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wow i did it lol

He may be getting a bit ahead of himself here. The man above is off limits Jay… Don’t cut your blessings buddy.

he doesn’t have to explain anything…he’s speaking the truth. Jesus, the bible, church…it’s all there to control weak minded people who need someone or something to defer life’s responsibilities to.

He ain’t lied. where was jesus doing katrina?

jesus can’t save you, only you can save you

If you don’t understand the meaning of that, you’re an idiot and need to read more.

Love the song, meh to the lyric. In my mind I humn “only Jesus can save you, life starts with churching”. Do you.

He gonna find out just how real Jesus is before it’s all said and done…no need to argue with a fool or try and understand what they mean.

does not sound like that at all. what are you, RETAHDED !!!

I am waiting to meet jesus, cuz i’ll put power in my hands and slap the hell out of him like they do in those hollering churches, and ask him where the hell he been?

if he were my employee i would have fired him by now

AM i the only one who thinks JAY is super BOMB…. ?

What is Beyonce gon say to him since she cant say a sentence without mentioning how great God/Jesus has been to her.

Its obvious that Jay got more money than sense.

He is reading a whole bunch “spiritual” books right now (per his interview with Oprah) and not getting into his Bible. No wonder Oprah had him on her show because she thinks the same way. God is not to be mocked and I’d hate to see how He shows them His power.

If anyone wud listen to the ENTIRE verse, they wud understand the context of that line, read people, read.

Jesus is a spiritual version of a hustla!!!!!

why do some christians think every black person is suppose to be a christian? it’s not that hard to figure out what he’s saying. you have to help yourself before you can get help.

who cares again?

yea he needs to explain himself—or else…i will no longer be a jay-z fan..

@RED,

the only person blessing Jay is Jay. why are black folks always trying to give other people’s hard work and effort to jesus?

@always and forever,

what makes you don’t i have hatred in my heart for saying jesus don’t save shyt? what about all the other people who don’t beleive the jesus mythology? i guess they too have hatre in their hearts?

JAY NOT LYING AND EVERYBODY ELSE NEEDS TO STOP!

@ Kay…what??????!!!

@Always and forever,

I don’t have hate in my heart, I have logic in my head. I don’t believe in the god that is described in the bible, the koran, the tora…any of it. I don’t mean to offend you or disregard your beliefs, I just don’t share your beliefs, that’s all.

He knows what he meant and if it was anything to mock the Father’s Son he shall reap what he sow….PERIOD!

JESUS is the truth,the life and the way. HE is coming back to this world to judge and save us who love HIM. Jay-Z doesn’t know better. JESUS died for all our sins, but you must confess Him and believe before you wind up in HELL!!!

Jesus?

Negros need to stop praying to a white man.

Christianity, and Catholic religion.

THOSE r WHITE MAN RELIGIONS. I cant accept or believe what most of them think.

I believe in God. I go to church when my girl forces me, but i don’t believe in all the Mumbo Jumbo.

When I was a child I thought that Santa put gifts unde the ChristmasTree….

Well I have seen God work in my life many times so his words don’t over trump my own personal experiences… Shoot my other just got out of a successful surgery yesterday removing cancer from her body and I give the glory to God… I am really going to stop listen to please with this satanic message because it does not fit my life style… No one or there words can turn me against God and the church is just a place where hurt people can get help because the world benefits some much more from hurting and messed up people…

let’s be real why should he give thanks to jesus forhelpinghim make the devil’s music?

ya’ll can let the white man make all the fake rules he wants so he can get over on society but at the end ofthe day all secular music is made in the light of the dark Prince. Period.

As my name moniker says.. here in america the folks you make Gods are the ones with money. You’re America showcases a bunch of idots to the world as it’s best!!! Is all about the devil.

I see why other nation talk so bad about the west.

Then you have A Keys acting like she was not a homewrecker and making fake blogs to save her image. Like she and swizz are not in the wrong. Ya’ll care more about money than values period. So anyone who says anything that makes sense is deemd as hating. Well yep I am hating against the devil.
That devils side of her has changed her as well.

Yep.. show me one not of the DEVIL!!!!

stop putting your trust in religion…if as black people we decided to put all the money an time into our children we do into our churches the black community would run the united states…real talk.religion is a crutch like drugs are for the weak minded

Oh my…. blasphemy.

It could simply mean that.. when we are in church our mind is so foucused on the word.. we are living in the word.. believing it. andeven though we put so much emphasis in church and the Lord saving us.. when we walk out those church does… life starts back again. We still face those same issues that we faced before we walked into church.

Idk how more obvious he can get. HELLLLOOO PEOPLE… the man told you how he feels about God when he started calling himself hova, which by the way is blaspheme (an unforgivable sin). Wake up, stop idolizing and start realizing. Realize that these people have no regard for Jesus and are blatantly speaking against the church. Anyone who believes otherwise are deceiving themselves.

Like Barack Obama’s preacher of 20 years Rev. Jeremiah Wright said.

“Jesus was a poor BLACK man living in a country and a culture that was CONTROLLED by and run by rich, white people. The Romans were white and they ran EVERYTHING in Jesus’s land.”

Jay-Z once again attempting to be deep…
And failing miserably.

He likes drama….he mentions Jesus twice in this song and both times it’s in a negative context….”Jesus pays Lebron”….Really Shawn???? I know good lyrics are hard to come by these days but I DON’T think now is the time to be throwing Jesus in your music just to get people talking bout it…..SMH

The end times are here people tryna confuse christians that theres no jesus.. things like katrina will happen again those are predicted in the bible all that money he has wont save him at the end i jus feel sorry for him because he obviously worships money and he thinks hes some god you need God camel……

cosign @Always and Forever

yes he is a blasphamist. I am starting to think athiest. And my pastor recited one of his quotes this past Sunday at church “the only rapper to rewrite history without a pen”. I cannot remember the context in which it was used, but I was like Pastor need to stop reciting rappers and stick to the bible. I tell you these modern day trying to be hip Pastors need to stop. I didnt even buy Jay-Z new album since he calls himself the God and talks reckless.

Jay sing about what you know, from the sounds of it you dont know God. If you did you would not involve him you crazy mixed up world. You will bow down Jay . God is the one who gives you the breath of life every day, God is the one that alows you the use of your hand and feet and lets not forget those oversized lips, God is the that allowed you to get where you are. You know you head is getting too big, just like Lucifer God 1 time #1 Angel. His head got to big, he forgot who made all possible. So God fixed him He took it all away and cast him out of the Heavens. Jay you to can be cast out you can loose it all. Talk about any and every but please do not involve Our Lord and Savior Jesus in your antics.

WhySoAngryOverSomebodyElsesMan,

you right…J don’t owe anyone a damn explaination.

organized religion, especially christianity was the worst thing that could ever happened to black folks.

europeans new exactly what they were doing when they became to maniPOLUTE the God concept of the afrikans. they knew we were a spiritual people, so naturally they could use religion to make us docile, and powerless, always waiting on some outside force external of us to save us.

*throwing holy water on everyone in this thread*

Come on ppl this whole “there isn’t any god” argument is ridiculous and very sad. I can’t imagaine going through life not believing there is a god. SMDH

There is no such thing as the entity “JESUS”.

I dnt kno y some people just dnt understand you will NEVER be greater than GOD, how many times is He going to have to prove himself to peolpe? Jay Z i truly feel sorry for you and anybody else who thinks they will not have to answer for everything they have said and done to GOD himself. All i can say is have fun while it lasts because all your money and fame will mean nothin on judgement day and that day is comin!

if you’re pastor is quoting jay-z at church, you need to attend a new ministry in a serious way. people think that just because they show up to church fresh-to-death every sunday that they are saved. what jigga is saying is that, “faith without works is dead”.

@ Tammera

AMEN honey because people need to wake up and now.

@ top ramen shotta

You better tell ‘em!!!! I don’t think they heard you!!!

hmmm…

Y’all can believe whatever you want. I just know that I BELIEVE in the Mighty, Matchless Name of Jesus.

Why is her shirt unbuttoned like those mosquito bites she calls boobs are something to show off?? Bwhaahahaha

Tammera

Co-sign but it is the nature of man and the devil plans because it was the same reason why he was kicked out of heaven because of pride, so why not convince God’s new beloved creation to fall and settle for the same fate… It makes a lot of since to me…

reality

stop putting your trust in religion…if as black people we decided to put all the money an time into our children we do into our churches the black community would run the united states…real talk.religion is a crutch like drugs are for the weak minded

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yep! the crack house and the church house are one and the same. black folks are some of the most religious people, yet are addiction to religion doesn’t seem to be improving the state of emergeny in the black family on the black community. we need to go back to massa and ‘em and tell them to take their reLIEgion back, and begin to tapping into the DIVINE GOD WITHIN EACH OF US.

@ oh well

I accept that.

@GoodKarma4Me

*throwing holy water on everyone in this thread*
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OWWwwwww…it burns it burns.

I told yall a few days ago… I am done with hip hop. When the blind leads the blind he leads them right into a ditch. You people can continute to be mislead if you wish. But these are serious times and I have no time for Jay-Z or any of those other ignorant blasphemers.

You think because he has money he’s worth listening to?

Jay Z is a devil. I thought we already established this.
I want TRUTH, not some watered down explanation to lead more of you ignorant people astray.
Dumb asses should know what throwing up that roc sign means by now, but Jay Z says it’s just a symbol and you stupid people throw it up right with him.
Jay Z should explain that sweat shirt he had on that says “Do What Thou Wilt,” which is a famous quote by a devil in the flesh, Aleister Crowley.

@always and forever.

thank you.

@ “Mrs Glok”
your name is a gun and you praise god? wtf you god people are dumber then i thought

I’ve always suspected that Jay Z was an idiot…

NOW I’m CONVINCED!!!!!

What should you expect from a man who calls himself Je-ho-vah?

@The last trumpet is about to blow…

GTFOH! jesus also told his disciples who would come back in thier life time…where he at?

@ROCKKIE,

how do you know that God does the things listed by you? the notion that God or jesus or mohammad is doing anything for anyone is religious speculation at best.

anyone can say some super natural being does things for them…it is pure speculation.

@GoodKarma4Me,

do you or don’t you agree that the notion of a god or no god is speculation?

Well I am black and I don’t follow religion but I have a personal relationship with God and that is the difference… People sit in church for 20 years and have never changed one thing about themselves but instead have picked up 10 more bad habbits.. It is you and the state of you soul who who realizes that it might be time for some more positive changes… When I was a child I thought like a child but now that I am a man I think like a man and that is also the difference…

You people are wilding out. This is what he means:

The city is a virgin, hail mary to the city. Jesus can not save the city, because the city starts living when the church ends.

When the people are inside the churches the city is dead, so Jesus can not save the city. When people leave the churches the city starts moving again.

He doesn’t mean that the people themselves can’t be saved by jesus and the church.

Get it?!

Laugh and boast now, cry later. You can chose to believe anything you want, but your pleas and screams will fall on deaf ears when judgement Day comes. Who did you spread the word to while you were here? Jesus is the truth, the light, and the way.

SPIRITUALITY IS WHAT MATTERS

There is no such thing as the entity “JESUS”.

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there has never being a supernatural man from any race or nationality by the name of jesus to ever walk the earth by the name of jesus. the entity jesus was created in 325 a.d by a few bishops who had been threatened by constantaine.

christianity is nothing more than plagerize concepts from other religions.

If there is any truth to that statement then wow. I certainly hope Jay-z really doesn’t mean anything by those lyrics.Especially from a man calling himself Jehovah (which I dont agree with either)

Some of you are about to find out who Jesus is very soon. You too Jay…

In actuality…religion is man-made…not natural…but spirituality is!

So…no disrespect to Jesus but Ghandi wasn’t christian…I wonder if he made it to heaven.

Jay-Z’s may have delivered it harshly but if he could break it down it would make more sense to you…however, he doesn’t stand as a man of religion nor a man for the good…so I will not be in agreement but it does holds “some” truth…because for some people I know Jesus DID save them, for others it was jehovah, buddah, allah, satan, etc…to each it’s own.

let me also add that jesus is not a universal god…it’s funny how the jews are suppossely the christian god chosen people, yet they don’t even recognize jesus, let alone believe that he’s a god. so who’s telling the truth?

did god forget to tell his chosen people that jesus was also god? will he sent the jews to hell for not believing in jesus? or will he grant the jews an exception cuz they his chosen people?

Hova means Jehovah? No way..

Jesus, Santa Clause, EasterBunny, leprechauns, Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer, and the toothfairy… None of them have powers….

Ok soooo Jay-z doesn’t believe in
Jesus but he is married to a “so called christian” so how does that work exactly. Unless Beyonce is just frontin and doesn’t believe in Jesus either.

Sidenote: her mother looks like a voodoo creole lady sooo i wouldnt be surprised if she isnt really a christian

SELF EXPLANATORY AZZHOLES…..There are ALOT OF HEATHENS THAT GO TO CHURCH, LOTS OF SINNERS ACTING HOLY…DO YOUR BEST WHEN OUT OF CHURCH BCUZ @ THE END OF THE DAY ALL THE SINNERS THAT ARE IN CHURCH WILL PAY FOR THEIR DEEDS ON THE STREETS

say-it-loud!

SPIRITUALITY IS WHAT MATTERS

There is no such thing as the entity “JESUS”.

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there has never being a supernatural man from any race or nationality by the name of jesus to ever walk the earth by the name of jesus. the entity jesus was created in 325 a.d by a few bishops who had been threatened by constantaine.

christianity is nothing more than plagerize concepts from other religions.
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I agree with both these statements.

@say-it-loud

YES I used to wonder the same thing about Jews until I did my research and realized THOSE CHOSEN JEWS are Ben Bernanke (whose middle name is Shalom…lol) and Warren Buffet and the other Federal Reserve Jews who own our money…lmao!

reality

@ “Mrs Glok”
your name is a gun and you praise god? wtf you god people are dumber then i thought
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STFU and show me in the Bible where it speaks AGAINST guns, because in my Bible it says
“Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.”-Luke 22:36

“sword”=protection… No different than what a gun is used for.

“you God people” huh? You’ll be begging for the Most High God when your judgement day comes.

And Jay-Z actually in his song “Off That” makes a reference to Jesus as his God. So people see what what they want to. They wanna believe Jay-Z is “the bad guy” so badly to take the focus off of their own bad. The Kingdom of Heaven is within…Narrow is the gate and there are few who find it. Last time I checked about an odd MILLION people are “Christians”. Mainstream Christianity is none other than pure religion at it’s finest. Well, correction, Mainstream Christians do nothing more than worship externally rather than internally, which does nothing for the soul. God does not dwell in temples built by man. The flesh is the temple and the temple is the Church.

Seems like people only want to believe in God when he is doing something nice for them. Why is it so hard to keep your faith when your going through trying times? The real test is still loving unconditionally when things aren’t going the way you assume they should. If losing your faith in something is that easy, then you never really were down with it in the first place.

Does anyone really know the meaning of unconditional love anymore?

It’s true, some of you have never known God, and probably never will…And thats a real shame…

I think what he is trying to say is that after “church ends” aka the church service you will have more trials to deal with and the church can’t protect from those struggles.

and another thing if you people don’t believe in anything…then where do you think you’re going when you die?

Whut???,

god don’t do ish for me. when i need to find a job, i put forth the efort. when i have to get up in the morning, i do so. the idea that some god is doing stuff for me is nonsene. The only God I know is ME.

I bless and curse myself my actions and my interaction with humanity

@ Whut

I agree with you. I love the lord in good and bad times, I keep my faith and you know he keeps blessing me and my husband and our family everyday. I wish people could really experience the love god has to give, you are nothing without god he made us. He deserves recognition and praise everyday all day.

I used to tell my girlfriends I was a Jehovah Witness after we had been dating for a few weeks to avoid having to buy birthday,Christmas, and Valentine’s presents.

@living in a world of AUTOTUNE…help!!!!!

and another thing if you people don’t believe in anything…then where do you think you’re going when you die?
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what happens to animals when they die? is there a doggy heaven and doggy hell they go to? a rabbit heaven and rabbit hell? do they all go to heaven? the same heaven as we humans go to? what happens to God’s other creations when they die? the ones with no free will?

Black People…RELIGION…that bible they give you in every hotel, motel…holds some truths in my opinion but is VERY altered.

Everything a WHITE MAN has ever given us including THEIR religion was a ploy people…

How many times have we been under attack from emancipation…the saga continues…

Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devil also believes and trembles.” James 2:19 ..

the church is a creation for weak minded people and one to control the masses who ‘need’ to believe in something higher. the church is a farce. Jesus left his church to Mary, not Peter anyway. it was man’s reluctance to be lead by a woman that caused this institution of oppression to be formed anyway.

btw, im a man.

living in a world of AUTOTUNE…help!!!!!

and another thing if you people don’t believe in anything…then where do you think you’re going when you die?

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tell me my dear…was the concept of hell aways part of the christian religion? many christians are ignorant when it comes to religious history, but in their ignorance they are arrogant. what a bad combination.

are the jews also going to hell? over half the word population is not christian, so i take it they are all going to hell right per the christians?

christianity, and to a lesser extent islam, have brought about more destruction and chaos then any other religions. History is our witness

No – he’s just saying that going to church for one hour a week will not save those people who are obsessed with fame and money —- that you might be good in church, but you are judged on how you act when you leave church

Whatever your worse misery is, shall be your hell’s affliction. I see that some are in their hell right now. Don’t know why it keeps happenning to you, huh? Accept Jesus.

jay-z,whether you believe that jesus saves or not does not change the fact that he is the only one saviour that ur mama calls every day of her life time. ony him can save a dying soul like yours. you can ask whitney. I feel sorry for u but i know that you are acting of ignorance and one day you will know but i pray not after the day you close your eyes like M.J. THINK ABOUT IT MULTIDOLLAR MAN.

You may not believe in God but you better believe the devil is real!! And not that cute character in the red suit with the pitch fork! Don’t be deceived God is not mocked.If you don’t believe in something you will fall for anything!

Why do you have to pay so much to attend church? It is like they always want you to pay for something yet all you do is sit around a talk about a book. That is the biggest scam ever.

A Drop of Wisdom

He gonna find out just how real Jesus is before it’s all said and done…no need to argue with a fool or try and understand what they mean.

CO-SIGN

I signed on just to comment on this foolishness. What he probably meant was that life starts when you leave the church. You can go to church but living the WORD is how you get saved. You people will believe anything that is on youtube! And by you people I mean the idiots that never read anything besides the effin internet!

@ Say it Loud

Actually in the original scriptures there is no seperate entity of evil called the Devil. There is no Hell.

I like to talk to a lot of jews because they read the scriptures in the original language and they tell me all the mistranslations in the Christian Bible. A huge one is Eve being taken from Adam’s rib. LOL they laugh at that one.

rude gyal

@say-it-loud

YES I used to wonder the same thing about Jews until I did my research and realized THOSE CHOSEN JEWS are Ben Bernanke (whose middle name is Shalom…lol) and Warren Buffet and the other Federal Reserve Jews who own our money…lmao!

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BINGO! the white man has brain washed us with religion, and led us to believe our suffering is somewhat acceptable cuz we will inherit some allusive kingdom of god while everyone else continues to get rich off our behinds, and we sit around talm bout God/jesus got it, and will reward us for our suffering on earth. if this aint some retarded issh i don’t know what else is.

fuk a kingdom of god, i want my issh now!

I hate when people say “if god exists why is all this stuff happening? They need to understand that WE created all this and is because we DONT follow his path that all this stuff is happening to us….i feel bad for people that don’t have jesus christ in their hearts because he really is the only way to get thru all of this……

@Casenova Thomas

Why do you have to pay so much to attend church? It is like they always want you to pay for something yet all you do is sit around a talk about a book. That is the biggest scam ever.
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LOL…church and religion are the biggest, most lucrative business in the world. they don’t even need to brand, market or advertise themselves…the CONSUMERS go find them instead, lol.

Jay Z is not a christian. Which is his right and it will be his right when he is burning in hell. He thinks because he has money he is above God. But I don’t worry about fools.

