BLACK PEOPLE ARE LOSING IN EVERYTHING. DOMINICANS ABOUT TO TAKE OVER THE HAIR SALON GAME.

ARE THE DOMINICANS AWARE THAT THE ARE CONSIDERED BLACK?…SOMEONE SHOULD TELL THEM THAT THE WALL STREET JOURNAL SAYS SO…..LOL.

Blacks need to step their game! You let asians take over YOUR hair industry and now Dominicans are cashing in on it too. The only people black salons should blame is themselves!

S e e k i n g A f f l u e n t c O m is a place for like-minded people who understand that intelligence, success and drive are key elements to attraction.

i definatly prefer Dominican Salons and my hair has grown so much and is si long and healthy since i switch!!!!

Black people stay losing – at this rate; we’ll become irrelevant in the next 50yrs…

I agree with Alicia my hair is much longer and heathier since I have been going to the Dominican salon. Also It is cheaper the black salon would charge $60-80 the Dominicans charge $25-35.

This is just another way of creating division amongst our people (and alot of you cannot wait to help out). Dominicans ar emostly black and mostly have the same texture hair as Blacks and so they do their own hair the way they see fit. If a black woman wants their hair done that way and they like it, whats the damn problem?? Is there a need to attack another style, maybe black salons should try it, that is if they really are worried about losing business. This is BUSINESS, you must do whatever you need to do to stay afloat. The major difference is that Asians proactively wanted to take over the hair product business and did so, I dont see dominicans actively trying to market to black women, they just have a different technique and use it on dominican women, if black women want it that way they now have an option. We really need to stop letting this BS come between us.

Who cares about this crap,

Most black men go to black barbers anyway, this is for you females.

What? No one wears weave. I have heard nothing about weaves and extentions. How many people go and get their real hair done. If so isn’t it in a short style that I would think the D’s have not mastered yet. I agree get in where you fit in. If you can knock a buissiness out the box, it is what it is step your game up.

Dominican stylists know about better treatments and use better methods 2 promote healthy hair. I’ve been to a black salon and they fried my hair! They didn’t even do the rollers right…it was a horrible experience. Dominican help ur hair grow longer, mine is down my back. Longer than the average. I have friends with “good hair” that’s hair doesn’t look as think or long as mine. Ur ends do get damaged easier if ur relaxing and applying heat to ur hair, but that’s nothing that can’t be solved with a little trim. This is why black girls love Dominican stylists, we make their hair grow longer….and that’s what they all want. To get off the weave and wigs!

capitalism turned to seem like ethnic conflict, well done WSJ, keep dividing and conquering

Really though??? Most Dominicans are black and from personal experience my hair has never been more healthy.

There’s nothing wrong with a little competition. If the black salons were smart, they’d get education on this new technique and offer it in their shops. As long as it’s not going to do any damage to my hair I’d try it.

Both are damaging to kinky/curly or relaxed hair. I’ve found that my hair is significantly healthier and longer since I stopped going to black & dominican salons. I only go every 4 months for a touch up. Take care of yo hair, ladies! Neither the blacks nor the dominicans will sit and cry with you when you come to terms with a potentially receding hairline!

they should join forces and begin working together! they can charge somewhere half way (40-50) and everyone will be happy.

I don’t visit the salon any more but when I did most of my experiences were bad. Who really takes hour long breaks in the middle of their job? I even had one lady try t o eat chicken over my head. Hell naw!

love the dominicans. they get my business every time. i am part dominican but there is a difference in the way they do hair. i remember back in the 90s in NYC the only shops were the black salons. they would gell, spray and break your hair off with all the heat and products. the dominicians wash, set and wrap. by the time you are with them for a year your hair is healthy and down your back. DOMINICANS every time!!!

As much as they want to differentiate themselves from blacks, Dominicans are nappy headed h*es as well that’s why they can control nappy hair better than the AAs.

According to my encyclopedia, Black Dominican women are more attractive than Black American women.

Umjussayin…

Fact

@ Dominican mami
Not every black woman wants long hair. And not every black woman wears weaves/wigs.

wow this is very interesting becuz they just opened up 4 new dominican salons with in the past 6 months in new castle and wilmington DE. and i love it! my hair comes out healthier i go every 2 weeks to get my hair done lol and it only cost me $22

1st……WHO CARES!!

@shawamar

“This is BUSINESS, you must do whatever you need to do to stay afloat.”

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That’s basically the gist. My stylist is Black, but I have been going to her for years because she knows how to keep my hair healthy and we have a great rapport. In the end, each person has to choose a stylist that is best for THEM and meets THEIR criteria (budget, style, health, etc.).

I am black and get my hair done at a traditional black beauty salon. I usually get relaxers but have a soft grade of hair. Sadly, I must admit dominicans stole my business for a short while. They use a ridiculous amount of heat on the hair and I eventully returned to my old salon because of breakage but when I say my 9 weeks without a relaxer hair was silky smooth after leaving there it was SILKY SMOOTH! They work wonders! but again not every head can withstand what it takes to make those wonders!

Dominican Blowouts, or American blowouts for that matter, are harmful to your hair, no matter what anyone tells you. And that goes for any race or texture of hair.

Damn right I go to a Dominican salon…they only charge $25 for a doobie (roller set) and that is all I need. You don’t need a perm, just show up and be up outta there in less than 2 hours. They don’t BS you….stop to eat and fight with other stylists while doing your hair, keep you under the dryer for 2 hours…none of that….My fav is Ms. Lilly’s on Jimmy Carter Blvd in Atlanta. Black folks better wake up…$85 for damn perm and extra for your ends to get clipped….no thank you….

Well my hair is completely natural and I have a black hair stylist. I’m not interested in going to a Dominican Salon. I’ve heard horror stories and they use relaxers so freely.

Dominicans know what their doing. what can you say?

@drenk

“capitalism turned to seem like ethnic conflict, well done WSJ, keep dividing and conquering”

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EXACTLY! Every business owner deals with competition and client retention issues, regardless of their ethnic background.

@Encyclopedia Brown thanks for the compliment

“We have Asians coming in with the beauty supplies and Dominicans coming in and taking over our industry,”
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Really? Seems a little ignorant to me…

That’s like saying that Blacks are only entitled to the hair & music industries. That Spanish folks are only entitled to the maintenance industries. That Asians are only entitled to the culinary & retail industries. That Europeans are only entitled to the fashion & art industries. And, that Whites are only entitled to the corporate world, and so on & so forth…

Instead of complaining, ppl need to step their game up. & I’ve had my hair done by both Dominican, and Black salons – Dominicans are better at it. My hair is silky smooth when I get out of there, and they work WAY faster and are a bit more professional & warm @ the same time.

Black hair salons charge WAY too much for what is often a very minimal service. I’m glad to see that the free market is working as it should. Perhaps this will encourage the black salons to rethink their ridiculous prices.

First off Dominicans can only blowdry. They can’t cut nor style to save their lives. I go only for a wash and set my beautician does everything else. The dominicans are only good when your hair is long and can just be blown out – get with it people. They have been in NYC for years and I know of no one that gets their hair permed or styled at one of their salons cause they are crap.

And to everyone saying that they are black uhm no cause they do not identify as such.

Although I wear my hair in braids, when I need a wash, condition and trim, I go to the lady that had previously done my hair because she knows my hair texture. I’ve heard that the Dominican procedure can and does cause hair loss and breakage.

I stand by the old addage ‘If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.’ The only way I’d stop going to my hairdresser is if she retired.

Encyclopidia- My friend is DR and she looks alright, but she has a dirty look to her, yellow teeth, she is a stripper. She dress and look like a dusty. When we are out people are fooled by her light brown skin, and her long blowout needed hair, she gets a lot of attention but me myself would take one look ate her teeth, and her hygeine, and the way she dress and pa/s/s.

Just don’t try getting a Halle or Rihanna hair cute…you’ll come out looking like you have amushroom on top of your head. Dominicans can’t color nor cut hair for s…hit.

i have girlfriends that won’t let anyone but dominicans touch their hair! i must admit they have very long, natural hair. i never went to one but i’m glad i don’t have to deal with the ghetto, gum-snappin’, “don’t you dare burn me while you gossiping all loud on that phone” shops. i do my own hair naturally now and it’s growing so FAST!

I want to shout out the professional black salons that take care of their clients promptly and with a great attitude! Keep doing your thing. To all the others…step your game up, put down the phone and deal with your clients properly.

Here’s a suggestion for a solution to this little “problem”:
LEARN THE TECHNIQUE! You’ve got to get with the times, ladies. The hair industry is changing rapidly. If you want to stay afloat, you’ve got to keep up with your competition by learning the blowout technique, offering it as a service to your customers and doing it better than your competition. It’s a simple as that.

Wow another way to divide and conquer afro hispanics and afro americans!!SMH…If you can’t beat Em join em! I am an afro hispanic Newyorker and have always went to Dominicans their styling technique is nothing new dominicans use the best products and have never damaged my hair I always get compliments on how healthy my hair is….People stop hating and take notes you might learn something!

“At the same time, is there anything that can compare to that old familiar feeling of slipping into the chair of the stylist who has been doing your hair for years? The community feel of a black salon is another bonus that can’t be matched elsewhere.”

Before a friend of mine from New York introduced me to Dominican salons several years ago, I had spent years waiting for hours for service and spending exorbitant amounts of money a month in black American-owned salons for basic wash and sets. I think my breaking point — no pun intended — came when my hair stylist suggested I get extensions to give my hair the appearance of being thicker. I took her advice and wound up damaging my hair.

Fast forward a year or so later, after I switched to going to a Dominican salon in the D.C. area, and I happened to run into my old stylist one evening in a mall. She asked me if I had extensions because my hair was “long.” After I told her it was all mine, she asked me for the name of the salon I frequented, lol. True story. I haven’t been back to a “black-owned” salon since. As far as the “community feel” of Dominican salons, they’re packed with sisters — both African American and Dominican — so there is still a community, albeit, a more international one (you’ll hear Spanish being spoken and Spanish-language music).

The Dominican salon I go to now is actually featured in the article, much to my surprise, so I’ll have to congratulate them when I visit this weekend. My stylist is very focused on hair maintenance and recommended some great Alter Ego products that I now use on my hair to keep it healthy. If other salons want to compete for business, they cannot afford not to cater to the desires of customers, particularly in this tough economy.

Maybe instead of complaining, provide better prices and services for you clients:

* Investigate why your clients are leaving?
* Stop making clients wait for hours
* Stop conducting personal affairs will attending to your clients (talking on the phone,eating,etc)
* Try adopting healthier hair practices that will encourage more client loyalty (updating your skills)
* Stop overcharging for services (hair treatment w/Queen Helene cholesterol conditioner ($1.99 per jar)should not cost $40.00)
* Open on time and be on time for your appointments
* Stop over processing your client’s hair (relaxers too often,irons too hot, products w/too many harmful chemicals, etc)

A good stylist that listens to their clients, run a professional operation and encourage health hair have no fear of a Dominican salon opening next door.

@shoeless joe jackson…very true.

stop complaining and step it up!
- a white girl became campus beauty queen — step it up and stay in tune w/what’s going on around you.
- a white sorority won the sprite challenge — step it up and learn to keep some to yourself. quit giving away family biz (step lessons) to outsiders.
- dominicans are stealing our customers. if salons are going thru economic hard times; it’s safe to say customers are experiencing hard times as well. i don’t shop where i can’t afford to buy and that’s not based on black/white; just a simple green fact.

stop w/the wine & foolishness and just do our hair. after working 5 days a week, who wants to spend the 6th at the salon all day? respect my time. make late customers go to the end of the line! now we have healthy, affordable alternatives. take notes and step it up!

Why the f*ck is the Wallstreet Journal commenting on black hair. All they are doing is what the majority have always done. Divide and conquer. They are ginning up controversy where there is none. competition is the American way. Competition will only make you better. Screw the WSJ

Really? Now its the Dominicans who is keeping the black woman down??? Get real people. We all know that gong to a black salon you are guaranteed to : be there all day, listen to a bunch of drama that u dont care about, your stylist wont be on time, she will eat while doing u hair and expect u to sit and wait while ur stomach rumbles, charge u an arm and a leg, extremely different prices for different lengths.. oh I can go on and on… if u get better quality of services, better prices for same services rendered and there is no difference in travel time to and from. WHY WOULD U NOT GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. Who cares what color or nationality of the stylsit. If he/she has a license and is qualified, I dont care if he/she is an alien, just do ur job!

@Sydney
That’s why black businesses are dying – patronize your own.. If we don’t patronize our own – who will???

@Sydney:

I’m in the DC area as well. Do you go to Giovanni’s? I’ve been going to Gisela for years now. Honestly, I would pick Dominican salons anyday. They’re much cheaper, faster, and my hair is so much healthier since I’ve used them. Also, they cut, and trim hair better. My hair is very curly, but fine, so I want to go to someone who understands my hair perfectly. I’ve never had a problem.

The WSJ is mad late with this. This is not a new situation. The Dominicans have been giving cheap wash and sets for a minute. So given the current economic situation of course more Black American women are going to go to them. It is simple dollars & cents. And I agree w/ whoever said this is another divide & conquer tactic…smdh

If you a providing a service, you will have loyal customers. I don’t care if Boo Boo the Fool opened a salon next door to my stylists, I would never abandon her. EVER. If Dominican stylists are doing poorly, they will lose their customer base.

With that said, now all of a sudden, black salons aren’t the bizness anymore? Black folks are so fickle. Blacks have been doing hair for decades – Madam CJ Walker anybody – but now all of sudden, we aren’t good enough? Typical.

We do not have D salons around here. I actually just began to hear of them but for 25-35 dollars I would definetly give them a try and for half of the time. I pay 75 dollars for a weave 5 for a perm, 5 for eyebrows on top of that the weave is 40-45 dollars a bag and you need two bags and this is all for a glue in. 25 dollars i’ll be glad when they migrate this way. Save all my people some money. The prices in an AA salon are ridiculous.

If black women prefer Dominican hairstylist – black men also prefer Dominican women – realtalk, they’re fine..

ummmm. I live in the midwest. My stylist has been doing that method for years and she is no wear Dominican.

Aside from the misinformed posters on here, i can vouch for this because I USED to go to a Dominican salon.

I was a faithful client for about 6 years until I noticed that they started to take less and less care in the healthiness of my hair. Their salon went through some changes, people left and new people filled their spots. The new people werent even licensed (cousins, friends, etc) who would come in to help shampoo customers and/or help roller set them.

I got tired of that ghetto sh*t.

So…I went to a WHITE salon. And to my surprise, they do my hair BETTER than black women AND Dominicans! The salon I go to now uses all Italian products (which are expensive and well worth it) and they truly do know what they are doing. I’ve been wanting a cut for a long while but was afraid to let black women cut it because (some) are haters and when the see the type of texture and length I have, they tend to get scissot happy. I let the Dominicans trim it up, but found out they didnt do a good job when I went to the white salon.

NOW….I get compliments left and right from women of ALL races! I’ve never been happier!

Personally, I would never go to any of the black salons up here because they only know how to do weaves and 27-peices (no one does REAL hair anymore?). Plus, I cant stand the gossip.

I LOVE where I’m at now….may be a little pricey, but I always leave happy and NEVER have to go home to “fix” it.

@Realist

“@Sydney
That’s why black businesses are dying – patronize your own.. If we don’t patronize our own – who will???”

