicer/converted, so he has that natural instinct to respect muslim authorities; that’s why he bowed too much to saudia king than the britain queen(and she has no billions!). Being USA president, that OBAMA’s servitude gesture in front of the most terrorists sponsor is an humiliation for the free world. You black people, get over yourself, we all support Obama but he needs to step up his game as if usa needs saudi money. America is showing its weakness; americans were living high profile life with bank debt(money from abroad). Help your country, stop with too much bank debt, live with your own money. Look, Obama is trying too hard to get “cozy” with muslim world, but he is doing it by playing “low level game”. Usa can respect muslim world without kissing their a*sses. All french presidents respect muslim world, as they are not afraid to tell the truth when Israel acts very bad for example; but french presidents stay a little arrogant a little swagger and never bow to monarchs, kings or whatever the f*ck they are. Dont “sell” your country for billions money. Obama, I love you, but the last thing I want to tell you is: Stop trying to back or push or support Turkey to be an european union member. Usa needs Turkey to solve palestin-Israel issue, Irak issue, Afghanistan issue, etc. but we dont need an advice from you to deal with muslim world. European people must vote(a referendum) to response if they agree with Turkey to enter European Union.

  • Macho-in-paris-france

    chloe wrote:
    I don’t think obama should bow to anyone especially not the saudis. They still give money to terrorist to this day. some of you guys need to read the issues let it swirl around in your brain and then make a educated decision. what obama did was wrong point blank… let’s just admit it and get over it, because we have bigger issues at hand. But don’t call the “party” card saying conservatives is this and white people are that, because obama is still first and formost a politician who was just bowing to the saudis because they have the oil that we need to survive from day to day. Trust me all these politician including obama would sell america down the river for that black gold!!

    YOU SEEM TO BE THE MOST REALISTIC. Black people dont play party card or race card. I am black, I support Obama but the most leader of the free world can not bow to saudi king for money and oil reasons. Ok, usa needs saudi money to buy its debt but dont bow in public to kiss their a*sses. The funny thing saudis still finance terrorists group fighting us soldiers. The world is goind mad right now.

  • http://Bossip Danny

    Holding hands are terms of endearment in the Middle East, have you ever been there? In the USA it may be gay to hold hands with another man, but in the Mid East it is very acceptable. In Japan to individuals man or women BOTH bow as greeting and departure recognition it’s like us in the USA saying “hello” and “goodbye”. Bowing to the Saudi King and “putting your forehead to his waiting hand is submissive”. No Obama did not “kiss the ring” there is no such protocol so whoever said that is wrong, but Obama better: 1. Get rid of his Press Secretary because he’s a babbling buffoon and 2. Get rid of his Protocol department because this is there 4th error in his short Presidency so far. And yes Bush was a Dumbass for the Angela Mirkell massage but the media was all over that!

    Oh for all you women: In the Middle East the women MUST walk behind the man as a show of submission, do you want President Obama to do that to Michelle too when around Middle Eastern dignitaries, funny how the opinions will change then.

  • always knew

    Don’t me wrong, I don’t like everything he does, BUT I still have his back….

  • Macho

    chloe wrote:
    I don’t think obama should bow to anyone especially not the saudis. They still give money to terrorist to this day. some of you guys need to read the issues let it swirl around in your brain and then make a educated decision. what obama did was wrong point blank… let’s just admit it and get over it, because we have bigger issues at hand. But don’t call the “party” card saying conservatives is this and white people are that, because obama is still first and formost a politician who was just bowing to the saudis because they have the oil that we need to survive from day to day. Trust me all these politician including obama would sell america down the river for that black gold!!

    YOU SEEM TO BE THE MOST REALISTIC. Black people dont play party card or race card. I am black, I support Obama but the most leader of the free world can not bow to saudi king for money and oil reasons. Ok, usa needs saudi money to buy its debt but dont bow in public to kiss their a*sses. The funny thing saudis still finance terrorists group fighting us soldiers. The world is goind mad…China is ready to buy US treasury because there is no US budget without China and Saudi cash”

  • Woudat X

    @ Macho in Paris blah blah, Black Conserv. et al

    u ppl r obviusly very insightful and prolly won a few rounds on the debate team….

    but PLEEZ TRUNCATE YOUR ISH! Ease up on the essay and try in two sentences or less to write your steez.

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