I think he means, “you can live when you stop living for the church.”

You know how some churches ask to much of their patrons? Or take advantage of people? Some people believe more in the church than they do God.

@Say it Loud

I stand corrected. There is a hell, but hell in the original scriptures is the word gehenna. This is the grave for every man that dies. So in that sense everyone will go to hell…their grave.

@BoricuaNegro

the church is a creation for weak minded people and one to control the masses who ‘need’ to believe in something higher. the church is a farce.

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I agree with this completely.

BoricuaNegro

the church is a creation for weak minded people and one to control the masses who ‘need’ to believe in something higher. the church is a farce. Jesus left his church to Mary, not Peter anyway. it was man’s reluctance to be lead by a woman that caused this institution of oppression to be formed anyway.

btw, im a man.
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No that would be the crooked and corruptive world that we live in… I love God and have never been described as weak minded person in my life… Wisdom is the most powerful things that one can have in this world but as I love to say to each it’s own because he has never lead me astray or too a ditch but I do trust for the devil ways to damn my life if I was to choose his ways…

ISNT BEYONCE A CHRISTIAN? im just saying…

too*

Well when you don’t look for him the you don’t find him… What does the world really hold precious because it is not the life that is on the planet?

Jay-z is lame

ISNT BEYONCE A CHRISTIAN? im just saying…

I think if she was she gave that up a long time ago…

@ AA
AM i the only one who thinks JAY is super BOMB…. ?

No you’re not the only one I think so too.

@jewel,

it is amazing that people no so little outside of their so called holy books, yet they are arrogant to want to gernalize bull on the rest of humanity.

“hell” is a concept stolen by christianity from pagan religions of its time. There is NO hell in judiasm, and jews do not belive in it.

so then the logical question is this: if the christian god is a universal god, are do believe that his chosen people (the jews are telling the truth, and the christians and everyone else who claims to be talking about the same one god lying?

hell was concept that is way older the the christian religion. the so called pagans brought about the concept of hell, not the christians or jews.

Okay so the majority of the world is not Christian at this given point should God go ahead and destroy it now or send Jesus to come back or whatever and christianity has so many different branches…So God sent his son to give Christianity? or Salvation?

Religion is great for those who aren’t strong or willing to do research however ask yourself some strong standing questions…Ghandi once quoted there is No God above TRUTH…so seek Truth and maybe you’ll find your God…because Truth always prevail.

I think he is being a bit metaphoric, in the Catholic religion you say Hail Mary’s to be forgiven for your sins. New York is a city of sin “Hail Mary to the city”. “You’re a virgin” meaning new to the city. “Life starts when the church ends” meaning only the strong survives in New York the big city of dreams but unless you stop dreaming and start doing no one can help you succeed. This is just my opinion though.

@Rome

Short, sweet and simple.

Yeah, I think it’s heathens will sin when not in church. Way to start a controversy! lolz.

FUK THE CATHOLICS AND THE SATANIC RELIGION !

Hello? What he means is when church ends you must still carry on, carry on in your LIFE, dont let the good end when church ends, carry on.

@jewel,

Jews do not believe in Hell as described by christians, because by definition, Hell is the place for the ETERNAL punishment of the soul, in the next life, for the sins committed in this life. Although Judaism certainly believes in a punishment in the next life for the sins committed in this life, Jews do not believe in Hell because they believe their god to forgiving, compassionate, and merciful. So, the idea of an ETERNAL punishment makes Gd look Cruel, and prevents them from believing in the type of hell described by christians.

Hell, Satan…that’s to stir FEAR

God doesn’t operate in fear…you know what fear leads to CONTROL>>>there’s your fear for the economy as well.

Awww look at the Gloks on here tag teaming…that’s so cute…show them what love looks like…they need something if they think they need Jesus!

Carry on in your life , dont let it end when church ends, because in life is where it ALL begins. Expand your mind people!!!

Check out this story. http://dalockerroom.com/index.php/2009/10/02/jayz-part-world-order/

Wow you’re reaching but I took it as, soon as you exit the churches walls, life starts meaning you’ll have to face some real life challenges which you wouldn’t have to deal with while in church. And the Jesus can’t save you part is referring to people get saved in church not while they’re out of church. But be careful this man calls himself young Hova.

@ Say it Loud

Dont get me wrong. I know the Creator and I have no choice but to consider myself somewhat Christian since I’ve chosen Jesus as my teacher,(or rather He chose me)I’d just rather LIVE His message than just read about it and know it mentally. I also understand that whatever culture you grew up in, that is the God you will adhere to. And Christ taught not to antagonize those with a different faith than your own. I think a lot of them have something to contribute to the TRUTH. Which is what I seek, not religion. But I also know to be careful what you ask for b/c not everyone can handle the truth.

Im going to go plug one of my snow bunnies now. She is leaking and needs help.

This is actually a great discussion. What I think Jay is trying to say is that GOD, JESUS, and CHURCH have been spun. If yall notice, politicians use GOD/JESUS to gain political support all the time. You have fools who voted for bush in his second term simply because he claimed “he spoke to God before each presidential decision”. Bush’s second term ended up being a disaster. We also have Pastors of large churches making millions of dollars off of their ministries. They have turned church into a hustle. People in power have realized that if they mention “JESUS” or “GOD”, they can get their constituents to follow them blindly. These idiots also seem to decide who is going to HEAVEN and HELL. (some of yall on this site)

The point is that presently, CHURCH has become a mess. Pastors preach bout monogamy and then sleep with half the congregation AND MAKE BABIES out of wedlock (MESSY JESSY). Politicians shout out to JESUS, get elected, and do some of the most devilish things. With all of this, I can understand why some people might have to “take a break” from church or are finished with church completely.

P.S. JESUS IS REAL, HE IS GOD, AND HE IS COMING BACK. But we need to get back to the real meaning of Christianity and start reppin’ the REAL JESUS, not these fakes that all these fanatics create.

Holla at me

explained here

http://xlerate.posterous.com/hiding-in-plain-sight

Shawn Corey Carter is an idiot, plain and simple. All the money in the world wont save this fool! Anyone that doesn’t believe that there is a God should step up. I have a couple of questions I need to ask…

@ chaka1

he calls himself jay hova which is a mockery of jehovah and he also refers to himself as the god mc..also i heard jayz in a certain creole language means jesus so basically his names are a mockery of Jesus.

JAY Z IS A FREE MASON!!! THATS WHY.. DON’T LISTEN TO HIS SATAN MUSIC..LOL..

FOREAL THOUGH HE IS A FREE MASON.. I GUESS BEY IS TOO? SHE MARRIED ONE

@ Jewel

20 people can read the same sentence and you’ll get 20 different responses. Some make sense and some don’t. It depends on what your perspective on life is. Some people live in a diferent world than the rest of us.

IMO he is just stating a well known fact…..plenty of young people come from all over and are “virgens” to city life. They get here and are overwhelmed by the lack of parental supervison aka “church” and newfound freedom.Not always but its a common story that happens all over NYC.People get hooked on drugs, cash, sex, the city life…and often end up in the gutter. I don’t really feel he is dissin religion just reinforcing that if you can make it in NYC….you know the rest.

It would have been nice to post all of the lyrics so that an informed decision or judgement could be made. I can not and will not comment on the lyrics until I am able to hear/read every word that comes before and after that line you chose to isolate…

this dude is so lame!!!!!!cant wait till the day he is truley revealed, somebody please check this dudes radar……….its a bit like “im think im god, and i have truly lost my damn mind!!!!!!!!”

I swear I hate these kind of discussions. I see the ignoramuses are already here.

Wow, anytime religion is the topic people get excited and very defensive! One of the issues I have with organized religion myself, even though I do believe in a higher power…but some of you are so wrapped up in your beliefs that you are missing what he was saying…someone here said it most accurate “faith without works is dead” – Do you realize there are people who feel they have to do little to nothing for themselves because they believe Jesus will take care of everything?

SMH at people calling Jay an idiot because he points out real life circumstances.

What a lot of people don’t understand is YES, IF YOU DO NOT LIVE HOLY, PRAY FOR FORGIVENESS FOR YOUR SINS, stop DOING those same SINS REPEATELY, and DECLARE THE LORD AS YOUR SAVIOR, YOU WILL INDEED BURN IN HELL. It doesn’t matter if it was Ghaundi, Brandy, Me, You, Alicia Keys, Jay-Z, Obama, Oprah, your cousin,, your mother and father WHOEVER, you will burn in hell. The lord does not pick and choose favorites, and just because you do good deeds or display some good qualities as a person, doesn’t mean you are going to make it into heaven. You have to DIE in your sins and give your LIFE to him. He died for you no matter if you believe it to be true or not. Unfortunately for many it will be too late when they actually realize the error in their sinful or blasphemous ways. I’m not trying to judge ANYONE because I am sinner just like you. But please believe if I don’t get my life together as well as EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD, we will burn in hell. And that’s real.

If Pac and Biggie were alive Jay z would have never elevated to the level he is at.. the Rap game was purged at the top in 1996 – 1997. We went from rappers talking about real social and street issues to talking about ice, bentleys, and rims.. all thanks to your boy.. Greatest Rapper? Dont think so.. Greatest sell out.. definately..

Hey JCSuperstar

@ Fiasco
Aww preach…

And for the people defending Jay-z saying he talking about “the city” his metaphor is still showing that he does not believe in God. I mean that’s his choice IDC but this METAPHOR is just showing how he feels about Jesus and the reality is that he feels that “Jesus can’t save you” READ BETWEEN THE LINES YALL its deeper that just some lyrics…

Just finished deleting all his songs from my computer. My loss? No.

I am really shocked by alot of people on here. I am a Christian to the fullest. I believe Jesus died on the cross for our sins and rose from the died to be with his father God in Heaven. I couldn’t imagine like without Jesus and to sit here and read some of the comments (which I couldn’t ead the entire post)just really made me think about the way the world is today. This is why its such a mess. You have all these people who don’t believe and then those who make you think they believe. I have kids growing up in this world and I pray everyday that the Lord keeps them safe from harm. I would not want to bring a child up in the society this days. with all the no believers and mockers. You all will see when the Lord comes back to get his children you will be wishing you had went to church or learned the word. I love Jay-Z and I really hope he clarifies this. and as for all of you good luck in life and remember people like me are praying for all of you. God Bless

Yall buggen on this jesus path. It dont got nothen 2 do with what yall think.

“Hail Mary to the city you’re a Virgin, and Jesus can’t save you, life starts when the church ends.”

He’s just quoting ”
Hail Mary-The end, When its said and done,come wit me
Virgin- Never been through somethen
Jesus cant save u- He usually thinks he’s god “Hova” so Dont look 4 help
Life starts when church ends- After being taught do somethen for yourself.

Basicaly staten – Follow me N.Y. Ive been through the bull u didnt,I cant save the City, But after I teach u , your on your own. Holla.

I think you all need to listen to the whole song. J was talking about a female who got caught up in the fast life of New York. Basically, you have to try to better yourself. You can’t do grimey stuff, go to church, do grimey stuff and expect help from Jesus without changing your life outside of church. Hence, once church stops, life begins. That’s how I took it.

Proverbs 18:2-”A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinion.”

yeah, yeah, im the Bible Thumper.. but the Word of God has never lied. Who are you going to believe Jay-Z or God?

Glok did you look at this clip up above THE BAPHOMET, now it is saying that all THE BAPHOMET
are black celebrites do you believe this and do you think that it is contained in one race because I don’t?

now these comments are hilarious. the only problem i see is religious fanatics doing they’re same ole fear mongering by telling ppl they better believe or else. listen if you believe thats fine and im not saying i dont believe but i am saying thats MY choice and the next man has the right to believe w/e he chooses. just bc some1 doesnt believe in Jesus doesnt mean they’re the devil and for an adult to say something like that is just ignorant. how many ppl use the name of Jesus to justify/glorify doing hateful things? also HAVE you read this book you put so much faith in? not just the popular verses but the entire book? do you knwo how this book came about or was this something you were taught as a child and now you hold on to it as if your life depended on it? me perosnally i was raised in the church but honestly so called christians are the ones that lead me to questioning religion. i mean how can you claim to be a christian in one breathe and then scream derogatory things at some1 bc they dont believe the same thing in your next breathe? to me thats so far from what Christ represents. also ive been doing a lot of reading and from these books the one thing that stands out to me is Jesus was not worshipped by your ancestors. europeans brought Jesus into our lives. i dont think if you believe in Jesus that you should stop but i do think black ppl place too much of their PERSONAL responsibilites in the hands of Jesus when in reality of you dont get off ur a$$ and make it happen it will never happen. stop expecting every1 to be as you are, think as you think, act as you act. we are all individuals and unless your actions are causing harm to another individual you have the RIGHT to do as you please.

WHAT WHITE? NOT ONCE IN THE BIBLE THEY STATED GOD WAS WHITE (THE WHITE FOLKS CHRISTIAN BELIEVES THAT HE IS WHITE) BUT IN THE BIBLE HIS HAIR FELT LIKE WOOL WHAT WHITE PERSON HAIR FEEL LIKE WOOL.

i think he means everybody is holier then though in church..but the real them comes out when they leave church an go about the business in thier lives….

jesus cant save u,life starts whenthe church ends.

i hope alecia gettin-it-in. yall know she down w/ OPP. that’s one married dude w/ no morals. lol! other than that, that luciferian babbler need to STFU & STFD!!

@Cantria

I’m thrilled that you posted that verse. But I find the ppl that are just crucifying this man are guilty of not trying to understand what is saying.

Also Jay would love for that line to spark a big controversy since that means more $$

Cantria

Proverbs 18:2-”A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinion.”

yeah, yeah, im the Bible Thumper.. but the Word of God has never lied. Who are you going to believe Jay-Z or God?
*******************************************
Nothin’ wrong with being a Bible thumper. Truth will prevail, and Jay Z (and his followers) will burn in Hell.

I believe the Word of God.

@ Never Take Sides

This isn’t the first instance. could you explain the “Lucifer” song? what the hell is “If Jesus paying Lebron, I’m paying Dwayne Wade”?

yeah, you are dumb if you don’t get it, overtly pious idiots.

Everybody is on Jay like he is the devil incarnate….is it just me or does “Lil Wayne” say in his song entitled “successful” with Drake…..

ask her who i am to her,
and she yell god,
weezy baby I go real hard,
no further details boy.

Now who thinks they are GOD again?

@ Whatever Jay-Z believes it’s working!

You are dumb.

When I was a child:

1) I was TOLD by my elders that Santa Claus would deliver the goods, and I BELIEVED. My faith in the IDEA of Santa Claus sustained and strengthened my BELIEF. I then became a ‘Santa-bot’.

2) I was TOLD by elders that Jesus would deliver the goods, and I BELIEVED. My faith in the IDEA of Jesus sustained and strengthened my BELIEF. I then became a ‘Christian’.

3) As I grew older and MATURED, physically and MENTALLY, and after my elders told me that Santa Claus was ‘make-believe’, I disregarded the Santa tale as a myth, and moved on.

4) As I grew older and MATURED, physically and MENTALLY, I disregarded the Jesus tale as a myth, and moved on.

WHY HAVEN’T YOU?

The same psychological attributes that we use to create and sustain the Santa imagination are the same used to create and sustain Jesus, satan, the angels and all of their friends.

Come on y’all, snap the ‘f’ out of the Imagination Game!

The fwesh pwince™

@ Whatever Jay-Z believes it’s working!

You are dumb.
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I totally agree. only fools talk like that @ (Whatever Jay-Z believes it’s working!)…

@ The fwesh pwince

Have your actually heard Lucifer? The chorus goes Lucifer Lucifer dawn of the morning I’m going to CHASE you out of here. He also made references to getting his soul right and getting the devil OUT of his life.

Also, he said that he calls himself because he came before all of the current rap game, it’s misguided but you guys are trying to make him the anti-christ or something. It’s not that serious.

@da4seentruth

Catholics are Christian……….you’re ignorant

Hey people just look at it this way, the more people that don’t except Jesus the more room there will be for us in Heaven…

The problem with people bashing the bible is they apparently dont understand it period. GOD speaks to your heart not your mind. Its like when you want to do something you know shouldn’t and you get that feeling that is HIM. And if you still dont want to believe just look around a see all the things he has provided for you like eyes hands feet air etc…Now man could even come close creating theses things. Sometimes he allows things to happen so you will learn because if he jumped every time we said so why else would we believe and abide by his word. There is a devil and there is a God both have power. Furthermore the BIBLE says ever body will bow down and every mouth will confess he is GOD on judgment day. So you keep believing that if you want to.

@ Quantum-Santa and the toothfairy are not real.

But Jesus is more real than anyone on this earth.. you best believe it! And Jesus is no fairy tale.

I can see this will be an all day long convo…No need to comment, I’ll just read everyone’s stuff…

ITS SAD THAT PEOPLE VIEW CHRISTIANITY IN THIS WAY.
IT SEEMS THAT THE FURTHER THIS COUNTRY GETS FROM GOD THE WORSE OFF WE BECOME.
WHILE JAY OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT, NO ONE’S “god” SHOULD BE MOCKED. WHAT LACKS IN OUR SOCIETY IS HUMILITY AND KIND HEARTEDNESS, AND THE BIBLE IS FILLED WITH SUCH TEACHINGS, ANYONE WHO CAN’T AGREE WITH THAT IS NAIVE AND MYOPIC.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FIGHTING THE BIBLE SINCE ITS INCEPTION BUT, ITS STILL HERE. MUST BE A STRONGER POWER BEHIND IT THAN YOU AND I.
ONE COMMON THREAD I NOTICE AMONG MOST DISBELIEVERS IS THE UNWILLINGNESS TO LET GO OF “SIN” AND CERTAIN IMMORALITIES. ITS KIND OF LIKE BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP. DUDES DON’T WANT TO START SLEEPING AROUND AND BEING DOGS SO THEY DON’T COMMIT AND COME UP WITH BS REASONS TO AVOID DOING SO. ON TO THE NEXT ONE

@ Re

“You know how some churches ask to much of their patrons? Or take advantage of people?”

That’s true… especially today. But that’s got nothing to do with Jesus or his teachings. In fact Jesus warned AGAINST churches like that (Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.) as well as against being followers of people like JayZ.

Jesus cant save you life starts when the church ends —– isnt anything against religion. People think that by going to church they are going to be free from hell but the fact is you have to live upright and justly; not just attending church. All of u are dumbasses.

CORRECTION “DUDES DON’T WANT TO STOP SLEEPING AROUND”

I don’t give a f*ck about what he has to say to explain that verse. He speaks that way about God, Jesus, Mother Mary and he will be the next to go down in a plain crash. He’s not above God! Jay-Z is either making love to the devil or his life is about to come to an end. When you start mentioning God’s name in your sh*t in a negative light boy O boy you done f*cked yourself now! It was nice to have heard your music but RIP! Jay Z. Excuse me… When he comes to get you he’s gone be like Sean Carter I am taking you now!

I think this world is spiralling downward I know I want to be one of the ones to rise above this – cuz folks are really loosing their minds…regardless of Jay’s belief’s does politically correct mean anything to him what is so sad is that when all this is said and done

i won’t listen to that

On the real, he wants a following. He wants a cult. Guess what he got be me I will never bow down to him. I dont buy his music when I never purchased Roca Wear he had his name on it from what Im told he sold it. He isn’t going to be where he is for long. His turn to fall is coming near.

It’s sad how people defend a person whom they don’t know personally. But bash the “idea” of God when they clearly never gave relationship not religion a try.

Oh and BTW… Jesus CAN INDEED save you.

There is a bit more to this life than meets the eye. But many will perish for lack of this knowledge.

i swear, this dude is in more and more mediums everyday so i systematically boycott ANYTHING that supports his illuminati cause. that means one of my morning shows, WAY-TOO-EARLY on MSNBC, THE NY POST, NY DAILY NEWS, GOV. PATERSON, etc.
his music pure poison, we r in the matrix and he is agent smith that is out of control. his music and anything like it will destroy us all!

it is rumored that he is Illuminati a freemason

@Stop
The true dumbass is you thinking people and church make them better it’s the fact that Jay-Z is being blasphemous and disrespectful…

Yeah..here comes the illumanti conspiracy theories. Your daggone right! Jay-Z has always rejected God since he said he don’t pray to God he prays to GOTTI. Pray for his soul. The music knocks but he is dark. To be in the elite you reject Christ and follow the Devil. God have mercy on all those souls. Forgive them Father for they know not what they do!