Actually, the salon I now go to is owned by a black American sister who employs Dominican stylists. So my money is going to my “own.” But I still emphasize that as important as hair is to sisters, ALL salons need to pay attention to our wants and needs. If Dominican salons are popular, they must be doing something right to have lines out of the door (as I see every time I go to my salon).

@Milly

“I’m in the DC area as well. Do you go to Giovanni’s? I’ve been going to Gisela for years now. Honestly, I would pick Dominican salons anyday.”‘

I think I’ve heard of Giovanni’s — is it in D.C.? I now go to Sintia’s, and I’ve been to salons in D.C. and in Md., mostly Silver Spring. Just in the several years I’ve been patronizing Dominican salons, I’ve seen a huge growth of them. Now they’re in Adams Morgan, Baltimore, and other areas where you wouldn’t think they would exist.

Yep, like I said, it’s in peoples nature to divide us. If a Dominican woman walks down the street and a black born American does too, u couldn’t tell who was from Dominican republic, and who was born in America. So stop the racist sh….. that is soo disgusting to me.

sorry! i love my dominicans and i’m not ashamed to say it. black salons need to step their games up stop overcharging us for unpredictable results, stop making us wait 10 hours while you do God only knows what! etc. etc. etc. etc.

i have natural hair and its very curly. black salons charge me 20$ extra just because i dont have a relaxer. i think if you have a relaxer the Dominican blowout is probably too much heat for your hair, but if your natural i think its a wonderful and affordable alternative. i still patronize the black salon for weaves and cuts, but for my weekly blowouts in the winter time you cant be 20$ Tuesdays @ the Domincan salon!

@pynk – I think you are a bit ignorant. Do you know know about marketablity. It only stands to reason that if you are black, you would want to market something you know about, hence black hair care. The Asians, Latinos, and other ethnicities have figured that out. You market to people that have a common interest. Please go read about business.

If we are black and we know about black hair care, why wouldn’t we have salons and hair care stores in our community. It’s called making money. The Asians have figured it out. They know black people can be very stupid so they take over the market and make their money off out dime. Why do you think Latinos have stores in their own language. They are marketing to their people because they know what their customer base wants. This is why so many blacks don’t get it and don have shyt. We don’t support one another.

I’m sitting here reading all these, “I don’t go to black salons because my hair broke off.” How many black salons did you go to? So you mean you go to one salon and all of a sudden they aren’t good enough for you. I swear some blacks folks are a mess.

yes dominicans are of african american decent whether they admit to it or not. which most of the ones that i have come across do. and they do grow your hair out and are cheaper than AA stylists they charge for every little thing and still don’t know how to take care of your hair.

another thing… I have to agree with some of you, its all about who you go to. I have been going to same stylist off & on since I was 12. I don’t mind paying any price for a relaxer but its all about if you stylist knows what to do and what’s healthy for you hair.

Syd, never mind, I scrolled up and saw you mention your salon.

@Yun Dun Know
Those are the ones you know – the ones out here in NY loves me because I’m caramel like them.. Before this black nationalist thing, I was only into Dominicans and Puerto Ricans – they used to call me papi and, I used to show them the wrath of the black papi in the bedroom…

Now, fast forward to 2010, I’ve acquired the knowledge of self and self love – I’m only into my sisters but my sisters don’t love themselves ya noe..

@Sydney:

What I’ve found with Dominican techniques is that they tend to make your hair “flow” and “move”, instead of the “stiffness” of hairspray and heavy pomades that black stylists tend to use on our hair.

They use alot of natural “light” oils and sheen.

My ethnic background makes it easy to do my hair since my mom is mixed with a whole lot (lol) and my dad is Apache Indian so I refuse to go somewhere where they cannot treat my hair with the right products.

If black salons would try to provide an option and technique without ridiculous prices and the superside eye for sisters who dont want the chemicals then there would be no problem. I dont go to an african american salon for the most part. they charge me extra for longer hair, natural hair and sometimes it seems just because. and there are not neccessarily more or less skilled than another ethnicity. In fact I find other ethniciies explore the options of maintaining textured hair more so (minus the new ones who solely focus on that). If i ever want to maintain a relaxer or a weave and i got gwap to throw… then i will hit up the african american salon. until then, I am on LHCF – look it up, doing me or a dominican salon.

@Sydney™

“But I still emphasize that as important as hair is to sisters, ALL salons need to pay attention to our wants and needs.”

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Hi, Syd! I agree. Because even when prices rise, if you your stylist takes care of you and listens to your needs, you will go back to them consistently. It’s called good customer service.

I have never been to a dominican salon, but I have to admit that black american hair dressers have taken their customers for granted too long, and they do need better prices that reflect the economy and they need to concentrate on reducing their service times. Healthy competition is good for the community at large. However…..

@Yun Dun Know

I have also done the white salon and the only reason i stopped going there is because they seriously would break my pockets with their rates. even though my hair came out better than going to my traditonal hairstylist or the dominicans. $60 for a cut and $40 for a wash and curl?!?!! too much for me! when i got laid off from my job i had to do what would fit my pockets.

@Yun Dun Know

“What I’ve found with Dominican techniques is that they tend to make your hair “flow” and “move”, instead of the “stiffness” of hairspray and heavy pomades that black stylists tend to use on our hair.

They use alot of natural “light” oils and sheen.”

And this is one of the reasons I love going to their salons. I feel like my hair isn’t being weighted down with lot of gels and other products. I remember the first time I went to a a Dominican salon, and when I left, my hair was bouncing with every step. It felt healthy.

What Italian products does your salon use, if you don’t mind me asking? I’m now using the Alter Ego deep conditioner, and I love it. I found a great site, bluebeez.com, that sells it for a discount, along with a plethora of other haircare lines.

I went to a Dominican salon for the first time last year after being told by my friends that I’d love it. I didn’t! The round brush method was so painful, my scalp hurt for 3 days straight. What’s worse is that my hair started to break badly on the ends for months afterward. You get what you pay for: the difference in money is not worth the frustration, ladies.

And I have KNOWLEDGE THAT MANY AFRICAN AND CARIBBEANS BRAIDING AND DOING HAIR ARE ILLEGAL ALIENS AND NOT U.S. LICENSED, AND NEED TO BE REPORTED AND DEPORTED. THAT IS A MAJOR TOOL THAT BLACK AMERICANS CAN USE TO FIGHT BACK. SEND IN SOME SPIES AND CALL IMMIGRATION AND THE STATE.

@Butterscotch™

“Hi, Syd! I agree. Because even when prices rise, if you your stylist takes care of you and listens to your needs, you will go back to them consistently. It’s called good customer service.”

Hey girl, exactly. When I find a good stylist, I’ll follow her to the ends of the earth, lol. I’m an extremely loyal customer.

LOL at this story…

One time an ex-girlfriend of mine called me crying about her hair the day before a show…

Slide: Hey, What’s up Baby???

*crying*
Ex: THEY MESSED UP MY HAIR!!!!!!!

Slide: Who, who messed up your hair and why are your crying???

*crying*
Ex: I WENT TO A NEW PLACE AND THEY MESSED UP MY HAIR, I LOOK TERRIBLE!!!!!!!

Slide: Don’t worry about it, there’s no need to cry, I know you look just fine – you’re beautiful regardless of how you wear your hair. Why didn’t you go to the place you always go to???

*crying*
Ex: I DON’T KNOW!!!
I KNEW I SHOULD OF WENT TO THE DOMINICANS!!!!!!!

This article is interesting and makes a good point. The Dominicans have SALES in Brooklyn (idk about anywhere else). They do a wash/set/condition/blowout for like $10-$15 Monday-Wednesday you can’t beat that! The results are good and you can stretch your relaxer that way. I stopped going there because I noticed thinning at the roots so I guess that’s just me, but some women swear by it. Ive been looking on YouTube for hair care tips and I do my own hair now. Anywyas about this whole article — its a RECESSION. You have to do something for your clientele! Ok you have “babies” to raise but so does everyone else. Why the hell do I have to pay you $30, $40 for a wash and set when someone will do it for $20 less and get the same/better results? I don’t feel any pity for the Black salon. Oh well.

I’m sorry, but I have made the switch. After having to have breakfast, lunch and dinner in a black salon, just to get my hair done, it was so refreshing to be able to run up in a Dominican spot, and be back out within an 1.5, with fresh and flowing hair….Shoot, after leaving the black salons my hair would be “fried, dyed, and laid to the side”. And they have the nerve to say their methods are healthier? I don’t think so. Not healthier for my hair shafts or my wallet. I support black businesses, believe me I do, but I think these black salons need to take some “Round Brush” Lessons, and see if they can cut their time down to an 1.5 instead of a day and a half!!

LMMFAO @ Slide!

Hahahahaha…..

I LET AN AFRICAN BRAID MY HAIR ONCE AND IT WAS SO PAINFUL THAT I THOUGHT I’D LOSE MY MIND. THE FOOL KEPT SAYING I SHOULD ENDURE THE PAIN FOR 2 OR 3 DAYS THEN IT WOULD LESSEN. I TOOK THAT SH8T OUT THE NEXT DAY, AND WHEN I COMBED MY HAIR IT CAME OUT IN CLUMPS. I FEEL SO SORRY FOR LITTLE KIDS WALKING AROUND IN PAIN WITH ALL THEM BRAIDS AND BEADS ON THEIR HEAD AND DONT KNOW HOW TO TELL ANYONE ABOUT THE PAIN THEY’RE GOING THROUGH.

THEM AFRICANS BE PHUKKING YALL HEAD UP!

I cant stand the arrogance and hateration from some immigrants, particularly Haitians, especially because they ARE black. There should be a kinship there, but they will eat their young (if not 100% Haitian of course) to get ahead of us. Black americans can identify with Haitians, or any minoroties for that matter, in the struggle as a minority, but for some reason they can not identify with us. They even use that to their advantage when it benefits them looking for benefits for “we black people”, but the truth is they will do any and every underhanded thing toward an american black, even backstabbing us in favor of whites, its rediculous. My neighborhood was primarily Haitians where I grew up. The part of town I lived in we all nicknamed ‘little Haiti’ for all the Haitians there, so I am not talking about what I don’t know or out of just a few interactions with them. I wish I could say different. For their attitude, and their usery, I say send them all back, we dont need that mess here to confuse and divide anymore.

The key to healthy shiny hair is Moisturize! Moisturize! Moisturize once a week (using avocado and olive oil), a trim every 6 weeks, take Biotin and drink lots of water.

People always tell me “God Bless Your Hair’ lol

btw..Colombian Hair dressers are great!!!!

@Glok

“DOMINICANS ARE BLK”

Yes, they are. Ironically, when I lived in NYC, I was mistaken for Dominican on more than one occasion. They’re sisters who happen to be from another country and speak a different language.

@Sydney:

-Framesi
-Kenra
-Balmain Hair extensions (ALOT of white girls have “hair extensions”) LOL
-American Crew
-MarraKesh Oils

Those are just a few that I remember. There are tons more, I just cant think of them now.

@Sydney:

You too! lol I had one Dominican guy try and holla at me in Spanish! I was like…”whoa, papi, I dont speak Spanish, but I can understand quite a bit.

Thats one plus of going to they’re salons; you pick up on the language easily.

So I could know if/when they were talking about me….lol

@Realist:

Oh, and sistas don’t? lol Man, what you hear and see from YOUR end is TOTALLY different when its all females in the room. smh

I’ll keep those secretive talks to myself.

I’ll let ya’ll tell it though….=)

What!!!!??? I want to try a Domincan blowout. I flat iron my hair 1-2 times a month anyways. Luckily my hair can withstand a lot of heat without breaking off, so I don’t think that a blowout with do anymore damage than what I’ve already been doing. I need to find one of these Dominican salons in my area. I live in the suburbs and it’s already hard enough to find a good Black salon as it is
Side Bar: Domincans are Black too, so this is foolishness. They should work together.

I know Chris Rock’s ‘Good Hair’ was supposed to be funny but I walked away from it with a bitter taste in my mouth. How in the HELL is it that the Koreans have cornered the market on hair care products that maintain the unique texture of Black hair? HOW is that possible??? Koreans view Blacks as subhuman. Ever been into a Korean store and see how they shadow Blacks, with a burning vitriol, until they exit the place? I can’t wrap my head around it. IT MAKES NO SENSE. The profit margin from Black hair care products is so HUGE, they systematically prevent Blacks from getting a cut. Billions of dollars from Black (poor) neighborhoods – is going to KOREA. It’s insanity. And they contribute nothing to the Black communities where they open their businesses. They won’t even LIVE there. I don’t get it. Like Al Sharpton told Chris Rock, “if that isn’t cultural retardation, I don’t know what is.” F*cking ponderous. Ponderous.

@Sydney:

Oh! Oh! I got a few more…I was picturing the counter and where they sell this stuff in my head….

-Wella
-Biotouch
-RedKen
-PPS
-Nak
-Biolage

If I remember any more, I will definitely let you know! =)

@Slide Like a Fresh Pair of Gators
Hey Leeroy, do I have any mail in the mailroom??? Just asking – no pun intended..

@Glok.. Im such a… Ma Phukka!!
Don’t be dissing them AFRICANS – I just got an email from King Jafi Joe of Zamunda and, he said I just won $100,000,000,000,000 – recession is over here courtesy Jafi Joe..
**Singing Halleluya***

@2Sweet
Maybe, the n!ccaz in Miami ain’t doing this thing like the realist – tell them to holla at me and see if they won’t be on my bed by weekend… I know what they want and I’ve got their game – that’s why they call me papi..

if my stylist is doing what their supposed to do, keeping up on the latest products, techniques etc, keeping my hair healthy, reasonably priced then their is no reason for me to go anywhere else.

Any type of hair straightening damages black natural coarse hair. Blacks should wear their hair natural and see how fast it grows. Save your money. Most black women are ashamed of their natural hair texture.

@Yun Dun Know

“-Framesi
-Kenra
-Balmain Hair extensions (ALOT of white girls have “hair extensions”) LOL
-American Crew
-MarraKesh Oils”

Thanks! I’ll look this up later. I’ve started doing a lot of online research recently, and I was surprised by how many sisters are now giving tutorials on how to take care of their natural hair, grow hair longer, etc., on YouTube. I’ve learned a lot about what oils are good for hair, and I’m taking vitamins, too.

And, yes, I know a number of white women wear extensions. Jessica Simpson has her own line, in fact, and I think it’s pretty popular.

“You too! lol I had one Dominican guy try and holla at me in Spanish! I was like…”whoa, papi, I dont speak Spanish, but I can understand quite a bit.”

LOL, yes, I had people attempt to greet me in Spanish, and I had to quickly tell them that I know very little espagnol. Yes, I do love listening to another language and to different types of music when I go. It’s like going to traveling without paying the airfare.

And besides…ALOT of black women WERE NOT going to these Dominican salons until Tierra Marie said this sh*t in her song, ‘Sponsor’.

So, I guess music DOES influence, huh?

IT IS AMAZING HOW CARIBBEANS ON THIS BLOG USE THE “WE’RE ALL BLACK” LINE WHEN TRYING TO GET BLACK AMERICAN MONEY, BUT THEN TURN AROND AND MAKE RASCIST STATEMENTS LIKE “ALL DOMINICAN SALONS R BETTER.” AS LONG AS ETHNIC DISCRIMINATION GETS THEM AMERICAN MONEY IT IS OK, BUT WHEN BLACK AMERICANS ASK THEIR AMERICAN CUSTOMERS TO BE LOYAL, THEY’RE DISCRIMINATING. THESE FOOLS R CRAZY. STAY AWAY FROM THEM. NO TELLING WHAT THEY DOING TO YOUR HAIR.

@Sydney™

“Ironically, when I lived in NYC, I was mistaken for Dominican on more than one occasion.”

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Same here. Folks sometimes even speak Spanish to me. Once, I replied to a guy that I did not speak Spanish, and he said, “You don’t know YOUR language?” I laughed SO hard.

@Sydney:

Not a problem Lady! =)

REALIST…BROTHA ALL I ATTRACT IZ DOMINICAN CHICA’S, THEY THINK IM ONE TIL THEY SPEAK THAT SPANISH CHIT….AND LAWD IF I KNEW JUST A LIL SPANISH ..ALL THEM CHICS LOOK GOOD AS A MUH PHUKKA ..NOT ALL NOW …YOU KNOW BUT MAN THE ONES THAT I HAD,… LAWDA AMERCY!

@Yun Dun Know
Hey Puerto Ricans and Dominicans make me speak Spanish in the bedroom and the way they call me papi turns a n!cca on and they know how to handle a brother.. Jamaicans are kind of similar but AAs and Africans just act a little bit strange.. No AA has ever made me speak Ebonics and I’ve never met an African that made me speak Swahili…

I know here in DC…Dominican saloons are taking over…barbershops too…

Greetings to ALL

*waves hello* to: Sydney, Butterscotch. Pnky *waves hard* & Matix

The last time I ever went to a salon (black hairstylists)was when I was 18 years old. Since then (through trial and error) I’ve learned to take care of my own hair and the only time I would go now is to get my hair braided (which I haven’t had done in several years). I grew out my own hair, experimented w/different products til I found which ones worked for my hair type and clip my own ends.

Hey Leeroy, do I have any mail in the mailroom??? Just asking – no pun intended..
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@Realist

When the white woman over here called me that she called me the ONLY other name of the Black Man that she knew in the office. I work upstairs with the white people doing technical work…

Lame attempt, try again…

BIG UPS TO THE DOMINICANS,.AND CHICA’S THAT COME TO THIS COUNTRY AND SET UP SHOP WHILE MY BROKE BLK SISTAZ COME BLOG AND COMPLAIN LIKE A BUNCH OF JEALOUS AND LAZY BYTCHES!

It’s not just the prices and how nice they make my hair look but when I go to a Dominican salon I don’t have to wait. I can walk in and be out in an hour and a half without an appointment. Even on the weekends. At some black salons I would have an appointment and still be there four hours later.

@Here to share knowledge, not argue….
God bless you!! You’re such a sweetheart!! I’ll buy you a e-wine in a bit.. I GUESS THE CONSENSUS IS THAT BLACK SALONS SHOULD REDUCE THEIR PRICE – LET’S GET THE MESSAGE ACROSS… THERE’S RECESSION OUT THERE!!

@Glok
I was learning Spanish before but I gave it up for Swahili.. We need to preach to them that they’re black as well – the European Spanish don’t even like their a$$es..

@Butterscotch™

“Once, I replied to a guy that I did not speak Spanish, and he said, “You don’t know YOUR language?” I laughed SO hard.”

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LOL, girl, you’re slacking.

Hey Ms. EJ! How are you, girl?

The name of the game is divide and conquer! people are on here debating between dominicans and blacks. Can’t you all see whats happening? And what makes matter worse, everyone is falling for it. It does not matter what color you are because if you can do hair, you just CAN! It does not matter if you are black or dominican. Quiet as kept, you have a lot of other races out there that can’t do hair as good but you do not see them challenging each other! Only us, people.

@Mock Rock Star

“So I finally ventured off to “Whole Foods” and tried this product called Kinky Curl and I must admit it’s been a life saver. Now it’s pricey but it tamed the back of my hair and it doesn’t flake. I was just telling my husbabd that I haven’t had split ends since I went natural.”

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I am gonna have to try that. I currently use Potion #9 by Sebastian, but I am a product junkie and will try most anything as long as it does not cause me bodily harm. (LOL) If you ever try “The Purple Door,” let me know how it goes and if Sir Dwight makes an appearance.

Another thing I love about Dominican salons are the hours — there’s one salon I went to in Md. that opened at 6 a.m. on Saturdays, and, yes, there was a line at the door when I went. I was in and out and enjoyed the rest of my day unfettered.

@SYDNEY- Hey, girl…I’m doing good, tired from packing (still am), but doing good and you? Since last Thursday, Mother’s Day weekend up until yesterday I’ve busy non-stop. Today, I finally got a little break.

@num1dominicano
5/13/10, 15:25:pm

I know here in DC…Dominican saloons are taking over…barbershops too…
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Exactly….We even have a few here in Woodbridge….

been busy*

@Yun Dun Know

The messed up thing about it, was when she called I was in the bathroom stall and had just picked up to tell her that I’d call her right back but she was soo distraught and wouldn’t stop crying and so I had to stay on the line to try and console her…

Then someone came in there and I was embara$$ed to be on the phone in the bathroom stall talking about her messed up hairdo and so I had to keep on whispering = “it’ll be alright, you’ll be just fine”…

It was the first time that she ever called me crying about anything and so it caught me off guard, plus being on the toilet, then someone coming in the bathroom… SMMFH @ myself…

That’s what I get for picking up the phone while in the middle of taking care of business… NEVER again…

@Glok.. Im such a… Ma Phukka!!
5/13/10, 15:28:pm

BIG UPS TO THE DOMINICANS,.AND CHICA’S THAT COME TO THIS COUNTRY AND SET UP SHOP WHILE MY BROKE BLK SISTAZ COME BLOG AND COMPLAIN LIKE A BUNCH OF JEALOUS AND LAZY BYTCHES!
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Now you know you don’t mean that….even YOU are not that mean….I read your comments on the Kendra post (and did not say one mean thing to you). So you can not tell me that someone who has that kind of sense REALLY feels this way….so just drop the act….I see you for who you really are now and I must say fighting with you will no longer be fun….

Hey, Syd. We haven’t talked in a while. How’ve you been? Did you see ‘Good Hair’? I know you’re a thinking sista who must have some interesting feedback on it.

@Ms. EJ

Oh, you’re moving, right? Congratulations again! Did you have a nice Mother’s Day?

When it comes to busines-s and pulling a profit people will become competitive. Todays, economy is by far not great and most people are finding other places that fits within their budget with decent to good quality with an affordable price. I think for the salons complaining then they should have a group meeting to see what they can do better and have their clients fill out and drop in notes that list their pros and cons of that salon.

@Ms.EJ

“My hair tends to lean more on the side of needing moisture.”

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Hi, Ms. EJ (waving)

Me, too! I am all about the deep conditioning treatments. My stylists (and I) use Alter Ego shampoos and conditioners, and Sebastian and Aveda styling products, which tend to feel really light on the hair but make it shiny.

@ Matix… you aint got no hair, your a man

@SYDNEY- Yes, ma’am. I had a wonderful time on such a special day and ate good, too,lol.

I go to both African-American salons and Dominicans. I head to Dominicans for an inexpensive blowout but won’t dare let them cut my hair. They usually can’t style.

MY THING IS…OVER TIME RELAXERS THINS AND DAMAGE YOUR HAIR AND SO MANY PPL NOW ARE GOING ALL NATURAL…YES IT’S CHEAPER AND HEALTHIER….

@Butterscotch™
I am gonna have to try that. I currently use Potion #9 by Sebastian, but I am a product junkie and will try most anything as long as it does not cause me bodily harm. (LOL) If you ever try “The Purple Door,” let me know how it goes and if Sir Dwight makes an appearance.

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What type of reaction does your hair have to Potion #9 and what style are U going for??? BTW, that product is called Kinky Curly…I always mess it up when I suggest it

I see a trend here…

Black men are dating outside of their race-complain and whine!
Dominican salons are taking our business away-
complain and whine!

When do you decided that that sense of entitlement isn’t getting you anywhere????

STEP UP YOUR GAME!!!

Nothing at all in life is guaranteed just because you sit and look pretty,or just because your pigmentation is a certain way.

You have to compete!

If someone is cleaning your clock,work harder and try thinking outside of the box!

REALIST SAVE THE BULLCHIT SON ,..NO IM NOT DOMINICAN ,.BUT I HAVE FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT ARE AND PPL IN THIS BYTCH AINT GOING TO DETERMINE WHO BLK AND WHO NOT ,..WHEN THESE SAME MA PHUKKA IN HERE DONT EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE THEMSELVES …I CAN TALK TO BLK PPL ANY PHUKKING WAY I WANNA ,,,SAVE THAT CHIT

ALEXIWAQ!

SHUT YOUR SIMPLE AZZ UP YOU DONT KNOW ME FROM SOME POSTS …GTFOH …I BEEN DOING THIS ..SO DONT COME HERE WITH YOUR SET OF RULES ..SKIP ME IF I OFFEND ,..BUT DONT TELL YOU DONT SOUND LIKE A JEALOS BYTCH WITH ALL THE INSULTS …IM HERE FOR GLOK …IF I GOTTA TALK TO MY GOT DAMN SELF SO BE IT …AS LONG AS I GOT BUD IM GOOD! I WILL SIT IN A POST AND TALK TO MY GOT DAMNSELF ….THAT SIMPLE …IT NOT ABOUT YOU ,..YA DIG?

@AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHSHADDAAAP!!!!

“Hey, Syd. We haven’t talked in a while. How’ve you been? Did you see ‘Good Hair’? I know you’re a thinking sista who must have some interesting feedback on it.”

Hey there, how are you? Yes, I saw “Good Hair” with some friends a while ago, and we had a long conversation about it. The segments about the ingredients in perms and the market for extensions were chilling (this is yet another reason why I prefer salons that do NOT offer weaves). You mentioned the part about the gargantuan hair care products business which is now predominantly run by Asians. It does anger me greatly that when I cannot seem to find one beauty products store that we — or any black person from across the Diaspora — owns. I now see that some stores now employee black Americans or Africans to respond to customers, but, for the most part, we’re cut out of a multi-million-dollar industry. I think there was a documentary released some years ago about how the black hair care products business became the domain of other cultures, but I, unfortunately, didn’t see it. It is a very vexing issue that I would like to explore further.

I learned a great deal from the documentary, but I find it interesting that there’s so much attention paid to black women and their hair. It’s like we’re some sort of enigma.

I don’t go to Black salons because I haven’t had luck with them doing what I can do to my own hair however it is about business. If Blacks were hip to the game they would rent a chair out for those types of services in their own salon. (duh!) @Glok—you sound slow, stop typing.

@Education is Key you have to look out for those Africans too! Luckily I have a homegirl who is American and she has her own braiding salon. I’ve had really bad experiences with a few of the African braiding salons…too rude, speak their language, obviously talking shyt about you etc. And some of them braid TOO TIGHT! I wear braids too much for all that, otherwise my edges would be nonexistent. I have run across some great African braiders who were very sweet and not heavy-handed @ all.

@SYDNEY- When I use to live in El Paso, Texas there was only one black owned hair/beauty supply store. My mom and I along with a few other’s use to always go and support it, however the man started raising the prices, to the point, that it was blatant that he was taking advantage of the few black customers who were supporting him. Several months later, he went out of busines-s along with his unpleasant attitude.

@Glok.. Im such a… Ma Phukka!!
Yo son, don’t be dissing black people – I’m black and I’m proud of my color; and I love my people to death.. People need to know their boundaries – it ain’t no one’s fault that Puerto Ricans and Dominicans don’t want to be black when it’s obvious they’re black – they can’t have it both ways.. Join us or f*ck off is the slogan to them – I don’t see people complaining about Haitians,Jamaicans or Africans – Dominicans don’t want to be black – so, f*ck them…. How are you going to say that you’re all for black people – yet, call us broke????? Stop that son, for real..

GABULOUS YA STOOPID BYTCH ..NO BODY IZ GOING IN YOUR FUNKY AZZ HOUSE TO GET THEY HEAD DONE ,..BROKE AZZ C.U.N.T ..WHY DONT YOU SET UP SHOP ?…AND BRAID SOME HAIR YOU BROKE …NO YOU JUST LAZY ..AND WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT OTHERS ARE DOING HO ….I MAY SOUND SLOW BUT MY MONEY COMING IN REAL FAST,… BYTCH!

@Glok

ALEXIWAQ!

SHUT YOUR SIMPLE AZZ UP YOU DONT KNOW ME FROM SOME POSTS …GTFOH …I BEEN DOING THIS ..SO DONT COME HERE WITH YOUR SET OF RULES ..SKIP ME IF I OFFEND ,..BUT DONT TELL YOU DONT SOUND LIKE A JEALOS BYTCH WITH ALL THE INSULTS …IM HERE FOR GLOK …IF I GOTTA TALK TO MY GOT DAMN SELF SO BE IT …AS LONG AS I GOT BUD IM GOOD! I WILL SIT IN A POST AND TALK TO MY GOT DAMNSELF ….THAT SIMPLE …IT NOT ABOUT YOU ,..YA DIG?
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You are a big fake faker….and I know you are talking shyt to get something going…but I am going to be nice to you…talking about Africans, Ibos and Yorubas…you think I don’t know? My family is from Abuja…no one has that kind of knowledge and then gets on here acts like he has shyt for brains….just stop it…

@Glok most Dominicans do not consider themselves black at all. That is coming right from the horse’s mouth. I am only 1/4 Guatemalan and many of them look blacker than my azz. I don’t get them, but it’s not my culture, so be it.

to be honest to God,
i had a bomb black stylist 4 years ago, and we fell out with her because she took too long to finish. so we tried dominican hairstyling. yes, everything you hear about it is it. i thought it was good for me, however, before i came to the dominicans, i have thick, long and beautiful hair. length is not a factor to me personally, i can grow my hair out, but do to such heat, it has thinned my hair out terribly. dominicans simply cannot treat black hair. id rather have thick hair then thin hair, that moves with the wind

Here to share knowledge, not argue….
My fav is Ms. Lilly’s on Jimmy Carter Blvd in Atlanta. Black folks better wake up…$85 for damn perm and extra for your ends to get clipped….no thank you….
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I think I’ve been to that one, but my memory is fuzzy…then again who knows with me

@Clarkekent3000
Keep your opinion to yourself brah – you look more white than Bill O’reilly – we’re discussing the black state of affairs here not aryan race.. We might let you have a say when you get more followers on twitter – till then, just read the comments and enjoy..

@Here to share knowledge, not argue….
Lol! You know breast milk is the shiznit – I won’t mind eating my cereal with that every morning – that’s some natural milk right there.. Your husband is lucky guy, now that you’re pregnant!!

Inexpensive is not always the route to take. All that heat is very damaging to your hair. Yes, they can straighten your hair, but are they treating your hair at the same time? Folks need to stop taking the cheap route!

@2sweet
DO U KNOW IF THOSE AFRICANS WHO STRICTLY DO BRAIDING HAVE THE SAME LICENSE AS AMERICAN BEAUTICIANS? I DONT THINK THEY HAVE TO BE LICNSED TO DO THAT BECAUSE THEY AREN’T WORKING WITH CHEMICALS. DO U KNOW?

Hey Syd…Long time girl..