I feel sorry for the one’s who haven’t accepted Jesus Christ on this message board. There is still time to buy a Bible, go to church, pray, and give your life to Christ. When you die, that’s it!

@Rome

if we are all created in God’s image then maybe we are all little gods…

@ %#&?!!

Hey!!! I C U up in here.

GOD IS MOST DEFINITELY REAL! TO ALL THOSE THAT DONT BELIEVE,LIKE QUANTUM, SORRY FOR YA!!! ITS GONNA BE DARK AND HELL GONNA BE HOT!!!!

@aleximaq: in the song he said “if JEZZY playing Lebron, Im playing Dewayne Wade”…Jezzy has a song that says “I used to play Kobe, but now I play lebron”..

See people be arguing and don’t even know what they are arguing about.

Secondly, We were created in the likeness of God. For all you “christians” who are dumb enough to pray to a white Jesus, please re-read genisis with an open heart to get an understanding of what I am about to say: Since God (s) made us in his image, we were already created with the power that we pray for him to give us. Jesus is not the giver of power. the power has alredy been given to you. Stop using the Lord as a convience and get a real relationship with him, and realize that it is you that holds your fate. and anyway, nine times out of ten we pray for money, which is obviously the root of all evil. Become spiritual, do your research, and stop using GOD as a crutch.

@Jcsuperstar

That is sooo true!

EVERYONE IN HOLLYWOOD AND MOST IN THE MUSIC BIZ WORSHIPS THE DEVIL, INCLUDING OPRAH, OBAMA, TD JAKES, JESSE JACKSON, ETC! AND HAVE TO SACRIFICE SOMEONE TO OBTAIN RICHES! DO YOUR DAMN RESEARCH!!

People are not looking deeper enough into this verse. I think he is talking about NY. I think it has nothing to do with God or religion.

LOl blake..it’s the truth once you start testing God..the wrath comes. John Lennon took it to the head talking about the beatles bigger than Jesus! yeah right, you won’t so big when ole boy put one in you disbelieving brain. Woe unto them..that reject our God! they will all see in the end, pray they repent and seek salvation through the blood of JESUS CHRIST!!!

I guess I’m the only one that hasn’t bought his album

Okay, if Shawn Carter doesn’t believe in God, good for him. He should hold his peace. Not going around disrespecting God, calling himself “Jay-hova” and starting shit. Can anyone gimme reasons why there isn’t a God?? I thought so…

I had to stop reading the comments after the 12:40 mark and just pray for some of you writing such blasphemy against my Lord and Savior. I don’t know if anyone said it before me, but I’m saying it…Every knee is going to bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of the Father. It’s best to do it now while we still have a choice. Almighty GOD will not be mocked. For those of you who think JayZ is successful, please open the eyes of your heart and realize that Jesus truly is the only way. There is no other name under heaven – “Jesus is ‘the stone you masons threw out, which is now the cornerstone.’ Salvation comes no other way; no other name has been or will be given to us by which we can be saved, only this one.” Acts 4:10-12

@ Leslie
Hey people just look at it this way, the more people that don’t except Jesus the more room there will be for us in Heaven…

Lil miss I think im going to heaven cuz yall aint.May just go to hell because of that statement.Remember only god can judge, thats why I said u may just go to hell. That aint up 2 me,lol. But think b4 u try 2 get on a spiritual level, Or just lol 2 let people know u just foolen with them .

@80shevy It’s a little bit of both. He’s using really heavy metaphors. I’m mad some people’s brains take everything so literal!

@ BK

I got no problem with the statement “life starts when church ends” However, regardless of how you try to rationalize it. The statement “Jesus can’t save you” is a blasphemous lie. It is the exact opposite of the truth. And “Satan” is the father of all lies.

Unfortunely for Jay-Z life begins where Jesus begins. It is a shame he does not care to know this, and Lord have mercy on his soul. Anyone who makes/raps a song called Lucifer is not on the side of Jesus at all. Sorry to say, but Jay-Z’s soul was lost a long time ago. It is wonderful Jesus is long-suffering and willing to give mankind much time to repent. I pray that Jay-Z see’s the light of Jesus instead of Lucifer whom he feels is “dawn of the morning”. How sad.

ummm, I don’t understand his meaning behind his lyrics, either.

Jesus is our Savior and the church is always there when no one else is there. If you don’t believe, you don’t believe but don’t knock what other people believe.

Also, Jesus does save you, if you let him and Jesus is life. Jesus leaves it up to us to choose.

@MrS*Glok

Re-read your own statement.

No one said Said God doesnt exist, and the bible is a reference point. The keys are already in us.

@The Bear I feel you. My father is a minister, and I went to church every Sunday growing up, and still do. I’m a born-again Christian and am not ashamed of my Lord & Savior. I just need folks to stop being so dramatic and taking a song, someone’s art, so literally, and demonizing the man. Sheesh.

@Fwesh Pwince

There is a creator and higher force I actually like to call God brought up Christian.

my thing is religion isn’t what you think. Bhuddists, Muslims, Jews, Christians, Athiests, Satanists, etc…we have all witnessed miracles and healings…so the power exist in us and in our words…the more you say it, the more you empower it…like Candyman…lol

JAY-Z WAS TELLING HOW IT IS. RELIGION WAS IMPLEMENTED TO CONTROL THE MASSES. JESUS’S STORY IS THE SAME AS ALL THE OTHER SUN GODS. JESUS’S STORY IS SYMBOLISM USED TO EXPLAIN SUMMER AND WINTER SOLTICES. MAJORITY OF SCHOLARS DO NOT BELIEVE IN ORGANIZED RELIGION WHY? BECAUSE THEY READ AND RESEARCH AND HAVE COME CLOSER TO THE TRUTH THAN ANY INDIVIDUAL READING THE BIBLE ONLY. B.I.B.L.E. BASIC INSTRUCTIONS BEFORE LEAVING EARTH. TO THE CONGREGATION THE BIBLE IS A WAY OF LIFE. TO THE PEOPLE WHO INVENTED IT IT’S AN ENCRYPTED BLUE-PRINT OF THEIR STRATEGY. THIS IS JUST MY OPINION BASED ON MY OWN RESEARCH SO NO NEED FOR ANYONE TO BE DISRESPECTFUL. MY LIFE DID NOT START UNTIL CHURCH ENDED. THE MYTH OF ME BURNING IN HELL FOR MY SINS SCARED ME MANY NIGHTS, AND I WAS MORE AFRAID OF GOD THAN THE DEVIL. NOW WITH MY BETTER UNDERSTANDING I FEEL BLESSED AND LOVED BY GOD AND I’M AT PEACE WITH MYSELF. REMEMBER WE ARE 1 PLANET IN 1 SOLAR SYSTEM. THERE ARE OVER 50 BILLION PLANETS THINK ABOUT IT! 1 BOOK WRITTEN BY HYPOCRITES RULES YOUR EXISTENCE

Who are we to judge anyone!

@Never Take Sides

um…for you to say she may be going to hell is taking sides therefore makes you hypocritical…you took the side against her, correct?

@ T and others,

My comments are no so much directed about Jay Z as they are to others. None of these comments surprise me. First, the word of God says that to “the world”, the things of God are foolish.

1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

In other words, you cannot understand the things of God with your intellect or logic, which this world relies on quite heavily. God is a spirit and man, being created in His image, also has a spirit, lives in a body and has a soul. Unless you have revelation from God, along with His godly wisdom, you can’t get it and it will not make sense to you. Our flesh, physical nature is evil by nature (seeks to gratify itself only) and is contrary to God’s nature. Our spirit is another matter.

News-If you are not a child of God, you are a child of Satan, weather you know it or not. Satan is a liar, and is effective in doing his job, convincing people he is not real.

People, get it together. This is not something to play with. God’s power is infinite as is His grace and mercy.

Weather you know it or not, you woke up today by His grace, His Amazing grace. God is everywhere and knows all of your thoughts and secrets. Better get to know Christ today while you still have breath in your body.

The word says that there is a way that seemeth right to man, but the end thereof is destruction. Better stop relying on what you think you know and ask God what the truth is. It does not end once our bodies die on earth, please believe it.

Christ is coming back. Is you name on the roll?

Jay Z is a Lucifierien who believes that he is the GOD and the creator, this is why he calls himself Hova (God). Jay Z wears shirts that states “Do what thou wilt”, he follows Luciferien laws. When he was featured in O magazine he was holding a book by Eckhart Tole which is a new age author (research it).
In Empire State of mind he states “he bleeds blue but not a crip”, he is stating he bleeds the color of the Masons which is their power color. Why do you think he has a color named Jay Z blue, his yacht is filled with the same color tone, etc. Some of you dont want to believe because he is black, but im sure if it were a white man many of you would think he is a satanist.

Fiasco…you are on point…thanks for sharing the words of wisdom

bravo

i agree wit always and forever. you folks want to hit here and blog against christ who died just so we can be forgiven of our sins will see who jesus, but ill pray for you all. jay z must and will know who jesus is.

Jay Z is the devil, he got legions of demons running through him.

Anywho, I found this new blog http://www.antiqueorange.com, check it out

If you notice Oprah no longer speaks of Jesus, she speaks as if she is the creator and believes in a god but we dont know which god she believes in. Even Beyonce stopped speaking of Christ when she hooked up with Jay Z, when she was in DC she always gave the praise to Jesus now she states Jay Z blesses her music. You cannot be a christian and be an entertainer, it will not work because you have to compromise. Do you think God is in agreement with Beyonce gyrating and having men lust after her on purpose? No, God isnt involved in that.

jsy & oprah were cool b4 the show too…they attended the same meetings…you never see Big O praising and thanking Jesus either…

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Ofcourse I believe in God. Strongly.

@Kenny I swear I posted at the same time because your comment wasn’t up yet…lol…good point!

And clearly when he refers to himself as Hov/Hova he’s saying he’s the god MC. He’s saying he’s god of this rap game. People, are you really this petty and simple-minded to think he’s saying he’s Lord of lords? It’s amazing how self-righteous folks can be over the net. I’m sure ya’ll are all living sin-free round this piece! Yeah and while you all are in your Bibles, please read that scripture about passing judgement. It’s not on us to condemn people and cast stones. Let’s leave that up to God.

Oprah is now into that new age religion, you cannot attain that much money without compromising and making deals with the devil. Also, Why do you think Obama is so cool with both Jay Z and Oprah? Noting is a coincidence, everything is planned.

I love Jayz but I see he has lost his mind along with his homeboy I see

I don’t listen to Jay. But Swizz did a good job with the beats on “On to the next one”. I wish someone else would rap over it.

Anyhoo, good afternoon everyone.

@Bk
You really making excuses for this dude. Either way why are you calling yourself GOD? I dont care if its for music or not, do you know who the god is of Music or Mc’ing is? Lucifer!!! Lucifer was the angel of music it was in the air….. Why do you think our music is repetitive? or chanting? Jay is calling him self J Hova and when you combine that with holding up the roc sign and chanting his name in a group setting what do you think that is? I believe in energy and calling things into the universe so I know the affect it has. Jay Z knows his FOLLOWERS are SHEEP and cant decipher what he is really rapping about. I dont even listen to Single Ladies because its chanting and why you do the single ladies dance your hand is in the air waving like your in church praising…. thats why Beyonce stated she liked the song so much because it reminded her of church

thats why he has oprah on text and obama on speedial…why do u think Jada & Will no longer are Christians…

they are learning at a faster pace with a moire flexible schedule…

IF YOU THINK READING BEYOND THE BIBLE IS CRAZY AND BELIEVING JUST THEN BIBLE IS GOOD ENOUGH…then perhaps…who’s the fool?

@ Cantria

If that’s the case (that you speak to the young people out in Hollywood) I commend you and I agree with you, God is the best and most righteous producer of change in a person’s life. The best way to lead is by example, practicing what you preach. People respect when your actions back up what you say. It means that your words have substance and are true. So good, glad that some of those kids have someone telling them something that may help.

My comment was just breakin down my understanding of a lyric. It’s really not a religious debate for me cause again, I don’t care what Jay Z believes, I am only concerned with my salvation. Besides, isn’t it judgemental to say JayZ is an angel or demon? Really not my concern, that’s between him and God. And my life and beliefs are between me and God. As far as I can tell, God and I get along great- that’s my friend to the end!

wow…I hope Jay-z isnt athiest or nothing…but I cant decipher truly what he meant by that lyric so therefore Im a leave it alone….

Jay-z I dont believe does not think JESUS is real but I cant say that he does either….but I would hope he realize where his blessings and gifts come from b4 its too late.

@ Kenny

Wow! You speak the truth! But don’t waste your time trying to educate them. You did good by stating the facts. But now it is up to them to take it how they want. I know I won’t be losing any sleep over Jay Z or his followers…

@Kenny

preach…the more you say it then the more you empower it…especially if you get more to agree and chant it!!!

Now I know your Bible taught you that…because YOUR bible taught ME that…please start research immediately…

start with youtube clips and then decipher which journey to take because you are deprived of a lot of history if you believe in RELIGION.

Also Historians aren’t quite Christians either…because when they do their RESEARCH they find quite a bit happened BEFORE religion…before the Bible.

Tis funny how black folk are quick to ill-speak the absent brotha’ with 8 kids by 8 women, but ride and co-sign their absent God from cradle to the grave!

@The fwesh pwince

I also deleted jay-z’s music from my pc, i am a follower of GOD and i cannot listen to jay-z’s demonic music.He and riahanna’s music are all over youtube in documentaries stating how demonic they are and thier music,When jesus returns all who have denied him will be begging for his mercy and forgiveness but it will be too late for you. Better repent.

All of this has been written. The denouncing of GOD, the non believers, all of this defending Jay Z and others who have the same intentions as them. “Forgive them Father for they know not what they do”

A lot of you talking about God, Jesus and HIS validity. I pray for your eyes to be opened. Some write “how can Jesus let this or that happen” Come one. Ask a real question.

How come GOD hasn’t dealt with everyone’s sin? Uh Oh.

Everyone has their opinion that God should be on their schedule. GOD created time! I know the bible says you can’t argue with people unsaved the same way because they only see physical, so I leave you with this.

Die and see if anyone is talking about you 2000 years later.

@Manny

no denouncing of GOD, just not a follower of Jesus.

Divine Evidence dot Com

http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_similarities.html

Ok, some people need to look up the true meaning of the name/term Lucifer and stop confusing that with the name/term Satan

@Manny

all of this was written by whom though?

Ya’ll some fools up in here! the ones that are posting that blaphemous stuff about God and Christ…wow!! some people!!!

Jay-Z will regret saying that. I’m a Christian, and that line was very offensive to me. I definitely will NEVER support him EVER.

@Big Body

check out Divine Evidence dot Com and your questions will be answered.

You fans can’t save JayZ when God deals with him you will be no where around to plea his case JayZ alone must explain what is the meaning of his lyrics. God sees the heart not the outer man. We will see how God feel about whay Jayz said, because karma comes quick now days.

Well I am black and I don’t follow religion but I have a personal relationship with God and that is the difference… People sit in church for 20 years and have never changed one thing about themselves but instead have picked up 10 more bad habbits.. It is you and the state of you soul who who realizes that it might be time for some more positive changes… When I was a child I thought like a child but now that I am a man I think like a man and that is also the difference…
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@RESURECTED, EXACTLY!!!!! I AGREE HIGHLY

Thats all there is to it, Is knowing God, having a close personal relationship with him and not idolizing or worshipping anything or anyone other then him….The Devil is dancing and laughing at such fools that are soo easily manipulated into believing God does NOT EXIST…OR that you have to belong to a church or religion to be close to God…not realizing God is right here in our hearts everyday and every second. We have not only the bible but our spirituality that we open our eyes to truth and give us lead way to God for whenever we may need to talk to him or for comfort etc….I just love God and it hurts everytime I hear anyone say he does not exist, because unfortunately you cant save or help everybody. I am wise enough to know by example from GOD you never should or have to PROVE NOTHING to anyone. The truth shall and WILL BE SHOWN.

theres another line in empire state of mind that doesn’t really sit right with me. When he says ” in the city its a pity half of y’all won’t make it” Look i’ve always been a diehard hov fan but for him to say half of y’all won’t make implies to me that he isn’t one of us. All that money made hov lose touch if you listen to most of the album you’ll notice that

SOme of you so called Christians were just cussing up in the other threads anyways…it’s about time you search for more because Jesus doesn’t seem to be helping you expand that vocabulary…

@ant…WOW…ARE YOU CRAZY..do you not realize the difference in what you said regarding Jesus?? Lord have mercy…I am not surprise at 89% of these GOSSIPERS on here not believing in God or Christ himself. smh. That WAS BLASPHEMOUS to the tenth power. The world is gettin crazier by the second, and the internet and especially blog sites are showcasin just a small percentage of the illminded that exist in this world.

Its hip hop people…the freedom of expression. I never and I mean never acknowledge jay z as (hov). I think he was disrespectful for even going there. Lyrically he is the best out there no doubt about it. But deciphering his lyrical content (to what he believes inside the hip hop environment) is unfair and unjust. If and when he is interviewed and asked do you believe in God – based on that answer thats when we all can discuss this matter. Until then…this is just a lost cause. Unless someone on here had a discussion with Mr. Carter last night to end the conspiracy. Anyone?? Anyone?? Thought so.
Lastly- The song is off the hook – especially for my city (NYC)

One thing for sure there must be a movement to save hip hop it is on its last breath.

Just because you don’t believe in organized religion doesn’t mean you dont have a personal connection with GOD. If people would actually READ the bible instead of listening to what their Preacher pieced together, they may know this.

Smooches!!

@Issys

Chile you can’t tell some people that. Especially church folks. You say ANYTHING disparaging about them folks “passa” (pastor) and they will put Jesus to the side real quick to shank you. I don’t go to church and I don’t ever plan to go again. I’ll keep my relationship w/ the superior one to myself.

Jay-Z stated that he is more spiritual than religous..A lot of people are.

@ BLACK IS GLAMOUR

You must be a Seventh-Day Adventist, being that you don’t observe Sunday worship, nor anything else being done on a Sunday.

@speaking truth

okay so I didn’t talk to Jay but I did research did you? did you? lol…and it’s parallel to what is unfolding right before my eyes…

one who truly speaks to celebs shouldn’t say anyways…but I have heard stories from horses mouths about the industry which got this journey started in the first place…

I’m not saying denounce anything but Satan…however please do some more research…your beliefs should still stand if you REALLY believe…some don’t research because they FEAR what they may find but you will actually be quite delighted with what you find…peace & blessings.

@Queen T
@Speaking the Truth…

I’m with yall. Half of these people should listen to the first song on the record which “What We Talkin Bout”. I love when he says “I cant base what I’m gone be off of what everybody isn’t”. You can lead a horse to the water but you cant make it drink. I honestly think he is telling ppl how to make it, but it is up to them. This is in ALL aspects of life. These ppl on here crucifying him as if they saw him saluting Satan, Or a secret society came to them personally and asked them to join, remind me of this skit I saw that showed ppl accusing this woman to be a witch. LOL They were saying she looked like a witch, but they were the ones who put the false nose on her and the hat and the wart. LOL And when the King decided she wasn’t a witch they yelled “Well burn her anyways!!!”. Similar to the ppl killing Jesus b/c he was speaking “blasphemies”. When all he was doing was speaking the truth. I always wonder how many ppl today would’ve actually recognized Jesus for who he was, because they denounced him and killed him based on the religious teachings of their time.

Thank Goodness they gave you the Bible because y’all refuse to do some darn studying…

I guess in that aspect Jesus have saved you…lol…

@Rude Gyal

Can I ask you to show me a CREDIBLE source that you got your info from? And please, no YOUTUBE, the reason why things are parallel for you is becasue you’ve internalized what you have read about Jay-Z and accepted it. So any chance you get, that is what you will be looking for so that is what you will see. It’s all psychology. It’s all about perception, “As you believe, so shall it be”.