I have been rockin with dominican’s for as long as I can remember..(my moms best friend was one and she did my hair as a little girl…always came out looking nice)

I still use black salons from time to time but I don’t tolerate long wait times..you won’t get my money or time dealing with that mess. I refuse to do it.

Its all about knowing your hair and learning how to take care it (yourself as well)

I agree with Somali Ninja! Most black salons don’t know shizz about running a business the right way. They make clients (with appointments) wait for 2 hours to do their hair, then they catch attitude, THEN they make you sit under a dryer for 5 hours to go work on 3 other people’s hair, THEN they sit there munchin’ on a sandwich or some chicken, and FINALLY they charge out the azz for their wack service! Dominican salons for me!

My hair started shedding and falling out when I left my black salon for a dominican one. They do get your hair silky straight, but the heat is so damaging (and painful). I’m going natural now so I’m about to just do the kareton treatment instead.

I put off seeing ‘Good Hair’ for the longest time for much the same reasons you touched upon, Syd. But I do like Chris Rock’s views on the issues he brings up in his concerts. We’re in the same age group and have had similar experiences. I went to a high school, one of the oldest in the country, that accommodated mostly White and Asian students then at the end of the day, I went back to the hood so I can identify on that level. But I’ve come to understand he’s really insightful and what he brings up in his acts are often poignant and thought-provoking observations. Many times I’ve found his interpretation of every day life situations very similar to my own. Hey, how about the scene where the Indian women at the temple were having their heads shaved completely oblivious to the fact that the hair was being sold to the American weave industry. Isn’t that obscene? Conscienceless deception under the guise of spiritual humility.

I have dreads and do them myself or let hubby or 1 other person do it.

But when I used to get my perm, I definitely went to the Domicians. When I went back to the black folk my hair started coming in and also…

DAMMIT BLACK FOLK, why give me a 10:00am appointment and don’t even wash my shyt until 1:00pm? That is the problem right there. The customer service is shoddy at best.

@BUTTERSCOTCH- LOL-Yes, I do I’m still a recovering product junkie, lol, but yes 100% natural products. Oh, for shampoo I use is “Raw Shea Butter Moisturizing Shampoo” by Treasured Locks the first 5 ingredients are: shea butter, avocado oil, vitamin E, soy milk protein & aloe vera. I have to order that in large numbers, because most times it is so out. “Nutiva” is the brand I use for the coconut oil.

@ shoeless joe jackson
5/13/10, 13:57:pm

ARE THE DOMINICANS AWARE THAT THE ARE CONSIDERED BLACK?…

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Um, yeah, i was thinking the same damn thing!
Hello!
My cousin’s BF is dominicano and they’re BLACK/African/Nubian whatever you want to call them…they’ve got melanin in their skin! Never understood the seperation!

But I empathize w/the U.S salons…they are indeed competition. My lil sis went down there and one of them did her hair and wrapped it in a way i’ve never seen before! Her hair was shiny and full…it was really nice, had to admit!

@Angel(formerly UrHeiness)

I thought U wore your hair natural…I guess U like to switch it up, eh???

It’s called CAPITALISM —- daaaaayum!!!

That’s why 75% (when I last checked, so feel free to correct me) of the NBA is b.la.c.k.,
and most professional skiers are NOT !!!!!

Nobody is conceding ANYTHING to ANYBODY — and those who have made a niche are holding on to it with a stranglehold — don’t get mad, hell get BUSY.

If there is ever a market for balding g.i.g.o.l.o.s. with tiny johnsons, middle age couch potatos are going to RULE.

I myself have been getting my hair done by Dominicans for the past 15 years. The one time that i deceided to try out a black beauty salon and asked then to please straighten my naturally curly hair, the owner told me that i would have to relax it in order to do so (ummm not going to happen), when I explained that it can be done using a round brush she looked at me crazy. Went right back to my dominicans

@ Realist

@Here to share knowledge, not argue….
Lol! You know breast milk is the shiznit – I won’t mind eating my cereal with that every morning – that’s some natural milk right there.. Your husband is lucky guy, now that you’re pregnant!!
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I am not pregnant! LOL…that is the second time this week you have said that….you have me confused with someone else on here….nor am I married…hahahaha

@ANONYMOUSGAL
U DO YOUR PART. U DO YOUR PART TO FIGHT FOR YOUR CHILD’S BIRTHRIGHT NOT TO BE STOLEN BY THESE BLACK IMMIGRANTS. ALL IT TAKES IS A LITTLE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT FOREIGN CULTURES, STOP BUYING THEIR DRUGS, AND STOP PATRONIZING THE BUSINESSES THEY OPEN UP WITH DRUG MONEY. LAUNDERING DRUG MONEY IS ONE OF THE MAJOR REASONS THESE BUSINESSES R OPENING. STOP BUYING IT.

This is nothing new, word was out back when i was in junior high school, like 15+ years ago that going to Dominican salons was cheaper and they ‘made your hair grow’. And I guess it was true since this story says their business has expanded.
I did know someone who got a terrible perm at a Dominican Salon though so maybe stick to the bi-weekly wash and set and leave the major work to the traditional salons?

@Mock: I’m natural now but I get easily bored so yeah,I switch up quite often.

& when I go natural,for the most part it’s because I’m letting my hair grow out & refuse to apply any relaxers or chemicals on it during the process.

also, african-americans need to stop blaming other’s and get their game tight. yes, racism exists but as a people we have to start taking care of business and make changes when necessary. as a people we are surviviors.

Black hair salons charge way too much, and they book appointments too close together. they will have a 8, 8:15, an 8:30 and so on…thats why it takes mad lond… They wash you at 8:00am sit you under the dryer or you just sit ther and wait… they do 8:15…8 is still sitting.. then they wash 8:30. soooo what if 8:30 is getting a relaxer. its 10 something when you even get back in the chair… I cant understand the prices. wash and set $60.00, if you need trim add 20.00
if you getting a relaxer add 20.00 more. deep conditioner 20.00. I think the black salons was charging so much cause who else is going to do our hair, there really was no competition. and the dominicans are fare on prices, and the products they use are better for ethnic hair. they get my business and my hair be so bouncy, and straight. and the most i have ever paid was 45.00…out in three hours max. and i have been to the dominican republic and they look just like you and me …they black

I’ve been gone to Domincans over the last three years since my stylist moved to Atlanta. Truth is my hair has grown alot. It really has, but i attribute that to the fact that my roots grow in quick. While my hair has grown…I’ve lost hair. My hair isn’t as thick and full as it use to be. No volume and no body nada…ever since i started going to them.

Yes it is easier to get in and out, yes its cheaper. But I find that they don’t know alot about our hair (atleast the ones i went to). Outside of giving a perm, and coloring, and a wash n set…I don’t think can do much. And ontop of that…they use way too much heat for liking. I’ve gone to three in the last 3 years and I’ve gotten fed with getting burned when i get a perm, so I’m back to going to a blk salon. I found someone with a small client base, but I’m okay for now. I’ll still go to the dominicans and get a wash, but i won’t let them do anything else.

Hey IJM!

@SYDNEY- Yes, I remember last year when Starbucks started to really take a hit, so, I’m not surprised by that. Yes, customer service is key and good customer service at that. Girl, my mom gave him a piece (no cursing, just stern words of advice) of her mind when he raised the conditioner we always bought by 4 dollars within a week. It was an accumulation of what he was doing, and she couldn’t take it no more.

Angel, yo a$$ ain’t from no Honduras! LOL! Nigeria, Kenya, maybe…

HEY EJ!!!

SYD

SOUTHERN

ETC

ETC

ALEXIWAQ!
OK YOU PREGGO ..M I WONT CALL YOU ANOTHER BAD WORD …THIS ENTERTAINMENT ..OK SO WHY YOU ALL SERIOUS …THAT KNOWLEDGE YOU SPEAK OF IM SHOWING IT HERE EMBRACING MY OTHER TRIBES OF PPL BLK DOMINICANS LOST ..FOR A LACK OF KNOWLEDGES AND IF YOU SAY WHO YOU REALLY ARE THAN YOU WOULD BE SAYING THE SAME THING IM SAYING …IN THE WORDS OF THE LATE GREAT BERNIE MACK MAY HE R.I.P ,..I AINT SCARED OF NONE OF YOU MUH PHUKKAZ!

@ Ms.EJ
5/13/10, 16:12:pm

Don’t mean to butt in…I came across this recipe for a moisturizer for nubian hair…it’s called Shealoe! I’m still using it and i’m using it ALL over…hair & body!

You mix 1/2 cup of unrefined white or yellow shea butter

▪1/4 cup of aloe vera gel

▪ 2 tbs of coconut oil and/or olive oil depending on your preference.

I used Rosemary (stimulate scalp circulation/handles dandruff issues) and Peppermint. I’ve noticed significant hair growth and softness. I’m going to try it again with YlangYlang & Chamomile (balance scalp oil production & makes hair grow thicker/darker).

Also, I’ve heard that using Shikai powder as a wash and Neem oil (what EastIndians use) helps to repair damaged hair!

William Lynch doctrine at its finest…lol After reading the comments it obviously STILL WORKING…

Step your game up people and stop bickering…

On love

@education is key, yes, to perform any hair service on the commercial and professional level requires one to complete a state-mandated exam. Now, whether individual braiders at any given salon have them, I would not know. They are supposed to be licensed though, even to braid hair.

@THE LADIES- Has anyone gotten a rinse? My friend got a jet black hair rinse. I also seen a woman online with the same color rinse and it looked real nice. I would like to try it myself, but am afraid that it will change the texture of my hair.

STOP LETTING THESE FOREIGN NUCCAHS CON U WITH THAT “WE ALL BLACK” LINE. THEY ONLY USE IT WHEN IT GETS THEM AMERICAN MONEY OR A RICH AMERICAN BLACK MAN. THE REST OF THE TIME THEY WANT SEPARATION. I USED TO WORK WITH ONE WHO WAS HAPPY TO MARRY A BLACK PROFESSIONAL AMERICAN MAN, BUT OFTEN SAID SHE WOULDN’T HAVE A BABY 4 HIM, AND THIS BISH WAS BLACK. SAID SHE WANTED A SPANISH BABY.

@Biyotch pleas!: LOL even if I were from Africa? why is that so funny?

Heck,I wish I get the chance to go there someday.

@ the end of the days,that’s our(blacks regardless where we born/raised) continent/country of origin (the motherland) so no shame here.

Btw,if you can hook me up with a ticket to South Africa,I’ll be more than thrilled since I’m a soccer fan & am excited about the Worl Cup.

@ education is key……hit the books again, cause they are not making braiders get lisenced.

Well Glok, at least you admit that you are slow, that’s the first step. Next, learn to read I did not say I did others hair I said I did my own. I can pretty much guarantee that I make more than you and my cheese is not stacked under a mattress. I will know end correspondence with you as ignorance is viral and you are infected. Moron.

Black women need to stop feeling entitled because they are black. I’m going to go to whoever does my hair the best, keeps it looking healthy, etc.

I’m loyal to my race and support my own; however, I don’t want to be taken for granted. This means I want to see results. Just because you’re black doesn’t mean I’m going to pay you to do a bad job. I don’t want to get to the salon to find I’ve been “mistakenly” double booked, I don’t want to hear Gucci Mane, Lil Wayne and Beyonce in the back ground, and I don’t want to hear how some man has yet again dogged you out.

As far as prices are concern, if an Asian is going to charge $60 to do it and black person is going to charge $80. I don’t mind going to the black salon. What’s $20? And besides Asians don’t particularly care for black people anyway which is another reason I don’t get my nails done at their business other than the fact they are often unsanitary.
They do not properly wash the tubs, clean their tools, or perform procedures that are not legal in many states.

*now

@Ms EJ a rinse will not change the texture of your hair. A good rinse will coat the hair shaft and add shine. Some brands might leave your hair crunchy, so be careful! They don’t cause damage though. I love rinses.

Oh, very important…

You just need to add a few drops of the essential oil (i.e: rosemary, ylangylang) to the Shealoe mix!

It’s been a while since I purchased this Dominican product called “Miss Key.” They make a couple of different kinds of conditioners but this one is “black” and comes in a black container. It does wonders for your hair. I swear on my childrens lives – my aunt’s housekeeper had less than an inch of hair on her head for years. Her natural hair was coarse so she used to get relaxers at a black salon. Then she started seeing this Dominican hairdresser [who still used a relaxer on her hair] but in less than 6 months her hair was shoulder length, shiny and full. – And no it wasn’t a weave!

That’s what made me switch. Dominicans do a much better job on African American hair that has more of a wavy/mixed texture or straighter hair. Most African American stylists tend to over process mixed textured hair in an attempt to get it bone straight or worse – give us that greasy pressed look. Also many African American stylists cannot tell the difference between naturally straight and processed hair which is scary.

Latin Americans are a mixture of varying degrees of African, Native American and Caucasian which is the same as many African Americans. Whenever I visit South America or Mexico eveyone speaks to me in Spanish so I can relate to those who have been mistaken for Dominican. Sometimes I wonder if its the long hair. Folks act like ALL African American women with long hair have weaves. Personally I think all of this over processing and the weaves are making African American women bald. I cannot understand why people put all those chemicals in young girls’ hair.

@LADYNUBIA- Oh, you’re fine. THANK YOU! so much. I just copied and pasted that hair mix list. Yes, rosemary and peppermint are very good for our hair. Garlic is good, too, especially for shedding. Thank you again! I love anything dealing with natural hair products and/or mixtures.

@ Glok.. Im such a… Ma Phukka!!
5/13/10, 16:19:pm

ALEXIWAQ!
OK YOU PREGGO ..M I WONT CALL YOU ANOTHER BAD WORD …THIS ENTERTAINMENT ..OK SO WHY YOU ALL SERIOUS …THAT KNOWLEDGE YOU SPEAK OF IM SHOWING IT HERE EMBRACING MY OTHER TRIBES OF PPL BLK DOMINICANS LOST ..FOR A LACK OF KNOWLEDGES AND IF YOU SAY WHO YOU REALLY ARE THAN YOU WOULD BE SAYING THE SAME THING IM SAYING …IN THE WORDS OF THE LATE GREAT BERNIE MACK MAY HE R.I.P ,..I AINT SCARED OF NONE OF YOU MUH PHUKKAZ!
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Don’t be scurred of me….LOL for what? I just know you have way more sense than you lead us to believe….Kinda like Plies and David Banner…they both have like masters degrees and want to act like they have no sense at all….do you know how long it takes to write a dissertation?

@Ms.EJ: Since you asked in general..yes I’ve gotten rinses before in different shades & well,I can’t complain…I was very pleased & it looked real nice.

Nothing to drastic of course,just a gloss to add a little pizazz to one’s natural hair color…very natural looking too.

All depends on who does the job.

HELLO to Ms. E.J. !

She is so nice !

Yo real talk !

@2SWEET- Thank you for the reply and what brand of rinse do you use? I do not want the crunchy, hard feel…that is my fear.

This is why I am loc’d up now. I dont have to deal with any of this mess.

i worked with a big fat azz ugly arab who had black men cutting themselves over her!!! said she didnt want no black babies either.

@ANGEL- Thank you. I really appreciate all the advice I can get, because I really like how it looks.

@I’LL TALK- Aww..thanks and how have you’ve been?

@IJM- Forgive me for having a slow moment, because in your gravi name it clearly reads “expecting”..Congradulations! are you going to do natural childbirth? or some pain med to help a little?

@Ms.EJ

“Has anyone gotten a rinse? My friend got a jet black hair rinse. I also seen a woman online with the same color rinse and it looked real nice. I would like to try it myself, but am afraid that it will change the texture of my hair.”

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The key to coloring your hair is to avoid using ingredients that are too harsh and to moisturize, which you already have down pat. And if you are going two shades darker or lighter than your natural hair color, get thee to a stylist. You do NOT want to have to deal with color correction processing. My hair is not relaxed, but it is colored and I deep condition every week. It is key to making your color last and keeping your hair healthy. Try it. It can be fun!

@2SWEET
THANKS FOR INFO. I BET MOST OF THEM AFRICANS AREN’T LICENSED THOUGH AND R ILLEGAL ALIENS.

Thanks for the info. Sydney!! I live in PG and work in DC, so any of these places would be fine.

@beyiocth please: LOL I see someone needs to pick up a book,travel more or engage with ppl of different cultures/ethnic backgrounds because obviously you appear to think that all Hispanics are non-black or white looking LOL.

We come in all shades with an array of features & I never once stated I wasn’t black but it’s funny of random cyber beings that no nothing about the next blogger wanna get on here & tell others where they’re from,like wtf? LOL

Like I said,I’ll be waiting on that plane ticket to Africa.

yes this a big thin in BK too, but i can tell any mo’fu**ka that AIN’T NO DOMINCANO TOUCHIN’ MY HEAD!!!!!! SIMPLE N’ PLAIN!!!!! IF MY HAIR BREAKS ON IT’S OWN N’ I HAVE 1 MAIN HAIR DRESSER (2 OTHER EQUALLY TALLENTED ON THE SIDE), WHAT IN TARNATIONS MAKES ME THINK THAT A DOMINICAN HAIR DRESSER WON’T JACK MY PRETTY HAIR UP!!!!???? HELLLLL NOOOO AIN’T HAPPENIN’…I’LL STICK 2 THE NI**AZ ON THIS TOPIC….I LOVE MY HAIR N’ AIN’T NO1 KNOWS A NI**AZ HAIR LIKE A FU**IN’ NI**A!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ I’ll Talk

Thank you

I go to both. I go to my Black salon for my major stuff like a relaxer, color, cuts and to the Dominicans for just a wash and set. I do this because the Dominicans are cheaper than my salon for a wash and set just $25 where at my salon its $40, and i do not get a relaxer often and this keeps my hair straighter longer for cheap. Although the Dominicans leave my hair nice and flowy, I love my black hairstylist and will never abandon her services because she does a wonderdful job and knows how to style and cut better than the Dominicans.

I feel that people should do what they think is best for their hair type. Good hair is healthy hair regardless if you go to a Black hair salon or to Dominican salons, just keep your hair healthy.

@THE LADIES- Thank you all for the information for the hair rinse. I will definitely try and seek out the right product for the rinse and stylist.

@BUTTERSCOTH- I found a natural haircare salon in Georgia, but it is so far. I did ask a young lady a few weeks about her hair color and her stylist is natural and not too far. Thanks girly.

@education is key: I’m repping my country Honduras.

I’m proud they made it there & truly hope they get far

Umfufu please!

i worked with a big ugly white cuban who was living with a black american man for years. i asked when they would be getting married, and she looked at me like i was crazy and said, she wasn’t marrying HIM and didn’t want no nappy head babies.

ssssssssssss
5/13/10, 16:23:pm
@ education is key……hit the books again, cause they are not making braiders get lisenced.
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Yes they are. There are some states requiring braiders to get licensed. There is a big fight about it to because many believe they don’t need to spend the money to get a cosmetology license when they don’t need it.

@DC_Luv19

“I feel that people should do what they think is best for their hair type. Good hair is healthy hair regardless if you go to a Black hair salon or to Dominican salons, just keep your hair healthy.”

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I agree! Very wise words.

Black Americans need to develop some loyalty and start sticking with their own kind for a change. I don’t care what these Dominicans look like we should not give themm all our money.

Hey IJM

@Ms. EJ

Do you buy your coconut oil at GNC?

@Awww

“Hey, how about the scene where the Indian women at the temple were having their heads shaved completely oblivious to the fact that the hair was being sold to the American weave industry. Isn’t that obscene? Conscienceless deception under the guise of spiritual humility.”

Yes, I recall that scene well, and I thought it was powerful. I also was struck by the scene when the Asian beauty supply store owner rejected an offer of African-American hair extensions from Rock because she said they were too coarse (or did she call them “nappy?”) and undesirable.

I thought the film was very interesting, but, to me, it missed an important examination into why some sisters feel compelled to invest hundreds of dollars in extensions and other hair services that are potentially damaging to their tresses (I’ve thought about my own use of relaxers, for example, and I’m now attempting to wean myself off them). I think many of us have a very intricate relationship with our hair – it is an integral part of us and our identity. We recall our mothers braiding our hair into cornrows or using a straightening comb when we were younger. We recall when we first started relaxing our hair or when we decided to allow our hair to grow naturally. A lot of bonding can occur among sisters over what is on top of our heads, and I’m unsure if anyone, other than a black woman, can truly understand that concept. Some of us have also had to deal with external messages that tell us that our hair is different, and because it is different, it is not as beautiful. I’m not sure the deeper psychology behind hair – which is considered a symbol of beauty – was explored as fully as it could have been in “Good Hair,” but perhaps that’s fodder for another documentary, IMHO.

LOL @ Glok!

@education is key
5/13/10, 16:29:pm

i worked with a big fat azz ugly arab who had black men cutting themselves over her!!! said she didnt want no black babies either.

@using our black american men
5/13/10, 16:36:pm

i worked with a big ugly white cuban who was living with a black american man for years. i asked when they would be getting married, and she looked at me like i was crazy and said, she wasn’t marrying HIM and didn’t want no nappy head babies
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I don’t know why but this is the funniest shyt I have read all day….LOL I guess because I know it is true…they know that with certain black men they will be taken care of…but they don’t want to deal with the skin color and hair texture their children may have….that is sad…

@ssssssssssss

I don’t mind paying for good service, but when you go in at 8AM and you don’t leave until 3PM or 4PM. That’s a problem. So I agree with you on all the overbooking. I was fortunate to be able to go during the week when everyone was at work and even then with all the chit chat it took forever to get out of there.

It’s a trade off though because the black salon was closer to my neighborhood than the Dominican salon so I have to drive further.

@ Mock

Ohh too far away. 1/18/11. I just got pregnant-LOL. I wish i didn’t find out yet cause this is going to be a long one, but then again I am glad i did so I could put those cigarettes down.

@ EJ

It is okay! LOL! you know i have had my random countdowns in my S/N. How could you have known the difference. LOL!

@ Realist

Oh LOL! I was about to say…hubby ain’t playing with the mess LOL! I am excited though. My daughter is 7 so it has been a long time.

@Just Sit and Be Pretty

“Thanks for the info. Sydney!! I live in PG and work in DC, so any of these places would be fine.”

Sure, girl! There’s a lot of info online about different salons in the DMV, so it’s easy to do research and find out which salons/stylists are considered better than others.

The other salon mentioned in the WSJ article — Hair Company — is also in PG, I think. I haven’t visited that one yet, but there are reviews about it on roundbrushhair.com.

I found this forum called Hairlista recently where sisters swap a lot of hair tips as well.

@ IJM : YOU ARE WELCOME.

@ MOCK ROCK : YOU ARE WELCOME.

@ M.S. E.J. : I`m cool . I like how on payday I`m all up on this blog ! Sumthin wrong with me today ! LOL

@ME
No problem. I hear U on how some black women won’t even greet U…but sometimes that tends to be the younger ones. The older ladies who usually own the place are nicer (or they were nicer). Sometimes it seems as if black women are intimidated by other black women and their defense mechanism is to be rude…too bad. Anyway, good bye ladies and any gentlemen in here I’m off work

@SYDNEY- I had only found it online, but now that I know I can get it from one of the few organic stores in my area will buy from there. I got a large size, so, it will last a while.

I live in Baltimore I go to Julia’s Dominican salon she is very professional. I have been going to her for about 5 years and never had a bad experience. She told me to stop getting relaxers because it is damaging my hair and my hair is down my back now. My experience with her salon has been better then any black salon.

ALEXIWAQ, LOOK HERE WOMAN WHY YOU ANALYZING ALL HAVE FUN AND I THANK YOU ..I GUESS..JUST THE OTHER DAY YOU SAID I WAS A JACKAZZ AND DIDNT KNOW CHIT ….DISSERTATION,… NO, I DONT KNOW WHAT IT IZ,.. AND TOO HIGH TO LOOK IT UP…OK PEEP TIS MA, I ASK YOU,… CAN I WRITE A DISSERTATON ON YOU,… USING BODY FLUIDS!

@Ms. EJ

“@SYDNEY- I had only found it online, but now that I know I can get it from one of the few organic stores in my area will buy from there. I got a large size, so, it will last a while.”

Thanks, girl. My stylist recommended that I start taking vitamins for my hair, skin, and nails, so I’ve been taking biotin and fish oil twice a day for the past few months, and I bought them at GNC.

I support both business. My Dominican hairdresser I’ve been going to since I was 4or5 (23 now)and my black hair dresser I’ve been going to since high school… They have different purposes for me. When I need my hair blown out and maintained in that kind of way I go see dominicans. When I need tracks, trim, or relaxer I see the black hairdresser. When my hair is in total need of emergency I go to my black hair dresser, and when I need a quick fix I see the dominican one. To he honest there is only so much a round brush, dryer, and a deep conditioner can fix lol. Sometimes you gotta go back to your black hair dresser to work magic on your head. For instance, you go thru stress and your hair breaks off and ur prom or wedding or some kinda big event is coming up..I mean the dominican hairdresser can do all the treatments she wants but she cant make it grow back instantaneously. On the other hand you can go to the black hair dresser for the problem and she can cut and style ur little broken pieces of hair and put some oil sheen on till it look like something..because its the creativity and experience they have with dealing with stuff like that..and at last resort sew some tracks in.

Bye Mock Rock Star! Congrats on the baby!

@Glok and @Be For Real
I told you n!ccaz someone sent that thing to me – I don’t read the TORAH – I only read history books and I can list the books I’ve read.. I got all the TORAH information from you and BLUEKID but I’m doing my research now with my boy.. He was the one that forward the information to me – I don’t write like that…

I’ll repeat, I don’t hate DOMINICANS – but I could care less about them because most of them don’t want to be black when it’s obvious that they’re BLACK.. If you’ve got a problem with that – that’s your prerogative son.. Just leave Sunday out of this brah, I’m on to the next one… I ain’t scared of you DOMINICAN n!ccaz but don’t ever call my BLACK PEOPLE BROKE.. That’s it!!

Realist….

I’m about to start this hour and a half commute…I will have to figure out a way to get my email address to you so that we can network….

@I’LL TALK- LOL.

@CHOCOLATEDELUX1- Hello…your dog is so cute! is it a chow? girl or boy?

Somali Ninga
5/13/10, 13:59:pm
Blacks need to step their game! You let asians take over YOUR hair industry and now Dominicans are cashing in on it too. The only people black salons should blame is themselves!

That would seem to be the answer for most races, but not us blacks, we are trained from the time that we are little kids to ask for handouts, complain about the situation and never do anything about it. Also to blame our plight on others. I SAY, that if Asians are selling us the products, we should find out where they get it from and buy it ouselves at a discount. If Dominicans are useing techniques that are unknown to us, we need to learn their techniques in order to be able to offer the same or better services than they do. The Article states that one owner has been in the business for over 20 years. Meanwhile she is useing the same fomula for her business that she was useing 20 years ago. Competition recognizes this and crushes you for that reason alone, yet there are many more reasons that we can’t thrive in an industry that should 100% belong to our people for our people. WAKE UP!!!!!!!

All hell is about to break lose with this because NOW, some states are making the requirements much harder for Black salons. Some states are saying that you have to have a license AND a college degree to open up a salon, even to do braids. African American owners were trying to make it more difficult for the Dominicans, but I got a feeling it’s going to backfire for a lot of AA salons.

@SYDNEY- I take Biotin, too!…I must admit I’ve slacked off last month, but getting back to it.

@Ms EJ it all depends on your hair really. As you know what may work for some may not for others. My personal favorite is Adore. You can buy them from nearly any BSS. Sebastian is another good one, but may be harder to find. One that I absolutely do not like is the Clairol Beautiful Collection. Both times I used it (I used two different colors) it left my hair feeling stiff.

@I’m Just Me: Keeping It Real Since: 1983…EXPECTING….

LMAO @ your husband – tell him the realist said: what’s popping dozzy??

REALIST!
IMMA DEAD IT BROTHA ..BUT BEFORE YOU GO PLUCKING CHIT OUT OTHER PPL EYE,.. CHECK YOURN 1ST!

@2SWEET- True. Also, I heard the same about Clairol. Thank you very much.

almost all these new foreign businesses r fueled by drug money. that is the major reason u should not partronize them. they bring crime, madness and mayhem. so that few dollars u save wont be worth it when u have to flee your neighborhood.

@Here to share knowledge, not argue….
Ok sister, we’ll network; share the gwop; share the fun; share knowledge; and we’ll never argue about a damn thang.. Be safe and stay black!!

@Realist

OK. Maybe you did say that but you also said your post, your comment was YOUR THEORY. The comment that YOU said “this is my theory,” was copied and it was a long paragraph from another writer’s blog, a blog that I read. You were claiming the post as your words. Next time, just site someone elses words or don’t try and make it seem like it is your theory.

I’m out, have a good one, all!

Everyone have a blessed day! *exits*

@Glok.. Im such a… Ma Phukka!!
Yo son, I ain’t got no problems with you – you’re the one making an issue out of something that ain’t even worth it.. It’s cool brah!!

Dominicans stand up!!! I’m so proud of my fellow Dominicanas making headlines. I’ve been to both Black american and Dominican salons and Dominicans just do it better. Dominican salons use better products and they are more about hair growth, health, and they provide better customer service.

I’m Dominican, Jamaician, and Puerto Rican myself and I have hair that is very kinky. Very few Black salons know how to do hair they only do relaxers, color, weave, lacefronts. They are so quick to relax and cut. Not to mention, many Black stylist are only in it for porfit they don’t care for the health of your hair. A lot stylist at Black salons are very jealous and like intentionally sabatoge peoples hair.

I used to go to a lady in PG maryland they would call Pocahantas because she had “long” hair(her hair was to her bra straps, thats not long). She would purposely make sure that none of her clients had hair longer than hers.

The Dominican ladies know how to treat natural hair and my hair is looking way better than it did before. They aren’t scissor happy either.

African American + Dominican = Black. If both played their cards right and teamed up could master the hair business. Join together stop hatin on each other. Thanks LadyNubia 8 for that recipe!

@Be For Real
How do you cite a copy and paste information when you already had a disclaimer??? Are you educated??? The disclaimer shows that the whole article ain’t mine – get a job if you ain’t got something to do with yourself brah.. I ain’t got time for time wasters!!

Awwe yea. We will split that wig down!! My ish stay straight as a bone. I’M DOMINICAN BABY!

@ Ms.EJ Thank you she is a pomeranian.

SORRY PPL, BUT WHAT JACOSTA SAID WAS PRECISE!!!! DEAD ON THE MONEY!!!!