@Rude Gyal….hey mama..not a chrisitian here…

but a CHILD OF GOD…and umm I dont boast about how God has helped me because thats for me and him to know…The proof is in my LIFE….and you may BE SOO CALLED “BOOK SMART” but your most certainly not wise. Jesus or GOD dont have to prove nothing to you mama…who are you to ask for such PROOF?? LMAO..The PROOF IS HUNNY…THAT YOU EXIST. and it wasnt because of NO STUPID BIG BANG OR THE FACT THAT YOU MAY HAVE DESCENDANT FROM MONKEYS. No MAN IS PERFECT..and thats the problem with any religion especially christianity. They expect there ppl to ABIDE BY THERE LAWS AND NOT OF GODS. Because then we would be allowed to make mistakes and live freely without limitations. God gave us that right. It is therefore up to us as HUMAN BEINGS to either choose the right path or the wrong path, but that doesnt mean as well that we are not open to mistakes…Our God is a forgiving God, its mainly about how we dust ourselves off after the mistakes we made…

@Rude Gyal…i feel for you mama..but then I dont. No wise man can debate with a fool because there is nothing a fool can learn from the wise but plenty a wise man can learn from a fool. One not to be like yourself and two what not to apply to my life and how not to act or think.

Now ALSO if your TRULY BOOK SMART…you would know as well AFRICANS DID WORSHIP GOD AND JESUS CHRIST ALONE BUT WHEN THEY WERE BROUGHT HERE TO AMERICA THEY WHERE INTRODUCE TO CHRISTIANITY and other religions…unfortunately most of our anscestors were not intellectual enough to realize that it was a TRICK into falling into man made religigons that I honestly believe that are not truly of God.

@OK

I couldnt have said it any better.

I am good girl…about to hit this happy hour…officially off work right now…!!

@Jewel…

quick question so Jesus came way after Noahs Ark and Noah’s family spread all over right?

Was every human being that ever existed at that just sitting right there in Africa?

If so Jesus went and spread the word amongst everyone, right? wrong…and so is other parts of the Bible…however I think it does hold some truth in the instructions…not so much the stories…

ALL I ASK IS FOR PEOPLE TO CHECK OUT ONE WEBSITE AND GO FROM THERE…

divine evidence dot com

Be careful with what you read tho, I would hate to leave you responsible with what you heard and you chose otherwise…lol…just kidding…peace & blessings!

Jewel

@Queen T
@Speaking the Truth…

I’m with yall. Half of these people should listen to the first song on the record which “What We Talkin Bout”. I love when he says “I cant base what I’m gone be off of what everybody isn’t”. You can lead a horse to the water but you cant make it drink. I honestly think he is telling ppl how to make it, but it is up to them. This is in ALL aspects of life. These ppl on here crucifying him as if they saw him saluting Satan, Or a secret society came to them personally and asked them to join, remind me of this skit I saw that showed ppl accusing this woman to be a witch. LOL They were saying she looked like a witch, but they were the ones who put the false nose on her and the hat and the wart. LOL And when the King decided she wasn’t a witch they yelled “Well burn her anyways!!!”. Similar to the ppl killing Jesus b/c he was speaking “blasphemies”. When all he was doing was speaking the truth. I always wonder how many ppl today would’ve actually recognized Jesus for who he was, because they denounced him and killed him based on the religious teachings of their time.
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Hold up jewel. So you compare this RAPPER/ex crack dealer to Jesus???????

Christians believe jesus will return lol
if jesus returns he’ll have to pay taxes like the rest of us!

@ Jewel

Talk about flawed analogy!

I SUGGEST ALL YALL LOOK UP AGENDA 21 AND RFID CHIP ON YOUTUBE, THEN STUDY ON THE END TIME PROPHESIES IN THE BIBLE(THE LIVING WORD OF GOD!!!) AND REALIZE THAT GOD IS REAL AND JESUS IS COMING SOON!!! ANYONE ON HERE WHO DOESNT BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE OR GOD, TELL ME HOW THE WORD WHICH WAS WRITTEN OVER 2000 YEARS AGO IS LINING UP EXACTLY WITH WHATS GOING ON NOW AND IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE. I URGE NON BELIEVERS TO WAKE UP!!! STOP BEING CAUGHT UP IN THE MATRIX OF “LIFE” AND ALLOW YOUR EYES TO BE OPENED!! ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AND GET IT TOGETHER!!

Every knee of every creature in all creation shall bow before Jesus one day, and every tongue confess that He is the Lord of All. phillipians 2:8-10

@ Chinese ChickenWings

Sorry, you are not funny.

Life starts when church ends, as in people go back to doing what they’ve been doing after they leave church (hipocrits)

OR HOW BOUT RIGHT BEFORE YOU GET IN A ACCIDENT YOU SCREAM “JESUS” YOU DON’T SCREAM ALLAH OR BUDDAH

A million dollars to whomever can *PROVE* (without a shadow of doubt) that god exists.

Black people are perhaps the most religious people in the US. We’re also DEAD LAST in terms of progress. The more that we rely on intangible, obscure concepts like prayer, the farther we’ll be left behind. Stop being superstitious and start being smart and PRACTICAL!

But whatever…I’ve got mine! You get yours however you see fit…

I don’t see the big deal. I live in the heart of the Bible Belt and hearing aboout the Bible all the time gets old. If you don’t believe in it oh well, that is your right, right?

I wonder how many times blind has been used in this post.

Leave jay-z alone!!! I love him toooo death!! he’s the greatest.

And please drop beyonce!!! Bey bey will never give you babies!!

I dont understand why Christians get angry at people who go against what they believe in. Isn’t that non-Christian to judge others?? (shrugging)

@Black is Glamour

I couldnt agree with you more about religion. Lauryn Hill sang on her Unplugged special, “The only way to know, is to walk, then learn, then grow”. How do you learn if you dont make mistakes. This is why Beyonce poses as a Pheonix. The Pheonix is known to rise again after defeat. I was reading a rastafarian website and they were stating what I have been learning. Religions like Christianity are out of balance. For one they deny the feminine aspect of God. Jews acknowledge this. They make people supress they inner selves while all the while this only strengthens the darkness within. You must face the darkness within to overcome it. That’s why you have these priests taking a vow of celibacy and then molesting little boys because of their supressed desires.

@The Frewsh Prince

You look like a greasy book worm! Sorry but it is true.

I respect what Jay Z has achieved in his fields of endavours, but he need to realise and quick, that Jesus is not Nas, T-Pain or Jim Jones he can beef with.The man upstairs can within a blink crush him back to reality. Hope he has asked him for forgiveness before its too late for him.

oh, by the way, pray to jay and his bey and see will your prayers get answered…..Yall people (non-believers of CHRIST) are the reason our kids aren’t safe in this world anymore

@Black is Glamour

I’m no Christian but I am spiritual…I feel there is a higher force but I don’t pray thru His Son to connect with Him…Or It…sometimes I don’t put a gender to it either…

However, Jesus was the only argument…sorta relating to the topic and I have stated my opinions accordingly…

Now these Africans who worshiped Jesus…what was the name they called him in the original language? Were they onboard Amistad? I’m sorry sis but denied…show me an african in the 1600s or 1700s that believed in Jesus Christ…look I still make reference because I still read the Bible, especially Isaiah 54:17…No weapon formed against me shall prosper…

Look it’s no coincidence that religions have existed here or there…it was a new form of government…and Jesus shouldn’t mind if you read an extra book in addition to the Bible!!!

Try it for free…or your money back!!!

Why does he need to explain this? You either get it or you don’t. That is your loss. Religion is the best weapon of mass destruction. It has destroyed cultures and destinies. However that is my take on it, I am not going to speak for Jay-z.

My last words…

Research is key (yes true rude gyal)…but you must look within yourself and walk your own path to spirituality. You can research to the ends of the earth, battles, who did what when…all well and good.

But if you can’t live one with your faith, love, life, and sorrow – then understand what got you through those elements of your own journey how can you lend counsel to others.

Many people live vicariously through other lives and when its time to live their own…they wonder why “life” is so hard.

Those who rely on “prayer” simply don’t know how to think for themselves–they’re mentally weak. They haven’t been raised to become problem solvers. Shame on their parents….

IT’S A METAPHORE…IF YOU’RE A TRUE FAN OF HIPHOP YOU SHOULD LEARN THE CRAFT AND UNDERSTAND THE SLANG…IT’S A METAPHORE! YOU CAN’T SIMPLIFY EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME FOR SLOW PEOPLE…NO OFFENSE.

@ Oshie Feels Grrreeeeaaattt!!

lol. Those are geek glasses(don’t wear them in real life). I’m straight ma.

@ SAUCE

THANK YOU….EXACTLY!!!!

@follow j & bey

non-believers of CHRIST are the reason the world isn’t safe???

Um Ghandi wasn’t Christian, Neither coutless others who have done great deeds…

Yoga, meditation, that works just like religion all I’m saying is that the power may not be in one whom you’ve NEVER EVER EVER MET, but it’s in YOU YOURSELF.

That’s why you can witness miracles and healings regardless of beliefs…because the Universe isn’t prejudice…

Have you seen the size of some of those stars compared to our Sun??? Do you really know how many solar systems are out there…One Book is the answer though…written by…a group of people King James appointed…it’s like your Constitution per se…lol

Its just like time for him to do the bidding of his master Lucifer…he aint giving out fame and fortune for nothing….He already sold his soul and turned out Beyonce, Rihanna, and Kanye now all he got to do is turn ya’ll which he’s doing in order not to have ot give up his own children to the fallen one. Thats the contract that they sign in their own blood.

those of you worried about what the next man is doing isnt spending enough time on yourself.

@The Fwesh Pwince

No your comprehenshion skills are flawed. What I am saying is, YOU have never personally spoken to Jay-Z, YOU have NEVER personally been invited to join a secret fraternity, YOU have NEVER personally seen Jay-Z saluting Satan, so how could you feel comfortable calling that man a devil worshipper out of your mouth? “Thou shall not bear false witness”, meaning speak what you KNOW. So yes, I am making a parallel connection to Jesus and Jay-Z in the sense that Jesus’ own ppl killed him based on their beliefs, and they called him all kind of names because they didnt understand him, nor did they want to.

Beyonce and jayz are devil and money worshipers.
two devils that will die in hell.

I think the only true religion is Pentecostal Snake handling. I want to be a snake handler.
The rest of you are heathens…Where are all the snakes at?

he old! looking like a camel! he like rocky balin hip hop! joe camel have to drop the mic and retire!

@Speaking the truth

Cool, I can agree with that…it is your own journey and not meant for me to force it on you like the Bible Thumpers and Muslims do me…lol…

You’re right…and plus a lot is being revealed bringing forth “revelation” of a lot of corruption and so forth so if anything we will for sure all know the truth eventually.

dont care what u say @fwesh primce that was funny!

u lol when u read it just be real

This isn’t surprising at all. The man calls himself Jay-hova. I mean, c’mon…

@Speaking the Truth

You’re a woman after my own heart.

Jay_Z is a MUSLIM ok, so he views Christ via the veil of his islamic faith.

Every knee of every creature in all creation shall bow before Jesus one day, and every tongue confess that He is the Lord of All. phillipians 2:8-10

@Follow
Preach! They Call Christians believers crazy, but they actually believe the Big Bang Theory…Which by the way has never been scientifically proven. So they believe human life came about from an explosion(LOL)..but we’re crazy. by the way Hollywood is nothing but the Devil’s playground and Jay can keep spittin his antichrist lyrics but nothing will ever turn my heart and against JESUS. I’ll pray for all of you non-believers cuz thats all I can do.

@Aik

Hova is a heathen?!!

WTF

@ Jewel
No you have these priest molesting little boys because in order to make to the upper levels of the luciferian religion one must be an ordained catholic priest. And one must enter into the eye of horus (its symbolized by the pyramid with the eye which jay lies and says is the rock). The literal eye of horus is a little bays rectum in their faith. After reaching that level they are know able to speak one on one with the fallen angels of lucifer.

I understand what he’s saying. I’ve heard sistas screamin in church, then cussing kids out in the church parking lot when it’s over = /

I didn’t mention anything about a Big Bang so please no subliminal shots throwing lol

but it does make a good discussion…another session tho…one seminar at a time

I’m no Christian but I am spiritual…I feel there is a higher force but I don’t pray thru His Son to connect with Him…Or It…sometimes I don’t put a gender to it either…

However, Jesus was the only argument…sorta relating to the topic and I have stated my opinions accordingly…

Now these Africans who worshiped Jesus…what was the name they called him in the original language? Were they onboard Amistad? I’m sorry sis but denied…show me an african in the 1600s or 1700s that believed in Jesus Christ…look I still make reference because I still read the Bible, especially Isaiah 54:17…No weapon formed against me shall prosper…

Look it’s no coincidence that religions have existed here or there…it was a new form of government…and Jesus shouldn’t mind if you read an extra book in addition to the Bible!!!

Try it for free…or your money back!!!
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HUN…PLENTY OF AFRICANS BELIEVED IN JESUS AND GOD HIMSELF BACK IN THE 1600S….what is wrong with you mama??? The difference is They gave worship mainly to God himself, but the issue of it all is rather we speak through Christ alone or to God the point is you should believe in BOTH as one. To speak to God true enough you should most certainly speak through Christ…and if you believer perhaps that there is a God and his son is our savior then you shouldnt even be up on here trying to debate with those that do..rather there christians or jehovahs witnesses or whatever the fact is if there defending God because they love and give worship to him then that should be all that matters.

Jay-z may have been making a point to some extent about whatever it was or is he was trying to get across but the FACT is you should never use Jesus name in vain…especially in a rap and especially if your already claimin yourself as A GOD.

So my thing is hun…Im smart indeed but I choose WISDOM over INTELLECT ANYDAY…wisdom comes waaaay b4 intellect. I read what I like and what I choose….you talking to me about the 1600s and the past and so forth has nothing to do with today or the influence upon believing in the fact that GOD EXIST AND THROUGH CHRIST we owe worship.

How my anscestors gave worship THEN has nothing to do with NOW. because all that matters to me is, that they believed.

funny how a white man can be an athiest but its a problem if a blk man is one? im understanding alot from bloggies. bill maher is a king of atheism and christians still love him* his azz lucky he’s white

@Whattha…

dang…I haven’t researched that…but it sounds ill…give me something to read…

book?
site?
magazine…lol…I like pictures

@ Chinese ChickenWings

Whatever you say.

I DONT WANNA HAVE SOMEBODY PRAYING FOR ME THAT NEEDS MORE PRAYER THAN I DO AND THEY CLAIM 2 BE SAVED

@whatever

Shut up, you ain’t got a million dollars if somebody was able to prove it.

I’ll give you a dollar if you prove God doesn’t exist.

@Black is Glamour

cool…I just don’t think there really is or was a Jesus…my research still doesn’t mention his name…freakin blaspheming books…lol…

to each it’s own I’m glad you’re wise and intelligent…I could tell

Was that a toot toot or a beep beep…lol…jah bless sis, you’re definitely more enlightened than some…

@Jewel…Thats whats good mama. spread the knowledge. but never put down anyone. just rise above it…give knowledge to those that are thirsty.

@ DIVAalldai:
“The fact is that God helps those who help themselves and really that is all Jigga was trying to say”
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lol.

WOW!! People sound dead as hell mentally in here. Before 6,000 years ago, there was no mention of a “Jesus.” Hell, there wasn’t even a letter “J”

Those of you waiting on this Jesus, will be sadly disappointed once you find out it was a hoax. Do some real research, because clearly you’re still reading it and taking it literally.

21st century human beings…

Sporting 1st century Psychological technologies…

Is it possible and rational that human beings can mature and evolve psychologically and ‘spiritually’?

Should we even send our children to school, or should we educate them through hand-me-down, old-time stories that our grandparents told us?

Somebody answer this:

Are we not more advanced than our great-grandparents, technologically and ‘mentally’?

Being a convert of Christianity, Islam, and many other monotheistic religions, is a sign of an immature, undeveloped mind.

Yes, I want to shock you! Question yourself! Are we going to be narrow-minded, CONCEPT WORSHIPPING, waiting-for-the-world-to-end-while-we-could-be-feeding-the-hungry, pacified-by-faith, evidence denying fools, all of our lives?

Blind belief is a curable MENTAL DISORDER (how many of us held the firm belief that Santa was a ‘real’ entity before we took action and purged the psychosis from our psyche, without the assistance of a Psychiatrist or drugs?)

Anybody feel me on this?

@Black is Glamour

You are so right. That took me completely out of character. There goes that ego creeping back in. So I’ll fight the good fight until the end and keep my ego in check. Usually I’m the peacemaking freak on these posts, it just got me a lil upset when i knew what I was saying and I felt someone was trying to twist it. Thank you for the correction…I know it’s all in Love.

@Quantum

YES SIR!!!

JESUS Is Real. HE is the way the truth and the light. No one can come to GOD except through JESUS. He’s the only was (ONLY WAY) to eternal life.

@DIVA all dai

God helps those who helps themselves??? That conflicts with scripture if you’re a believer of Christ…

But lil sis you’re on the right track, help yourself because if you help your pastor get a Bentley he won’t be able to guide you to Heaven or Hell.

@MoneyMagnet

Those of us who wait on Jesus will be rewarded, not disappointed. If you had a personal relationship with him, you would be reassured, but since you don’t please do not speak for those who DO believe and those who want to find out for themselves…

We who believe are not mentally dead, but alive and free. Perhaps you should take your own advice and research the truth for yourself. I speak from personal experience .

@Rude Gyal

I hope you didn’t take what Whattha said seriously. PLEASE tell me you didn’t. lol

i agree with what he said when someone has a gun in your face jesus is not going to come down and save you

BOY WE GOT SOME REAL LOST FOLKS ON HERE! AND WHERE IS THAT RUBBISH COMIN FROM TALKIN BOUT THEY DONT PUT A GENDER TO GOD? OR JESUS? THE DEVIL IS SOO BUSY ITS A SHAME. SOME PEOPLE NOT GON REALIZE HOW WRONG THEY ARE TILL THEY HAVE ACCEPTED THE MARK OF THE BEAST(THE CHIP)AND THEY DAMNED TO HELL FOR ETERNITY. IM NOT MAD AT ANYONE WHO DOESNT BELIEVE IN CHRIST OR GOD, I FEEL SOO MUCH COMPASSION FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU DONT EVEN REALIZE THAT YOU’RE HEADED FOR HELL!! THE BIBLE TALKS ABOUT IN THE LAST DAYS HOW PEOPLE WILL RATHER BELIEVE LIES THAN THE TRUTH, AND HOW BELIEVERS WILL BE PERSECUTED FOR CHRIST’S NAME SAKE. TO ALL THE TRUE BELIEVERS: WE HAVE A LOT MORE TO ENDURE THAN JUST THE LOST SOULS WHO CLAIM WE’RE CRAZY AND TRY TO TALK AGAINST WHAT WE KNOW TO BE TRUE, WE WILL BE PERSECUTED UNTO DEATH IN TRIBULATION TIMES! BUT GUESS WHAT? FOR US SUFFERING WITH CHRIST WE WILL REIGN WITH HIM!! AND ALL WHO DO NOT ACCEPT HIM BEFORE ITS TOO LATE WILL BURN IN HELL WITH THEIR FATHER THE DEVIL!!! THERE IS NO OTHER WAY TO GET TO HEAVEN BESIDES AN ACCEPTANCE OF CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOR, YOU CANT EVEN PRAY TO OUR HEAVENLY FATHER IF YOU HAVENT ACCEPTED CHRIST! CAUSE HE WONT HEAR YOU!! ITS SAD TO SAY SOME PEOPLE LOVE THIS LIFE SOO MUCH AND DONT REALIZE HOW SOON IT COMES TO AN END!! THE BIBLE SAYS “WHAT DOES IT PROFIT MAN TO GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSE HIS SOUL??” NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN HAVING YOUR LIFE RIGHT WITH GOD!!!