AND IMM SAY SO WE CLEAR IN HERE ,..I LOVE MY PPL …THAT CONSIST OF THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL AND THE CONTAIN …AA BLK PPL, WEST INDIAN ,DOMINICAN,MEXICAN,PUERTO RICAN,HAITIAN.NATIVE AMERICANS …PHUK WHITE PPL YOU AINT NEVER HEARD IN IN THIS BYTCH ALL MY 2 YRZ APOLOGIZE TO NO HONKIE OR DEFENDED THEM ..THATZ ME …IMA GLOK ..AND I BUST SHOTS …THATZ WHAT DO I KEEP IT 1 HUNNID!..WE MAY HAVE SOME IN OUR TRIBE WHITES..BUTUNDERSTAND YOU CANT GET BLK FROM WHITE ..BUT YOU CAN GET WHITE FROM BLK…BUT THEY STILL FAMILY IF THEY CAME OUT THE BLK MAN P.E.N.I.S!

YOU WONT EVER HEAR GLOK SAYING SORRY TO NO CRAKA,.. NICE DAY OR BAD DAY ,..PHUK THEM!

@Realist

How do you cite a copy and paste information when you already had a disclaimer??? Are you educated??? The disclaimer shows that the whole article ain’t mine – get a job if you ain’t got something to do with yourself brah.. I ain’t got time for time wasters!!
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Why did you say THIS MY THEORY then?

@Be For Real
That was the way the thing was sent to me – I copied and pasted it and I made a disclaimer that It ain’t mine.. What else do you want dozzy???? Blood or my life??? Can you read at all?? I wonder how you got the internet access you use because you sound dumber than a rock **no disrespect to rocks***… Get a life!!

BE FOR REAL
DEAD IT, LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING …ARE YOU A FEMALE? !

@Glok.. Im such a… Ma Phukka!!
Yeah, we good son!!

More sistas should go straight to that barber shop and get a lot of that mess they call hair cut off their head.

Just be done with a lot of that foolishness some of them got going on.

@ReALiSt

Ck out lil positivity post bro

Black owned salons don’t give their customers the attention that the Dominicans offer, and African run barbershop are more reliable than Black American shops

It’s funny how people talk on here talk about, charging too much for getting your hair done. Do you know how much it cost to operate a business? My Grandmother owned a shop for years, and I tell you all one thing people expect miracles. You can’t have healthy hair if you’re not taking care of it at home, and using all the wrong products. A stylist can tell what you are doing with hair just by looking at it, the same rule applies for the skin.

All that heat that Dominican’s use to style hair is waaaay too much and will cause nothing but damage to the hair. The same goes for using cheap products if you want healthy managable hair you have to use good products.

I abandoned my black stylist years ago and when I did my hair was falling out with one side being longer than the other, and even though I arrived on time for my appointments, I always had to wait at least 1.5 hrs for my stylist to get started on my hair! My Dominicana stylist is the BEST! No appointments, first come first served. No long waits. The goal is to get you in and out because there are many clients waiting. My hair is now down the middle of my back, healthy, and gorgeous. I sit under the dryer with my rollers and then only get my roots blown out and my relaxer lasts for more than 6 weeks whereas the black stylist had me looking like I never had one at 4 weeks. It’s cheap enough for me to get a WEEKLY wash, set, and deep conditioner. Women have stopped me to ask where I get my hair done and I direct them to my stylist without hesitating! Black stylists are a thing of the past!

@Realist

Whatever you want to say. Your theory my azz

@Glokn

I’m a dude.

Also, I forgot to add that not all Dominican stylist or salons are equal. You have to find the right one. I sure did!

dominicans are black, so african american stylists cant use that as an excuse. the bottom line is the dominican processes, time management, products and approach to afro hair is just superior. real talk.

@Keep it Real
Thanks brah!!

@Be For Real
Do you even understand English??? Disclaimer means it ain’t mine – what else do you want sissy??

Going to a Black stylist was possibly the worst thing for my hair. The shops were always unkempt and the stylists – no matter where I went – seemed to have limited knowledge on how to actually deal with hair. The focus was on making it as STRAIGHT as possible…but I just wanted it as HEALTHY as possible. None of them were educated on the health or maintenance of hair; it was more like styling (which I always hated because I didn’t like being nearly choked with hairspray or having hair that could serve as a helmet when I walked out). It’s been 2 and a half years; I just take care of my hair my damn self and its much healthier. As a plus I don’t have to deal with loud and ignorant folks.

If a Dominican (whose likely Black anyway) can keep the hair healthy and do it with more convenience I don’t see a problem.

Black owned hair salons are very expensive to begin with. Secondly, there is not a lot going on with the way they treat their customers.When you walk into a black owned hair salon, the owner or the hair-stylists do not make an effort to greet you. It’s all about making money unlike the Dominicans salons who charges $20.00 for a wash and blow, not to mention free deep condition on certain days.

Well I go to both….. When my main girl is to busy I go to the Doobie shop, 1 thing and 1 thing for sure there is no way any Doobie shop in this world is doing my short hair cuts…. When I do go short… My african american sister gets down…. So with that said they both benefit me

hello? do black salons use canela, keratin, silk amino acids, marine products, honey,yogurt on your hair? i think not. until american salons promote healthy hair practices dominicans will continue to dominate the industry. i think of the dominican process as returning back to the basics. theyuse superior products that may or may not be household names here in the states. whatever.

BE FOR REAL!
IGHT CUZZIN…IM NOT SHOCKED THEN …I MOSTLY HEAR SISTA TAKING ABOUT COMING INTO THE KNOWLEDGE …AND I GOT WHAT YOU SAID IN THE OTHER THREAD ,..ANYTIME! ,..CUZ AS BLK MEN WE NEED THIS WISDOM TO SUCCEED …WELCOME ON BOARD, THIS JOURNEY IZ GOING TO MAKE SENSE ANDS ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU NEED BROTHA!

@Realist

Of course it ain’t yours. THIS IS MY THEORY was not written by the author when the Hebrew Israelites was talked about on the blog. It was added by you in your comment.

ALL THE SISTAz I TOOK TO NILA’S IN HARLEN TELL THEY FRIENDS AND THEY TELL THEY FRIENDS TIL, ..I GET SOME CHIC’S HAIR DONE ON THE HOUSE, FREE! ,.WHY CUZ THEM DOMINICANS MAMI’S LOOOVE THEM SOME GLOK….I LOOOVE THEM BACK ..WHY CUZ THEY BLK LIKE ME!
AND I LOVE ME!

@Glok

AND I GOT WHAT YOU SAID IN THE OTHER THREAD ,..ANYTIME! ,..CUZ AS BLK MEN WE NEED THIS WISDOM TO SUCCEED …WELCOME ON BOARD, THIS JOURNEY IZ GOING TO MAKE SENSE ANDS ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS YOU NEED BROTHA!
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Thanks bruthah. I Apprecitate that. If I see you on here and I have a question, I will definitely ask away. Thanks for sharing what you know and find. Peace man.

I SAY TO EACH HIS OWN..GO WHERE YOU GET YOUR MONEY WORTH AND GOOD SERVICE. STOP THE CRYING IF YOU CAN’T BEAT THEM JOIN THEN! AT LEAST WE HAVE CHOICES!!!

LMAO@ OTHELLO, TELLEM… COULDNT HAVE SAID IT IN BIG CAPZ BETTER DAMN MYSELF!

LOL…. Instead of whining about competition, step your game up! Who says that I have to be loyal to Black salons because I’m Black. BS…. Dominicans are more knowledgeable about hair and you can’t beat their prices. If Black salons were so great at what they do, then Dominicans wouldn’t have any room to straight takeover the market.

@ eltiguereinNYC – Seriously, NO ONE gives a damn about that little history lesson right there. Whether you like it or not, most people WILL look at Dominicans as being BLACK! Get over it. SMH….

BE FOR REAL!
ANYTIME ..AND LIKE I SAID I THINK I KNOW THE PERSON WHO BLOG THAT WORD FOR WORD ..SHALOM BRO!

LOOK AT THE MAP!!! YOU F*CKING WEIRDOS !!! WE ARE ONE PEOPLE !!!

wysinger.homestead.com/mapofafricadiaspora2.html

^
COPY AND PASTE, FOR YOU COMPUTER ILLITERATE MOTHERF*KERS.

PEACE TO THE AFRICAN DIASPORA WORLD WIDE!!! STAND THE F*CK UP, WAKE THE F*CK UP, AND STOP BEING SO F*CKING IGNORANT!!!!

@Be For Real
Stop sweating me – I told you someone sent it to me – I don’t know about the post..I just read it and posted it for glok with a “disclaimer”(meaning it ain’t mine)… Are you on your period??????

Here’s a solution: learn to do your own hair. No one knows your hair better than you. Read, investigate, and spend a little more money on better hair care products (and FYI, some of the best hair care products for Black women are actually White products.)
I’ve been doing my own hair since 2000 and I’ve been natural since 2005. I got tired of the hard or greasy look that I got in the salons and the “scissor-happy” stylists. I even trim my ends myself. My hair is healthy and down to my shoulder blades (and this is after cutting it to shoulder-length on ’07).

@othello
You’re a fool! Even Steve Wonder knows that DOMINICANS are black but what happens when most DOMINICANS don’t see themselves as blacks??? That ain’t my prerogative – it’s theirs to get their ignorant a$$es off the BS and read a book about their history..

@othello

Keep posting the truth!

Nappy Haired Dominicans are the hair perming, skin whitening masters of the world.

I dont pay any attention to anything hite folks say.. Tyra had a show on black hair and there was a white woman ( of cours) who had a interacial daughter and she put weave in her 8 year old daughters have! im not understanding because she said its easier to mange instead of putting ponytails in her hair .. WTF! bytch that what you get when you sleep with a blakc man and bredd a mixed kid… betcha her white azz wont say sh-t else about blakc women and weave!! White women are so damn stupid .. who looks for the easy way out!! smdh!!

Dominicans charge less because most of them are illegal and do not have a license to do hair. But the A. American stylish need to be most cost conscience in this economy or they will lose out.

@Glok
Did you read @eltiguereinNYC comment? The same people you’re dissing black people for just said they’re not black – what’re you going to say now???? Do you even live in NY??? If you live in NY, you should that they don’t like being called black… Maybe, you need to come to NY and read more books about DOMINICANS bro..

I’m saying, the ignorance really has to stop. This divide and conquer social polarization sh*t is getting ridiculous…and obvious.

………………..

Who are you?..
You don’t know?..
Don’t tell me Negro..
That’s nothing..
What were you before the white man named you a negro?..
And where were you?..
And what did you have?..
What was yours?..
And what language did you speak back then?..
What was your name?..
It couldn’t have been Smith or Jones
That wasn’t your name..
They don’t have those kind of names where you and i came from..
No, what was your name?..
And why don’t you now know what your name was then?..
Where did it go?..
Where did you lose it?..
Who took it?..
And how did he take it?..
What tongue did you speak?..
How did a man take your tongue?..
Where is your history?..
How did the man wipe out your history?..
What did the man do to make you as dumb, as you are right now?..

- El-Hajj Malik El-Shabazz (Malcolm X)

Dominicans like to call themselves mixed or mulatto but to be mixed or mulatto your parents have to be of different races. Most of the nappy haired , dark complexioned Dominicans I see do not have parents of two races. It doesn’t matter what they call themselves because society, white people don’t see nationality they see color and so do Dominicans because they are extremely color struck in that society.

@NADAL

Another ho who needs to sit down…race is a concept created by white folks to divide, subjugate, and conquer…what are you smoking?

WHO TAUGHT YOU TO HATE YOURSELF?

I’m out, ignorance pisses me off. You can get an MIT education for free* and motherf*ckers are still running around all ignorant and sh*t. smfh.

peace to all the positive, education to the ignorant.

*ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/home/home/index.htm

Why is Wall Street Journal and the other East coast rags printing stories about this in the first place? They don’t care about African American and Dominican nappy hair they just trying to start some mess. I don’t trust them. This story has no business being in white papers if there is a problem let the African American and Dominican press take it up.

Where do these hair products come from the United States? Do black or white companies make them.

Well i have a black girl that blows me out and i have been to the dominicans to do the same thing. I dont think your hair will break or fall out if you DONT PERM IT in the first place. Therefore my hair can withstand the heat when they do. My Black girl is just as good as the domicans and i go to her more freaquently because she is quicker. The domincans told me not to bring my arse in there on a saturday when they busy because of all my hair and no perm. LOL, but it always looks good no matter who does it and you would SWEAR i just got a fresh perm. CATCH UP BLACK WOMENZ!!!

@Suspicious
5/13/10, 19:04:pm

Why is Wall Street Journal and the other East coast rags printing stories about this in the first place? They don’t care about African American and Dominican nappy hair they just trying to start some mess. I don’t trust them. This story has no business being in white papers if there is a problem let the African American and Dominican press take it up.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
GO TO THE link —

$1.67 BILLION (I believe) in ethnic hair care products (the majority sold to african-americans) in a DOWN economy, on ONE year.

Don’t be surprised if in the next few years there will be an article titled

“Sistas Angry With Becky for Taking Over the Salons in the Hood”.

It’s about the MONEY — and close to two billion dollars per year is REAL money — made from a CAPTIVE market.

90% AA ARE ON WELFARE, IN JAIL, BABY MAMAS ON WELFARE, MAKE UP EXCUSES, DONT’T EVEN HAVE A HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMA CAN’T READ, WRITE, THEY HATE ALL IMMIGRANTS BECAUSE WE ARE HARD WORKERS, COME TO THEIR COUNTRY WORK OUR AZZES OFF,AND TAKE CARE OF THINGS INSTEAD OF RELYING ON THAT GOVERNMENT CHEESE LOL
STOP HATING, START WORKING YEAH GET A F**KING JOB
YOU PPL ARE PATHETIC I AM GLAD YOU’RE LOSING TO THE DOMINICANS CAUSE THAT’S WHAT YOU ARE LOSERS

Can someone tell me where a Cheap Dominican shop is in Chicago??? I went to NY and paid $40 to get my hair and my friend’s hair done and she got a perm… NEVER EVER again will I pay black salon prices. I go to a hair school now until I find me a dominican shop to go to… black salons, drop your prices and step ur game up, or kick rocks. I refuse to feel sorry for the shops that had me sitting for hours on end and charging me over $50 a pop.

CHI- TON NEXT TIME YOU COME TO N.Y GO TO THE HAIR SALON IN HARLEM …ON 148 ST NICK AVE …ASK FOR NILA’S ITS HER SHOP TELL HER A CAT NAME GEE FROM ACROSS THE STREET SENT YOU THEY WONT NO ME AS GLOK! THEY WILL HOOK YOUR CHIT UP!

All you nappy haired Americans and nappy haired Dominicans need to know that this is all about the money. There is only so much to go around and the best price wins the customers.

Is this really even a topic? Im going home for the day. Good night, all.

I’VE SEEN SOME HAIRSTYLES ON SOME AA WOMEN LMAO THAT’S ALL I AM GOING TO SAY I MEAN REALLY ARE THESE WOMEN SERIOUS

GO TO THE DOMINICANS MUCH HEALTHIER

@Glok
She just said DOMINICANS ain’t black.

@ eltiguereinNYC

Your culo is still on here? You want to talk this and that about your culture on a “black” site and think you won’t get clowned on? Puta, please! Sit down and shut up or just get the f u c k out with that mess. Self-hating ho. “Black” people aren’t checking for your culo anyway so stop sweatin’ before your blow-out turns nappy.

@Ho, sit down
+++++++++++++
“The business of America is BUSINESS”.

AAs control close to a TRILLION dollars
is dispoable income — we can spend it
wisely — more importantly save and invest
a good portion of it wisely, or squander
it foolishly.

Either way, don’t blame others for being happy to sell to us to enrich themselves — it’s
OUR choice as to how we spend that trilion dollars.

I’m not interested in a woman that has no ability to MANAGE (as opposed to SPEND) money — I don’t give a $h@t what color she is.

eltiguereinNYC
5/13/10, 19:36:pm
I can’t help but laugh at people tryin to school me about MY culture. I am fully aware that MY people have african descendants, but as I clearly said before, we do not identify as being black cuz we do not all look fully black. The majority of us are not black. Have some of u people even been around groups of dominicans? i’m starting to think most of u don’t even know how a dominican looks. Anyone who’s familiar with the yankees, (ex. alex rodriguez) would know that most of us look like him and even lighter. When u look at him u do not see a BLACK man, u see a latino. Just like PRs, cubans, etc…there are dark skinned groups but the majority of us do not look straight up black, u can clearly identify us as bein latinos, while some of u are saying there’s no difference and that we are all “black.”
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its painfully obvious you DONT know ur culture. sad! i could get into the sematics of it but really what would be the point

@Glok

Ha ha ha I’m glad you didn’t take offense! You’re welcome to LI anytime. It is quite a trip but it’s worth it I can show you around my ‘hood too…shoot. :-p

I live in NYC and go to both Dominican salons and have a regular Black hairdresser that I go to for my relaxers and colors, because in my opinion, Dominicans cannot do all Black women’s hair. They are cheaper, they get you out somewhat faster, but not all Black women need to go there depending on their texture. Why pay $50 when I can go to the salon around the corner from my crib and get a wash and set for no more than $15 and my hair comes out banging?! On the flip side, I find many Dominicans to be very prejudiced and inexperienced. They often refer to Black hair as “pelo mal”, which means bad hair in english and have very poor customer service skills. However, what they lack in service, they make up for it in price and time. It looks like the Black salons need to step their game up and learn some new strategies! Black ppl in general are so accepting of everyone, but everyone is not so accepting of us, so that is something to think about! Start charging reasonable prices and maybe Black salons can flourish.

What does straight up black look like Seal? Akon? You sound like a fool. I have talked to Dominicans who will list a thousand different races that they are a part of when they have big lips, big noses, nappy hair and dark skinned. LOL!!! Arod-calls himself mixed to be more like Derek Jeter. When I look at Arod I see a man with mixed ancestry but I do’nt see a Latino unless he tells me he is. David Ortiz, Manny and most of the dark skinned Dominicans don’t look latino and society doesn’t see their country they see their skin tone. And all of the black Cubans in this country like Laz Alonso look black to me. A lot of Dominicans are darker and have nappier hair than a lot of black people in America. There is no such thing as a black look unless you are talking about black Africans.

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With all lof the hoopla in the mainstream media about black women lately (why we can’t find a man, why we are taking care of our parents, why we are raising children alone, why this, why that) I’m on the fence about Dominican salons. I DO know, however, that me and my daughter have a hard time finding a beautician that can really do our hair. I bought some of that Kinky Kurly for my daughter, who at 16 still cries when she gets a relaxer, but I felt like I had to because no one knew how to straighten her curly hair without relaxing it, sometimes twice over the same hair.

I’m trying to gain some knowledge on here from people, but the whole conversation has turned into another ethnic cleansing diatribe.

Most black people in American are prejudiced against Dominicans too and think they are all poverty-stricken and stupid with zero status in America. Dominicans have just as much “pelo mal” hair as we do. It is not a feather in anybody’s cap to be Dominican.

My Dominican sisters hook my hair up and they charge less and my hair is healthy. If you look at the majority of the sisters hair who are styling and getting styled most have a healthy head of hair. I have never seen too many Dominican sisters with broken dry or jacked up hair. That speaks for itself half of them have black hair. Nor have I seen clients walk out with a jacked hair do, unless their hair was short because most can not style of do short hair like my black sisters. I agree that most can not style short hair, color or cut. You have to seek out the license stylist in the shop to perm color or cut but other than that I am extremely satisfied with my salon and my Dominican sisters.

DOMINICANS ARE GOOD AT PERMING NAPPY HAIR BECAUSE THEY HAVE MORE EXPERIENCE WITH THEIR OWN NAPPY HAIR. THEY ARE MOSTLY KITCHEN BEAUTICIANS.

Wow. Maybe its because I am based in NYC that I am not that surprised about it. In Brooklyn you can’t go a block without seeing a Dominican salon. I don’t use them but their offers and prices are cheaper than an African American spot in the borough. Its a grind out here. People need to be more aware that the society we live in asks for competition and more money.

Oh no you didn’t! Well, scratch that – my invitation has been rescinded! You’re right, LI gets no love. Have fun dodging them bullets, anyways…

BECUZ YOUR BLK SISTAZ LAZY AZZ USE LYE IN YOUR HAIR, AND IT PHUK IT UP AND EAT YOUR SCALP ..THATZ WHY THEM DOMINICANS SISTAZ PUT ALL KINDA COCONUT AND AU NATURALE ISLAND CHIT IN YOUR HAIR BLKWOMAN..I GOT A SISTA AND SHE BEEN GETTING HAIR CHIT DONE WITH THE DOMINICAN SISTA ,..I LOVE DOMINICAN SISTAZ, SOO PHUKKING EXOTICLY BLK LOOKING!

I stopped going to black hair stylists 10 years ago and went 100% natural with no relaxers. I only go to the Dominicans now to straighten my hair for only $20.

@Glok.. Im such a… Ma Phukka!!
I know you’re the lily chic on the lil positivity thread – what’s you smoking b!tc.h??? I don’t like cowards like you changing your name up and tryna to come at the realist – that’s typical of you harlem n!cca – you’ve a history producing snitches from Alpo to others – stay in you lane homie before I go BK on your a$$..

When you walk down the streets of Washington Heights and see the people you will not think Latin if you want to give Latin people a look. When I think Latin I think Penelope Cruz or white people from Latin America. Many of them don’t even look mulatto which they are quick to claim.

Count me ast one of blacks who will never go to a Dominican hair salon. They do not know how to put a relaxer in very coarse hair like mine because mine broke off thanks to them.

I know a Dominican girl who declares that she is German, Spanish, Irish, Indian and some other thing I don’t remember. Yet she is two shades darker than I am, her hair is kinky, though you would think with all those European ancestors living in her head, she would have either straight or wavy hair. And her eyes are pitch black. When I asked her if she ever took a genetics test she got mad and started hollering.

REALIST I CANT TYPE THAT WELL SON IM TOO PHUKKING HIGH ..AND PLUS I BEEN GLOK FOR 2YRS I NEVER ASK ANYBODY NEVER HAD TO SAY SOME THING TO YOU OR ANY PHUKKER IN HERE IN ANOTHER, EVEN WHEN I WAS BEING IMPOSTERED BY YOU I STAYED GLOK SON , STOP YOU ACTING REAL BYTCHY RIGHT NOW DONT LOK GOOD ….THE PHUK I NEED TO SAY THAT TO YOU IN SOME OTHER THREAD PPL ARE SEEING YOU AS A FRAUD AND FAKE ..I GUESS IM NOT THE ONLY ONE…I WONDER IF YOU CHICK SOMETIME !

Chi Town
5/13/10, 19:17:pm

I go to Julie/Mayra at Santo Domingo Salon, 3310 W Armitage Avenue, Chicago in Logan Square. Call for hours (773) 645-1701

who gives a f…. both of the salons are sellouts most african americans want their hair like white people african americans are major sellouts

Oh yes, I went natural 3 years ago and I’m not wedded to curly only because I might it have blown straight every other week. Plus AA stylists charge more for longer hair, silly because a good business should charge a flat rate based upon a solid analysis of their sales, cost of products, labor, and amortization etc. but I bet most of those salon owners wouldn’t know what an Excel spreadsheet looked like.

@Michele

What the hell do you know? Any color stylist (black, white, or brown) charges more based on the length – more time, more product, more effort are all used if you have more hair. I bet you wouldn’t know what it takes to run a business, dummy.

@Glok.. Im such a… Ma Phukka!!
It’s cool son! Time will tell who’s real or fake between us brother – I’ll never sell my people out son but you did today..

There are some serious ignorant comments on this board. The same way Americans are not white, Dominicans are not black. Being Dominican is a nationality, ethnicity and culture. However, it is not a race. If you must break it down: there are black dominicans, white dominicans, chinese dominicans, jewish dominicans and even arab dominicans and the majority of dominicans, who are a racial mixture of any of the above. Due to the significant racial mixing and comparably sized racial groups back in colonial times, the majority of Dominicans are have a decidely golden brown or red-brown skintone many people call “indio”. Since the majority of people are mixes to be “white” or “black” is not focused on. However, the DR do favor their spanish heritage above all else.

hahahahah this is funny man blacks rule yall don’t forget who the president is… Dominicans are getting alittle too happppy doing this mess doesn’t even require an education in the last 5 seconds about 5000 blacks have learned how to do this simple crap soo please.. Now everywhere you go you will see black salons doing this simple crap black people are extremely smart so be happy you are getting a couple of dollars… while these gurls sit in your salons they are stealing cake from babies and learning how to do it better than you.. While you charge the amount two tacos cost black and whites will be charging the amount you have to pay to get a steak…lol.. oooooh isnt that scary… Naw you just scared of whites who are stealing this crap…mmmuuuuhahaha go back to your third world country… I mean really didn’t you think it would happen what a fool you are…

I am an african american stylist and I must say that the dominicans work together and black stylist sometimes don’t. They team up and get the clients in and out and for half the cost of what african american stylist charge. I had to hire help and lower my prices to compete. In this economy everyone cannot afford hair services.

I have some friends who go to the Dominican shops but they do say it burns their hair out at times *shrug*

@Glok.. Im such a… Ma Phukka!!
F*ck you b!tc.h a$$ Harlem su.cker – I told you I never apologized to that white b!tc.h but you keep talking about it.. I’m a real dude – I got a condo in Miami and a house in Buffalo.. I’ve also got a house in Africa but they don’t even count – I don’t need to tell you about myself – I’m a real dude and I know my history.. F*ck you and the white b!tc.h – if you’re real come talk to me tomorrow in uptown harlem b!tc.h..

I meant i went to an AFRICAN AMERICAN hair salon for a wash and press and they charged me 70$

so i will definitely be looking in to the Dominican salons.

You all are arguing amongst yourselves. Those white people in Ft. Lauderdale C/R/A/I/G/S/L/I/S/T section are talking about starting a revolution on black folks down there. Those bammas don’t know how to squash that s/h/i/t though. Why don’t you go fight a real battle.

i fux with the Dominicans. They quick, efficient, cheap and get my natural afro bone straight. Black women be on that BULLSHT!

@Glok
Keep running your mouth b!tc.h a$$ n!cca – meet me at Ridgefield park tomorrow at 2.00pm – I’ll be there b!tc.h…. I know your b!tc.h a$$ ain’t gonna come through – albany a$$ n!cca claiming to be from Harlem – you ain’t got no Harlem swagga pu.ssy.. F*ck you Caribbean f@ggot – ba.ttyboi fi die yun dun noe..

Stop faking the funk pu.ssy – you’re a jamaican immigrant and you live at the Immigration centre in Albany – don’t go to Arizona because your f@ggot a$$ is gonna be sent back to Jamaica – you dirty a$$ Caribbean, sugarcane eating bum… You savages from Jamaican just run your bloodclat mouth but y’all ain’t chit and, you’ll never be chit – y’all will die of jealousy.. You su.ckers wanna be like us but you’ll never be.. Eat a d!ck f@ggot!!

I got a house in Africa b!tc.h – I get this money b!tc.h and, right now I’m getting paid as I talk you.. I get paid in my sleep b!t.ch – you’re so beneath me and, you’ll never be me b!tch.. You’re a fake a$$ fraud – if you think you know chit- come debate me tomorrow f@ggot…

Dominicans might be black but they are not Africans Americans and the article is saying “african americans” are loosing business if DR have their own community your money goes to them to “their community” not yours now I do believe in working “together” and learning from each other..

Two things:
It sounds like the only reason to go to a Dominican Salon is if you have natural hair. The blow-outs work best on ladies not addicted to “Creamy Crack”.

Here in Chicago, we have a lot of Egyptian Salons. Are the methods at Dominican Salons the same? Cause they claim to be African too. Yeah Egyptians you are Northern African, not the same!

switching what? I just signed on and you and that other dude take up this whole comment section…waste of space. my night’s just getting started (So Cal in the house!)

F*ck you n!cca and f*ck the white b!tc.h – I told you I didn’t apologize to no stupid a$$ b!tc.h.. My fault was that I didn’t curse that b!tc.h but why curse someone that already apologized for what she said??? F*ck you ignorant n!cca – I know you can’t read properly but just get someone to read my comment for you b!tc.h..Punk a$$ f@ggot!!

I’m through with my project – I’m off to bed b!tc.h a$$ fake Harlem wanna be n!cca… You’re from Albany b!tc.h – BK n!ccaz run NY – go ask your cousins that were born in NY – immigrants like you don’t know chit… Su.ck Magic Johnson’s d!ck b!tc.h and die slow of AIDS f@ggot..

It’s a lot of d@mn comments on here. We need to stop worshipping our d@mn hair anyway.

Not washing you hair for weeks at a time is disgusting. Tapping your head like a chimp due to the lack of water, is amusing.

@@ Realist

Realist I responded to you in “The Positivity” thread. You are bi-polar, and should take my advice and seek medical a.s$istance stat!

that was interesting. don’t forget jamaican hair salons! : D

@Lily

I do not get it. She was insulting black people in the thread that day and she does it often when she decides to post a comment. I do not understand how a Black Nationalist can give black men and women a piece of his mind everyday but not a white person when she insults him and his race. Hypocrisy at its finest. *sigh and SMH*

Gotta get some sleep. Have a good night or morning.

@@@ Tina

Have a good night. Peace and blessings.

@ Glok

Whatchu know bout LG? LOL. BedStuy
(Clinton Hill) right here.

Is hair everything?

I go to my regular black hairdresser for my perms and trims, in between my perms i go to the dominicans for a blowout or 2. The prices are def. different where as my hairdresser has gone up on her prices:just for a perm and wrap is now $65. thats $20 more then last year. while my blowout looking as if i have a perm is only $30….but i will stay going to my blck hair salon because she is the reason why my hair is so healthy now after 8 years of wearing weaves. & weaves dont mean bald. my hair has always been past shoulder length long weaves are just easier to manage.

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The real Latin people are the ITALIANS but due to Rome conquering oter European countries you can add others. France,Spain Portugal,even Romania are all part of the Latin culture. So technically anyone who speak French,Italian,Portuguese,Romanian should be considered Latin not just Spanish speakers.