@Rude Gyal…..thanks mama Lol girl you crazy.

I will tell you this God and Jesus are very pleased that this dialogue in ongoing becuz they know the ones they need to reach in order to be saved at least they will try it’s up to those who need to believe in them both to believe…The way some of you think confirms Armagaeddon is near…WOW!

We talked about Jay-Z in bible study at church a long time ago, I was probably in 9th. I didnt really like his music. But the preacher was talking about his lyrics, and how he calls himself Hova, like Jehova, like God. I had never put 2 and 3 together before that. So these lyrics do not surprise me. I have been avoiding his music since then. But that;s hipocritical of me cuz I listen to all the rest of it. So yea, I’m just spouting off at the mouth. I’m coming off this rap music one day. One day, I’ll just take slow…

@Jewel

I don’t know if I did or didn’t believe him…I mean the butthole took it to another level…lol…like damn…

I just think all of this conspiracy nonsense is getting out of hand. When will ppl learn, you can make a case out of literally ANYTHING. You can make ANYTHING make sense. Now I’ve heard ppl saying Kandi sacrificed her ex-fiance for baphomat,and J-hud sacrificed her family and all kind of nonsense. PPl talk about this man as if he is evil and has no heart. I honestly cant believe this man cares nothing for humanity or betteryet the ppl that are from where he is from. This man has family members, a Mother, sister, cousin and others that he love, why do yall think he would put them in harms way for his own gain? I a lot ppl just WANT him to be that person.

@DIVA all dai

God helps those who helps themselves??? That conflicts with scripture if you’re a believer of Christ…

But lil sis you’re on the right track, help yourself because if you help your pastor get a Bentley he won’t be able to guide you to Heaven or Hell.
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@Rude Gyal, LMAO…chile….now you talkin my talk. PPl dont realize that….smh.

I”m gonna pray for all you folks who just don’t get it, and by the Grace of God,someday you will.

AND SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE THE WRONG OUTLOOK ON CHRIST, EVERYONE WHO GOES TO CHURCH IS NOT APART OF A MONEY MAKING SCHEME, GRANTED THERE IS AN ABUNDANCE OF THEM, BUT NOT EVERY CHURCH! AND WHOEVER SAID WHEN A GUN IS IN YOUR FACE JESUS NOT GON SAVE YOU, GUESS WHAT? WHEN THE GOV IS FORCING ALL YOU WHO DONT BELIEVE TO GET A MICROCHIP PLANTED IN YOU OR YOU CANT BUY SELL OR TRADE AND YOU GET IT YOU GOIN TO HELL! WHEN THEY COME AT ME WITH IT IMA TELL EM NO. YEA THEY GON KILL ME BUT GUESS WHAT, JESUS WILL BE SAVING ME, SAVING ME FROM ETERNAL DAMNATION BECAUSE I TRUST IN THE PROMISE OF HIS WORD!!

I just think all of this conspiracy nonsense is getting out of hand. When will ppl learn, you can make a case out of literally ANYTHING. You can make ANYTHING make sense. Now I’ve heard ppl saying Kandi sacrificed her ex-fiance for baphomat,and J-hud sacrificed her family and all kind of nonsense
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@Jewel…I thought that was so crazy when I read that…thank GOD I dont believe in such foolishnesses unless I heard it from the horses mouth itself.

Jesus said in the Bible, “They will hate you, for my namesake.” I can deal with it. People think people hate on people because they rich.
Not so… people hate the ones who believe in Jesus Christ. You see no one is really hating on people who worship money, but they hate on people that worship Christ.

@ THE HATERS HATER

YOUR NAME SAYS EVERYTHING ABOUT YOU…WHAT A DUMB, DEMONIC, EVIL THING TO CALL YOURSELF, AND THEN TO SAY WHAT YOU SAID!….GODS IS SO GOOD CAUSE HE IS STILL ALLOWING YOU GRACE AND MERCY TO BE ON THIS EARTH!!! ONE DAY YOU WILL BOW DOWN AND CONFESS, JESUS IS LORD!!

@Not blinded at all

Actually hun, God has no gender. He made THEM male and female in His image. You have to understand that we as humans at this level need language to communicate. The problem is, as soon as we communicate something in language of anyform for that matter, we put it into a box. So in order to express what we call God we had put it in terms we could understand. Some ppl view God as a woman. Creation doesn’t come from one side. Everything in the physical mirrors the spiritual. YOu cant make a baby with just a man or with just a woman, u need both. So if God was a human he would be (dare I say) androgyenous. But He isn’t human, He is pure spirit.

It’s funny how people try to blame Katrina on God and 911 on God. This nation has turned it’s back on God. I do not blame God for moving his hand of protection and allowing things to happen. And it’s this global blasphmey that will meet its doom. REPENT!!!! FOR THE KINGDOM IS NEAR!!!! THE BIBLE IS COMING TO PAST ONLY A FEW MORE PROPHECIES LEFT TO FILL!! TURN BACK TO GOD AMERICA! TURN BACK TO GOD!

CANTRIA

couldnt have said it better my sister, i meant to include that earlier! the world loves the world, they cling to evil and despise good! but praise GOD he brought us out in time

jewel,

NOT interested, the trinity is clear as day: the FATHER, the SON, and the HOLY GHOST!!! get outta hear with that mess you tryna spread! cuz a true believer aint gonna buy it.

@Jewel

People conspire against others every single day, and the ones that mostly do it are the powerful and wealthy. You even see conspiracies in the hood, a gang plans to commit a drive by at 8pm on their enemy… thats a conspiracy. People sacrifice their own family members everyday. Dont you hear stories of women killing their kids because “God” told them to? or Men killing their family for no reason? It happens and celebs are not exempt. You can tell Jay Z cares nothing for humanity by the way he brags about selling drugs to black people, or the lyrics he still raps about. Caring for humanity is providing people an avenue of love peace and happiness. jay Z doesnt rap about that stuff only about what he has, his friends, etc..

If you listen to the entire verse it reads..

“good girls gone bad, the city’s filled with them,
Mommy took a bus trip and now she got her bust out,
everybody ride her, just like a bus route,
Hail Mary to the city your a Virgin,
and Jesus can’t save you life starts when the church ends,
came here for school, graduated to the high life,
ball players, rap stars, addicted to the limelight,
MDMA got you feeling like a champion,
the city never sleeps better slip you a Ambien”

Basicly he’s talking about the women who come to new york with aspirations and dreams of becoming famous, rich, etc…who resort to prostituting themselves to get the materialistic riches they once dreamed for.

Hence “Hail Mary to the city your a Virgin,
and Jesus can’t save you life starts when the church ends”

Because the city lifestyle ate her alive.

oh heck naw, jewel did you just imply that GOD would have to be male and female if anything? oh you are far more off than i percieved you to be! thats another trick the devil has used to keep people lost, you think YOU can come to your own conclusions about who GOD is and what YOU think is right. it says in proverbs ” there is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is DEATH!” the truth about GOD is in the WORD!! its not for you to conjure up and rationalize to make you feel better

@Not Blinded at All

Please show me a bible verse where there is the word trinity please.
I love your faith but have you ever asked yourself, “What is the Holy Spirit?” I’m just sayin…but I will say no more.

I feel sorry for all of you who don’t believe in God. I’d rather believe in God and there be an after life, than live a life not believing and there be a God and then rote in hell. I fell sorry for those who say God can’t and haven’t done anything for them. It’s by his grace you are all still living. Yes, Jay-Z need to explain. Because some of you aparently think its okay to not believe. God have mercy on your souls, because most of you seem filled w/ ignorance. Life can’t be that bad for you to say God can’t and hasn’t do s*** for you. Some people may have money and riches but death has no name and has no price.

@Not blinded At all

I’m sorry you feel so strongly against me. I said I was done with you and I mean it. Truth does not need to defend itself. Even my own Pastor knows got a spirit comprised of both feminine and masculine qualities. Please educate yourself. “In all thy getting, get understanding” Thats All and Goodnite.

if you read ACTS you will read about the HOLY SPIRIT jewel, you obviously aint read the bible!!! the holy spirit resides in every truly saved believer! it guides you and convicts you when wrong! i dont have to ask what is the holy spirit! it resides in ME and every other TRUE believer! you love my faith??? YOU NEED TO GET SOME baby girl! faith in CHRIST!!

Oops I meant *God is a spirit…*

if your pastor implies anything that you speak of, i would be inclined to call him/her a FALSE PROPHET!!

@Not Blinded

There is no need to yell. Yelling does not give you authority, it only hurts your own health.

Jesus can’t save you…ultimately you have to save yourself…..Jesus alyed down the rules/commandments….it’s up to us to follow so that we can save ourselves in order to go to Heaven…..Jesus already did his part….come on people use your common sense.

@ jewel

not yelling, jus putting emphasis

@not blinded at all

jewel is your sister in christ or in society.

I come in peace and so should you my dear brother…if you really care and really want to enlighten you must always make your speech with Grace…

YOUR BIBLE READS Colssians 4:6

Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.

@ Jewel
please googel HOLY SPIRIT.
Holy Ghost: the third person in the Trinity; Jesus promised the Apostles that he would send the Holy Spirit after his Crucifixion and Resurrection …

rude gyal

i think people take the CAPS the wrong way, thats not yelling, im emphasising on what im saying. but i do feel where you are coming from, preciate it

@Not Blinded At All

Only because you’re the young man I went there…regardless of faith you’ll have to be a leader in some form and I want you to be the best damn leader you can be…lol…even if I don’t believe the trinity…just UNITY…

In the belief of many Christians, one of the three persons in the one God, along with the Father and the Son (Jesus is the Son); the Holy Spirit is also called the Holy Ghost. Jesus promised the Apostles that he would send the Holy Spirit after his Crucifixion and Resurrection. The Spirit came to the disciples of Jesus on Pentecost.

@Slim

I KNOW the Holy Spirit, it is my only true friend. When I said that to Not Blinded I said it for him to think about what the Holy Spirit actually is. But I will leave that for others to do their own homework

@ Not Blinded

Yes Caps is emphasis but exclaimation marks equates yelling.

@ Jewel
sorry, misunderstood you.

@Jewel

I understood the androgyneous comment for many reasons above one.

JAYZ IS WAK ANYWAYSS. his raps will be forgotten in a matter of years, like. even shakira is better than him. so everything hes says basically is garbage.
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Or should I say the GENDER of the Holy Spirit. Please learn to refer the Hebrew mean of certain words for THAT holds the true meaning of the scriptures.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Spirit

jewel

how you claimin the holy spirit is you r only friend yet, you try to claim that god is man and woman????? please explain this to me if you could, never once in the bible has GOD been referenced as a woman, only as THE FATHER,or in other ways suggesting GOD as a HE. where? do you get this crazy logic my sister? and you said your pastor believes this??? wow

I think it okay for a person not to be familiar with GOD’s teachings because some have not been exposed, they dont trust what they cant see, or for whatever reason. My concern is people following others and not being aware what that person believes in. Its important to know because energy attaches itself to whatever it can, like a possession. Have you ever been around someone with a bad attitude and you mirrored them and your attitude changed? Have you ever listened to rap music and felt angry? have you ever listened to pop music and felt happy? All this stuff is energy transferring onto you, whatever enters our mind/body stays their thats why entertainment is called entertainment (enter contain me). So when people say “its just entertainment” that is false, nothing is ever just anything…. everything has a purpose whether its to help us or destroy us.

jesus is the way the truth and the light and for all those who dont believe thats yall as for me and my house we will serve the lord jesus is real

Stop acting like what he said isnt true….

Personally if you got god in your life you know what this means. If you dont know what it means then you abviously dont…. so no need to elaborate his meanings.. its clearly read..Personally for me the devil has already lost the final battle. God all the way.

blk ppl are idiots

jewel

you soo smart till its actually a bad thing for you, you ‘re trying to be intellectual in a situation where its not needed

2 Corinthians 6:14
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness?

Matthew 7:21-23
“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

SATAN=BALANCE ALSO DESCRIBED BY GOD AS “THE SYSTEM OF THINGS”

he’s not dissing church he basically talking to the hipocrits that think just because they go to church they can leave church and start acting a fool again. church is meant to give you some guidance and you have to come with the follow through.

@Not blinded

I’ve never accredited myself with being smart, so thank you. I have no need for intellect, it only gets in the way, God speaks to my heart, not my head. And I’m a woman so actually, I’m naturally inclined to think with my heart and intuition which goes against all logic and intellect. This is a spiritual gift to all of us LADIES. LOL

@FYI

Sorry I’m confused, I dont get what you mean. Please elaborate for me hun. Thanks.

I HAVE BEEN A BIG FAN OF JAY-Z AND BEYONCE, I THINK BEYONCE BELIEVES IN GOD BUT DOES JAY-Z? I WISH WE KNEW THIS ANSWER SO I CAN FEEL OKAY TO LISTEN TO HIS MUSIC AND BUY HIS MUSIC, ALL I CAN SAY IS WE SHOULD ALL PRAY THAT HE BELIEVES AND TURNS HIS LIFE TOWARD THE LORD! AMEN!

@FYI

Just realized I wasn’t clear on what i wanted you to elaborate on. The last comment you made about Satan=….

@JEWEL WHAT PART DON’T YOU UNDERSTAND?

@FYI

Well, what you mean by that statement. Are you saying that balance is “wrong”? Are you saying Satan represents the balance of total good? I just wanted clarification on the point you are trying to convey.

@JEWEL I DON’T HAVE TIME TO FIND IT IN MY BIBLE RIGHT NOW BUT IT’S LIKE THE YING AND THE YANG.BASICALLY GOD ACCEPTED SATANS CHALLANGE GOD ULTIMATE PROMISE IS EVERLASTING LIFE IN A PERFECT WORLD.IN MY PERSONAL OPINION GOD GOT BOARD “THE SYSTEM OF THINGS” THINK ABOUT IT FOR EXA WHEN SOMEONE IS BORN SOMEONE HAS TO LEAVE OR OUR WORLD WOULD BE OVER POPULATED THATS JUST ONE EXAMPLE.SO IN A MATHMETICALY WAY “THE SYSTEM OF THING”CREATE BALANCE IN ALL ASPECT OF LIFE I SEE GOD AS A PURE GENIUS. AFTER IT’S ALL SAID AND DONE GOD WILL SHOW SATAN/THE OPPOSER WHO IS BOSS GOD WANTS US TO SEEK HIM sorry ms spells

Jay, you sound depressed. Whenever we see you, you look as if you are not happy or satisfied and now it appears to be coming out in your lyrics. Then again you could be saying things like that to bring attention to your CD.

What HOV is saying is that “life begins” when you stop putting your faith in external forces, beliefs and people. The Church puts value into Jesus a “MAN”, who is no different than any of us. GOD is our only “force” to be reckoned with and GOD is within us all. Jesus, Buddah, Allah…whatever you wish to describe GOD’s deity as was a MAN in “perfection” we ALL have this ability. We are all GOD-LIKE. not be be mistaken with “GOD”. So when Jay call’s himself HOVA he is refering to the GOD within him. When you live in absolute faith devoid of fear you are on the path of being within your divine state…or being “A GOD”.

As much as I love Jay’s music, I have questioned his actions because sometimes he can be mean spirited and I have seen it for myself and let’s not forget the girl he mugged in the head…I have observed the way he does things as far as his shows and just some of his actions and limited words when he’s talking and he just doesn’t have that reverence towards Jesus…I can make up something to justify his comments like awwwhh he just – he just means….? He just needs to explain his self

@FYI

Thank You!!!!:-) It’s just what I was thinking not too long ago. I was actually in math class one time perplexed as I had a revelation about how math applies to Life itself. But thanks for taking the time out to explain. I was wondering if you were saying that balance is a bad thing. I would love for it to be “alllll goood”lol. In my world tho, it is all good. All things work for the good in my life because I love Him and knows he has a plan.

FORGET THAT PUT HIS WIFE BEYONCE ON BLAST TOO POST THE PICTURE OF HER WEARING THAT BOPOHMET DEVIL QUESTION HER ASS.

jay-z shouldn’t refer to him self as hov.
he should chill out w/ that.

THE BIBLE QUOTES SPECIFICALY JEHOVA/GOD IS A PERSONAL NAME ONLY FOR GOD HIMSELF SO I DON’T THINK HE LIKES JAY Z NAME.

@fyi
totally agree w/ you…

Wow, he is simply talking about it from the perspective of the city, not his own. “Hail Mary, TO THE CITY Youre a virgin….”

He is trying to say the city is brutal and athiestic in the way it can treat people. He is not spitting his own personal views on religion. Its just a way for him to express that NYC isn’t the best place in the world some time and has a mind of its own.

GOD SENT JESUS TO SHOW US THAT HE WOULD NOT PUT US THROUGH SOMETHING HE WOULDN’T PUT HIS OWN SON THROUGH.HE SENT JESUS TO SHOW US HIS SON WILL LIVE AND DIE LIKE THE REST OF US BUT IF WE CHOOSE GOD WE WILL HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE.

Some real unbelievers in here. Its sad to see so many people don’t believe there is a GOD!!.For the ones who believe there is a GOD ITS HARD TO ARGUE WITH PEOPLE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE IN GOD BECAUSE THEY WILL NEVER KNOW AND UNDERSTAND Who he is and what he can really do. JESUS CHRIST EXISTS.
UNBELIEVERS THEIR HEARTS IS TO HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS SOMETHING BIGGER THAN US and they WILL CONTINUE TO ONLY LOOK AT THE SURFACE OF LIFE AND NOT THE DEPTH OF IT ALL.
Its hard to explain to people who do not believe in GOD because its a spiritual connection with JESUS CHRIST THAT ONLY A BELIEVE WILL KNOW AND UNDERSTAND.
I BELIEVE WE ARE AT THE END OF TIMES AND WE WILL ALL KNOW GOD IS REAL!! WE NEED TO WAKE UP BECAUSE HE IS COMING SOON. MANY OF YOU WILL OBVIOUSLY DISAGREE WITH ME BUT THE ONES WHO BELIEVE… KNOWS WHAT TIME IT IS! WE HAVE BEEN WARNED. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT IT’S OBVIOUSLY YOUR CHOICE.

THE SCRIPTURES IN THE BIBLE ARE ALLEGORICAL, NOT LITERAL. THE BIBLE IS AN ASTROLOGICAL BOOK DESIGNED TO TEACH THE LAWS OF NATURE(DIVINE LAWS). THAT’S IT. IF YOU TAKE IT LITERALLY YOU MIGHT AS WELL BELIEVE IN SANTA CLAUS WHICH IS ACTUALLY REMNANT OF SATAN(THE DEVIL AKA THE DIVIDER). ALL THIS I LOVE JESUS TALK IS JUST TO KEEP YOUR WALLETS AND YOUR LEGS OPEN.

@MARKH320

WHAT????????

@Markh320

WELL SAID!!!!!! These fools, are too scared of “HELL”, to listen though!!!!!

@HI HATER

YOU NEED HELP!

easy answear Jay z is workin with demons and he is a Satanist, Just search for Jay Z Satanist on youtube

And check out the The Arrivals on youtube and Wakeup

Why does he need to explain the lyric? I’m a Christian but I don’t ever remember Jay serving the Lord. He’s an ex-drug dealer. He raps about girls and money….like most other rappers. I never thought he was high on Jesus in the first place so I need no explaination.

What needs explainations are when Whitney, Mary, R-Kelly et al were praising the Lord while doing drugs and peein on 15yr olds.

What can you expect from someone who calls him self Hova which is short for Jay-Hova.

@ Bongani
totally agree w/ you. i couldn’t have said it any better. i just feel sorry for some of the people that are weakminded and start to mock and curse God.