DNA TEST SETS A LOT OF PPL STRAIGHT- I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS FROM COLLEGE FROM THE DR, CUBA, PANAMA-WE ALL CLAIM BLACK-HOWEVER SOME PARENTS DON’T-SO WE ALL GOT R DNA TEST-WE ALL AVERAGED 78%-93% AFRICAN-THE REST WAS WHITE ANCESTRY-SURPRISE NON OF THEM HAD “INDIAN BLOOD” EXCEPT THE 2 FROM AMERICA, ME & ANOTHER COLLEGE FRIEND. THE LIGHTEST ONE NICKI FROM THE DR HAD THE MOST AFRICAN BLOOD-WE ALL BLACK IN AMERICA-WE ALL COME FROM DIFFERENT CULTURES LETS CELEBRATE THAT & NOT LET STUFF DIVIDED US.

@ jocasta..trator? wow, that will lure people back into those black salons. typical black behavior, allways agressive.

DONT DO BUSINESS WITH PEOPLE WHO ONLY TAKE FROM YOUR COMMUNITY AND NEVER GIVE ANYTHING BACK. IF THEY WANT YOUR BUSINESS ASK THEM FOR A JOB, A DONATION, OR INSIST THEY LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

African-Americans support your own people.
After a while, if you keep supporting Dominican
salons, there will be no African-American salons.
When that happens, then you will complain about it. Sometime, we are our own worst enemy. These immigrants are here trying to take over, and we are helping them. Wake up people.

African-Americans support your own people.
After a while, if you keep supporting Dominican
salons, there will be no African-American salons.
When that happens, then you will complain about it. Sometime, we are our own worst enemy. These immigrants are taking over, and we are helping them. Wake up people.

Why do black women want Dominican people (particularly Dominican women) to know they are black so bad? Is it because they are another threat and you feel you are putting them in their place by saying they are black?

Just like most Hispanics with West African and Spanish ancestry – no matter the color or tone of their skin – Hispanic people have a superiority complex when it comes to black people in general – the women may have the same big hips/butts, nappy hair and dark skin, but they have culture and speak a different language.

The issues in the black community (re: good and bad hair; light skin/dark skin; poverty; education, etc.) are the same issues within the Caribbean, some Central American and South American Hispanic communities and I’ll say it again – what separates their community from ours is language and culture.

Please note that I’m not talking about Mexicans, Guatemalans, Peruvians, etc. where they are primarily Indians or mestizos who speak Spanish.

@Lily @Glok and @Tina
F*ck all you b!tc.hes!! I don’t give a f*ck about all you clowns – I never said I love white people – I said I love you sister… B!tc.h a$$ n!cca glok – I was just testing your Albany a$$ to see if you’re really from NY like your b!tc.h a$$ claim..

If you really want problems – I’ll be around Malcolm X ave,7th ave. and central park west today pu..ssy – let me bu.st your Jamaican a$$ and pour Jamaican rum on your b!tc.h a$$..

@lily
Your father is bi-polar b!tc.h – come su.ck my d!ck b!tc.h and lick these balls while I bust these nutz on your face…

@Neva
youre some friend

@purewhitetrash
why do crackas like you try to claim the entire white race when alot of them are progressive and want nothihng to do with you red neck ways?

dominican salon is the best…my hair is so much healthier becuz of it…i got so upset when i had to move and lost my girl in NYC…and this bull ish about ur hair falling out is so not true…just a bunch of hate!!

and it seems like the black salon always put way too much grease in my hair and charge too much…black salon needs to step there game up cuz i havent been to one that was good..there all terrible!!

I have natural hair, and i go every week. They are very effective, and I dont have to worry about my hair smelling burnt. $20 + Chisam Dominican Salon= Burd with lovely hair!

DOMINICANS ARE THE BEST AT DOING HAIR!! I DO MY HAIR MYSELF BUT FOR CUTS IM IN THERE! THEY BUILD YOUR HAIR UP AND IF YOU DONT LIKE THE WATERED DOWN SHAMPOO BRING YOUR OWN!!! AS LONG AS IT CLEANS MY HAIR ITS OK!

I have to say that I used to frequent the “American” salons and would come out in about 4 hours and out of pocket between $80 and $200 depending on what I had done. Once I moved back to VA from LA…which in VA the prices are up there too…between $50-$100 for just a wash and style, I headed to the Dominican Spot…$26, with an extra $10 for a deep conditioning treatment and my hair is bouncin, behavin and looking fab….AND i am in an out in less than an hour and a half and thats if there are other women there!

In my opinion, Dominicans are better in some cases because they actually work for the customer unlike most traditional African-American/Black salons where the stylists have bad attitudes and feel they can do whatever they want to the customer’s head. If you ask an African-American/Black stylist for a particular style she will spend an hour telling you what she feels you need. O-M-G we all know how they act when they want to cut your hair, it’s like they start to salivate. Just ask an African-American/Black stylist a serious question such as about hair loss and just listen to the response you will receive. I personally want my stylist to listen to me and not try to be my momma. Asians sell the beauty products, African’s & French do the African Braiding, and Dominicans are starting to dominate with the blowout and other styling because they have a different work ethic. These people are about doing their business and not worrying about the customer’s personal business and showing as lax work attitude.

Everybody I knew who went to Dominican stylists in the late 90′s/early 2000′s (when it first started becoming popular) used to have very long, healthy looking hair, but after a while it became thinned out, and eventually it started to look like they were losing their hair prematurely (just thinned out all over their scalp). & I live in Maryland, just fyi

But the domenicans must have gotten it together since then, judging by all the stories left in the comments

Maybe American Black hair salons will get their act together with the new competition. The professionalism is non existent. They wash your hair and then you sit atleast 3 hours or longer while they have booked 4 to 5 customers at the same time. Prices are unaffordable and the hair care is minimal. I feel their motto is “It is not about hair care it is all about the dollar.”

newsflash: dominicans are black!!

http://www.miamiherald.com/multimedia/news/afrolatin/part2/index.html

The word is “swifter” service. Who has time to go into a hair salon and spend 4 hours just to get a relaxer. African American stylist need to wake up and smell the coffee that today’s black educated women have other priorities in their lives and it does not include spending all day at a hair salon.

dominican hair salons pretty much cater to people with a certain hair type. also most hair salons are taken over by latin people. and just a side note… many dominicans and puerto ricans have the texture that most african americans do.

Ok why can’t people get there hair done where they want too? I’m sure the price difference is a big reason why people go to Dominicans. And for the Ignorant folks out there not all Dominicans don’t know how to cut and color. If you go to the $10 doubi spot thats what you gonna get a $10 cut. I have gone to all type of hair salons and the last Black salon I went to I walked out with my hair in a bun and they charged $65 for a wash and set! I go to the Dominican spot and my hair looks beautiful, and healthy. Stop hating when you know you go to the Dominican spots to hook up your hair too.

BLACKS WILL NEVER HAVE ANYTHING, DO YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE BLACKS LACK THE CAPABILITY TO SUPPORT THEIR OWN!!!

BLACKS CAN’T SUPPORT ANY BLACK BUSINESS.

MEANWHILE THE ASIANS AND DOMINICANS ARE LAUGHING ALL THE WAY TO THE BANK TAKING YOUR MONEY AND USING IT TO BENEFIT THEIR OWN PEOPLE!!!

AND YOU FOOLS CAN KEEP SAYING DOMINICANS ARE BLACK. MOST DOMINICANS WILL CUT YOU IF YOU TELL THEM THEY ARE BLACK. THEY DON’T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH BLACK PEOPLE SO KEEP SUPPORTING THEM IF YOU WANT. YOU AND YOUR COMMUNITY WILL LOSE AT THE END!!!

BLACK PEOPLE ARE SO RIDICULOUS!!!

@Tina
I repeat, I never said I like white people and every time I say I’m BK – it’s mos def a friday.. Just get off my nutz now – your head game chit and my b@lls are paining me now..

Not suprised. Dominicans are professional. They don’t sit on the job and eat lunch while you’re sitting there doing nothing for hours. They get the job done quickly (under an hour) and better. They also dont chop off your hair without asking permission first. Damn black stylists. You’re the reason I don’t go to black American stylists. No respect for people’s time.

@H0.mosexual White Man
F*ck you and all your mutant albino race!!

@ReALiSt AKA ReALeSt

I love those slurs that you call me.

Last night I was taking your Big Black C0.ck deep down my throat and you called me your “little white bytch boy”.

IT is a turn on so keep insulting me, I love it.

Your azz needs to come out of the closet, if you don’t I will pull you out of the closet.

You know you want to stick your tasty man treat in my little pink mouth again.

You get off on that don’t you? you big black co.ck contrasting next to my milky white skin.

IT is ok baby, just come out of the closet.

@ Shoeless joe jackson – yes we are AWARE that we are mixed with black. i myself am Dominican, my great grand mother was from Spain & my great grandfather was Haitian and that’s just my moms side. from my father’s my grandmother is Japenese and my grandfather is Dominican and he blacker than a mother! lol

We need some Dominican Salons in South Carolina. All these women down here are bald headed!!! lol.

I write about Dominican issues all the time and touched up on this one. Here’s my post on it

http://www.liveabovemediocrity.com/news/my-thoughts-on-the-wall-street-journal-article-on-dominican-hair-salons-and-black-hair-salons/

@118th street
thank you for speaking some truth. Alex Rodriguez and his ‘mixed’ comment was just bec. he was trying to be Jeter in every single way possible. Like a single white female copy.

In any case, I have read some truly interesting things here today.
What i takeaway from it all is that as Black women, we need to learn how to do our own daggone hair. and not just the permed hair, but how to DO the hair that grows out of our scalp. Now wouldn’t THAT be revolutionary?

We all know that Dominicans are black, who CARES!

Anyway, I live in the South Bronx, NYC. All I see are Dominican Salons, and African Hair Braiding salons.

Never been to an African American salon. I go to the Dominicans, and they do it up! I loooove my hair after I leave! But I do agree that the heat in general is bad for you. Who cares, so is eating McDonalds…

A man’s gift maketh room for him, and bringeth him before great men. Proverbs 18:16
No one can take from you what you perfect and present humbly.
There is plenty room, for everybody.

WoW- here’s a history lesson for all u ignorant folk! Puertorricans, Cubans, Dominicans,Panamanians-have similar ancestors including Africans-my question to all u “blackfolk”- what makes u think we aren’t blk ?why cuz we don’t eat collard greens? A lot Blacks need to understand that at the end of day we share more similarities than u think!my black prican g-mother was once asked off a bus for being colored-same scenario Rosa Parks.
What’s sad is the fact that we will never be accepted as being. Black!
But Jamaicans are-WTF–i thought it was based on our ancestors? Guess because I speak Spanish-I aint black enough,huh?

For years black stylists did not treat their clients right and now someone has come in and is doing it better and more efficiently. I stopped going to salons years ago because it felt like you were cows lining up for a feeding. No one listening to you on your hair needs. No organization or consideration for you time. If the black salons get their act together the clients will come back.

As An American of color and the daughter of a beautician I can understand the African American Salons Concerns. But on a personal note I have to admit that I have researched the products and have been taking my now 16 year old to the Dominicans for about 2 years now and I can definitely understand why a lot of Women of color especially those with thick coarse hair are switching. My daughters hair was damaged breaking and usually needed to be retouched every 4-6 weeks while taking her to salons that used the traditional methods which consisted of chemical based products that burned during application and further heated applications if the hair style wasn’t a wash and set. She had an higher incidence of split ends and her hair lost it salon look usually after a few days to a week. I myself ended up putting my hair in sister locks because I just couldn’t keep up with the high maintenance required for our hair while being a contractor on the road. Since my daughter has switched to the Dominican products and techniques her hair is healthier, fuller, and longer, we no longer have to invest in an abundance of moisturizers to prevent breakage she receives the rosemary and castor treatment for manageability about once every 3 months. It’s not the Dominicans I am choosing I am choosing the technique and the products they use and would gladly give my business to a African American salon if they could offer the me the same service, products, and technique. For those that like some of the styles that I consider quite busy with a twist here a flip there and the use of hair hardening to set. No, these products are not for you, nor is the technique. But if you are into normal hair styles that are quick and can be performed with a brush and dryer and you’re out the door (I’m still amazed about that) then yes it is a great technique. I think the problem is that most African-American Salons used products that are made and engineered by companies owned by other nationalities that have made alit off of African-American salons using their products so with the decrease of patrons less product is being ordered and both the salons, vendors, manufacturers are losing money, the weave, moisturizers, and chemical based relaxer sectors. Hence the reason Wall Street even thought to do a study to about where black women are getting their hair done. Since when have they cared what we did with our hair? They Care because the investors are losing money as well. I say stop thinking we all want to be weaved, fried and dyed and start offering healthier alternatives’ and maybe they all can share the wealth. Many African American women are beginning to find out the old way isn’t necessarily the best way as we are beginning to grow beautiful manes that are not achieved by harsh chemicals, flat irons, and Marcel’s. Had I not locked my hair I think I too would have opted for this type of service as my child’s hair is unbelievable. But many in the southern regions have to understand too is that Dominicans have the same hair texture as many African Americans, coming from New York I am a witness as most times you cant tell there difference between them and us. I guess they just found a healthier way to maintain hair of a coarse, dry texture which we commonly call badly, or nappy….Makes me rethink the term good or bad hair as my daughter’s hair looks like it could never have been either. Those that know us personally know differently and have noticed the drastic change.

I personally do not care for the dominican stylists. When I decided to go natural and let my perm grow out I went to a dominican salon to get my edges straightened. That extreme heat and pulling on my scalp really broke the ends of my hair. On top of that they really cannot style. All they do are wraps and I can do that myself at home. My stylist is black and while she is more expensive, she specializes in healthy hair care. My hair has never looked better. She was able to salvage what the dominicans damaged and now my hair is completely natural and healthy. I just think that with any stylist you have to find a person that is right for you, regardless of their race. As for me I’m sticking to my black stylist bc I’ve been going to her for 7yrs and I know she is gonna do me right!

CALL IMMIGRATION..CALL IMMIGRATION..CALL IMMIGRATION

I go to black hair salons and dominicans too, depending on what I want to be done, in both communities they’re some that are good and have skills and some not has good. I think if your hair type is more on the soft, curly and thick, dominicans blowout can be perfectly ok, if you hair is more on the kinky and dry side and also want hair cut, then black salons I would suggest. I think they’re dominicans that opens hair salon and have no skills whatsoever, and ignorant people just go to them because its a dominican salon, and Black salon should try and make effort to find ways of doing hair that doesnt require so much products and chemicals….

NONE OF THEM HAVE PROFESSIONAL CUSTOMER SERVICE SO IT DOES NOT MATTER. ALL OF THEM ARE RUDE!!!!!!!!!!!

MOST HAIR STYLIST OVERBOOK AND CUSTOMER HAVE TO WAIT AN HOUR IN THE CHAIR JUST TO GET STARTED ON— GTFOOH

Black Salons: Stop scheduling your customer at 9am you arrive at 9:30, then you eat breakfast, talk your kids thru getting up, while I am in your chair, now you must eat a snack, while I am still in your chair, fussing with your boyfriend, while I am still in your chair, take another client, while I am still in your chair, stop to eat lunch, while I and another client still in your chairs, finally placed under the dryer, you run an errand. You return fussing about traffic, you are tired. Take another client, while I am dry and sitting in the dryer seat. Finally get back to your chair. Your kids call, your talk them thru their homework, while I am still in your chair. Finally, seven hours later, I am charged $$$, my day is gone, and you say “See you next week!” I think NOT! This is way we go to the Dominican Salon, respect of time and saving. I go once a week.