@Settin…chile…smh. ppl and there theorys man I tell ya….SWEETIE those books you read got you more brainwashed then a man addicted to crack. Sweetie first off AMEN does not refrence to what you just said….I believe if anything Religous ppl may have used the word AMEN from that particual reference, but AMEN is a Hebrew word that stems from the word aman, which means “to be faithful, support, or confirm.” The word “amen” actually means, “so be it,” or “truly. “Amen,” in both Testaments, could be employed as an affirmation of endorsement as a concluding pronouncement in connection with either praise or prayer. Note Psalm 41:13. “Blessed be Jehovah, the God of Israel, From everlasting and to everlasting. Amen, and Amen” (see also: Rom. 11:36).

Please come correct, and sweetie if Jesus Christ was non existent how would any HUMAN go forward in recieiving the forgiveness of GOD? Do you not realize how your speakin ill? Hun and also if ADAMN AND EVE did not exist please explain how sin entered this world?

God is OF COURSE NOT A MAN, but GOD came in this world as one, I believe honestly to not only spread the WORD AND HIS TEACHINGS but to also shed blood for his children (US) to be forgiven for the sins he knew this world was going to commit. The Bible of course was written by MEN….We as his children needed some form of guidance through his words on how to live our life. Yes we connect through God spiritually and through prayer but of course theres sooo much more to it then that. I can go forward on it but I’ll be all night and prob the rest of our lives because its just that deep.

Yes hun stay in those books, but keep that Bible on top.

@MARKH320 WELL SAID THE BIBLE WAS WROTE IN A WAY TO STILL BE RELEVENT TODAY.THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN OVER A PERIOD OF (THIS IS NOT AN ACURATE NUMBER BUT IT’S SOMETHING LIKE THIS)17 THOUSAND YEARS AND IT’S PREDICTIONS HAVE BEEN TESTED THROUGH OUT HISTORY.GOD TELL YOU TO HAVE FAITH IN THE BIBLE.THE BIBLE IS REAL.YOU NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THOSE MAN MADE RELEGIOUS HOLLIDAYS LIKE THE MONEY SCAM “CHRISTMAS” WHAT I HAVE LEARNED FROM ALL THIS IS IT IS BETTER TO BE SPIRITUAL THAN RELEGIOUS.I GREW UP IN A C.O.G.I.C. I WENT TO CATHOLIC SHCOOL, SOME OF MY FRIENDS WERE BAPTIST AND JEHOVA WIT SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE MY CONFUSION COMES IN SO WITH ALL THE HOCUS POCUS/HE THE DEVIL SHE THE DEVIL YOU COME ACROSS BLOGGING I LEARNED SOMETHING DON’T TRUST NO ONE BUT GOD RECONIZE THE ANTICS BEING PLACED UPON YOU BY MEDIA AND GOV DON’T JUST ACCEPT EVERYTHING.

@slim
what didn’t you understand. The word devil translated means divide. So there is no guy in the earth with a fork in his hand. The bible is astrological, but preachers try and scare you away from it because it puts them in between you and divine law aka the middle man. These pastors are actors and crooks, and nobody wants to feel like they’ve been fooled all their lives. Be ALone and you’ll soon find Christ. Be in a church and you’ll find yourself in a feel good session.

from the time i’ve been hearing that jesus is coming back even if he was riding a donkey he should have reach already

IN MY OPINION THIS IS MY DESCRIPTION OF GOD. IN SCIENCE CLASS THEY TELL YOU IF YOU LEAVE YOUR ROOM OR ANYTHING JUNKIE AND DUSTY FOR A PERIOD OF TIME (LIKE A MILLION YEARS LOL)A “STAR” WILL FORM AND I BELEIVE GOD WAS CREATED IN THAT MANNER. HE IS EVERYTHING IN ONE .JUST MY OPINION

@FYI
We see eye to eye, you are right on! One thing about this thread it has made some talk about the Lord and some went and read their bible. You are a good person FYI.

jay z has always had hate lyrics about god and jesus

and please god and jesus will save us wait and see
Its not their fault that katrina happened or anything else this is satans world stupid thats why it so much tragedy

@MARKH AND SLIM-THATS THE SAME THING I SAID GOD USED THE WORD DEVIL AS A TITLE “THE SLANDERER”SATAN “THE OPPOSER SOMEONE WHO SLANDER YOUR NAME OR GO AGAINST YOU.@HI HATER GOD IS A MAN OF HIS WORD AND IF HE SAY HE’S IS COMING BACK HE’S COMING BACK.THAT IS THE MAIN THING SCIENTIST HAVE PROVEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE BIBLE “GOD IS A MAN OF HIS WORD” AND THE PART I READ THE LAST DAYS DON’T MEAN HE’S COMING IT MEANS HE ALREADY HERE.

Not surprised by his lyrics. Lost folks say lost things. Unfortunately this lost person has a lot of weak followers who will believe anything he says. We’re so focused on the beats & his reputation that we don’t pay attention to the motivation behind the lyrics.
Jay-Z could say “I piss on all my fans” and believe me, this lost generation would respond by opening their mouths.
Parents, you should really think twice about who you allow your children to listen to.
Peers, if Jay-Z is the standard in intelligent thinking, we are doomed.
Saints, pray. Pray now. Then live in a way that this generation wouldn’t even think twice about believing such lyrics.
Jay-Z, read Romans 10: 9-11 and do what it says before it’s too late.

They say in the end that very few will make it into heaven, for they will find out too late and not believe. Judging from these posts, I can see that happening. I don’t understand how people, living in this world today, cannot have faith or how many people have abandoned their beliefs. No one said life would be easy, but I for one do not want to find out too late that I was wrong. These posts are really scary and it proves that Satanic people like Jay Z are having an effect. This is why he is all over the place now influencing the youth. The comment from Pooh was particularly offensive and ignorant. We have been trying to warn you for months about Jay Z, but you will see for yourself. Also get ready for the Swine Flu – when you are flat on your back, I bet you will know Jesus then.

JESUS IS A WHITE MANS CREATION….I LOVE HOW PEOPLE TALK ABOUT JESUS LIKE THEY SAW THAT NI$#$A SOMEWHERE..”JESUS IS REAL” AND THEN QUOTE SOME MAN MADE TEXT..300 YEAR AFTER THIS DUDE SUPPOSEDLY CAME ON THE SCENE.BESIDES THE BIBLE THERE IS NO SIGN OF JESUS…JUST POINT IT OUT…KEEP WAITIN FOR THAT DUDE TO SAVE YOU….LET ME KNOW HOW IT TURNS OUT.LOL

YOU JUST DONT GET IT….YOU ARE GOD…GOD IS WITHIN YOU….AND HE’S NOW A FU&KIN WHITE GUY !!!!! OR A MAN OR A WOMAN…GOD JUST IS…KEEP IT UP…YOU WILL STILL BE LOOKING FOR JESUS IN YOUR AFTER LIFE WHERE EVER THAT MAY BE.

@LS

Well Said ALSO!!!!!

These “Christians” are scared of going to ‘HELL”, so they shun anything that challenges their beliefs. All they are doing is setting themselves up for spiritual failure, didn’t the bible say:

“He that have an Ear, LET THEMM HEAR”!!!!!!

Jay z believes in the devil that is why he said it!

***correction***Build civilized societies, not America.

God loves everyone even Jay-Z. What most of yall need to understand is that church as most of us know it does not always equal God. A lot of these pastors walking around claiming to be God’s representative don’t know God’s heart. So please don’t bring church folk and how they act into this conversation. Second, Jay is dealing with some serious stuff, what is it? I can’t say for sure, but I pray that he finds Jesus Christ… not somebodies rules, regulations, fees, and guilt, but the REAL JESUS CHRIST. God bless you all.

@ uhh yeah ok

I FEEL YOU!!!!

The funny thing to me is that the people who have the least knowledge on the “Bible” are always the first to comment, and protect their “Faith”. It’s funny that “Christians” actually get mad when someone challenges their B.S. I’ve dealt with some who were ready to fight and kill. What ever happened to “turning the other cheek”? Or ‘Letting the Lord Fight your Battles”? HYPOCRITES I tell you!!!!

As a Christian I was taught to love all…that includes nonbelievers. I don’t judge because I was taught that was not my job. With that being said as a realist…I know I was born by myself and I will die by myself. I can tell u what I believe in, but I’m not going to whine cry nor will I die if you don’t follow me. I’m not going to heaven or hell worrying about Jay-Z. So he can do him and I’ll do me.

Well its obvious he doesn’t believe in religious things his nick name is JAY-HOVA. The man shouldn’t even mention Jesus if he doesn’t know what the hell he talking about because church won’t save your ass, Jesus will.

WONDER WHAT HE’S GOING TO DO WHEN HE FEELS THE WRATH OF GOD…JEHOVAH-JIREH, JEHOVAH-RAFFA….SAD MAN…HE JUST DOESN’T KNOW!!!

Its simple he saying when you leave out that church its back to the real life and all that praying in there was all for what? You walked back out that church door to what you left it when you went in. Stop over thinking the room people…

@Kitty
I agree, people die everyday from different causes, but beacause a lot of people died at the same time in kATRINA AND OTHER natural disasters God wasnt there??? makes no sense at all.

People People People
Wake up, you need to turn around, every single person on this post who was blasphemous against the PRECIOUS NAME of Jesus …please pray and ask for forgiveness for you know not what you do. Jesus is coming back, HE is please know it!

Jay-Z can’t save you, we will all be judged and Jay will be too…

Turn to God people He’s the only way

The ALpha and the Omega

Here’s the thing. It’s not a spirtual way or anything. It’s the evolution of man and our minds and knowledge of self.

Some are still trying to hold on- once upon a time we knew self then we lost it and now its here. You do know that everything here is about perception, all is about symbolisim. Who’s to say you even see what you see so isn’t the best way to try and see/feel/hear it all.

Not to exclude and to be a learner of many and of life?

Jay Z and Plies should’ve been on that flight not Aaliyah.

Jay-z is saying that you should live your life right even when church ends on Sunday. THAT’S WHEN GOODNESS SHOULD REALLY SHOW, GOING TO CHURCH DOESN’T MAKE YOU A CHRISTIAN, JUST LIKE STANDING IN YOUR GARAGE DOESN’T MAKE YOU AN AUTOMOBILE.

WHAT CAN YOU SAY ABOUT A MAN THAT GAVE HIS OWN MOTHER CRACK AND THEN WROTE A SONG ABOUT IT. NO WONDER HE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS CHOSEN. AND BEYONCE IS SO FAR GONE ITS PATHETIC. ALL FOR THE LOVE OF MONEY. THAT ENTIRE GROUP IS SATANIC, AND THAT IS WHY KANYE IS ABOUT TO LOSE HIS MIND TOO, FROM SINGING ABOUT JESUS WALKS WITH ME, TO HANGING WITH SATANIC JAY Z. JUST OBSERVE PEOPLE. THE GOOD THING IS THAT PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP AND SEEING THEM FOR WHAT THEY ARE. KEEP FOLLOWING JAY Z IF YOU WILL, YOU WILL SEE HOW GOD IS GOING TO DEAL WITH HIM AND THE REST. YOU DON’T MOCK GOD.

5%NATIONS… Supreme Wisdom.. GODS AND EARTH.

Negro PLEASE!

PLEASE ALL UNBELIEVERS REPENT OF YOUR SINS. GOD LOVES YOU. DON’T PUT YOUR TRUST IN THESE MUSICIANS,MONEY OR ANY MATERIAL THINGS.I URGE YOU ALL TO REPENT BEFORE ITS TO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

^^^he didnt reallly sell hias mom crack.ppl mke up liens in songs to reflect life in the hood.not necisarrily thier own.

ugly

HE MEANS LIFE BEGINS WHEN CHURCH ENDS.

ALL THE GOOD DEEDS U LISTEN TO IN CHURCH AND ACT HOLIER THEN THOUGH ABOUT U HAVE TO CARRY IT OUT OF CHURCH WITH U TOO.LIFE BEGINS WHEN CHURCH ENDS.!!!!GET IT???

JAY Z IS APART OF THE ILLUMINATI! look it up! EDUCATION PEOPLE READ!

I find it very sad that when it comes to GOD, Jesus Christ, and the bible, everyone tries SOOOO hard to combat it anyway that they can. All I have to say is that the word of GOD is real and living. Regardless of anything you could ever say about GOD, he constantly confirms his word. In the bible it says EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY mouth shall confess, i hope that you would accept the wonderful gift of salvation before it is too late…

LOLLIPOPLOLLIPOPOHLOLLILOLLIPOP

HE MEANS LIFE BEGINS WHEN CHURCH ENDS.
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High 5 – For life does begin when church ends and it is how you choose to live that saves you – people steal, kill, lie, cheat all week then go to church for salvation. Accepting Christ is a part of your salvation but you can’t accept Christ and then live a sinful lifestyle.

People are worrying about Jay when you should be worrying about those false prophets you listen to in the church who convince you that God wants you to tithe your rent money, car note, food, light bill, gas and clothes so that they can buy mansions, cars, designer clothes, vacations etc when God only ask that we take care of the poor, widows and orphens.

Being foolish is not knowing the word for yourself and then being ‘tricked’ out of your money thinking that is going to buy you life – which truly begins after church ends and you have to can’t pay your bills because of some slick preacher who in the Word is suppose to work for free.

perfectly said @ a drop of wisdom…really no more to debate about

wow. y’all out of pocket on this shit.

WOW FOLK IGNORANT

RE

CHURCH/RELIGION IS NOTHING BUT A FOUNDATION OF MORALS TO LIVE YOUR LIFE BY. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS HEAVEN AND HELL OR AN ALMIGHTY GOD.
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I would rather die believing and find out it was wrong then to die not believing and find out it was right. However – you are correct – it is your choice and no one has a right to judge your decision. Blessings!

AT THE END OF THE DAY YOU CAN SAY JAY-Z IS EVIL BUT I MUST ADMITT AFTER HEARING ALL THE HOOPLA OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS.HE SENT ME RUNNING STRAIGHT TO GOD.SO GOD MUST WORK IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS.I HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF GOD THROUGH THE PERSON YOU CLAIM EVIL JAY-Z EVIL SO YOU GET WHAT YOU CAN GET OUT OF WHATEVER…

Context Clue: Hov is talking bout the seductive pull of the city on the minds of young women.

Now, for those historically challenged:
1. HEBREWS WERE NOT WHITE, therefore neither were Christians. i.e. Abraham (Middle Eastern also a patriarch of Islam), Moses (Abraham’s great, great, great…grandson) was dark-skinned (blended with the Nubians in Egypt with no prob), etc.
2. The first Christians were Hebrews. Romans (white people) considered them atheists because they wouldn’t worship caesar.
3. An Ethipian (black) was one of the first known converts (non-Hebrew) to Christianity. Ethiopia has never been colonized by any European power.
4. CHURCH DOES NOT EQUAL JESUS.
5. CHRISTIAN DOES NOT EQUAL WHITE MAN.

Wallow in ignorance now, pay for it later.

@facing reality
I feel the same way I would rather die believing then die not believing and having God deny me on the day of judgement when it will be far to late to confess him.

Jay Z and the Roc should’ve been on that flight not Aaliyah.

@facingreality

I APPRECIATE THE RESPECT. MUCH LOVE.

SLOW DAY!

Mark my words..In due time Jay z will end up broke, divorced and alone..Pride comes before a fall.

ButtaCookie-Don’t leave out the rest of his crew Rihanna,Kanye and Beyonce and the many more!

this thread is giving me a headache ;\\ im only 15 years old i was raised in a baptist church, but everyone is saying something different about what religion you should be and i don’t know what to believe. ofcourse i believe in god but am i only a christian because my parents are. idk.. im confuseddd ! ;[[

All he’s saying is that when you leave church thats when everything you learned on sunday u have to apply to your real life or you wont accomplish anything bc God gives you the decisions and you must choose to live the way of the Lord ie walk that path. Ex: if u Go 100mph in a 60 and get in a fatal accident you decided to go 100mph when u could of went 60mph and been safe! Get off my man Jay! Cleveland In the Building!! Duces

“Mark my words..In due time Jay z will end up broke, divorced and alone..Pride comes before a fall.”

DO YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH MONEY J HOVA HAS(“POPPIN UP ON FORBES LIST… GORGEOUS”)?? NOT TO MENTION BEYONCE?? AND THEY’RE BOTH SMART PEOPLE. THEY’LL DIE RICH. I CAN’T SPECULATE ON THE RELATIONSHIP THOUGH BECAUSE I’M NOT IN IT. I SEE YOU, HI HATER!!

You guys are right, Jay-Z does not have to explain himself to anyone, but some ppl on here need to wake up!!! God allow things to happen in life to remind ALL of us who He is, but one thing I find funny is when tragedies occur whats the 1st thing ppl say?? I am a huge fan of Jay-Z but I am a man of God 1st, I am not going to jump to conclusion or anything but i would like to know his views of Religion

@Lost-Thats me I was confused so many different relegions.I came to the conclusion it’s better to be spiritual vs relegious.As long as you beleive in God and seek knowledge on your own read your bible you will be alright.

All you phony Christians better pick up snakes!
Snake handlers are the true desciples.

@lost …

I FEEL FOR YOU. I WAS RAISED THE OPPOSITE FROM YOU, WITHOUT RELIGION. AND WHEN I STARTED HEARING ABOUT IT FOR THE FIRST TIME I WAS VERY CONFLICTED AS WELL. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO EXPLORE IT FOR YOURSELF AND ULTIMATELY COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSION AS I DID. YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE CHRISTIAN JUST BECAUSE YOUR PARENTS ARE, YOU CAN PRACTICE WHATEVER RELIGION YOU FEEL IS RIGHT OR NONE AT ALL IF THAT IS WHAT YOU FEEL IN YOUR HEART.

I DON’T BELEIVE IN THOSE BIG CHURCHES LIKE YOU AT MADISON SQUARE GARDENS OR SOMETHING.ALL THAT MY PASTOR GOT A PLANE.I STAND CLEAR OF THAT MESS!

WHY DOES HE HAVE ANYTHING TO EXPLAIN?

WAKE UP PEOPLE, NOT EVERYBODY BELIEVES IN CHRISTIANITY. ITS A RELIGION JUST LIKE A LOT OF OTHERS, SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE SOME PEOPLE DON’T.

AND PEOPLE, THIS WHOLE MASON, ILLUMINATI BULLCRAP THAT PEOPLE MAKE-UP ABOUT CELEBRITIES…..DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ.

Ok-ok-ok! I already said it! Jay is of the Devil-plain and flat out. What is there to analyze? Bey doesn’t acknowledge the Lord in anything she does like she use too. It’s sad but some ppl would rather sell their souls to the devil to have fame. Satan is real and all that evil crap that comes with it. Believe it-no surprise. There are ppl who worship satan. Why is so many ppl confused about that? The only thing I feel sorry for is their salvation. They are doomed and lost. I love the Lord Jesus and there ain’t no other that can do the things he has done for me. Because these fools are blinded by all this money and fame, they don’t want to believe that. They are stupid and why I am talking, we should be praying for them. I don’t care what the next person after me has to say about my comment but, Jesus is the truth.

Re:DO YOU REALIZE HOW MUCH MONEY J HOVA HAS(”POPPIN UP ON FORBES LIST… GORGEOUS”)?? NOT TO MENTION BEYONCE?? AND THEY’RE BOTH SMART PEOPLE. THEY’LL DIE RICH. I CAN’T SPECULATE ON THE RELATIONSHIP THOUGH BECAUSE I’M NOT IN IT. I SEE YOU, HI HATER!!

HI BOO!! YESSS I AM A HATER of people like you on jayz di*k…pretty bay, he wouldnt give you a dolla on a value meal~there is ONE THING you GOT RIGHT,,he will die..dying rich…I doubt it..

And yeah, Jesus nor God can save you.

You are in charge of your own salvation.
So black folks, get up off your knees, and make it happen.
For nothing good can happen when you are own your knees and begging…..ARTOFWAR

Oh money is money and it doesn’t give you life or a relationship with God. Ppl-stop thinking cause Jay is the one b/c he is rich. It’s just fame and money. Why is everyone worshipping this man b/c he is rich? What is this? Yall are some fools for putting this man on top like he some god-What-some of these ppl on here sound like complete dummies. To the ones who keep trashing ppl that love Jesus and their religion, you need to go kick rocks! Obviously you haven’t found peace or the real meaning of who you are through Christ.

brea

Ok-ok-ok! I already said it! Jay is of the Devil-plain and flat out. What is there to analyze? Bey doesn’t acknowledge the Lord in anything she does like she use too. It’s sad but some ppl would rather sell their souls to the devil to have fame. Satan is real and all that evil crap that comes with it. Believe it-no surprise. There are ppl who worship satan. Why is so many ppl confused about that? The only thing I feel sorry for is their salvation. They are doomed and lost. I love the Lord Jesus and there ain’t no other that can do the things he has done for me. Because these fools are blinded by all this money and fame, they don’t want to believe that. They are stupid and why I am talking, we should be praying for them. I don’t care what the next person after me has to say about my comment but, Jesus is the truth.

RE: Wonderfully put..

Jay Z is the last person I would go to get some spiritual advise. I doubt if we are answering the smae Lord. My Lord wouldn’t tolerate such physical and mental ugliness from one person.

Praise God…. Every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord…. when its all said and done…. Jesus love all of us thats why He die, to save us from sin…. Jesus gets all the honor and glory

“Mark my words..In due time Jay z will end up broke, divorced and alone..Pride comes before a fall.”

@ J Jelks

Where are you from? (If you don’t mind sharing) I know of that family.

People…READ!!!! That is so key…READ THE ENTIRE VERSE!!!!

Lights is blinding,
girls need blinders
so they can step out of bounds quick,
the side lines is blind with casualties,
who sip the lite casually, then gradually become worse,
don’t bite the apple Eve,
caught up in the in crowd,
now you’re in-style,
and in the winter gets cold en vogue with your skin out,
the city of sin is a pity on a whim.
good girls gone bad, the city’s filled with them,
Mommy took a bus trip and now she got her bust out,
everybody ride her, just like a bus route,
Hail Mary to the city your a Virgin,
and Jesus can’t save you life starts when the church ends,
came here for school, graduated to the high life,
ball players, rap stars, addicted to the limelight,
MDMA got you feeling like a champion,
the city never sleeps better slip you a Ambien

(shake my head)

This bish still going about the same thing..need to fall back.

If there were an entity that created the universe or universes, what would it need with us?
Why would it need our love?

Mankind will always transcend it’s human flaws to a higher power as though that higher power were human.

In other words. We reflect our human flaws on God, if there is a God.
This is yet another example of man reflecting his own flaws and insecurities on a Divine Creator.

If there is a Divine Creator which I doubt, why would it need our love?
That would be implying that God if it exist, is needy……ARTOFWAR

People…Do you realize how much influence Jay Z has to rap a verse make you buy it, listen to it, ponder and it and possibly believe it? Yes, I have heard the claims of satanic activity surrounding Jay Z..I cant worry about everything and everybody else…As for me and my house we will praise the Lord. The same power you idolize Jay Z and other celebrities for..you possess the same power. Operating in it and owning it is a different thing altogether. Looking up to these people only causes you to take the focus off of yourself……..And what about his other song called “Lucifer”????

Jaydff

Wouldn’t it be funny…and kinda’ creepy… if this thread only allowed 666 comments?

I read the lyric. I’m confused. He’s speaking in layers.

Is he blaspheming or not?

Someone just bottom line it for me; preferably a Christian.

Thanks.

And oh yeah…And what people are taking is Danger Mouse mashup of “Lucifer” that he made for the Grey Album as a “hide message”…THAT IS NOT AN ORIGINAL JAY-Z TRACK…And that was a mashup of Revolution 9. A track by the Beatles. I wish pastors/bible thumpers that want to actually play that game do their homework.

Let’s start out by saying God Is Real, you & I & our parents, grandparents did not creat you & I God created Heaven and Earth, Open the Book please read the first book of Genesis how God created you and I, God can do what ever he pleases, he can take you out of this world when he get’s ready why, cause he can he’s in control, and one of the reader saying were God was when Katrina happen he was right there, First and far more God can destroy any city or state, country remember he created the earth, he has all power…No matter how bad some of us are God still loves us, he has giving you and I life to enjoy to the fullest, What’s important is you & I can not save ourself, first we have to accept Jesus Christ into our lives if we want to be with him in Heaven, you can died right know or tomorrow, when God comes back for your soul, you better hope & make sure you are going home to be with the lord, instead of going to hell, God Is coming back for us, you may not believe it, But it’s true just hearing some of the negative talk about God is so sad, I notice most of you are not save, God died on the cross for you and I and he rose from the dead, gone back to Heaven to purchase a place for you and I in Heaven, And God words says alot of us are going to be left behind, that’s not good, My sister & brothers there is a (Hell,,..It sad to say you can not mock God he’s nothing to be played with, I don’t care how rich you are famous you can’t not get to Heaven, Remember this our help comes from the Almighty and there’s none in all the Earth like Jesus Christ, he does not need our help we need him, you can talk and avoid God all you want too, But there is a God and you better get yourself together, people blaming the Churches, The Church can not save you, It’s just a building…Jesus Christ Alone can do that, I can smile about this you and I belong to Jesus, I’m glad I belong to Jesus he keeps on loving me & Blessing me, His Blood he shad on the cross for you & I the Blood that’s running warm in your vain know,..So all this high talk avoid God and not getting to no him, God Is not making you get to know him, A lot of lost souls are rejecting God, But he stills loves you, Old when he comes back his word already says alot of you will be running and trying to hide, But you can run nor hide from God when he comes back,..If God was to ask you right know Why should I let you into my Heaven what would you say,..That’s something to think about..Amen!!!!!!!!!!!

what the hell is youtub

@ WTF

Please read…Its so basic…And so sad you don’t even see it.

Oh you forgot this part of that break…

Man i gotta get my soul right
‘Fore i’m locked up for my whole life
Evertime it seems it’s all right
Somebody want they soul to rise

You guys are hilarious…Did you not read what I posted? Or did you pick for your argument? Read the whole thing…smh

In the lyric, Jay-z is speaking about something that should be common to many young christians: You go to the club on Saturday, and you’re at church on sunday morning. Many people are only good or righteous on sunday, and what Jay-Z’s saying is “life starts when church ends”…Meaning, now you gotta go out there and turn the other cheek, and practice what you preach, and be a good christian 7 days a week and not just on sundays.

No way he’s a day under 40.

mike

In the lyric, Jay-z is speaking about something that should be common to many young christians: You go to the club on Saturday, and you’re at church on sunday morning. Many people are only good or righteous on sunday, and what Jay-Z’s saying is “life starts when church ends”…Meaning, now you gotta go out there and turn the other cheek, and practice what you preach, and be a good christian 7 days a week and not just on sundays.

YOU ARE CORRECT!!!!

I’m just asking. But does anyone REALLY know where the Bible came from? And if you do think you know, how do you know? …And no the correct answer is not; “it says in the Bible itself where it came from”. You silly rabbit! ….I’m just asking!!

EXPOSING THE SATANIC TRUTH ABOUT JAY-Z AND OTHERS VISIT;jayhovas-ova.webs.com

EXPOSING THE SATANIC TRUTH ABOUT JAY-Z AND OTHERS VISIT;http://jayhovas-ova.webs.com

“you have to help yourself before you can get help.”

no wonder dumbed down ulta simplistic down south music is on the airwaves now. people refuse to think about lyrics. i guess this is why so many folks like plies and gucci mane. it’s simple: God helps thoses that help THEMSELVES first.

To the Jay Z worshippers – Buttacookie – you too far gone over this negro. So he on Forbes – Big friggin deal! This is some material stuff that you can’t take with you. Last time I checked, there were no U-Hauls lined up at the cemetary. A lot of rich people are miserable. Look at Michael Jackson and what happened to him and his life. The man was tormented, same as Jay Z it appears. There are more important things in life, besides MATERIAL THINGS. Your soul is the most important thing of all.

Jay Z is a mason he say so himself in that song Feat. Rihanna & Kanye West “Run This Town”. THE ILLUMANTI NWO are real wake up and do your research people.

So, some of y’all would rather live by the words of an ex crack slinging rapper than the words of the Bible that preaches morality and good??? This is sad. Think of what this world would be like without the Bible, without morals. For those of you that don’t believe in God, take a second, do some research. It wont hurt. It’s better to be safe than sorry right?

What worries me the most is that kids listen to this dude.

isnt it obvious what the lyric means?? jay z does not worship GOD do i even need to say who he worships…cmon people wake up!! jay z is a major pawn in the illuminati’s agenda…why? because they know people like yu will eat up his every word…he spreads their agenda subliminally in his music. the sooner yu wake up the sooner yu will realize it. READ BETWEEN THE LINES…i could go on and on about this subject but it will do no good. You all need to do yur own research so yu can discover how this world really works and who really controls it. The sooner yu do, the sooner they can be stopped.

SOFEDUP

To the Jay Z worshippers – Buttacookie – you too far gone over this negro. So he on Forbes – Big friggin deal! This is some material stuff that you can’t take with you. Last time I checked, there were no U-Hauls lined up at the cemetary. A lot of rich people are miserable. Look at Michael Jackson and what happened to him and his life. The man was tormented, same as Jay Z it appears. There are more important things in life, besides MATERIAL THINGS. Your soul is the most important thing of all.

REPLY FROM BUTTACOOKIE: what are you reading? I hate JZ dude..

hay next time yoe hear “Run this town” with Rhianna, listen to the verse where jay calls himself “god”: it goes like this: in referencing himself he says:

“Its the return of the god”
Peace god

truth is this guy calls himself jay-z aka jay hova put it together je-hov-ah the true name of god jehovah god there is only one and it is not jay z smh….

Getting his URKEL on?
WTF…
Folks don’t know what CAZALS are?

http://ibbanez.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/conspiracy%E2%80%8B-news%E2%80%8B-the%E2%80%8B-jay-z%E2%80%8B-deception/ follow this link

I don’t understand what is actually wrong with new world order anyway. Is the world the sh1t, and in top notch shape right now?? New sh1t is always better than the same thing over and over and over and over again anyway.

@404Girls

There is a big difference between sin and blasphemy. Christians seek forgiveness for their sins, blasphemers do not.

Nobody on this site is trying to be holier than thou, they are just defending what they believe is sacred. Don’t judge Christians by calling them “so-called” for defending their faith and their Savior.

President Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize

WhySoAngryOverSomebodyElsesMan,

you right…J don’t owe anyone a damn explaination.

organized religion, especially christianity was the worst thing that could ever happened to black folks.

europeans new exactly what they were doing when they became to maniPOLUTE the God concept of the afrikans. they knew we were a spiritual people, so naturally they could use religion to make us docile, and powerless, always waiting on some outside force external of us to save us.
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I agree. I’m a go-getter, and nothing disgusts me more than a negro not working because he thinks that “God,” and most people don’t even understand what God really is, is going to just drop it all in his lap one day. Another way to keep the ignorant ones distracted from the cashflow.

Bobby + Whitney = Eeeeew
Jay Z + Beyonce = Eeeeew

Different individuals, different couples, but one thing in common: Christian women falling for “bad boys” and entering into an unequally yoked relationship.

ppl, dnt get carried away. d devil is at work, jayz is a representative, hes a mason,hes illuminati. i tho ppl wud b wise nw, and maybe ur eyes are opened already. dnt fall for d devil trick. kill illuminati, like 2pac said

@ ART OF WAR

“I now own half of Miami, and I am working on acquiring the second half.

We did it in one hour, once we laid in everyone’s vocals. We both came from nothing and now we both have private jets, yachts and homes all over the world.”

I haven’t seen you post in a while but I see that you are still the same delusional, name dropping, story-telling character as before. LOL!!!

@Sydney

My Dear… You’re up early.

@The Bear

LOL, yeah, I have an early commute, so I have to be up.

Have a good day and happy Friday (it has been a long week).

@ Sydney

Cool… I’ll read up on Michelle while I’m stuck on the plane.

@v-fromRock

Love how, in the midst of the JZ drama, you threw in there that President Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize. I thought you were kidding, but you weren’t. Thanks.

But did you post that information here to let us know that there were more important things going on in the world?

President Obama won the Nobel Peace Prize”

He sure did — Great start to a Friday! Good for him.

The Bible says by Peace he will decieve many…

*accompanying*

@The Bear

Sure, NPR had a segment on the story as well — the Times reporter visited Birmingham to research historical documents regarding Michelle’s ancestors.

Good move Jay…..throw in a couple of fiery lines about religion in a song and create some “controversy” for yourself while expanding your name….always the businessman…. don’t think he doesn’t believe in a higher power….this kind of talk just leads more astray

you people are so stupid…..God is not real? ARE YOU INSANE? HOW COULD HE NOT BE…I MEAN….IF GOD WAS NOT REAL THEN WHERE DID THE EARTH COME FROM…THE BIG BANG? HAHAHAAHA…WHAT A STUPID THEORY THAT IS….SAYING THE UNIVERSE CAME ABOUT BECAUSE TWO PIECES OF MATTER COLLIDED…IF THAT IS THE CASE HOW COME WHEN I HIT TWO ROCKS TOGETHER A MINI UNIVERSE DOES NOT EXIST….IF GOD IS NOT REAL WHERE DID HUMANS COME FROM….OH YEAH MONKEYS…WELL IF THAT IS SO HOW COME THE MONKEY AT THE ZOO ARE NOT HUMAN YET…HAHAHAAHAHA….THE HUMAN BRAIN ALONE PROVES GOD IS REAL NOT TO MENTIONS THE ECOSYSTEM…..BC IF THERE WAS NO GOD HOW COME WE CANNOT CREATE LIFE…AND NO LADIES YOU DID NOT CREATE YOUR CHILD…..HE DID…MY SON IS 16 WEEKS YESTERDAY AND SEEING HIM COME OUT PROVED BEYOND A DOUBT GOD IS NOT ONLY REAL BUT HE IS GREAT….THANKS GOD…THANKS…..ILL BE HERE WHEN YOU COME……

To me it sounds like, Once the church (service) is over that’s when life (your christian walk) begin. After you walk out of the doors, so many people pretend inside and when you leave they could care less than a damn

This lyric has meaning. Jay Z calls himself Jay Hovah. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that paradise IS life after death. That’s what he means “life starts when church ends”.

Oh Belvi…when you die and you don’t ascend to Heaven, don’t say I told you so lol. On to the others that need to be helped. We’ll just leave you behind…

Mrs. IT……i leave you with this….from DMX since you seem to only identify with rappers…wait….its funny how you say there is no Jesus yet you capitalize his name…hahahaa…and you call jay z hova….where do you think he got that from….anyway….here is the quote….”ITS DARK AND HELL IS HOT” PEACE…

I don’t salute that. You can’y disrespect the Lord like that fam.

I have been a good person for ALL of my life. Always been helping people, uplifting people, even putting my money into other people’s pocket. At the same time I don’t believe in any religion. Will I go to hell now? I don’t think so. The concept behind religions and church is to provide ppl with a guide to life and/or something they can hold on to and believe in when times are hard. There are a couple hundred religions out there, too. Some very strange ones too. WHY is it that ppl who believe in their religion always say, “my religion is right-yours is wrong!” ? That just causes problems, wars even. All I am saying is, believe in whatsoever or be an atheist, at the end of the day it doesn’t matter what human concept of religion u fell for. JUST MAKE SURE YOU ARE TRYING TO BE A GOOD PERSON!! EVERYDAY!!

Don’t call us idiots. It’s a poorly constructed line in the song.

@Derrell:

You need to be enlightened….and SOON.

Same reason why he made that song with Kanye….Lucifer….who makes songs about the devil in a positive light? Only those who worship him and see him as being “good”.

Thats the simple question of the day.

Even in Rhiannas song, Disturbia..she says…”the darkness is the light”…meaning, the bad is really the good. The devil is really good.

Anyway….I’m not about to knock you all in the head with this because most of you are so far gone like Drake, its impossible the change the minds of idiots.

As long as me and mines know…I’m good. The rest can fall by the wayside.

Jay needs to cool down.History shows that the almighty is not to be f*cked with!Ain’t nobody too high to be brought low.Pride goes before a fall.

Now that I’ve looked into this I can say that I can’t follow this 40 year old rapper and the concepts behind his songs.
1. When selling music and ideas to black people, you don’t fool around with religious symbols and call yourself God. Prince had lots of religious imagery and self introspection, but he always held God in the highest position.
2. In the days of heavy metal and rock and roll, bands used to create cults and armys. KISS had a KISS Army made up of devoted followers who would put on make up and flash satanic and demonic symbols for entertainment.
3. Jay is living two lives. The one he created to sell music and his real self. His real self is a rich nerd.

Hip-Hop is the new rock and roll. It will be dead soon as well.

people who say i’m a gd person i have helped people i’m not a bad person it just shows you don’t actually read the bible because thats not what its all about. Faith without works is dead and works alone amount to nothing. Now for Jay Z the bible states explain the word of God to someone who isn’t interested in hearing is a waste of time so good luck best to just see what happens on Judgement day i personally rather put my faith in God than nothing at all. Peple that play with the Lords name just should be careful the world has seen the richest of people billionairs end up broke Jay Z and his cash is nothing special

@ Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo…..)
@Derrell:
You need to be enlightened….and SOON.
Same reason why he made that song with Kanye….Lucifer….who makes songs about the devil in a positive light? Only those who worship him and see him as being “good”.
Thats the simple question of the day.
Even in Rhiannas song, Disturbia..she says…”the darkness is the light”…meaning, the bad is really the good. The devil is really good.
Anyway….I’m not about to knock you all in the head with this because most of you are so far gone like Drake, its impossible the change the minds of idiots.
As long as me and mines know…I’m good. The rest can fall by the wayside.
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LUV IT!!
i don’t even need to put in my 25cents, y’all are doing an outstanding job in responding on this ‘LostSoul’!

Hey Mamita Kami, que tal?!
Still on the “Schoolin’ the Unaware” grind?!

Sometimes i think religion is like a drug for people…A means to cope with the harsh realities of life…I was born and raised in the church and I’ve never seen more hypocrisy anywhere than in the church. I was molested in the church and a ton of my friends were as well….But we don’t want to bring up serious issues….because remember, the church can do know wrong. hmmm…discusss

The sign Jay throws up is not a Diamond sign, as he leads us to believe but the sign of the compass and the square his eye the compass This is the symbol of a freemason. Masonery is a combination of the worlds ancient rituals that was practiced worldwide,The New World Order which use to consist of white folks don’t have no spiritual culture to relate to, so they form their own cult based on money and wealth take that away from them they have nothing, eventually they will die as we reconnect to our own real spiritual being, which some describe as god or what ever they choose which is fine nothing has changed we have just become distracted /disconnected by modern society with dominance we have been put to sleep mentally as the earth hots up we will be realigned with our natural creator as Earth people, we are African,followed by Asians then Caucasians. Asians to this day sleep with each other in breeding, this has led to the Caucasian inheriting a lot of genetic diseases lack of melanin being one of them Asian also believe and made up this caste system hence the original word half caste, light over dark the Caucasian because of illness were banished from their caste an lived in cave like existences,they came back for revenge to this day we are suffering from the affects of the Caucasian cave like self hate mentality free your minds folks connect back with the higher creator and things will be ok

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I’m going to pray for Jay-Z because when someone gets like he is you can’t tell them anything. THERE WILL BE A DAY when we ALL WILL Have to ANSWER TO A HIGHER POWER!!!!! And Jay-Z will be put to shame, there is more to life than money, money does not last. But OUR SOULS are FOREVER!!!! These devil worshippers are trying to make us believe there is no heaven or hell and there is. Oneday God is going to show us just how powerful he is, and ALL of the ones that have denied him will be put to shame and they will be begging for mercy (Jay-Z). THIS world is the devils playground so of course a man like Jay-Z will be prosperous, but God is greater than ALL OF US and ultimately will takeover. Let Jay-Z have fun now but I can’t wait until God shows him who is really boss. GOD AND JESUS ARE REAL PEOPLE!!!

There is nothing wrong with forming churches community centers, classroom etc, but we need to start arranging something quickly, white folks meet in lodges, the rich blacks have Boule societies the Asians still have their Mosques we need to start organizing ourselves,EXCLUDING the white folks as much as the Asians have become powerful in the sense of unity, is because they don’t allow their own to mix with the very Caucasians they created, look at China/India we need to unite and organize ourselves, educate our own children, form our own companies, reconnect back with our existing homelands, i’m not saying we should segregate completely but we need something for ourselves, own our own banks, control our own media, music, tv programmes and stop being consumers. we have tried the integration thing an it is clearly not working leave the kardashians alone we don’t need them

@Eyeball:

Bum-bum-dilly-bum-bum…..you just lost one…..you just lost one…..what ah bum-bum.

Most of the people speaking on this never even listened to his whole album. First of all, Jesus is NOT GOD! Although alot of Jesus Freaks seem to believe so. He was the son of GOD. He died so that we may live. In that respect he deserves high honors and praise. But all due praise and respect first and foremost goes to GOD because he is the reason for All of our being…

i see alot of you goin hard for jay z in here. do you go that hard for the one an true living god? whether you are a believer or not its pretty gay to be that insulted by someone questioning someone elses lyrics. i hope jay has you on his payroll.

@ Kami All Day (Haters give me Promo…..)

@Eyeball:

Bum-bum-dilly-bum-bum…..you just lost one…..you just lost one…..what ah bum-bum.
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hahahahahaah
Mama, you should go PLATINUM w/that one!!

People need to get over Jesus, christianity and any other silly religion. Religion was created to control people and the church was created to get people’s money. Maybe if people stopped trying to rely on something that isn’t even there, it might help you move forward and up.

@ mel ….
WOW Mel, where’d you get your info from!??

WHAT DOES IT PROFIT A MAN TO GAIN THE WHOLE WORLD AND LOSE HIS SOUL???

@Pooty Tang

Do you think Jesus and Christianity are for one type of people? JESUS CAME FOR THE ENTIRE WORLD! Surely, I was not converted because my ancestors were forced to. I was converted because JESUS IS ALIVE AND EVERYTHING HE SAID WAS AND STILL IS VERY TRUE!!!

the statue of liberty is suoposedly “mary magdalene” thats what he is refering to. he is just shouting out his “occult” peeps with that one. y’all don’t evn know how deep this stuff goes and you keep making fun of the “conspiracy nuts”.

obviously you people dont live in new york….the song is about the influence that the city has on you…and it will take a hold….you come here all innocent and you get turned out in new york….you can go to church but as soon as service is over you’re back at whatever it was that you were doing..so jesus isn’t saving you…

jazy z isn’t that deep…i guess if you don;t live in new york you can’t really understand how this city can have a hold on you in a very carnal way….

Alot of wickedness spoken by him in that song.

“Don’t fight the apple eve” Do ya’ll understand what that mean?

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@Come On Now, For Real??I agree with you 100%……

Its sad to see so many people are so on surface with life and not the depth of it all and what life really means. People will continue to be hard and not willing to accept we have someone who is bigger than us and he is GOD, HE IS REAL and the devil will continue to disguise himself to the world.

@moon

He said life STARTS when the church ends. Not you go back to doing whatever you did before going to church.

How many times are ppl going to have to point out to look at the whole song and not just a verse before you get it? I guess that could be a metaphore for this very debate as well.

Why is anybody getting offended? I seriously think that this is a personal subject and the only thing that should be done out loud is research or experiencing.

Truth is it all comes from Mother Africa and Mother India…. The only people who know the truth of the story are the ancients. They also made stories to symbolise what they saw. Thing is perception changes throughout the ages and we all see different realities..

As a person, I my honest humble opinion, you are to learn as much about yourself and others as you can. To explore, to be a life long learner.

I have said it before but America teaches you to be a collectivist, to not be individuals, to consume, consume, consume.

The divides I have read, the excuses I have read, they disgust me I am in no way perfect but I realise this and I work on it. Thats all you can ask of people, to work hard on themselves because the more you know of self the more you can understand and relate to others.. or even help others.

Art of War.. Thanks for your resume- maybe you should have your own celeb blog? Why hi-jack a debate on spirtuality and religion to point out your cred?

Anyways.. please stop being so close minded. A few have been really funny to read though.

I think it meant exactly what it said. I’m not a religious person and don’t know when the last time i went to church. But if my memory serves me correctly, you hear all of the things you should or shouldn’t do supposedly in church, as well as the consequences and it may make you think and want to change your life, but once you get out of those doors is your chance to apply it.

Many people are only religious when its time to go to church and a hour or two after they leave. Life begins when the church ends because at that time you must do in order to be what you want to be.

damn that last line was deep.

@Never Take sides-I already thought about it.I was raised in a C.O.G.I.C I went to catholic school,my friends were baptist,I read W/the Jehova wittiness.So with that being said I came to the conclusion it’s better to br spiritual than relegious.I don’t do church we have a lot of things going on in our churches for exa pastors sleeping with the members and the list goes on.So I am spritual and I pray and read my Bible.

@ Come On Now, For Real??? ….
HOLLA!!!

@say-it-loud! you going straight to hell with gasoline drawers on! No matter what God you believe in, you apparently have a lot of anger and/or hate in your heart. I believe 100% that Jesus died for me and he will come back for me. He was there during Katrina but you were/are too much into worldly things to see Him. All that negativity you put out is nothing but the devil. So you keep spouting about what you would do to Jesus if you saw him but be careful because you don’t know when that next breath will be your last. Be thankful for what you do have. I LOVE THE LORD!!! THANK YOU, JESUS!!! I am not ashamed. I will pray that you find peace and wisdom in your heart, soul, and mind before it’s too late.

jayz is a freemason its obvious. he worships the devil he sold his soul to the devil.him and sacha feirce.

@ Toni

Good state of mind

i think that its a very metaphorical quote that has truth behind it if you think about it..jesus christ “himself” is a spirt that you can only believe in..you dont need church to get closer to god so when you leave its every man for himself if someone wants to kill you they going to kill you no matter how much you pray..im just being a realist..i believe in evolution

thanks pooty-tang and say-it-loud for the shout out. and to everybody else coming in with their thorough knowledge

um, I like jay-z music and all, but do people actually think that I’m sitting at home worshipping this dude’s every last word. C’MON SON!!! It’s entertainment and at the most gets you thinking. he aint god to me. on another note…

i take the conspiracies with a grain of salt and say at least I know of it, BUT NO Jay-Z is not the devil, Out of all the crazies in the world killing, pillaging, raping, and Jay-Z is the devil. C’MON SON!!! (love ed lover) where the satanics at when you need them to point people in the direction of the right dude (sarcasm)

For all the kids who read this and are scared. Read. It will help you to collect your thoughts, to put words to things you feel but don’t know how to articulate.

Look at things such as sociology- structures of systems (social engineering), psychology- the id,ego and self (THREE), and ancient cultures and philosophy.

Nothing about this should be scary, it might even be exciting. You will understand how much power you have in your life and you will start looking at those living far away in a different light.

I don’t know… I posted the link before but check out TED.com as well. Very interesting conversations going on there from many points of views..

I agree with the comment made by “Oh Well”. I do believe in a higher being, or a God that is responsible for our being here, however, like “Oh Well” stated CHURCH these days seems to have little to do with religion and more about bureaucracy and MAN. Teaching people to use teachings about a supposed kind of LOVE as a hammer to bash others with is NOT a good thing. It creates deluded people walking around thinking that just because they’re following some template that others are following, that those who are not, are “sinners” or some derivative of such. This holy hammer can truly invade the minds of weaker individuals that may not be strong enough to delineate the REAL point of believing in higher beings from the LARGE group that’s concerned with the superficial aspects of it. I’m so SICK of holy rollers who put all their faith in gospel fame, clothes, cars, church hierarchy and all things but LOVING oneself for what they are and sharing THAT love…GOD is IN US, stop all the faking and let it truly let it manifest…

Jay Z is trying to be so deep that he is coming across as down right foolish.

Who knows if he is a freemason, but I do know:
He calls himself God
He rapped about Jesus can’t save
He wore a shirt saying “Do as thou wilst” which
is a quote from the satan bible.
His crew – Kanye and Rihanna at some
point wore jewellery or clothing with the
baphomet
His wife wore a baphomet outfit

I do know that can’t be good

Jay-Z is a humanist who values himself over God. His riches has decived him, The bible even warns against this TYRANNY. It’s called the soirit of the anti-Christ, they want people to rely on human falliablity rather than trusting in Jesus Christ who while we were yet sinners dided for us. Jay-Z is just following his instructions from his master satan.

@ Come On

Very Good Points made

so the question is, everyone out that feels he represent something that are against are you going to stop purchasing his music,will you stop listening to any he endorses……
since by continuing to endorse him you are in reality condone his actions and giving him reason to continue?

Me personally think again people are making too much of this. How many times have you heard of or seen someone go to church and do this and that or have all the perfect things to say, but soon as they get out they do the opposite. why is this a common action, because life starts when the church end.

How can you speak sense into a blind fool who believes money is his god. This poor, simple, shell of a man will answer for his sins. Shawn Carter knows the truth, now kick the dust off your feet and keep it movin. It’s a rap!

LOOK JESUS WALKED THE EARH 1,000′S OF YEARS AGO AND HE WAS SENT HERE BY GOD TO WASH AWAY OUR SINS… HE WAS BORN AGAIN, TO GIVE US SALVATION. LOOK I KNOW IT SOUNDS CRAZY BUT IF YOU WERE ON THIS EARTH A 1,000 YRS AGO WOULDNT THE IDEA OF PEOPLE FLYING ON PLAINS AROUND THE WORLD, TALKING ON CELL PHONES,AND CREATING VACCINES FOR PLAGUES(AIDS) WOULD SOUND LIKE A FOOLISH MYTH TO YOU, WOULDNT IT? WELL LOOK IN THE MIRROR CUZ YOUR HERE LIVING IT.

TYPO CORRECTION … PLANES

This is to, 40girls.com we as christians are not playin holyer than thow but God also says you will be held acountable for not speaking truth this is not gossip this is real why not try to help out someone that lack knowledge we all are getting educated about whatS going on with our music today this is not gossip this is concern. Real talk, I have a daughter and I am a mother I want to know whats out there. This is whats so wrong about our black community because we see problems but we fail to address them when we see them instead WE TURN THE OTHER CHEECK OR, we wait until the problem gets out of hand. You dont see this in the caucasion communitIES because they stick together and address matters right then and there. Not to get off the subject but we have a black president that shoWS right there that it THAT THERE IS a God. I myself being a young adult am going to try to help in any way I can to help myself and my black brothers and sisters out to make President Obama job as easy as possible. Its time out for being ignorant and just sit there and dnt say anything wheN we see problems. If the music industry needs to be addressED to make someone in the black community aware then so be it, its not gossip its truth. Knowledge is POWER and GOD IS THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT. SO LABEL US CHRISTIANS OR HYPOCRITES OR WHATEVER BUT ME MYSELF WOULD DO ANYTHING TO SAVE SOMEONE RATHER YET ANYONE FROM GOING TO HELL. ITS MY DUTY AS A CRISTIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LASTLY, THEN AGAIN WHO KNOWS JAY Z COULD BE FIGHTING A BATTLE WITHIN HIS OWN DEMONS GOOD VS EVIL WE NEVER KNOW THAT IS BETWEEN HIM AND GOD. I AM A CHRISTIAN BUT DONT GET ME WRONG WE ALL BATTLE WHATS INSIDE. INSIDE AND OUT OF THE CHURCH, BECAUSE CHURCH IS LIKE A AA MEETING TO ME EVERYONE IN THERE IS BATTLEING SOMETHING. WE ALL ARE TRYING TO GET IT RIGHT AND BELIEVE YOU AND ME ITS A STRUGGLE BUT WHAT PEOPLE DONT KNOW GOD IS ALL ABOUT CHANGE. IT TAKE TIME TO CHANGE AND HE KNOWS THAT EVEN GOD WA TEMPTED IN THE BIBLE. YES, PEOPLE RESEARCH BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE MAKING GOD OUT TO BE RELIGION OR CHRISTIANITY AND HE IS WAY MORE BIGGER THAN THAT HE IS UNDISCRIBABLE ITS KNOW WORDS THAT CAN EVEN BE FORMED TO ADDRESS HIM BECAUSE HE JUST THAT BIG… WE ALL SIN PREACHERS, PASTORS, MAN, WOMEN, BOY, GIRL WE ALL ARE HUMAN. THIS IS WHAT MAKES HIM GOD ALMIGHTY ALL BY HIMSELF….

TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING “WHO NEEDS JESUS” BABY YOU DO….HOW DARE YOU SPEAK AGAINST OUR FATHER WHO SEES FIT TO WAKE YOUR UNGRATEFUL BEHIND UP EVERYDAY. IF YOU DON’T FEAR ANYTHING YOU BETTER FEAR GOD. HE IS THE ONE THE ONLY ONE WHO RUNS THIS. SOME PEOPLE DON’T REPENT UNTIL THEY GOT ONE FOOT IN THE GRAVE AND ANOTHER ON A BANANA PEAL. YOU CAN’T PLAY GOD HE KNOWS THE HEART…..I ASK THE LORD TO FORGIVE ME FOR GETTING SO UPSET. READ YOUR BIBLE BEFORE SAYING IGNORANT THINGS LIKE THAT. I HOPE YOU MAKE IT IN THE GATE. I HOPE YOU DON’T WANT TO BURN IN HELL WITH THE DEVIL.GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR MIND.

THIS WILL BE MY LAST POST AND MY LAST TIME COMING TO THIS SITE. THE LORD HAS DONE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOETC………… MUCH FOR US. THIS EARTH, THIS AIR, JUST BEING ALIVE AND CREATED, THE LORD IS SO GOOD AND PEOPLE CAN BE SO EVIL. HELL IS NOT WHERE YOU WANT TO BE BECAUSE HOW CAN YOU NOT BELIEVE IN GOD WHEN YOU ARE BORN AND DIE…YOU THINK THAT IS MAGIC??? WHERE DO YOU GO WHEN YOU DIE THEN? WHAT MADE YOU? I GUESS YOU MADE YOURSELF. LORD PLEASE FORGIVE THEM THAT SPEAK AGAINST YOU I LOVE THE LORD WITH ALL MY HEART MY SOUL MY MIND MY EVERYTHING AND GOODBYE. GOD BLESS YOU ALL

@Jessica : TRUE TRUE AND TRUE !

God bless yall

this is jus ridiculous,he aint blashpheming, He is telling you jus the way the bible tells it “god help those who help themselves” we go to church and while there we feel like all is well for that moment, when church is over its back to reality…. life starts again, real life …. also he said if jeezy’s paying lebron…

Why do christians think that christianity is the only way to go? How can you be sure that you chose the right faith. Imagin knocking on heavens door and muhamed comming out…” I’ m sorry you should have been a muslim” Doesnt that sound STUPID??? I went to church for 12 years and woke up one day with that question and NOBODY could answer it. So I stopped, its stupid to think that you only get to the father through te son (jesus) your saying that the only way to get to God is to believe in Jesus? So those muslims praying 8 times a day believing with everything in their hart cant come to the father because they dont believe in jesus as the son of God. Give me a break. Heaven isnt real, neither is hell. Jesus did exist but he wasnt the son of God thats that

Thats what I believe and you can believe in what you want I respect that, please try to respect others and dont go around spreading the word to people who dont wanna hear it. Jesus didnt come for the ones who didnt need him, Spend your time talking to people about Jesus that want to hear it. Stop praying for people that do NOT believe in Jesus, again, he didnt come for them, he came for the ones who are open to the word and want to know about him. If you tried to talk to people and they said no once they said no twice and they keep saying no just STOP, you keep talking about how others need to get enlightened, please enlighten yourself an research the bble, it isnt even the original bible dammit, and now I’ m gonna stop. I’ m gonna sit back and laugh again,

@ As seen on T.V

My bible puts is differently it states…

“You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder”

James 2:19

One thing I can say is that he is absolutely right,” Life begins when the church is gone “,Life begins for the Saints that is.The Bible says,” To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord”,But there is a day when the Lord will show his anger and displeasure for the wicked and the ungodly for those who will only perfrom wickedness and iniqueity.That day for those who are left behind after the Rapture will not be a life of new beginings Mr Jay-Z ,But one of utter destruction and enolation for the unrepented sinners,Oh! and by the way Jesus is the only one who has the power to save anyone who calls on him out of pure heart.
Now act brand new if you want to!!!!!

I personally don’t understand why people who believe in “GOD” always say “If you don’t believe in “GOD” or what have you, then you will regret it when he returns”. But if “GOD” is such a humble and peaceful “GOD”. Then he would accept me for who I am, and NOT what/who I believe in. “GOD” IS NOT A VENGEFUL “GOD”, but rather a FORGIVING “GOD”. Therefore one shall not FEAR him if they don’t believe. Why would he want to harm you for not “BELIEVING”……………..

If Jay-z is against church and religion..he is a wise man

Jesus is real and coming back real soon, believe it..look at your local news the signs are here!

The line means you are what you are and saying a few hailmarys is not going to change your religion also the moment you walk out of church you have to take personal responsibility for your life.

“Do you fools listen to music or do you skim through it?”

To anyone who agrees with that very bold statement he made…you need to realize…..

Its not gonna matter whether you believe in GOD, Satan, some other supreme deity, of nothing at all.

Our government is designed so that ultimately your gonna be forced to pick between GOD or Satan.

(yes its really that black and white.)

Unfortunately, all of those that do not belief in the Almighty Living GOD will be clumped into the Satan category.

(but just remember your arms are to short to box with God)

Yeah! He’s saying once church is over and you walk out that church life begins. You safe in gods house but once you walk out them doors you basically on your own. If you believe in god you must believe in the devil he is out there. After church you deal with the good and the evil!

This is what I don’t understand bout you people. Jesus was a prophet(if that) not a GOD. U sitting here talking bout Jay-Z beliefs. If he don’t believe in it. He don’t believe it(even tho he do). Whoopty Doo. It does not make someone the devil just because they don’t believe what you believe. Thats all religion is. BELIEF. otherwise we will just have one religion. But we have multiple because of beliefs. And the line don’t even mean what u fools are making it out to be.

if thou is foolish and in the fullness of time tou shalt be sorry alongeth with those that judgeth but still not righteous and those that are ignorant and unrepenting.time will tell who the real Saviour, for the second time roundeth

To all the atheists listen up. JAYZ is not one of you. He is a mason -”imma mason” in run this town – therefore he still believes in a god. He is demonstrating in this song that he is anti-christian not anti-god as u so wish he was.

On a side note he has no business singing about Jesus in his songs – blasphemy. I dare him to sing anti-islam or anti-hindu next time…. i won’t hold my breath. Quite frankly he shouldn’t be singing about religion period.

Anyone who believes what he says will eventually have to face the truth..so no need to argue about it.

Jesus saved me. Thanks Jesus.

Jesus is love and doesn’t cause pain. He gives us freedom of choice but with each choice there is a consequence. The devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy..get it straight. As far as jay-z and all his people are concerned: EVERY knee will bow and EVERY tongue confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD!! HE IS THE LIVING SON OF GOD!! So jay-z and his people better either change who they worship or get ready to burn..they need to read the BOOK..the devil looses!!

LIFE DNT START UNTILL THE CHURCH END……….BASICALLY HE SAYIN WHEN THE RAPTURE HAPPENS AND ALL OF GODS PEOPLE ARE RAPTURED UP …THEN THATS WHEN LIFE STARTS….THE BAD WILL BE LEFT ON EARTH AN HAVE ANOTHA CHANCE TO REDEEM THERE SELF BY NOT TAKIN THE MARK OF THE BEAST!IF U DO TAKE IT U NOT BE ACCEPTED IN HEAVEN …AND FOR THOSE WHO DNT U WILL BE TORTURED BUT ATLEATSE U KNO U GOING TO HEAVEN AFTER ITS ALL OVA..SORRY!!! HOLLA BACK

We all know that Jay-z worships the Devil, but he’s right, Jesus can’t save you, Only God can save you.